Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On 4/13/20 6:06 AM, John McKown wrote: Just curious. I use awk at times for doing stuff in my personal activities. But my manager dislikes UNIX so I can't use it in any of my "production" jobs because "nobody knows UNIX" and "everybody knows REXX". I had that problem. I pointed out there were

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Actually, I considered asserting that there is no such thing as running on z/OS NOT under UNIX. I believe that "z/OS is UNIX" is a true statement. Most of us in this group think of z/OS as a bunch of traditional stuff with USS glued on top. From the Open Group's legal point of view, z/OS is

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:31:13 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >What about BPXWDYN from COBOL? > >I know this is being done. > >And I know of another using BPXWDY2 that will be production in the near future >(alias entry to BPXWDYN). > BPXWDY{N|2} is hardly relevant to UNIX. It isn't mentioned in

Re: Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

Mark, You can sign up to use the "Learning System" here : https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/education/master-the-mainframe It's running z/os 02.03.00 and has Cobol, Pli, and db2. Mike On 4/13/20, Mark Regan wrote: > My wife has been out of the workforce for several years, she had to

Re: Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

Gab just posted that IBM will release a Cobol course on Z next week. this is what he posted: BM is releasing a free training course next week to teach the 60-year-old programming language COBOL to coders. It is also launching a forum where those with knowledge of the language can be matched with

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

A load module derived from C++ and HLASM object code, making socket and other UNIX calls. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

A better article than most of them, I think: https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/new-jersey-unemployment-cobol-coronavirus.html Had to laugh at IBM saying "We're giving away COBOL training to help with this!" - right, just what we need, newbie COBOL programmers fixing mission-critical

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:11:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Since Linux has never been certified as Unix, it seems reasonable that he >means Unix System Services. I could find nothing in the current manuals to >suggest that dubbing is mandatory. > I wonder nowadays which comes closer to the

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Since Linux has never been certified as Unix, it seems reasonable that he means Unix System Services. I could find nothing in the current manuals to suggest that dubbing is mandatory. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

What I meant, but phrased poorly, was explicitly using UNIX facilities such as BPX1* callable services, storing p"permanent" production level application data in a UNIX file vs DSN, or using a UNIX shell & associated UNIX shell commands (e.g.awk) in production JCL. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:17

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Sigh! The system may be 40 years old but the computer in the picture is a lot older. I suspect that the "40 year old" system is like the ax that has been in use for 200 years: the handle has been replaced 20 times and the blade has been replaced 25 times, but it's still the same ax. --

ACM Digital Library content available for free until 2020-06-30

From comp.lang.pl1: The Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) announces: "To help support our community working remotely during COVID-19, we are making all work published by ACM in our Digital Library freely accessible through June 30, 2020." e.g.

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Like talking about a VIN number or an ATM machine. It could be worse, though; I once heard someone refer (really!) to an "automatic ATM machine". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative individuals prefer to work at home, as opposed to an

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

The La Brea Tar Pits. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job? Like talking about a

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Really? I never thought to wonder before now what "La Brea" means. In that case I suppose it's like "rice pilaf", "the hoi polloi" and ... and ... dang, there was another one that's slipped my mind now, food-related I think. One of my favorite linguistic stories is about Captain Cook

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Tuna fish? On 2020-04-13 12:09, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: How about a NIC card? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Do you mean - - using z/OS Unix syscalls? - using the z/OS Unix file system? - using the z/OS Unix shell? FWIW - I contend that there is no such thing as "running under Unix" on z/OS. All please discuss :-) On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:07 AM John McKown wrote: > Other than the implicit use of

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I don't know from bash - I can barely spell it - but despite the popularity of REXX among its adherents, including myself, it doesn't seem to ~me~ that "everyone knows REXX". Didn't I see IBM trying to find REXX programmers to work for them, a year or two ago? --- Bob Bridges,

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I'll dispute that. MVS manages hardware, dispatching, memory, DASD* and I/O. USS "rides" on the back of those. I grant that USS is Unix (and Posix), but it's practically a virtual machine on top of MVS. Contrast with z/Linux. sas *... i.e. it's closer to the hardware anyway. USS filesystems

Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Other than the implicit use of UNIX by things such as FTP, I mean. In particular I am speaking of keeping production data in a UNIX file, rather than a legacy dataset; use of scripting via /bin/sh, awk, or other, use of any of the BPX* UNIX callable services. Just curious. I use awk at times for

