Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Tried that, or to copy and got, I didn’t try to backup/restore. ADR971E (001)-ALLOC(01), LOGICAL COPY FOR CLUSTER OMVS.RES213.SCFZHFS2 IN CATALOG USERCAT.GSD FAILED, 2 Which basically states, only can copy EF to EF format. And no, they are not using any EF features. IE, not compressed or >4G

AW: Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple >caveats on how to handle ZFS files. >IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden. This is not true! Read the z/OS Distributed File Service zFS Administration guide, and search for REPRO. It is a described way for certain file

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-09-19, at 12:55, Allan Staller wrote: > > The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree). > I might do that in a different order. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chris Hoelscher wrote: >//IN DD DSN=&UNIQSTOK, >// DISP=(OLD,DELETE) ... > SORT FIELDS=(104,4088,A),FORMAT=CH ... > ICE201I A RECORD TYPE IS F - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 1 > Is that RECFM correct? >

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Nelson, Judith
Hi Jerry, I have looked into the link to the remote database. As far as I understand this is that requires a db2 instance on both LPAR's. :( Thank you, Judith Nelson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nelson,

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Chris Hoelscher
NOEQUALS made it work - thanks to all Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Roger Lowe
Judith/Jerry, BMC's product (Subsystem Optimizer for zEnterprise "Subzero") requires a BASIC or PARALLEL Sysplex environment. Roger On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:30:13 +, Edgington, Jerry wrote: >Yes, Judith. That is correct. I missed that in your

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Chris Hoelscher
My goal is to delete any dups - so getting this far was just the first step Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Yes, Judith. That is correct. I missed that in your email. However, I believe the BMC tool allows you to connect CICS and maybe batch on one LPAR to DB2 on another LPAR. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nelson,

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Dave, Thanks for prompt response. It is always good to have your back. Chris, Here is an optimized JCL which will sort and also eliminate duplicate records in the same step. I removed your JCL sortwork datasets and chose Dynamic Allocation. I also the removed the unwanted DD statements.

Re: REXX performance

2017-09-19 Thread Martin Packer
There are two questions embedded in this: How to work out where the CPU time is going. Whether compiled REXX will go faster. On the first question I generally just use a say with the time function - but that just gives me ELAPSED time. Might be a good approach to searching for the culprit. On

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hi Richard, Elardus, Below last execution with the updates --> <"CONSOLE ACTIVATE NAME("USERID()")" I don't see any results of that CONSOL ACTIVATE command in your posted TRACE. Can you retry your REXX with the

IBM Doc Buddy V2 fix release available

2017-09-19 Thread Jialei Ma
Greetings, We'd like to notify you that the fix release for IBM Doc Buddy mobile app V2 is available. We listened to your earlier feedback about the back arrow behavior and has delivered the fixes. Do you look up IBM Z error messages to resolve technical issues? Would you like to receive IBM

REXX performance

2017-09-19 Thread Jean Bernard
Hello. I'm looking for a software (like STROBE, or IBM APA for Cobol or Db2 program) that can explain us where interpreted REXX CPU consumption is. We tried APA but it says IRX modules and i cannot map with source code. We tried EXECUTIL but it list the sequence of instruction, not the CPU part

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
This question has overtones (undertones?) reminiscent of avoiding PDSE. Just isn't necessary. Our HFS/ZFS files have been SMS managed for many years with no problems. I'm pretty sure that no particular task is required to open an existing file. If DFSMS is broken in some catastrophic way, you

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
So without getting into a philosophical discussion here, it is 100 times easier for cloning and manipulation of ZFS (SYSTEM ONLY) files, when nothing currently exists in SMS routines, besides some HLQ's. Yes I can set this up in SMS and build ACS routines and init volumes as SMS, ETC, as I am

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
BTW, this assumes that none of the ones you want to actually copy, are not using extended format features (like size). My IBM supplied, z/OS filesystems are all non-SMS, and live on my sysres volume. _ Dave Jousma Manager

