Seymour Metz wrote:
>Another issue is whether an application that communicates with a remote
>HMC would have model dependencies and, if so, what models to test against.
Yes, agreed, that's possible. There can also be slight differences after
the HMC receives a code update.
of
Timothy Sipples
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Mike Schwab:
>What serial number does he use if he doesn't have a z## processor?
>He only wants to test with the HMC.
There's another important qu
Mike Schwab:
>What serial number does he use if he doesn't have a z## processor?
>He only wants to test with the HMC.
There's another important question, a technical question: how does he plug
an IBM Z/IBM LinuxONE Hardware Management Console (HMC) into a ZPDT?
Answer: He doesn't. The ZPDT does
What serial number does he use if he doesn't have a z## processor? He
only wants to test with the HMC.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 11:36 PM Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
> ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> >What is the IBM product id of the HMC for system z? We would like
> >to order one from IBM.
>
> The HMC is
ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>What is the IBM product id of the HMC for system z? We would like
>to order one from IBM.
The HMC is a feature code ("FC"), ordered as part of (or added to) a
particular machine with serial number. For example, for the IBM z14 ZR1 the
machine type is 3907 and the model is
ur J.) Metz
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We will support them all ;-) but we need an HMC. Only the IBMI and rs6000
HMC are virtualized. The z one is still a physical one.
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 10:12 PM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> So are the 360/30, 360/40, 3605
OK, you need HMC. As you said, you don't need the HMC to be connected
to your "mainframe" (zPDT).
You can buy or rent one, this is business issue. If you want to save
money, take n-2 generation from second hand.
I doubt someone wolud decide to give you remote access to working HMC.
From
Yes, agreed. Talk with IBM about buying or renting an IBM Z machine with a
Hardware Management Console (HMC). Quoting the IBM zPDT Reference and Guide
: "Some aspects of a larger system are unlikely to be met in any small
environment; these include the ability to [...] use unique Hardware
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> W dniu 2019-02-02 o 01:42, Tony Harminc pisze:
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S.
> wrote:
> >> IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunat
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W dniu 2019-02-02 o 01:42, Tony Harminc pisze:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. wrote:
>> IMHO the topic is HMC
Our zPXT is no issue here, mainframe or not. It is all about HMC!
בתאריך שבת, 2 בפבר׳ 2019, 13:16, מאת R.S. :
> W dniu 2019-02-02 o 12:05, Mike Schwab pisze:
> > Well, the IBM S/360 and earlier had control panels.
> > This IBM S/370 is still running a 3277 operator console.
> >
W dniu 2019-02-02 o 12:05, Mike Schwab pisze:
Well, the IBM S/360 and earlier had control panels.
This IBM S/370 is still running a 3277 operator console.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETSEyIPuv0
Yes, control panels, but not HMC.
Note, the control panel is rather SE, not HMC.
Not to mention
Well, the IBM S/360 and earlier had control panels.
This IBM S/370 is still running a 3277 operator console.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HETSEyIPuv0
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:00 AM R.S. wrote:
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> W dniu 2019-02-02 o 01:42, Tony Harminc pisze:
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. wrote:
>
W dniu 2019-02-02 o 01:42, Tony Harminc pisze:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. wrote:
IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in
any form, real or emulated.
It's not mainframe, it's only emulation.
No, zPDT *is* a mainframe. It implements a permitted subset of
Hi Tony,
The last sentence in your email catched my attention " I don't see that it
has any close relation to IBM's mainframe
OSs and their security issues." I used to have a client that claims his
systems are 100% secure. We attacked this client from his partner who was
connected over CICS
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> No. The ussue ia clearly HMC. I just explained why we do not have one
> (zPDT) and why we need one (de
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. wrote:
>
> IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in
> any form, real or emulated.
> It's not mainframe, it's only emulation.
No, zPDT *is* a mainframe. It implements a permitted subset of the
architecture documented in the
No. The ussue ia clearly HMC. I just explained why we do not have one
(zPDT) and why we need one (develpment of automatic STIG assussment of
HMC).
I don't need my own one. It can be other people hmc (and no need to be
connected to a real mainframe. Autonatic Assessment of mainframes we
already
IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in
any form, real or emulated.
It's not mainframe, it's only emulation.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2019-02-01 o 13:10, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
But you need an HMC to connect to... Ir install an agent. Bcpii
But you need an HMC to connect to... Ir install an agent. Bcpii is limited,
rest api is poßible, but still need an hmc
בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 13:09, מאת Mike Schwab :
> I think they do a remote control of the HMC from another PC.
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:11 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>
I think they do a remote control of the HMC from another PC.
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:11 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote:
>
> I know, but there is a virtual appliance for rs6000. I need a hmc to
> develop an agent for our stig compliance automation product IronSphere, but
> zpdt (our mainframe) doean't
W dniu 2019-02-01 o 10:27, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
Thimoty,
I need the hmc itself, not the interface / web app.
What do you need?
Do you have mainframe without HMC?
AFAIK it is possible only when mainframe bought from second hand,
because IBM always deliver HMC.
However in that case you can
I know, but there is a virtual appliance for rs6000. I need a hmc to
develop an agent for our stig compliance automation product IronSphere, but
zpdt (our mainframe) doean't have or support this facility.
ITschak
בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 12:01, מאת R.S. :
> W dniu 2019-01-31 o 17:02,
W dniu 2019-01-31 o 17:02, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product?
No.
Both HMC and SE are physical machines. PC vel x64.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
==
Jeśli nie jesteś
Thimoty,
I need the hmc itself, not the interface / web app.
ITschak
בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 בפבר׳ 2019, 8:01, מאת Timothy Sipples :
> >I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product?
>
> The Hardware Management Console is available in traditional desktop and 1U
> rack mounted form
>I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product?
The Hardware Management Console is available in traditional desktop and 1U
rack mounted form factors. The latter form factor can be installed within
the optional "16U Reserved" feature on IBM z14 ZR1 and IBM LinuxONE
Rockhopper II
I know power systems has one. Dies system z has such product?
ITschak
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