On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:35:31 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Of course, OpenStack is the new replacement for zManager
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http://www.zmanager.org/
Shane ...
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On 6/10/2013 2:10 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:35:31 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Of course, OpenStack is the new replacement for zManager
H
http://www.zmanager.org/
I didn't sign up for that but it looks cool! This one is more pertinent
Interesting that VMWare don't see Openstack as an option (competitor) for the
enterprise, despite them also investing in it.
quote
“Where is OpenStack, we believe, going to be adopted?” Gelsinger said. “We
don’t see it having great success coming into the enterprise
Might depend on their (and
On 6/10/2013 2:56 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Interesting that VMWare don't see Openstack as an option (competitor) for the
enterprise, despite them also investing in it.
quote
VMware invest in rockstar developers and do very well from it. GoPivitol
must be the biggest startup in history.
The
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:04:44 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
The word is that OpenStack is years behind similar technology used by
the likes of Amazon, Rackspace, Google.
I dropped in on VMWorld on the way back from Share - bit of an eye-opener from
(at least) an attendance perspective.
VMWare
On 6/10/2013 3:30 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:04:44 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
The word is that OpenStack is years behind similar technology used by
the likes of Amazon, Rackspace, Google.
I dropped in on VMWorld on the way back from Share - bit of an eye-opener from
(at
Seriously, why would you say that? Because it's open source? Because it's
Python?
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/10/2013 9:31 AM, Ed Gould wrote:
While gaining real-world skills, students will be introduced to the vital
role that the
I was having a moment of mirth wrt recent discussions about open source. It
seems it's not trusted in the z/OS world.
On 6 Oct 2013, at 10:19 pm, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:
Seriously, why would you say that? Because it's open source? Because it's
Python?
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at
Some part of David Crayford's problem here is that he does not talk
like---and almost certainly does not want to talk like---a mainframer.
I am reminded of the verses in the Book of Judges:
12, 4 Then Jephthah gathered together all the men of Gilead, and
fought with Ephraim: and the men of
http://nypost.com/2013/10/05/ibm-now-employs-more-workers-in-india-
than-us/
This reminds me of the comic strip Pogo: I have seen the enemy and
he is us (or word to that effect).
ED
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On 10/6/2013 at 03:04 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
The word is that OpenStack is years behind similar technology used by
the likes of Amazon, Rackspace, Google.
You might want to leave Rackspace out of this list, since they and NASA are the
two original creators of
In 8755627167295105.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/03/2013
at 07:31 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
Every employment contract I've seen includes ownership of code
developed - and isn't limited to the employment duration.
I've redlined such contracts, and management
In 524a5bcb.1090...@gmail.com, on 10/01/2013
at 01:21 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
I would have to humbly disagree. Pascals type system alone is far
superior.
The original Pascal type system was an abomination; it was only after
the ISO dealt with conformant array parameters
In 9344222173527866.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/03/2013
at 11:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
A while back, on TSO-REXX, I advocated labelling END statements to
take advantage of the processor's enforcing that they match the DOs,
and complained that the
In 005701cec0e0$eaf5d5f0$c0e181d0$@mxg.com, on 10/04/2013
at 04:05 AM, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com said:
I had an Earthlink dial up account
My condolences.
their technical support (up 3 levels) denied that Eartlink used
modems.
That may be characteristic of large corporations in general
In 1444041293790651.wa.sachapmanaep@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/04/2013
at 07:40 AM, Scott Chapman sachap...@aep.com said:
If you're developing in ISPF on a 24x80 screen
It never ceases to amaze me that there are companies using 24x80
decades after it was obsolete.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In 0d4e01cec127$9e8e6320$dbab2960$@mcn.org, on 10/04/2013
at 10:31 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
It is easy to write UCS-2 or UTF-16 or whatever it is called
UCS-2 is called UCS-2 and UTF-16 is called UTF-16; they are not the
same.
All you are doing with UCS-2 is making it harder
In
cahtvvrwh_saoe-smy4ekmxgofqwfv5p4coyazdsl_tbr0dp...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/05/2013
at 02:33 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com said:
Yes, you can have SMS and NON sms togethter in a APF list. System
just needs those modules to run in supervisory state...
No it doesn't.
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In 8709724825739848.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/04/2013
at 06:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Should the OS or filesystem treat files named ÿ and as
equivalent; allow either to be referred to by the other name, and
prohibit the occurrence of both in a
In
cae1xxdhf4ureg-jxlb9kgsqqvcoejk+hvnt0a_mmsohzzck...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/04/2013
at 03:47 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
What I have sensed in a number of posts
You have a record of sensing things that are not there.
a mixture of anglophone bigotry and anglophone
In
CAFO-8tq3+5fPzo0ijKZrN+9oeZFVDA8D9FGmgyqfs8y=gtg...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/04/2013
at 07:50 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
pedanticNot to be confused with the language PL/I.
