Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-18 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-18 08:22, Peter Relson wrote: FWIW, within IBM code, a BLDL could not get a 306-04. A module fetch after a BLDL? Sure. But the directory entry is not relevant to that particular "decision". LLA does not care at all about the APF nature of a data set. Abend 306-04 results specifically

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-18 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-18 09:30, Ira Nelson wrote: Is the library defined to the PDSMAN Dynamic BlDL facility? I don't know, but can ask (not my system); however, it seems likely that it is since the BLDL is never passed on to IBM's BLDL SVC routine. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software Internationa

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-18 Thread Ira Nelson
Gord, Is the library defined to the PDSMAN Dynamic BlDL facility? Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Gord Tomlin > wrote: > >> On 2018-10-17 13:19, Clark Morris wrote: >> Is the data set in the concatenation twice because a symbolic is used >> to change the name of none, one or

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-18 Thread Peter Relson
FWIW, within IBM code, a BLDL could not get a 306-04. A module fetch after a BLDL? Sure. But the directory entry is not relevant to that particular "decision". LLA does not care at all about the APF nature of a data set. Abend 306-04 results specifically from checking DEBAPFIN and finding it

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 15:25, Carmen Vitullo wrote: you mentioned this was not your system but also add; We are seeing a ABEND306-4 issued by FOCUS (not by IBM Contents Supervision) after a BLDL against DDname USERLIB returns with GPR15=0004, R0=, GPR1=0306. System trace shows that PDS

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
From: "Gord Tomlin" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:57:56 PM Subject: Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list On 2018-10-17 13:41, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > I really don't belive PDSMAN refreshes / adds or deletes libraries from APF,

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 13:41, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I really don't belive PDSMAN refreshes / adds or deletes libraries from APF, dynamic or not, I know 'it used to' update LLA IF the PDS was managed, this was back Y2K, so things may have changed. the 306-4 is I think related to the concatenation, you lo

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
to the STEPLIB concatenation, can't prove any of this without seeing JCL, APF...etc Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Gord Tomlin" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:34:52 PM Subject: Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF lis

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 13:19, Clark Morris wrote: Is the data set in the concatenation twice because a symbolic is used to change the name of none, one or both at start-up time to another dataset? If APF is changed dynamically, should the change affect both members of the concatenation? I don't have th

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 17 Oct 2018 09:50:18 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com (Gord Tomlin) wrote: >On 2018-10-17 12:27, Steely.Mark wrote: >> To be clear, the data set is being accessed via a private DD statement: Is >> this the only Dataset specified on the DD statement ? >

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 12:27, Steely.Mark wrote: To be clear, the data set is being accessed via a private DD statement: Is this the only Dataset specified on the DD statement ? There is a concatenation, but both members of the concatenation are the same data set on the same volume. -- Regards, Go

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/17/2018 12:31 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2018-10-17 12:23, Tom Conley wrote: Your client should open an incident with PDSMAN support. Absolutely! I've already suggested that. -- We both have an MO (Master of the Obvious) in Computer Science ;-)

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 12:23, Tom Conley wrote: Your client should open an incident with PDSMAN support. Absolutely! I've already suggested that. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 Support: https://a

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Steely.Mark
11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list On 2018-10-17 11:56, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > so you question is just 'in general' ? > It's been a while since I was at a site that used CA-PDSMAN but I'm thinking, > if ma

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Tom Conley
On 10/17/2018 11:49 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2018-10-17 10:50, Lizette Koehler wrote: Did you do an LLA Update or Refresh? And is this a managed PDSMAN dataset or something in a STEPLIB? This is not on our system. We don't have CA PDSMAN, so we are unable to test for ourselves. We are see

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 11:56, Carmen Vitullo wrote: so you question is just 'in general' ? I'ts been a while since I was at a site that used CA-PDSMAN but I'm thinking, if managed, it would automatically refresh LLA, not sure about the linklist, that refresh sometime causes issues with some vendor softw

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Carmen Vitullo
use to. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Gord Tomlin" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:49:30 AM Subject: Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list On 2018-10-17 10:50, Lizette Koehler wrote: > Did you do an LLA Updat

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-10-17 10:50, Lizette Koehler wrote: Did you do an LLA Update or Refresh? And is this a managed PDSMAN dataset or something in a STEPLIB? This is not on our system. We don't have CA PDSMAN, so we are unable to test for ourselves. We are seeing a ABEND306-4 issued by FOCUS (not by IBM

Re: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
U > Subject: CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list > > If a partitioned data set is defined to CA PDSMAN, and is then dynamically > added to the APF list, does PDSMAN automatically recognize the fact that the > data set is now defined to APF, or is a command required t

CA PDSMAN and dynamic additions to APF list

2018-10-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
If a partitioned data set is defined to CA PDSMAN, and is then dynamically added to the APF list, does PDSMAN automatically recognize the fact that the data set is now defined to APF, or is a command required to cause PDSMAN to update its information? If PDSMAN does automatically recognize the