On 15 May 2008 14:46:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
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Since I'm not a JAVA expert,
Clearly not, if you believe that JavaScript has anything to do with Java
;-)
The marketing guys knew Java was popular, so the name change worked.
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snipped: What about Java Beans? Did you purposely use the pun?
Yes...it's like saying Spiderman was the first one on the web...low level
humor.
Back to my regular observational position.
Good day.
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Since I'm not a JAVA expert,
Clearly not, if you believe that JavaScript has anything to do with Java
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In
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at 10:08 AM, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote
for The Adolescence of P1.
I found that my willing suspension of disbelief could not stand up to the
technological gaffs.
What
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Subject: Mainframe programming vs the Web
Versus? It's perfectly feasible to serve web pages on z/OS.
Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web sites that
won't accept spaces or dashes
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Agreed but you need a US Town not a County to be
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at 12:15 PM, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Over editing is often worse than under,
I'd be tempted to say always worse, not just often. Don't do validation
without first learning what isa valid. A related sin is insisting on a
fixed format without
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at 02:34 PM, Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Are you certain it was a DOS system. I thought it was an MFT, or MVT,
and housed in a 165/95, was it...?
It was DOS/360, on a 360/75, at the University of Waterloo.
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:49:44 +0100, Martin Packer wrote:
You're NOT differing. :-)
What's that supposed to mean? I replied to your post that issues with
Javascript were a thing of the past, if I understood correctly. This came up a
few months ago and that was when I installed NoScript. It
What it means is that - with suitable protections (such as NoScript),
suitably deployed - javascript is perfectly safe. So I don't think we're
disagreeing at all.
Now, if one's browser has no NoScript equivalent that's another matter. I
just assume sensible people go into battle with a whole
On 14 May 2008 08:38:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) wrote:
What it means is that - with suitable protections (such as
NoScript), suitably deployed - javascript is perfectly
safe. So I don't think we're disagreeing at all.
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned
our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just
a few lines, but if you clicked a line
What if I suggested we turned this thread into a discussion about how Ajax
could be used to pull disparate datasources such as the HMC and RMF
together for z/OS installations' benefit. Would we still want to kill the
thread? I guess so as we should start another thread for THAT.
Martin
Martin
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:14:15 -0400, Arthur T.
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...
Isn't it time to kill this thread? I can't see any
connection between the last half dozen posts (at least) and
mainframes.
...
I agree that this thread is seriously off-topic, but I'd like to comment
that I'd
At 15:05 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re:
Mainframe programming vs the Web:
[The Forbin Project] Great movie!
The book (and its two sequels which explain why Colossus did what it
did - It had detected an external threat and was defending Earth
against it) was even
At 14:34 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Gary Green wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
Are you certain it was a DOS system. I thought it was an MFT, or
MVT, and housed in a 165/95, was it...?
It has been so long I forget. I'd have to locate my copy (which I
think is boxed away
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At 23:25 -0400 on 05/14/2008, Gary Green wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
I did not know about the sequels. Thanks.
The three books are Colossus, The Fall of Colossus, and Colossus and
the Crab. Amazon Marketplace has copies that will run you less than
$4 a piece (plus
At 21:17 + on 05/12/2008, =?utf-8?B?VGVkIE1hY05FSUw=?= wrote
about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web:
Is it truly being a luddite to not want your PC screwed over by
bad/malicious external code?
What type of things are/were done to your system by the supplied
JavaScript? I think you
At 15:19 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re:
Mainframe programming vs the Web:
Yeah, I thought about that. Actually built a prototype. I'll think about it.
I do know that not all browsers recognize NOSCRIPT, but those are probably
in the minorty.
To the best of my knowledge
Arthur T wrote:
One old standby was to open dozens or hundreds of browser windows
with ads in them. It could lead to a reboot just to get back
control of your computer.
OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has plenty of
control over such things. As with all such things
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On 12 May 2008 14:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg)
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Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name
which the computers kept having troubles with. He invented a
bacterium that ate computer tapes for revenge - which made him an
ecological hero
While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote
for The Adolescence of P1.
Daniel McLaughlin
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On 13 May 2008 00:33:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin
Packer) wrote:
OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has plenty of
control over such things. As with all such things I have to give IE the
benefit of the doubt (as I almost never use it) and assume it had a grip
on it
At the risk of this thread straying off topic too much, I agree...
I have two copies floating around my house somewhere. I can never find them
when I want to reread the book; about every 4-5 years.
Where's Gregory?.