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Chris Hoelscher
the LRECL, RECFM, DSORG and BLCKSIZE of &UNIQSTOK? Here is where the ds was created //OFA DD DSN=&, // DISP=(NEW,PASS), // SPACE=(CYL,(010,010),RLSE), // UNIT=SYSDA,

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread David Betten
Is it possible your installation default is EQUALS=YES? This causes extra bytes to be added to the sort field internally. Try adding OPTION NOEQUALS after your SORT statement. Have a nice day, Dave Betten z/OS Performance Specialist Cloud and Systems Performance IBM Corporation email:

Re: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread David Betten
Glad it worked. Just to be clear, EQUALS is specified if you want to maintain the original order of records with the same key. With NOEQUALS, records with the same key value may or may not end up in the original order. So be sure you are ok with that before going with NOEQUALS. Have a nice

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they are mounted READ only, then the DFDSS job can be run anywhere. If mounted RDWR,

z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool

2017-09-19 Thread Chris Hoelscher
I *have* read the manual, but am apparently still clueless The jcl //STEP45 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL,REGION=0M //IN DD DSN=&, // DISP=(OLD,DELETE) //OUT DD SYSOUT=X,LRECL=25600 //TOOLIN DD *

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are also lists that are specific to CICS and DB2 that may be helpful should you have more questions To join, if you have not done, go to these URLs. For DB2 - www.idug.org CICShttp://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/cics-l.html > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
Terri, sorry to lead you astray. I guess my brain wasn’t in gear this afternoon. The suggestion Allan gave you is probably the best. If it were my decision, it wouldn’t be worth the effort to convert, but next upgrade Serverpack, I would make the change.

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Matthew Stitt
Does you SMS Storage Class list have one which can be specified to make a dataset non SMS managed? And does your SMS ACS routines test for that non SMS storage class and obey your wishes? If so, then add the STORCLAS parameter to your DFDSS copy job along with the destination volume. Also

Re: REXX performance

2017-09-19 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, at 10:20, Martin Packer wrote: > On the first question I generally just use a say with the time function - > but that just gives me ELAPSED time. Might be a good approach to > searching > for the culprit. Or store a succession of short descriptive texts and elapsed times

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Jorge, Please post the current state of the code *without* the trace version. Bob (not Richard...Richards is my last name) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jorge Garcia Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:40 AM To:

Re: REXX and SDSF question

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Yes, that API does sound nice. This is the technique documented in the Redbook for REXX and SDSF, which was the starting point for my REXX script. Thanks for the tip. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Knowledge Center bugs getting creative

2017-09-19 Thread Andrew Rowley
Knowledge Center bugs are getting more creative. I found the whole TOC spinning today: https://twitter.com/AndrewRowley10/status/910374514252484615 (Why CICS 3.1.0? Because that's what the Google link led to.) -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software +61 413 302 386

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
You can configure your CICS "File Owning Region" (FOR) in CICS TS in the LPAR with DB2, then access that FOR from any interconnected CICS regions -- and from interconnected TXSeries, for that matter. The folks in the CICS-L mailing list likely can provide more details if you need them. Basically,

simple rexx sort

2017-09-19 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I needed a simple sort for the words in a string and came up with this - hope it helps others. There are probably better ways to do this so feel free to share: /* -- rexx * | Simple bubble sort for words in a string (array) | *

Re: REXX performance

2017-09-19 Thread Jean Bernard
Many thanks for the replies, who gave us some ideas. We tried the time function and see that input file was heavy manipulated. i compiled the program and see a reduction of 88% in CPU with exact same output result ! so here the Rexx compiler do the job.

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Jorge Garcia
Excuse me Bob. I post the REXX code /* REXX */ TRACE I "CONSOLE DEACTIVATE" "CONSPROF SOLDISP(NO) SOLNUM(400)"

LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Nelson, Judith
Hi, I am trying to find the best solution for the following problem. We have two LPARs, one of them has DB2 running, the other one hasn't. We do not have a SYSPLEX. We now want to access DB2 data in batch and through CICS, from the LPAR that doesn't have DB2 on it. For the batch side, I looked

Re: STC - APF - confusion

2017-09-19 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:35:23 +, scott Ford wrote: >We are using all functions, since we function as what is now being called a >central site administrator. If you are indeed using _all_ the functions of r_admin (which I suppose is possible, though it seems unlikely to

JCL and PassPhrases?

