: it was 20 years ago today
(Old post) I don't have any citations, but some of the most notorious doomsters
recanted their gloomy predictions well BEFORE January 2000. They presumably
sold a lot of $19.99 books in the meantime. I doubt that Tom received an offer
of refund. So how did we dodge
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> In the 90s Stewart Alsop famously predicted the end of the world.
I just checked my old book collection and fo
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, at 17:04, Charles Mills wrote:
> I am not an applications guy, and I didn't do any applications Y2K
> remediation, so I am not an expert, but it would seem to me that if I
> had used windowing I would have based the window on the current date --
> today minus 80 years or
t once did.
Charles
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I always preferred to describe a 100-yea
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I always preferred to describe a 100-year windowed two-digit year
representation by its
I always preferred to describe a 100-year windowed two-digit year
representation by its lowest or "base" year, in this case 1920 -- just
easier for me to visualize the 100 continguous years of validity on a
timeline..
One would hope those who chose the fixed-windowing temporary solution to
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-y2k-bug-is-back-causing-headaches-for-developers-again/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b=21203266192019599533914397741980
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> You mean the Mayor that killed corruption and the Mafia in Nyc...that
> idiot ??
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We probably should change the subject. Some suggestions:
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I think we should stick with this list for as long as possible.
1) What is the absolute best way to clear a register?
2) Exactly how many cycles does
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We probably should change the subject. Some suggestions:
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And this mess:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/23/style/y2k-bug-millennials.html
On 1/3/2020 1:23 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
Just came across: ‘Here We Go. The Chaos Is Starting’: An Oral
History of Y2K
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a30338692/y2k-panic/
I
I was working on contract with a major bank during the run up to Y2K.
The bank was so confident that they had the issue licked that they laid
off all of the contractors in November. I found another contract
immediately, but my new shop also had things well in hand, so I ended up
partying that
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You mean the Mayor that killed corruption and the Mafia in Nyc...that idiot ??
Thanks,
Tom Savor
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We probably should change the subject. Some suggestions:
1) What is the absolute best way to clear a register?
2) Exactly how many cycles does it take to do an LA instruction
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> There were date dependencies in a lot of unexpected places, although some
> of them were of minor importance. There was no more reason
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The current and past idiot Rudolph Guilianni
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I was changing jobs
You mean the Mayor that killed corruption and the Mafia in Nyc...that idiot ??
Thanks,
Tom Savor
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The current and past idiot Rudolph Guilianni
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OK, bonus homework question: who was mayor
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Would you believe that there is still fallout from Y2K. NYC parking meters
could not accept
Just came across: ‘Here We Go. The Chaos Is Starting’: An Oral History
of Y2K
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a30338692/y2k-panic/
I still have about half the Y2K books I bought, figure they'll go with
the next Great Purge. Circa 1995 I thought of doing "The Y2K
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I was changing jobs during that time and my previous employer paid me extra to
be on-site during the Y2K evening. Ended in a yawner.
However, there was a heck of a lot of money made in the tech industry upgrading
everything
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I was changing jobs during that time and my previous employer paid me extra
rallel protocol convertors that were running
> our printers off 3174 controllers.
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I remember all the hype, it really freaked people out. I know people who quit
work, liquidated everything
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I heard a 'Y2K person' interviewed on NPR recently. Her point was that if the
IT industry had done nothing in advance to remediate
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Around 1990 it became clear that our installation needed some
alternative to a universally-used, in-house date subroutine -- one which
supported all sorts of date calculations, conversion betwe
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There were date dependencies in a lot of unexpected places, although some of
them were of minor importance
.
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Y2K concerns for a 3174 make no sense to anyone who has ever customized one
as much people
as possible to generate advertisement hits).
Kees.
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Y2K concerns for a 3174 make no sense to anyone who has ever customized one.
There is no place while
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On Fri, 3 Jan
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, at 00:49, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
> The problem for us was not "how" to fix a single instance of the
> problem, but finding "where" to fix an unknown number of instances of
> the problem in 1000's of lines of in-house code and in associated data sets.
I think how complex this
*That* seems like a lifetime ago...
