Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:43 PM Knutson, Samuel < samuel.knut...@compuware.com> wrote: > Do you the think the z/OS overall ecosystem and the platform is made > stronger or weaker by getting to one JES? > Yes. > > I think that for a core part of the mainframe platform rationalizing to a >

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 “You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor" > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:22 AM, John McKown wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:43 PM Knutson, Samuel < > samuel.knut...@compuware.com> wrote: > >> Do you the think the z/OS

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

Ref: https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3Library I observed one thing. The introductory "new style" screens are portrait oriented and take up a lot of vertical real estate. The new screens generate a lot of unnecessary scrolling. I have a laptop and a

Re: z/OS 2.4 Announcement Letter (Preview)

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:31:17 -0600, John McKown wrote: >> >Yummy! Deploy z/Linux Docker containers on z/OS to run on the z/OS image >itself. I don't know what the NoSQL VSAMDB is, but that sounds interesting >too. > Interesting, yes. Enough enticement for a small shop to want to try running

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

> Do you the think the z/OS overall ecosystem and the platform is made stronger > or weaker by getting to one JES? Well... I guess there are a number of ways to look at that. But I think that IBM runs the risk of losing some number of z/OS customers as a result of this, which could in the

Re: CPU time and zIIP

No more assumptions on my part, so what tools would show the correct time(s) for real time monitoring if not SDSF? RMF? Omegamon? And now that you throw Java in the mix or USS spanned tasks I don't think any real time monitor can account for all CPU time GCPU and zIIPTIME SDSF shows the

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:50 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I would consider JES3 superior to JES2, but such questions rarely have a > consensus answer. > > Is TSO really considered by all to be better than CMS? Is REXX really > considered by all to be better than Perl? Is P/I really considered by

Re: CPU time and zIIP

I Probably wandering off the main topic of the OP's question, my initial response was according to SDSF ECPU% CPU usage consumed within the address space (RMF) to Brians query Hello, I'm trying to understand the CPU and ECPU times displayed on SDSF and the relation to zIIP

IODF batch migration question

When using the IODF batch migration program: //MIGR5EXEC PGM=CBDMGHCP,REGION=4096K, // PARM=('MIGR,B,RESCUE,MVS,PROZZ10,2096,LPAR'), Why must the input include an IOCONFIG statement in the source when it's just going to be ignored and the information on the PARM is used? I

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I'm not the one who says "I hate EBCDIC"; I certainly like EBCDIC better > than ASCII. > My apologies. I was confused. That is "gil". I prefer Unicode, personally. And I really don't want to get into a discussion about "collating

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 2019-02-27 22:00, Susan Shumway wrote: Hi all, I want to make you aware that every PDF in the z/OS V2.3 library was just refreshed to update the visual style and link coding. Because of the link coding changes, clicking on a link in an old-style PDF to a new style PDF will not work, and

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

I'm not the one who says "I hate EBCDIC"; I certainly like EBCDIC better than ASCII. As for Perl, my primary use of it is on OS/2, nd it did things that would have been awkward with REXX. OTOH, I wish that the regex syntax were moe like SNOBOL. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

Sue - long story, sorry: In the 90's we had a web server running (where else?) on MVS with web pages designed for application programmers and others who needed information about various local things - from RACF to TMS to how to get your TSO id cancelled. I created the main web page format

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

I did cards; that was bad enough. And, yes, I would prefer that everyone had full support for Unicode. Collating sequences? That's just the tip of the iceberg for locales. How bout the different time standards? UT1? UT2/ UTC? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 2019-02-28 11:06, Wendell Lovewell wrote: (There might be reasons to replace the spaces with underscores.) Blanks in file names can be a hassle on Linux. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905)

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

Personally, I don't really like the index.html method IBM provides, so I made a VBS script that takes that index and turns it into a pile of Windows shortcuts with group directory names and manual titles (bad characters taken out). Send me an email if you want to try it. On 2/28/2019 8:06

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

Thanks for the update Sue. I'm not sure how we would find out this information without your posting it here. I personally really appreciate you continuing to create the PDF versions of the manuals. But there are a couple of things that would make them a lot easier to use. 1) Could you

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

+1000 Poor use of top half of the screen (I'm referring to KC pages) 1. The 'IBM Knowledge Center' banner needn't be permanent, could be an auto-close area 2. The blue area showing the section that is currently open (Home > z/OS 2.3.0 > etc etc), and the huge section header 3. Table of

Re: What was that link again for IBMLINK?

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Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:41:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm not the one who says "I hate EBCDIC"; I certainly like EBCDIC better than >ASCII. > Why? Is it largely 8-bit vs. 7-bit? Would it be fairer to compare (any of) the EBCDIC code pages to (any of) ISO-8859-x? In either case there's

Re: What was that link again for IBMLINK?

I think that's where it re-directs when you haven't logged on yet. My bookmark is: https://www-03.ibm.com/ibmlink/servicelink/servicelink.wss?lc=en=US That has SIS. I don't know what APARS is. In article you wrote: > IBMLink >

What was that link again for IBMLINK?

