Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-26 Thread Horst Sinram
Anyway, I decided to define a resource group with just 100 SUs to force batch down. Surprisingly batch still used up to 2000 SUs, because WLM promoted the batch workload due to any blockings, enqueues or locks batch held. So promotion by WLM might be another reason at your site that batch

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-26 Thread Werner Kuehnel
: werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de IMD-Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Sitz Mannheim, Amtsgericht Mannheim HRB 7460 Geschäftsführer: Norbert Koch Von:Horst Sinram sin...@de.ibm.com An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Datum: 26.02.2013 09:22 Betreff:Re: Low priority

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-25 Thread Don Deese
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Low priority workload I have to disagree. I often hear this, but there's no resources to give

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-21 Thread Natasa Savinc
Thank you all for comments. Joel, this is exactly what happens: if our rolling 4-hour MSU average starts with too high numbers in the morning, we are in trouble at noon. Of course that we monitor it and manage it, and constantly working on prevention (Werner, thank you for the idea of assigning

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-21 Thread Don Williams
this effect may be significant in your particular situation. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Low priority

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-20 Thread Werner Kuehnel
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Datum: 19.02.2013 20:03 Betreff:Re: Low priority workload Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU It would admittedly be an unusual case where manual micro-management might do a better job than WLM, but just be aware that on a tight

Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Natasa Savinc
, they managed to get some CPU seconds. We would prefer that those seconds were allocated to important online transaction. There are two opinions amoung our sysprogs: one is that we should cancel all low priority workload in order to help our online get all the resources, the other

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread John McKown
We use LPAR Group Capacity to cap our system to 35 MSUs, for cost reasons. We often have our LPARs capped by WLM. Sometimes for hours. But it is mainly during cycle, when we have little CICS demand. However, on month end, we experience this capping during the day. We have never had a CICS is slow

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 04:53 -0600, Natasa Savinc wrote: There are two opinions amoung our sysprogs: one is that we should cancel all low priority workload in order to help our online get all the resources, the other is that that is not necessary, as batch isn't getting any online's CPU

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Gerhard Adam
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natasa Savinc Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Low priority workload Hello! From time to time (certain days in a month) we hit group or system limit. We have

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Joel C. Ewing
goes up. Adam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natasa Savinc Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Low priority workload Hello! From time to time (certain days in a month) we

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Gerhard Adam
I have to disagree. I often hear this, but there's no resources to give. Other than MPL adjustments, almost all of the major WLM decisions are simply a matter of setting dispatching priorities. There can never be a situation of where a lower priority [lower DP] unit of work can pre-empt a

AW: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Uwe Oswald
: Low priority workload Hello! From time to time (certain days in a month) we hit group or system limit. We have different types of workload defined in WLM. Among others, most batch jobs have the lowest priority. At the peek times they apparently get no CPU resources, but when we make report

Re: Low priority workload

2013-02-19 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Geschäftsführer: Norbert Koch Von:Natasa Savinc natasa.sav...@unicreditgroup.zaba.hr An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Datum: 19.02.2013 11:53 Betreff:Low priority workload Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Hello! From time to time (certain days in a month