Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-08-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
Begging time again. :-) I am the software developer for the IPv6/VSE product. Every time there is a new z/OS release, I need to acquire a copy of the latest z/OS version of the EZASMI assembler macro so I can compare it to what is used on VSE so that I can catch any compatibility issues

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-08-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement Begging time again. :-) I am the software developer for the IPv6/VSE product. Every time there is a new z/OS release, I need to acquire a copy of the latest z/OS version of the EZASMI assembler macro so I can compare it to what is used on VSE so

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-08-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
partner with IBM or have proper association with IBM. For a customer to provide you a copy of that - might be a bad thing. Lizette -Original Message- From: Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com Sent: Aug 7, 2015 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement Begging

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1abe014b-9527-4921-9960-ce86e3a8b...@aim.com, on 07/29/2015 at 10:14 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: o Must a symbol replace an entire qualifier, No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4520252983585371.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/30/2015 at 08:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: It appears to me that DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(aliasname) RELATE(entryname) ... ) DEFINE PATH (NAME(entryname) PATHENTRY(entryname)

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 06:25:01 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: A VSAM PATH _can_ be the same as a non-VSAM ALIAS. However, it also can be different. For keyed VSAM files, if you specify the PATHENTRY keyword when defining a PATH, you can specify that the PATH should use an alternate index. At that

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Subject: Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement) On 2015-07-29, at 15:59, Staller, Allan wrote: PATH does not equal ALIAS in VSAM... How are they different? In my experience they're just commands with different names that do the same thing. snip BTW, is there any good reason

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:57:35 +, Staller, Allan wrote: RTFM... From: z/OS DFSMS Access Method Services Commands SC23-6846-01 It appears to me that DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(aliasname) RELATE(entryname) ... ) DEFINE PATH (NAME(entryname) PATHENTRY(entryname) ,,, ) ... perform

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-30 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:57:53 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On 2015-07-29, at 15:59, Staller, Allan wrote: PATH does not equal ALIAS in VSAM... How are they different? In my experience they're just commands with different names that do the same thing. A VSAM PATH _can_

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Skeldum, William
:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement) On 2015-07-29, at 09:59, Skeldum, William wrote: A symbolic symbol can be defined as: 'NULL='. I then defined an alias as follows: DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(TEST.NEW.JCL.CNTL) SYMBOLICRELATE

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Skeldum, William
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement) On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:38:50 +, Staller, Allan wrote: ... Once *EVERYTHING has moved to the alias

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-29, at 09:59, Skeldum, William wrote: A symbolic symbol can be defined as: 'NULL='. I then defined an alias as follows: DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(TEST.NEW.JCL.CNTL) SYMBOLICRELATE(TEST.NULL.JCL.CNTL)) When I reference TEST.NEW.JCL.CNTL in DSLIST (ISPF 3.4) TEST.JCL.CNTL is displayed.

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Staller, Allan
PATH does not equal ALIAS in VSAM... snip BTW, is there any good reason that an alias for a non-VSAM data set is called an ALIAS while an alias for a VSAM data set is called a PATH? (Might some object have both, in which case the distinction is meaningful?) /snip

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread retired mainframer
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement) Is there a utility to enumerate all ALIASes to a given

Re: Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:26:58 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: LISTCAT ENT(dsn) ALL. If dsn is not VSAM, the RELATED field in the output will show all aliases, if any. If dsn is VSAM, the PATH field will show any aliases. If dsn is a path or alias, the RELATED field will show the true name of

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-29 Thread Fred van der Windt
Just one problem with your implementation plan. Most sites I know would not want to recompile every COBOL program they run into a PDSE, then do a rename swap to implement. IEFOPZxx is great solution to this problem. You don't need to recompile them to store them in a PDSE. You can just

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Fred van der Windt Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement This was discussed at the vendor TDM but I think I am not talking out of school here now that this is announced ... One obstacle to customers

Aliases (was: z/OS 2.2 announcement)

2015-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:38:50 +, Staller, Allan wrote: ... Once *EVERYTHING has moved to the alias, the original dataset can be deleted and the process repeated in the other direction. This make take several (days, weeks, months,) depending on the installations policies and

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement (and rename data set in use)

2015-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-29, at 08:13, Staller, Allan wrote: Better yet, copy PDS to PDSE and define a dataset alias But be careful: o Don't you need at least to uncatalog the PDS to define the alias? Can this be done while an ENQ exists? I suspect, yes. o Initiator ENQ works differently, perhaps