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. . . "Sgt Pepper t
. . . "Sgt Pepper taught the band to play" :-)
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019, 18:26 Chris Hoelscher, wrote:
> Has it been 20 years since Y2K?? sometimes it seems like last year, other
> times seems like another lifetime .
>
> Thank You,
> Chris Hoelscher| Lead Database Administrator | IBM Global
ugh and converted everything to 4 digit years. I
> believe the one I'm with now did the same thing.
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I was consulting at Arlington County, Virginia County Government. My whole
family was at a friend's house as was our tradition but I had to report to the
IT Department by 11:30 PM even though I had been running a virtual machine
who
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I was consulting at Arlington County, Virginia County Government. My whole
family was at a friend's house as was our tradition but I had to report to the
IT Department by 11:30 PM ev
> In the 90s Stewart Alsop famously predicted the end of the world.
I just checked my old book collection and found "Time Bomb 2000" by
Edward and Jennifer Yourdon. On the back it has questions like, Will
your car run?, Will there be food?, Will your PC work? ... Yep, I fell
for it. Marked
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I was consulting at Arlington County, Virginia County Government. My whole
family was at a friend's house as was our tradition but I had to report to the
IT Department by 11:30 PM even though I had been
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Question about how the year 2000 was handled as we just got hit by a major date
problem. I remember that one way to handle the date comparisons was to have
all th
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I was consulting at Arlington County, Virginia County Government. My whole
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>> Has it been 20 years since Y2K?? sometimes it seems like last year, other
>> times seems like another lifetime .
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> How many of us had smartass kids hanging out
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Hmm. I sent the post below, doesn't appear to have ever showed up, so retrying!
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From what I'm finding in our shop the date century window was 20 and it just
got bumped up to 30...so in ten years we will have to go through this again and
no will remember about it.
Thanks,
Ron McCabe
Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems
Mutual of Enumclaw
Hmm. I sent the post below, doesn't appear to have ever showed up, so retrying!
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> Has it been 20 years since Y2K??
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Several "hacks"? Were any of these "hacks" provided by IBM in the form of a
PTF?
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Ron McCabe
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>From what I'm finding in our shop the date century window was 20 and it just
>got bumped up to 30...so in ten years we will have to go through this again
>and no will remember about it.
>
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 21:14:23 +, McCabe, Ron wrote:
>From what I'm finding in our shop the date century window was 20 and it just
>got bumped up to 30...so in ten years we will have to go through this again
>and no will remember about it.
>
Dumbness is expanding: in 1965 there was a 30-year
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In our shop it was 69 for date century windowing .
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There were several hacks; one was to change the interpretation of a binary XL1
or H, or a decimal, PL2 field from "last two digits" to "offset from 1900".
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Question about how the year 2000 was handled as we just got hit by a major date
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Question about how the year 2000 was handled as we just got hit by a major date
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all the years from 00-19 (or something greater
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Question about how the year 2000 was handled as we just got hit by a major date
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The tale has many variations. Unlikely to have been Bessie Braddock. WC died in
1965 and was out of politics. It was reputed to be Lady Astor.
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Hey, Rupert!
Winston Churchill and the British politician Bessie Braddock.
Braddock encountered an intoxicated Churchill and said “Sir, you are
drunk.”
He replied:And you, Bessie, are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning,
and you
Hey, Rupert!
Winston Churchill and the British politician Bessie Braddock.
Braddock encountered an intoxicated Churchill and said “Sir, you are
drunk.”
He replied:And you, Bessie, are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning,
and you will still be ugly.
W.C. Fields? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._C._Fields
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 2:01 PM Rupert Reynolds wrote:
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> Ah . . . sigh . . .
> A story I can tell now:
> One night around the new year, at the end of 1999. I was wondering around
> (client) with a bottle of nice sparkling wine, looking
Ah . . . sigh . . .
A story I can tell now:
One night around the new year, at the end of 1999. I was wondering around
(client) with a bottle of nice sparkling wine, looking for somewhere to
keep it cool.
It was a special one-off night shift tacked onto the
ml llend of a contract. I was to stay
Has it been 20 years since Y2K?? sometimes it seems like last year, other times
seems like another lifetime .
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