AW: Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

There seem to be several online trainings: e.g. https://www.interskill.com/course-catalog/COBOL-IBM-COBOL-for-zOS.html Udemy seems to have classes as well: https://www.udemy.com/course/mainframe-the-complete-cobol-course-from-beginner-to-expert/ Some more links:

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

You are of course 100% correct technically but people refer colloquially to Linux all the time as UNIX so it is not an unreasonable question as to the writer's intent. A trivia question: Which of these is UNIX? Windows Server or Linux? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:48 AM Kirk Wolf wrote: > Do you mean - > > - using z/OS Unix syscalls? > Yes. Such as a COBOL program doing a CALL to BPX1SLP to "sleep" for a while. No, I don't know why they would use that example, I just chose it. > - using the z/OS Unix file system? > Yes to

ACM Articles on Cobol and more

Interesting articles https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10./2667432.2667440 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/15467.15471 Motivating students to acquire mainframe skills https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/2487294.2487308 Lionel B. Dyck < Website:

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

How about a NIC card? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job? [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

The third link Lionel provided below, https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/2487294.2487308, refers repeatedly to the problems states are having keeping up with the demand (in their unemployment-compensation systems) by saying their overworked websites are failing in various ways. But that doesn't

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I assume you mean USS and not Linux on Z. I am not speaking out of school to say that Wells Fargo is a HUGE user of Linux on Z. Marcy Cortes has a SHARE talk "Penguins on the Stagecoach." Any C or C++ program -- assuming the IBM C/C++ compilers -- is using USS (I would say USS services but

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

What about BPXWDYN from COBOL? I know this is being done. And I know of another using BPXWDY2 that will be production in the near future (alias entry to BPXWDYN). Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, John

SMF 30 "queued time" question

I submit a job in CLASS=X. It sits around for five minutes because there is no CLASS X initiator available. When one becomes available it takes off and runs, resulting in three or more SMF 30 records. Question: what field would best reflect that five minutes waiting for a CLASS X initiator?

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Maybe, but I look at it a little differently. IBM has been aware for some time that their customers are hurting for COBOL (and other MVS-related) skills, and has been working on it. This sounds to me like an attempt to publicize something they've been doing all along. If a few more people

Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Yup, this whole thing is akin to somebody complaining that Windows Server 2019 is ancient as well. I'm sure if you dig a bit, you'll find code inside it based on NT technology from the 1980s so why aren't people complaining about that? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that BPXWDYN actually uses Unix syscalls or would cause the AS to be dubbed.I think that the BPX prefix is a little misleading. Ask on mvs-oe and you might get a definite answer from the developer. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com

Getting COBOL training on an actual mainframe

My wife has been out of the workforce for several years, she had to take care of her father. She knows COBOL, but it was the MicroFocus version on Wintel systems. She would like to learn how to use COBOL on z/OS, so is there anyone that teaches it where you learn on z/OS. I know that Marist does

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

If your program requires dubbing then how is it not running under Unix? All three of the facilites you mention require dubbing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Bourne again shell. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

The article mentions Python, but it is 30 years old, and the latest version, v3, is not even backwards compatible with v2 (if I remember correctly). Regards, *Mark T. Regan, K8MTR* CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991 Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017 On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:51 AM Seymour J

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:10:32 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >Any C or C++ program -- assuming the IBM C/C++ compilers -- is using USS (I >would say USS services but that would be redundant). So I guess all of the >customers for my CorreLog -- now BMC -- security product are "using UNIX." > Are

Learning Cobol

Just saw this article and thought I'd share based on some other threads https://www.techrepublic.com/article/learn-cobol-with-these-online-training- courses-and-tutorials/?ftag=CMG-01-10aaa1b

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Has m$ been certified? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:19 AM To:

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Make that any socket program, regardless of the language. If you're still running the Pascal TCP/IP protocol stack, I don;t want to know. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

A Lot of z/OS infrastructure these days uses Unix System Services. Further, some of those services are pretty tightly interwoven with classical MVS component, so "rides" is a bit much. As for Linux, until recently it did not run under z/OS at all. POSIX? These days there is a Single UNIX