On Tue May 13 10:08 , Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
While
2008/5/12 Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you accept only cards that use 4 4-character fields, you can also have 4
windows (each 4 characters wide) and auto-advance the cursor after the 4th
character (I have seen this done but it may need JavaScript). AJAX (or
JavaScript) will
On 13 May 2008 09:26:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Harminc)
wrote:
Formatting names according to some assumed standard, e.g. changing the
first letter of each part to upper case. Enough said on this, except
to remark on the sheer number of homegrown and experimental schemes
deployed out
At 08:05 -0600 on 05/13/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
On 12 May 2008 14:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg)
wrote:
Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name
which the computers kept having troubles with. He
At 12:15 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
2008/5/12 Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you accept only cards that use 4 4-character fields, you can also have 4
windows (each 4 characters wide) and auto-advance the cursor after
At 08:04 -0500 on 05/13/2008, Mark Hammond wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
I used to live in Middlesex County in New Jersey. You don't need to go
all the way to the UK to find such names.
Mark Hammond
Agreed but you need a US Town not a County to be equivalent since you
At 10:08 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re:
Mainframe programming vs the Web:
While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote
for The Adolescence of P1.
Or Valentina: Soul in Sapphire or either edition of When Harlie
was One. All are about
I always wondered how to start a sentence with dBase IV, or iPod...
Or z/OS ...
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Are you certain it was a DOS system. I thought it was an MFT, or MVT, and
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At 10:08 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re:
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While we're
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While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote
for The Adolescence of P1.
Or Valentina: Soul in Sapphire or either edition of When Harlie
was One. All are about Sentient Computer Programs that roam the Net
(before the
Oh yes.
I remember starting to read it when someone on CompuServe (remember that)
recommended it to me back in the 80's. I laid it down somewhere and it was
gone. I never did get another copy to finish reading...
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Fantablous movie!
Computer takes over the world, almost!
Classic!
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While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I
vote
for The Adolescence of P1
On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:33:28 +0100, Martin Packer wrote:
Arthur T wrote:
One old standby was to open dozens or hundreds of browser windows
with ads in them. It could lead to a reboot just to get back
control of your computer.
OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes:
I beg to differ. Until recently, I was running Firefox without NoScript and
frequently found that both and swap space had filled up,
Disabling javascript will leave you disenfranchised from an increasingly
large number of (increasingly important) websites. But at least you have
an extension to make this SELECTIVE.
As a big Firefox fan (writing extensions and living on the BLEEDING edge
by running Nightlies) I wonder if IE
I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all
costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard.
Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so I've no
idea what it's using javascript for. Hopefully dojo.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) writes:
As a big Firefox fan (writing extensions and living on the BLEEDING edge
by running Nightlies) I wonder if IE even HAS
On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
Alcock) wrote:
Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web
sites that won't accept spaces or dashes like for credit cards
and phone numbers. I know that even ancient mainframe COBOL has
support for removing them with one
: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web
On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:52:44 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
John McKown wrote:
(1) for learning and (2) to prove it could be done with z/OS. So many PC
Weenies preen with pride thinking that z/OS cannot do anything new and
nifty. Wrong.
Wrong indeed. Good
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I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be
avoided at all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink
in that regard.
Remember, you're not just
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On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by
In a message dated 5/11/2008 5:39:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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cursor would be in the first field the user needed to fix. I hate web
pages that say Correct errors in red If the error is a blank, you
can't find it. With our technique, you knew which fields
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:52:44 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
John McKown wrote:
(1) for learning and (2) to prove it could be done with
z/OS. So many
PC Weenies preen with pride
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I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all
costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard.
Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so I've no
idea what it's using javascript for.
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I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be
avoided at all costs. And I do hope
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[snip]
present. I've got a serious problem with that; I wish I
On 12 May 2008 08:20:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
Don't forget the multi-word surnames, like Van de Graaf, de la Hoya,
etc. I'm sure those folks tire from receiving form-letter
acknowledgements that start with Dear Mr. Van: or Dear Mr. de:.
I'm doing case conversions of
On 12 May 2008 08:21:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve
Comstock) wrote:
I once met an instructor in San Francisco whose name was
something_or_other III. He decided the III was the only
part that gave him uniqueness. He had his name legally
changed to '3'. Failed a lot of validation tests on many
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snip
I find it much easier to simply type IL than to move a hand from the keyboard
to the mouse, find the drop-down hotspot and scroll around trying to
accurately hit IL or Illinois; yet invariably if I type IL I find
Rick Fochtman wrote:
snip
I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at
all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard.
Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so
I've no idea what it's
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[ snip ]
I did work for a company that had to clean up addresses - it
had a dirty word file that it used - but I've read of some
foreign dirty
words that are valid places and names. . . .
From what I understand about JAVA vs. JAVASCRIPT, which I freely
admit
may be a faulty understanding, there are important differences.
Javascript and JAVA are apples and fish. It's like CLIST versus COBOL.
There are some similar semantic constructs but that's about all.
