Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-30 Thread Timothy Sipples
Scott Ford wrote: >As a ISV we look at the cost to the customer of a product, so this is why I >was asking cost of CICS Liberty and realizing after >40+ yrs there aren’t many freebies nowadays. Just in case I wasn't clear, CICS Transaction Server Version 5.x for z/OS licensees are (also) licensed

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-28 Thread scott Ford
Timothy Sipples > Date: Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:52 AM > Subject: Re: websphere-liberty question > To: > > > David Crayford wrote: > >> https://www.openliberty.io > >Very cool. I'll give it a test drive. > > Yes, agreed! When you get a chance, it'd be gr

Fwd: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-28 Thread scott Ford
Date: Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:52 AM Subject: Re: websphere-liberty question To: David Crayford wrote: >> https://www.openliberty.io >Very cool. I'll give it a test drive. Yes, agreed! When you get a chance, it'd be great to learn how it goes for you. I should also point out

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-28 Thread Timothy Sipples
David Crayford wrote: >> https://www.openliberty.io >Very cool. I'll give it a test drive. Yes, agreed! When you get a chance, it'd be great to learn how it goes for you. I should also point out that IBM distributes a no charge beta release of (IBM commercial) Liberty for z/OS here:

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-27 Thread scott Ford
Thanks all. David don’t kill the messager, I take your point. It’s not my decision on what/how we do it. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate the ideas from all. We are replacing a Cobol/Hlasm STC with a Rest api interface. We are at the data gathering stage. . Regards, Scott On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
Thanks Tim, this is good information. I appreciate your contributions to the community. I have to say that Liberty might be the most confusing product offering from IBM *ever* in terms of what versions and license options are available. A) For instance, there is this:

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-27 Thread David Crayford
On 27/09/2018 2:58 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: David Crayford wrote: There is no free WLP. Were you aware that Open Liberty is available under the Eclipse Public License? https://www.openliberty.io Very cool. I'll give it a test drive. There's work underway on a spring boot starter

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
David Crayford wrote: >There is no free WLP. Were you aware that Open Liberty is available under the Eclipse Public License? https://www.openliberty.io Open Liberty was introduced about a year ago now. Yes, Open Liberty is tested and compatible with z/OS (and with Linux on Z and LinuxONE). The

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread David Crayford
Why does your application have to be deployed in Liberty? What's wrong with a free, open source servlet container? I noticed that the API mediation layer in Zowe is a Spring Boot application. Spring Boot has to be the most popular Java web framework right now especially for REST APIs,

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread scott Ford
Matt, Yes sir as far as I know. Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:06 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > z/OSMF has services that enable TSO services … your App is in Java and you > want to host it in a Liberty container ? > > > > Matt Hogstrom > m...@hogstrom.org > +1-919-656-0564 > PGP Key: 0x90ECB270

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
z/OSMF has services that enable TSO services … your App is in Java and you want to host it in a Liberty container ? Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 I just read a book on Stockholm Syndrome, it was pretty bad at first, but, by the end I kind of liked it. >

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-26 Thread scott Ford
We are developing solutions for a product and are a Partnerworld partner of course. Basic sending TSO code retrieving output. Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:59 AM David Crayford wrote: > If you have purchased CICS you get CICS WLP. Same for IMS and WAS. There > is no free WLP. IBM don't give

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread David Crayford
If you have purchased CICS you get CICS WLP. Same for IMS and WAS. There is no free WLP. IBM don't give away freebies on z/OS. Also, only IBM signed code can run in z/OSMF. Why do you ask? What are you trying to achieve? On 25/09/2018 11:47 PM, scott Ford wrote: Does anyone know when you

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread Matt Hogstrom
om: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > scott Ford > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:48 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: websphere-liberty question > > Does anyone know when you order z/OS new or otherwise if Websphere and > CICS Liberty are optio

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread Allan Staller
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: websphere-liberty question Does anyone know when you order z/OS new or otherwise if Websphere and CICS Liberty are optional costs or are they included. Thanks in advance. Scott -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread Barkow, Eileen
: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RE: websphere-liberty question Liberty is included with CICS, but with out recent CICS TS 5.4 install, the wlp directory did not get placed in the HFS. I had to find the pax file for it and install it manually. -Original

Re: websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Of scott Ford Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: websphere-liberty question Does anyone know when you order z/OS new or otherwise if Websphere and CICS Liberty are optional costs or are they included. Thanks in advance. Scott -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford

websphere-liberty question

2018-09-25 Thread scott Ford
Does anyone know when you order z/OS new or otherwise if Websphere and CICS Liberty are optional costs or are they included. Thanks in advance. Scott -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you