2017-09-19 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
We are investigating converting users from passwords to passphrases and I was told that both JES2 and JES3 will generate a JCL error if the password in JCL exceeded 8 characters. How do shops get around this to use passphrases? Thanks in advance.

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
Jorge, I've posted this before, but maybe you might try this exec for issuing console commands, and this JCL to execute it: //OPERCMD EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,PARM='%OPERCMDB',REGION=32M //SYSEXEC DD DSN=your.SYSEXEC.dataset,DISP=SHR //SYSIN DD *

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Just in case we are getting hung up on quotes, please put the command in a variable: con_input = 'F CACEPS71,CMD,CACDS,"REPORT") ' Then reference it like this: pass_arg. = "CONSOLE SYSCMD("con_input") CART(CARTREVP)" then after the console activation just this: pass_arg. The next statement

Re: GETMSG null with out ADABAS command

2017-09-19 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:39:55 -0500, Jorge Garcia wrote: >* getcode = GETMSG('salida.','SOL',CARTEVEP,,10) > >L>"salida." > >L>"SOL" > >L>

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Judith, I know of a couple of ways to get batch and CICS to access a remote DB2, which is what you are asking, I believe, because you don't want to setup a DB2 data sharing. 1) Within DB2, you can setup a database as a remote. DB2 admin should know how to do this. 2) BMC has a product that

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Nelson, Judith
Thank you Jerry! Judith Nelson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edgington, Jerry Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LPAR to LPAR access Sorry Judith, Our email

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Judith, I think this link should help with the setup of remote database from DB2 on z/OS. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEPEK_11.0.0/dshare/src/tpc/db2z_sysibmlocationsds.html Here is the BMC tool http://www.bmc.com/it-solutions/subsystem-optimizer.html Jerry -Original

Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Nelson, Judith
Hi Jerry, You are correct with your assumption. :) If I set up the database as remote, wouldn't I still need some kind of a client to connect to it? Could you let me know which product from BMC would do this? Thank you, Judith Nelson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: IBM Doc Buddy V2 fix release available

2017-09-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: LPAR to LPAR access

2017-09-19 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Sorry Judith, Our email system modifies the URL. I think this link should help with the setup of remote database from DB2 on z/OS. www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEPEK_11.0.0/dshare/src/tpc/db2z_sysibmlocationsds.html, Here is the BMC tool

Re: JCL and PassPhrases?

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:19:20 +, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: >We are investigating converting users from passwords to passphrases and I was >told that both JES2 and JES3 will generate a JCL error if the password in JCL >exceeded 8 characters. > >How do shops get around this to use

Re: REXX performance

2017-09-19 Thread Martin Packer
Excellent! Sounds like almost all the pathlength was in REXX statements, not external programs. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs:

Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
So I have a question. Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS datasets? What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simpler way? I know technically this works fine, but I don’t like my system datasets being SMS managed and the previous

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Allan Staller
Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple caveats on how to handle ZFS files. IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden. The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree). There is no painless was to get from here to there. -Original Message-

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Doug Fuerst
I'd back them up and restore to a different name. But if it ain't broke Doug Fuerst Principal Consultant BK Associates 718.921.2620 (O) 917.572.7364 (C) d...@bkassociates.net -- Original Message -- From: "Shaffer, Terri" <017d5f778222-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To:

Eliminating duplicates (was: z/os 2.2 - help with sort/icetool)

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>//TOOLCNTL DD * >OPTION NOEQUALS,DYNALLOC=(SYSDA,8) >SORT FIELDS=(104,4088,A),FORMAT=CH >SUM FIELDS=NONE >//* I always wondered why the function to simply eliminate duplicate records is hidden within the SUM function? This is awkward. Why isn't there a clear and straight forward keyword