Javascript is just a
On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:09:18 -0500, McKown, John
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...
The other thing that irritates many is the US (and English?) centric
First Name, Middle Name (or initial), Last Name. ...
First Name, Middle Initial, Last Name has always bothered me.
And those (admittedly fewer)
At 09:59 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name
which the computers kept having troubles with. He invented a
bacterium that ate computer tapes for revenge - which made him
At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re:
Mainframe programming vs the Web:
It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned
our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just
a few lines, but if you clicked a line it was expanded, using
At 16:38 +0100 on 05/12/2008, Martin Packer wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
Javascript, by design, can do damn near anything to your machine.
What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is dangerous?
It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so it can not look
At 11:27 -0500 on 05/12/2008, Chase, John wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
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[ snip ]
I did work for a company that had to clean up addresses - it
had a dirty word file
The normal user gets an interactive copy of the page while the Paranoid
Luddites get a
non-interactive static page.
Is it truly being a luddite to not want your PC screwed over by bad/malicious
external code?
I've been hit too many times, and I know better.
Our security people know even more
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In a case of this type, all you need to do is place
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned
our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just
a few lines, but if you clicked a line
In a message dated 5/12/2008 4:13:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Novel before getting to your message. Based on this memory, and on
impulse, I just right now bought a copy so I can reread it. Copies
are available from Amazon if you want to reread it yourself.
.EDU Re: Mainframe programming vs the
Web
05/12/2008 02:48
What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is
dangerous? It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so
it can not look at your files) or things like that.
According to other posters, it can.
Since I'm not a JAVA expert, I'll defer to their expertise.
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What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is
dangerous? It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so
it can not look at your files) or things like that.
According to other posters, it can.
Since I'm not a JAVA expert, I'll defer to their expertise.
Javascript is not JAVA!
Javascript is not JAVA! Chant it if it helps you to remember...
Admittingly, I'm not an expert (I said that).
My point was that both seem to be exposures.
I've seen posts that both have security issues.
I deferr to the experts on this.
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At 16:38 +0100 on 05/12/2008, Martin Packer wrote about
Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web:
Javascript, by design, can do damn near anything to your
Arthur T. wrote:
I'm not an expert, so I let Google do the work. Some of the
exploits are old, but they do or did exist. Here's just a sample:
As you may of noticed - most of the security issues are 'implementation'
issues - not design issues..
Now, the same goes for Real Language
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:Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web
:sites that won't accept spaces or dashes like for credit cards
:and phone numbers. I know that even ancient mainframe COBOL has
:support for removing them with
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Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web
sites
Yes Sonny, back in the old days, we scanned CICS screens backwards,
changing invalid fields red, setting the valid fields to askip and
putting the cursor in invalid fields. When the edit was done, the
cursor would be in the first field the user needed to fix. I hate web
pages that say
On Sun, 11 May 2008, Len Rugen wrote:
Yes Sonny, back in the old days, we scanned CICS screens backwards,
changing invalid fields red, setting the valid fields to askip and
putting the cursor in invalid fields. When the edit was done, the
cursor would be in the first field the user needed
I know that I use the Firefox extention to stop Javascript on most sites. I
don't think that
MS's Internet Explorer has anything like that
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
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On Mon, 12 May 2008, [utf-8] Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I know that I use the Firefox extention to stop Javascript on most sites. I
don't think that
MS's Internet Explorer has anything like that
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
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by individual site? Or only globally? Firefox
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
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by individual site? Or only globally? Firefox allows by site.
I honestly don't know.
I've shut it down completely.
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On Mon, 12 May 2008, [utf-8] Ted MacNEIL wrote:
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
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by individual site? Or only globally? Firefox allows by site.
I honestly don't know.
I've shut it down completely.
-
Wise choice. However, AJAX has some nice capabilities. I'm
On Mon, 12 May 2008 01:01:51 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
by individual site? Or only globally? Firefox allows by site.
I honestly don't know.
I've shut it down completely.
How do you deal with IBMLink?
(And, less important, Google maps and
John McKown wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008, [utf-8] Ted MacNEIL wrote:
You can stop JAVAScript on current versions of IE.
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by individual site? Or only globally? Firefox allows by site.
I honestly don't know.
I've shut it down completely.
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Wise choice. However, AJAX has some nice
On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:52:44 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
John McKown wrote:
(1) for learning and (2) to prove it could be done with z/OS. So many PC
Weenies preen with pride thinking that z/OS cannot do anything new and
nifty. Wrong.
Wrong indeed. Good on you.
But note how many dinos preen
At 19:16 -0500 on 05/11/2008, John McKown wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
I think that this sort of think would be possible using AJAX. But AJAX
requires that Javascript be enabled in the user's browser. And many don't
like that due to the possibility of decreased security. I
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