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Don't assume that everything with a BPX name is Unix. In this case, it was written as a service for Unix users but is widely used outside of Unix. OTOH, if you use it to allocate a path then an OPEN will dub you. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:53:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It's BPX[WDYN] because it was written for the benefit of Unix users, although >in practice it's used a lot outside of Unix. There is no dub. > >OTOH, if you allocate a path then you probably will want to open it, and that >will cause

Re: zOSMF

Dave I have about 30 different plex's but not all need zOSMF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF Not every lpar. The

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

https://tarpits.org/experience-tar-pits/la-brea-tar-pits-and-hancock-park On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:30 PM Charles Mills wrote: > > The La Brea Tar Pits. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Bob

Re: Apparent bug in CBT 617 SMFREPT

On 13 Apr 2020 18:08:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<071001d611f9$2b278ef0$8176acd0$@mcn.org>) charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: FmtHHMMSS: Procedure Arg SecsX100Bin The solution is to change that first line of code to, for example, SecsX100Bin = Arg(1) I

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

Yes, my version is the last SPF/PC and from the mid-1990's. The later SPF/SE does not support Rexx, edit macros, or even keyboard (PFK) remapping.   It does support Y2K: the current date 2020/04/14 is shown correctly as "20.105". On 13/04/2020 10:28, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020,

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

LOL. All hail Tiberius Caesar! sas On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:24 PM CM Poncelet wrote: > ... > > It does support Y2K: the current date 2020/04/14 is shown correctly as > "20.105". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

You may be right, but in my case at least I don't think it would have made any difference. I was an Accounting student who took one class in computer programming just thinking it sounded boring but I should know something about the subject, and I was immediately hooked. The class was in PL/C,

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

Thanks, but I can write, compile and run any Java program from SPF/PC (howbeit with some 'challenges') as long as it contains no "import" of classes etc.   All I wanted to know is how to change the default ".java" extension to a 3-char one e.g. ".jav", that's all. I can deal with the rest.  

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 21:50:58 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where does MVS do this? Converter? Interpreter? Initiator? Does SVC 99 also do >it, and under what TCB? >Ever notice a typo that you were tempted to leave uncorrected? "Coverter" > Yes, it's done pretty covertly. Authorized Assembler

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 03:56:00 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: >Thanks, but I can write, compile and run any Java program from SPF/PC >(howbeit with some 'challenges') as long as it contains no "import" of >classes etc. >  >All I wanted to know is how to change the default ".java" extension to a >3-char

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 21:50:58 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where does MVS do this? Converter? Interpreter? Initiator? Does SVC 99 also do >it, and under what TCB? >Ever notice a typo that you were tempted to leave uncorrected? "Coverter" > Yes, it's done pretty covertly. Authorized Assembler

Apparent bug in CBT 617 SMFREPT

Unless I am confused there is a nasty little bug in several places in the subject program. If you are using it you might want to fix it. If you are the person who maintains the tape (Sam Golob?) you might want to fix it, or if you don't trust me, at least put a note in the program to this effect.

Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

What's the definition of "volunteer"? The articles I've read say they're looking for volunteers, although I can't believe they're looking for somebody to work for free! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dan at Poodles Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020

Re: SMF 30 "queued time" question

I'd use the reader start time and date. YMMV. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMF 30

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Bob, Yep, I have done for the State of NJ, State of NY and NYC. They are pretty similar, bureaucratic BS. Backward because some of the managment folks were backward or not listening to the techies. Seen a lot of this and Image you all have too. Scott On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:22 PM Bob Bridges

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Nobody asked the real question: "What are they paying?". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

A very few linux distributions have been certified as POSIX compliant. Why have the other Linux distributions not been certified? Money. You have to pay for each release and each platform. So will a user POSIX script / program work on Linux? 99.999% probability.