In what year? The name progressed from NPL, MPPL, PL/1 and finally
PL/I. See, e.g., C20-1632, An Introduction
In 0e4c01cec161$64a4bf30$2dee3d90$@mcn.org, on 10/04/2013
at 05:25 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
What is an example of a name that is not valid UTF-8?
An octet stream that does not conform to RFC 3629 or to the ISO/IEC
10646 documents on which it is based, e.g., C0 80.
Should that
In
CAE1XxDEKy=oi=3cyuqkjkfkokkue-kcuun9arhfeeobdzge...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/04/2013
at 09:57 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Systematic misunderstanding is a tedious rhetorical device.
Then cease engaging in it.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In 006101ceb8b8$8fd70610$af851230$@mcn.org, on 09/23/2013
at 04:56 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Unicode is not a character set
Sure it is.
If it's UTF-
UTF-8 is a transform, not a character set, even though you can specify
it in charset for MIME.
If it's UTF-16 or UCS-2 you can
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes:
http://nypost.com/2013/10/05/ibm-now-employs-more-workers-in-india-
than-us/
This reminds me of the comic strip Pogo: I have seen the enemy and he
is us (or word to that effect).
there were similar news from spring of 2012 ... and at the time had
*shrug* not the official name, certainly not current. But you *were*
talking Multics era, so arguably OK.
Hey, I *said* I was being pedantic...
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
Speaking of not talking like a mainframer...
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Some part of David Crayford's problem here is that he does not talk
like---and almost certainly does not want to talk like---a mainframer.
I am reminded of the verses in the
Damnit, meant to add grin
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:21 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of not talking like a mainframer...
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Some part of David Crayford's problem here is that he does not talk
like---and
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 21:09:59 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
A while back, on TSO-REXX, I advocated labelling END statements to
take advantage of the processor's enforcing that they match the DOs,
and complained that the processor ignores some mismatches.
Did you open an ETR? That
I was reading the thread regarding NSLOOKUP (MVS VS OMVS), and it reminded me
of an issue I had about a year ago.
I was reading a list of Host Names And Used BPX1GHN to get the associated
ip-address.
I would load BPX1GHN on the first invocation and call BPX1GHN. Subsequent
invocations would
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#36 Quote on Slashdot.org
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#38 Quote on Slashdot.org
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#41 Quote on Slashdot.org
multics (5th flr, 545 tech sq) also managed to ship the first relational
DBMS product.
W dniu 2013-10-06 17:59, Ed Gould pisze:
http://nypost.com/2013/10/05/ibm-now-employs-more-workers-in-india-than-us/
This reminds me of the comic strip Pogo: I have seen the enemy and he
is us (or word to that effect).
Well,
India is bigger than US, isn't it? I mean population.
AFAIK Asia
Some have written and run a program. Runs at IPL and issues a LOAD
for various programs, then ends. Actual use never decrements the
count to zero, so it is never unloaded.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote:
I was reading the thread regarding NSLOOKUP (MVS
In
cae1xxdgxkrggeu-eagir+c1acst2qre0v9rbof3b3non3y+...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/05/2013
at 05:20 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
What you sent as an extract from my text arrived as
He had Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
A Montréal,
We found the problem . Prior to the last IPL , a 'SETPROG
LNKLST,UNALLOCATE' was added to the automation startup script and the
command was IPL'ed and nobody was aware of it ...
I'm glad that you found it.
The LNKLST UNALLOCATE function (whether by SETPROG, or in a PROGxx) is the
only reason,
I know I probably don't belong in such elite company as the doyens of this
list. My parents were poor, simple folks who couldn't afford to send me to a
good school to learn Latin.
On 06/10/2013, at 11:42 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Some part of David Crayford's problem here is
I suggest looking at the name servers you are using and the quality of those
name servers. Try using the one in use by PC's on your network to see if that
helps.
Name servers work in a tree like structure. By that, I mean the name server
queries other name servers and those query more name
David Crayford opines:
I can't see OpenStack ever taking off on the mainframe. It's open source
software written in the Python programming language. Who on earth is
going to risk their job using something like that?
Linux is extremely highly successful open source software, and so is the
Apache
Is there a decent caching-only name server for z/OS? I run nscd on Linux
to cache my name lookups. I am currently running the RESOLVER proc on z/OS.
It points to a Windows WINS server. But, for some reason, most of the jobs
on z/OS have hard coded IP addresses in them. I don't know why.
On Sun,
I was being sarcastic Timothy! I thought that was obvious but in future
I will remember to use a smiley or use sarcasm tags.
I do know a thing or two about open source on z/OS.
On 7/10/2013 9:34 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
David Crayford opines:
I can't see OpenStack ever taking off on the
On 6 October 2013 15:10, esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote:
I would load BPX1GHN on the first invocation and call BPX1GHN. Subsequent
invocations would bypass the LOAD and issue the CALL directly without issuing
another LOAD for BPX1GHN (see code sniper below).
Whatever your
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