I know, it seems several people I know are struggling with the new enhanced IBM search functions So how do they find the following in the IBM website? SIS APARS Thanks Lizette Koehler statistics: A precise and logical method for stating a half-truth inaccurately

Re: What was that link again for IBMLINK?

On 2/28/2019 2:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: I know, it seems several people I know are struggling with the new enhanced IBM search functions So how do they find the following in the IBM website? SIS APARS Lizette, The hostage crisis is over, www.ibmlink.ibm.com works again. Regards, Tom

Re: What was that link again for IBMLINK?

Confirming Tom's post. After *years* of using some other squirrely URL, I switched a while ago back to https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink After automatic redirection, browser lands on this screen, which leads to everything I need: -- ServiceLink The

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

I'm with Larre. I myself have always worked under JES2. Closest I came to JES3 was when the old Bank of America (San Frisco) was swallowing up the late great Security Pacific Bank (LA). BofA was JES3. In a meeting about obstacles to merging, some exec asked "How about first converting SecPac to

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 06:27, Larre Shiller <0102cb4997b0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > A JES3-to-JES2 conversion effort is a high risk change that requires > essentially the same level of effort as a conversion from one platform to > another--but it has the disadvantage of a 100%

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 2/28/2019 2:39 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 1/03/2019 4:10 am, Tom Brennan wrote: Personally, I don't really like the index.html method IBM provides, so I made a VBS script that takes that index and turns it into a pile of Windows shortcuts with group directory names and manual titles (bad

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 18:06:35 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >Is it not possible to run JES2 and JES3 at the same >time on a z/OS image? Certainly you can run multiple JES2s. Yes, there >are a few things that a secondary JES can't do, but I would think that >would be the way to convert. Of course at

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

I think that you have to triple-quote the beginning of the SYM1 value and the end of the SYM2 value, like this: // SET SYM1='''blah,blah,blah' // SET SYM2=',foo,foo,foo''' // SET LONGSYM= In the SET for LONGPARM, the SYM1 and SYM2 values are quote-stripped when they are referenced. HTH Peter

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

On 2/28/2019 3:06 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: I'm not so sure... Is it not possible to run JES2 and JES3 at the same time on a z/OS image? Certainly you can run multiple JES2s. Yes, there are a few things that a secondary JES can't do, but I would think that would be the way to convert. Of course

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 1/03/2019 4:10 am, Tom Brennan wrote: Personally, I don't really like the index.html method IBM provides, so I made a VBS script that takes that index and turns it into a pile of Windows shortcuts with group directory names and manual titles (bad characters taken out).  Send me an email if

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 1/03/2019 9:51 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote: But, is this a collection of PDFs, as Susan seems to say, or a hierarchy or browser pages, as the subsequent plies mostly say? It's a collection of PDFs. The index.html is an old fashioned web page with tables grouping and listing titles with

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: What was that link again for IBMLINK?

Hello! I usually just go to ibm.com/ibmlink and of redirects me to the right place. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure On 01-Mar-2019, at 01:50, Tom Conley wrote: > On 2/28/2019 2:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > I know, it seems several people I know are struggling with the new enhanced >

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:00:57 -0600, Susan Shumway wrote: > >I want to make you aware that every PDF in the z/OS V2.3 library was just >refreshed to update the visual style and link coding. Because of the link >coding changes, clicking on a link in an old-style PDF to a new style PDF will >not

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 16:25:23 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >As I recall now I have had this issue before, and solved it with (or >something like) > >// SET Q= >... >// SET LONGSYM= > Yup. It is a misdesigh that symbols are not substituted between apostrophes in the operand of SET as they are

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 09:39:55 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: >On 1/03/2019 4:10 am, Tom Brennan wrote: >> Personally, I don't really like the index.html method IBM provides, so >> I made a VBS script that takes that index and turns it into a pile of >> Windows shortcuts with group directory names and

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

On 28/02/2019 2:00 pm, Susan Shumway wrote: I want to make you aware that every PDF in the z/OS V2.3 library was just refreshed to update the visual style and link coding. I'm not thrilled by the new style, but I will probably get used to it. What was the objective for the change? My main

How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

I want to set a symbol to a value with lowercase letters and too long to go on one line. (The ultimate destination of the symbol is substitution into a SYSIN file, but that is not where the problem is.) So I am doing // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET SYM1='blah,blah,blah' // SET SYM2=',foo,foo,foo' //

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

Ah, of course, the old triple-quote. Seriously, thanks. My real stuff was a little more complicated than the below and I had to rearrange it to get it to work, but yes, the triple quote solved it. As I recall now I have had this issue before, and solved it with (or something like) // SET Q=

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

IBM published JES3 to JES2 migration redbooks in 2014 and 2018, available here: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248083.pdf http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248427.pdf The general recommendation is a phased, stepwise migration, taking advantage of the fact that IBM supports