Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mullen, Patrick wrote: >Yes it was a government site (Elardus would know them), and yes the electrical >work was done by a lowest bid contractor. Ouch! You're gossiping about me? ;-D ;-D ;-D Never mind, I don't care if you're discussing me. Now getting the facts straightened out: I'm workin

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread R.S.
Another story: once upona a time we had some "not very well" UPS. The only ONE UPS. My manager asked me what to do get better reliability (BTW: my primary profession is electrician, than means engineer or power, electricity etc. with master degree). Not to mention secondary UPS was not an optio

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, moldy oldy-we were doing upgrade and needed another three phase box. So electricians came over to check planned wiring and master electrician told apprentice to go check phases. We were in the hall watching the movers and hear this za from the power room. We were headed that way an

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Ours of more modern and not as dramatic. Early 2000s. UPS caught fire at the beginning of summer. We spent all summer without a UPS and frequent visits by electricians installing new equipment. For a while, it seems like all they had to do was open a panel and power would drop to the server room

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Bob Shannon
> The OPS manager tells him an electrician for the other company got > electrocuted. VP doesn't ask if the guy was hurt or killed, just "What are > you going to do to prevent >that from happening again?" A real people person. I've worked for quite a few like that. Bob Shannon Rocket Software =

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre OK, my tale of ancient electricity. Early '80s, NCR minicomputer (size of a large refrigerator) installed 3 feet in fr

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
oards in the machine. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Barry Merrill
.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ken Hume > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square > foot data centre > > I remember an incident when I was in Atlanta. > > We had a new, a

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Stevet
Just goes to show you that there ain't no test like production. Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots. > On Dec 14, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Ken Hume wrote: > > I remember an incident when I was in Atlanta. > > We had a new, actually our first, UPS installed. Ev

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Tom Brennan
.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre I remember an incident when I was in Atlanta. We had a new, actually our first, UPS installed. Everything was completed and hooked up. The electricians decided to test it in the MIDDLE of the WEEK

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Mullen, Patrick
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ken Hume Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre I remember an incident when I was in Atlanta. We had a new, actuall

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Ken Hume
I remember an incident when I was in Atlanta. We had a new, actually our first, UPS installed. Everything was completed and hooked up. The electricians decided to test it in the MIDDLE of the WEEK DAY and WITHOUT telling anyone. Guess what happened Yep. Entire data center was down f

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ed Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We had a couple of Halon oops as well. One was arc welder in boiler room > with exhaust into the print shop. > Other was Halon service. Test was wired incorrectly. Test meant DISCHARGE. > And thi

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 13 December, 2015 18:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre W dniu 2015-12-12 o 22:57, Ed Gould pisze: > h

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Brian Westerman
In 2012 I was at a data center in Colorado where we were upgrading them from OS/390 2.10 to z/OS 1.13 and simultaneously replacing their 9672 with a z/114. We had just completed the "2 weeks in production" period for the z/114 and was going so well that the site decided to have the 9672 removed

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
tony.j.new...@btinternet.com writes: > This happend to us, 3380 continued to write x'00' over VM byte > allocation map on cyl 0. Original CMS filesystem from the mid-60s almost had a fix for this ... updated filesysem control information was written to new locations ... and then the MFD was rewrit

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Pete Lancashire
My 'why' did any disk packs get damaged was never answered, or I've forgotten. I do know when I visited a few days later in the IBM FE's office was at lease one disk pack and either a couple heads and other parts. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > p...@petelancashire

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Ed Finnell
We had a couple of Halon oops as well. One was arc welder in boiler room with exhaust into the print shop. Other was Halon service. Test was wired incorrectly. Test meant DISCHARGE. And this was just couple weeks after the $45 per pound surtax. Life and times In a message dated 12/13/

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Linda Mooney
the doors would drop power like they were supposed to. Linda - Original Message - From: "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:04:39 PM Subject: Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@petelancashire.com (Pete Lancashire) writes: > Showing my age > > I worked for Burroughs as an engineering technician. > > A customer with 360/65 instantaneous loss of power. I was there only for a > couple hours to drop off some equipment. Later heard they lost a couple > disk packs. s

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Pete Lancashire
Showing my age I worked for Burroughs as an engineering technician. A customer with 360/65 instantaneous loss of power. I was there only for a couple hours to drop off some equipment. Later heard they lost a couple disk packs. Not IBM but Burroughs B6500, B4700, B3500, B1700 in one room. W

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-12-12 o 22:57, Ed Gould pisze: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/11/electrician_cuts_the_wrong_wire_and_brings_down_25000_square_feet_of_data_centre/ Long time ago I experienced the silence in the server room. It was also electrician mistake followed by panic moves of my collea

Re: OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/11/electrician_cuts_the_wrong_wire_and_brings_down_25000_square_feet_of_data_centre/ Cool, what a super great war story! Shame that person, "JF", handed in his notice despite being innocent. Granted, he should asked the management what would

OT: Electrician cuts wrong wire and downs 25,000 square foot data centre

2015-12-12 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/11/ electrician_cuts_the_wrong_wire_and_brings_down_25000_square_feet_of_dat a_centre/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.