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

If it's dubbed then it's Unix, but not every BPX* service gets you dubbed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Kirk Wolf [k...@wolf-associates.com] Sent:

zOSMF

With respect to zOSMF, do I need a zFS for every LPAR or can I live on 1 zFS for a PLEX Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

They'll get exactly what they pay for. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

What's the most recent SUS that z/OS is certified for? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, April 13,

Re: zOSMF

Not every lpar. The number of instances though can depend on if you just one JES MAS in the sysplex, or multiple. Some of the features (ISPF, SDSF, etc) are on MAS boundaries. _ Dave Jousma

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

My take is that Universities should be teaching concepts, not language du jour. By all means make freshman programming a required course, but a CS or IT student should get exposure to multiple languages with radically difference semantic, including functional and procedural. -- Shmuel

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:40:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Allocation doesn't do an OPEN. But why call an SVC 99 interface to allocate a >ddname that you plan to never OPEN? > From the JCL Ref.: DD: PATHOPTS ... And if: • The file does not exist, Then MVS performs an open() function. The

oSMF ZFS

I have very little experience with zFS and NONE with zOSMF. With the PATHPREF do I use /zosmf or /usr/lpp/zosmf in the ALLOCATION JCL //ALLOCZ EXEC ALLOCZFS, // FSDSN=SYSTEM.CIMN.ZOSMF.ZFS, //

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

z/OS UNIX is nothing like a virtual machine running under z/OS. It is a bunch of services (APIs) and programs that practically any z/OS job or address space can use. Like John mentioned, your COBOL program running in a JES2 address space can decide long after it starts to make a syscall by

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I would say that it's running under Unix iff it's dubbed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Kirk Wolf [k...@wolf-associates.com] Sent: Monday, April 13,

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Allocation doesn't do an OPEN. But why call an SVC 99 interface to allocate a ddname that you plan to never OPEN? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Okay, make that "any C/C++" socket program. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

It's BPX because it was written for the benefit of Unix users, although in practice it's used a lot outside of Unix. There is no dub. OTOH, if you allocate a path then you probably will want to open it, and that will cause dubbing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 17:46:05 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Make that any socket program, regardless of the language. > >If you're still running the Pascal TCP/IP protocol stack, I don;t want to know. > Interlink? CA? And yet I still see questions, perhaps more on IBMVM, about

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I would say that if you're dubbed then you're running under Unix. If not, not. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:17 AM To:

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Am 13.04.2020 um 15:10 schrieb Charles Mills: I assume you mean USS and not Linux on Z. I am not speaking out of school to say that Wells Fargo is a HUGE user of Linux on Z. Marcy Cortes has a SHARE talk "Penguins on the Stagecoach." Any C or C++ program -- assuming the IBM C/C++ compilers --

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:00:41 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >I could be wrong, but I don't believe that BPXWDYN actually uses Unix >syscalls or would cause the AS to be dubbed. > Suppose the programmer specifies MSG(descriptor)? But that's hardly useful without some other UNIX service to

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

I meant "virtual machine" as a metaphor, not in a technical sense. Arguably not a great one, as it's much more integrated into its host than any actual virtual machine is. My point is that MVS runs the hardware, and USS depends on MVS. sas On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:15 PM Kirk Wolf wrote: >

Re: [External] Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

[Default] On 13 Apr 2020 11:32:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main rpomm...@sfgmembers.com (Pommier, Rex) wrote: >What's the definition of "volunteer"? The articles I've read say they're >looking for volunteers, although I can't believe they're looking for somebody >to work for free! I'm

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

Where does MVS do this? Converter? Interpreter? Initiator? Does SVC 99 also do it, and under what TCB? Ever notice a typo that you were tempted to leave uncorrected? "Coverter" -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:18:06 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > >At one of the two sites, we experimented with USS, because it was a >requirement for rDz, >... >To enable all users to use USS segments for rDz was a performance >nightmare; > I have wondered previously in these lists whether more

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

Back in the 1960s companies that were still doing accounting by hand or EAM would blame billing errors on their imaginary computer. So why not blame COBOL? In fact, why not blame COBOL even if the application was written in some other language? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: zOSMF

Thanks Dave It also appears that 95% of the work is a bunch for RACF work on zos 2.2 and its 23 jobs On zOS 2.4 its now 43 jobs give or take -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, at 04:13, CM Poncelet wrote: > SPF/PC is the CTC PC-version of ISPF/PDF. It supports Rexx (but not the > full IBM REXX), ISREDIT edit macros, primary and line commands, tables, > panels etc., and it also supports assembling, compiling, link-editing > and executing programs -

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

I'm familiar with SPF/PC and that's great for simple editing with something familiar from ISPF. However, if you want to learn Java beyond "hello world" you will need an IDE. Java is a complex language and just creating packages and classes is onerous using a text editor. You need context