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement (and rename data set in use)

2015-07-29 Thread Staller, Allan
Yes you can. snip o Don't you need at least to uncatalog the PDS to define the alias? Can this be done while an ENQ exists? I suspect, yes. /snip Once *EVERYTHING has moved to the alias, the original dataset can be deleted and the process repeated in the other direction. This make take

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement (and rename data set in use)

2015-07-29 Thread Staller, Allan
Better yet, copy PDS to PDSE and define a dataset alias snip In a large shop the old PDS would be in continuous use and therefore difficult to swap out. A shop must be prepared to do this in the event of hardware replacement. This sounds like a good argument for a facility to rename a

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement (and rename data set in use)

2015-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:17:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: In a large shop the old PDS would be in continuous use and therefore difficult to swap out. A shop must be prepared to do this in the event of hardware replacement. This sounds like a good argument for a facility to rename a data set

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement On 7/28/2015 2:17 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Maybe they would apply the balance toward an earlier purchase? In my experience

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Fred van der Windt
IEFOPZxx allows you to define pairs of libraries, where the paired library is concatenated ahead of the original. F'rinstance: //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=GOODOLD.COBOLPDS.LOADLIB In IEFOPZxx, we define DUMBNEW.COBOL5.PDSELOAD as a pair to GOODOLD.COBOLPDS.LOADLIB. So whenever the

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Fred van der Windt
This was discussed at the vendor TDM but I think I am not talking out of school here now that this is announced ... One obstacle to customers converting to COBOL 5 is the requirement that the resulting executable programs reside in a PDSE. The customer presumably has thousands of jobs

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:25:59 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: z?OS 2.2 was announced today. It requires a Z10 or newer processor. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS215-267#availx http://preview.tinyurl.com/p64hluq Thanks.

z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Tom Marchant
z?OS 2.2 was announced today. It requires a Z10 or newer processor. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS215-267#availx http://preview.tinyurl.com/p64hluq -- Tom Marchant

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/29/2015 1:40 AM, Fred van der Windt wrote: This was discussed at the vendor TDM but I think I am not talking out of school here now that this is announced ... One obstacle to customers converting to COBOL 5 is the requirement that the resulting executable programs reside in a PDSE. The

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Mike Schwab
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement Another reason to move to a newer processor is the reduction on software prices. Even if you had to pay double maintenance for a while, and I agree

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
of service next year. HW maintnenace is pre-paid on the z9 until June 2017 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 2.2 announcement z

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
I'd plan on putting in the order for zOS 2.1 not much later than mid-August. Mark Jacobs Gibney, David Allen,Jr mailto:gib...@wsu.edu July 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM Looks nice, won't run on my z9. I just spent awhile trying to find the definitive statement as to what date z/OS 2.1 will be withdrawn

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Mike Schwab
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 2.2 announcement z?OS 2.2 was announced today. It requires a Z10 or newer processor. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www- 01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement I found this to be interesting, but I don't quite understand it: z/OS V2.2 is designed to support a new IEFOPZxx parmlib member in which you can specify

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/28/2015 4:27 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: I found this to be interesting, but I don't quite understand it: z/OS V2.2 is designed to support a new IEFOPZxx parmlib member in which you can specify pairs of partitioned (PDS and PDSE) data sets. In each pair, you can specify one that is to be

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
...@listserv.ua.edu Subject: z/OS 2.2 announcement To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU z?OS 2.2 was announced today. It requires a Z10 or newer processor. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS215-267#availx http

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
-M213749N23348W43-Z966844T77753Y85 Lizette -Original Message- From: Gibney, David Allen,Jr gib...@wsu.edu Sent: Jul 28, 2015 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement Looks nice, won't run on my z9. I just spent awhile trying to find the definitive statement

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/28/2015 2:17 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Maybe they would apply the balance toward an earlier purchase? In my experience. they will do exactly that. We have *never* had a problem getting credited for remaining time on an existing pre-paid IBM CPU, DASD or Tape maintenance contract as part of

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Cheryl Watson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement On 7/28/2015 2:17 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Maybe they would apply the balance toward an earlier purchase? In my experience. they will do exactly that. We have

Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement

2015-07-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Don't worry, I'm already thinking about other uses. :-) Thanks! Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:49:31 -0400 From: pinnc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On 7/28/2015 4:27 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: I found this to be interesting, but I don't