Announcement: CICS Auxiliary Trace Visualizer (new version 2.0)

2020-07-02 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Hi all, I've recently modernised the aux2svg rexx procedure - which, until now, was packaged as an example in the RexxXMLParser github repository and CBT FILE647 - and moved it to a separate github respository at: https://github.com/abend0c1/aux2svg The new version (which I last updated in 200

Re: IPSEC Configuration and Performance

2020-07-02 Thread kekronbekron
Ditto, sorry to go "off-topic" again ... I hope IBM is reading this, and hope they look to adding WireGuard support on Z. >From what little I know, WireGuard is far more manageable and performant than >IPSec & IKEv2. Adding WireGuard support to z/OS shouldn't be too much of a "deviation" too, co

Re: Announcement: CICS Auxiliary Trace Visualizer (new version 2.0)

2020-07-02 Thread kekronbekron
Very cool, thank you! - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:52 PM, Andrew Armstrong wrote: > Hi all, > > I've recently modernised the aux2svg rexx procedure - which, until now, was > packaged as an example in the RexxXMLParser github repository and CBT FILE647 >

syslogd assist

2020-07-02 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I recently enabled syslogd and have it logging to operlog. I now see messages like this and could use some advice on how to resolve: BPXF060I LOGGED BY SYSLOGD FROM A LOCAL SOURCE 000 Jul 2 08:33:52 S0W1 sshd[65785]: error: FOTS1503 __passwd: EDC5143I No such process.

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 01.07.2020 o 20:57, Frank Swarbrick pisze: Thanks Tim. I can't imagine being comfortable writing new code, at least, for a compiler that has not been updated in 35 years, but maybe that's just me. 🙂 Now that we know what languages are still supported, I am still curious if anyone out

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Joe Monk
Honestly, this whole discussion is kind of pointless, no? z/os IBM/390 IBM/370 IBM/360 all share ... instruction set. While the newer models all have newer instructions, object code assembled on a 360 is just as valid today as it was in 1960. Joe On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:13 AM R.S. wrote: > W

Automation message id for TCPIP and monitoring

2020-07-02 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello Cross posted Could someone have list of message ID of vtam and TCPIP which you normally monitor via automation product ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lists

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 5:56 AM Joe Monk wrote: > Honestly, this whole discussion is kind of pointless, no? > > z/os IBM/390 IBM/370 IBM/360 all share ... instruction set. While the > newer models all have newer instructions, object code assembled on a 360 is > just as valid today as it was in 19

Re: Automation message id for TCPIP and monitoring

2020-07-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:04 AM Jake Anderson wrote: > Hello > > Cross posted > > Could someone have list of message ID of vtam and TCPIP which you normally > monitor via automation product ? > > Jake > > The basics of our network startup. JES2 automatically starts at IPL. Message $HASP492 from J

Re: Automation message id for TCPIP and monitoring

2020-07-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM John McKown wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:04 AM Jake Anderson > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Cross posted >> >> Could someone have list of message ID of vtam and TCPIP which you normally >> monitor via automation product ? >> >> Jake >> >> > The basics of our networ

Re: Sort Jcl to build a Update table control card

2020-07-02 Thread Ron Thomas
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RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Ron Wells
Anyone have any dealing with Sailpoint product.. Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the i

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Jackson, Rob
Unfortunately, yes. We run it. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RACF-SailPoint [External Email. Exercise caution when

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Ron Wells
Unfortunately --- lol What experiences/problems you have had on MF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF-SailPoint ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Unfortu

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
Unfortunately, yes, a bit. I only have to deal with the mainframe connector and at this point it's only used for reporting but they're looking at making it do a bunch more. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:29

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Ron Wells
That is what concerns me...too me it is a BREECH of security Want to stay off list.. my email is ron.we...@omf.com They only mentioned a exit/api needs to be installed >> bother me ... trying to get pros/cons and what others have experienced.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Disc

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Jackson, Rob
As with Rex, I deal only with the Connector. The install is kind of kludgy, but it's not bad. If I remember correctly, the security setup for the service accounts (requires two) was not well documented. Unlike Rex, we use ours for dynamic provisioning right now. Users request and get approva

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Jackson, Rob
The exits are needed only if you use the Online Interceptor (send RACF admin commands to SailPoint). We do not use that; I didn't put my foot down (but I would have); instead, I gently steered them to nightly/on-demand Aggregation only, and that has been good enough. First Horizon Bank Mainfra

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Pommier, Rex
Fortunately I didn't have to put my foot down. We also only use the offline interceptor. I agree that the SP folks only understand AD so when they brought it in, they dropped the mainframe manual on my desk and said "here, install this and let us know when it's done" so I got free rein and mad

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 1 Jul 2020 21:39:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Do you mean only that IBM has changed the underlying hardware used to >implement what they called Machine Interface (MI) on the S/38, or do you mean >that they have changed the MI itself? I d

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread David Spiegel
"... BREECH ..." Congratulations on the new baby! On 2020-07-02 09:19, Ron Wells wrote: That is what concerns me...too me it is a BREECH of security Want to stay off list.. my email is ron.we...@omf.com They only mentioned a exit/api needs to be installed >> bother me ... trying to get pros/c

When did .net become obsolete? was Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 2 Jul 2020 02:13:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: >> snip > >BTW: As a mainframe bigot I sometimes am forced to explain why so old >things are still in use. Yes, z14 or z15 is veery old. As old as >z/OS 2.4, or DB2. It is hard job,

Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Goetze
I'm trying to use IEBCOPY to unload a single PDS member that has aliases. According to IBM's documentation: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idau100/cpogrp.htm this should be possible: For unloading groups: Using COPYGRP: PDSE to PS

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Are the members Source or LOAD modules? If Load modules, use COPYMOD Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Goetze Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with

Re: When did .net become obsolete? was Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Joe Monk
.NET 3.5 includes all earlier versions. Current .NET is 4.8.x which include 4.6.2 and 4.7.2. Joe On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:39 AM Clark Morris wrote: > [Default] On 2 Jul 2020 02:13:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: > > >> snip > > > >BTW: As a mai

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Also review COPYGROUP COPYGRP They behave a little different Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Goetze
Hi Lizette, Unfortunately, COPYMOD can't create an unload data set. --Steve Dovetailed Technologies www.dovetail.com On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:33 AM Lizette Koehler wrote: > Are the members Source or LOAD modules? > > If Load modules, use COPYMOD > > Lizette > > > -Original Message- >

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Beaver
I have and usually the biggest problem is the intigrator Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Jul 2, 2020, at 08:15, Ron Wells > <02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Unfortunately --- lol > What experiences/problems you have ha

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
> The only thing which might not work would > be something which was CPU speed dependent. That's not the only thing. A program that relies on getting certain program interrupts might fail. Then there's the ASCII bit, although I would be very surprised if anybody actually used it. There are optio

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Try running, e.g., IBM 7094 EMULATOR FOR THE SYSTEM/360 MODEL 85 UNDER OS/360 PROGRAM NUMBER 360C-EU-134. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joe Monk [jo

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
If you are going to include OS compatibility as well as hardware compatibility then there are issues such as control blocks that have been moved above line. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent:

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
WTF? Where do you see "OS compatibility"? The issues that I raised were all architecture and instruction set. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mi

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Smith
Obviously, there's an error in the documentation. Evidently, the manual writer got the two commands mixed up in your first quote. Which is hardly surprising. Having two commands with a subtle difference in names and behavior is ridiculous. sas On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:03 AM Steve Goetze wrot

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-02 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/1/20 10:19 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: You can join developerworks and license z/PDT, which is what I and most people do. It's not that expensive, and it won't kill you like buying that big old Harley-Davidson will. Does joining DevelperWorks change the pricing? Because z/PDT (or whateve

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Why do you have to be so hostile? I did not see any mention of OS compatibility. That is precisely why I mentioned it. I raised additional issues beyond what you raised. WTF indeed. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
FWIW there was a long thread here on COPYGRP/COPYGROUP March 3 through 6 of this year. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: RACF-SailPoint

2020-07-02 Thread Ron Wells
Tks for the info--anything else will be helpful .. Smartphones not that smart.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF-SailPoint ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTIO

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Why do you have to be so hostile? Why do you have to be such a hypocrite? I'm not hostile in general. But when you rant about imaginary hostility and gratuitously insult me, I see no reason to be concerned with your delicate feelings in subsequent messages. > I did not see any mention of OS

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
+1 And it is more like $5600/yr if I read the ADCD pricing correctly at $900/yr to continue support for another year ($4700/yr for the one-CPU dongle, $900/yr for the ADCD stack). So that is about equivalent to buying a new SUV on a 5- or 6-year purchase plan (not including insurance), or abou

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-02 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Yes I did. Assembles just fine. Even put the code in to indicate z/OS 2.4. Everything works okay except for the fetch...which is what we need. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:40:23 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Also review > >COPYGROUP >COPYGRP > >They behave a little different > I recall this was discussed here several months ago. IBM's design was irresponsible. The two terms are too easily confused, particularly in oral communication betwee

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
How about the original question - Is there a way to unload from a PDS the "group" (name plus aliases) for a given member name and reload it to another PDS ? On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 1:02 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:40:23 -0700,

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Tom Conley
On 7/2/2020 2:06 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: How about the original question - Is there a way to unload from a PDS the "group" (name plus aliases) for a given member name and reload it to another PDS ? Kirk, If you don't have it already, you should install PDS (file 182 at cbttape.org). It has mem

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
JTIP? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Longnecker, Dennis Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SuperWylbur Users Yes I did. Assembles

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 18:29:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >JTIP? > GIYF? https://www.google.com/search?q=JTIP -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
JES TSO Interface Program. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Goetze
I'm not sure that I agree that this was a tech writer command mixup. The COPYGROUP statement was created to be a superset of COPYGRP, adding better PDS support in addition to providing SELECT member name filter patterns. I'm not saying that it isn't working as designed, but it sure seems like a h

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Smith
It is irrelevant where the blame lies for the document. I should have just said that it got the capabilities of COPYGRP and COPYGROUP switched. You might try copying from the PDS to a temporary PDSE, and then you can unload that. You can work on where and which COPYG* would work best. I experim

What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

2020-07-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
I am seeing some DS8000s where a mod-27 is defined as 30051 cylinders. I am seeing other sites were the mod-27 is defined with 32760 cylinders. I know the architectural limit of a mod-27 is 32760 cylinders, but if you work with multiples of mod-1 units, the 30051 number make sense. I also kno

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

2020-07-02 Thread Mike Schwab
Some physical devices only allocate volumes in multiples of Mod 1s, or gather scattered Mod 1 segments into a full volume. 32K cylinders is 29.4 times a Mod 1 of 1113 cylinders. Not much different, but need to make sure DR site or replacement dasd unit uses same size or larger for restores or rep

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

2020-07-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Keep in mind that you are dealing with virtual DASD. There never was a 3390 model 27 or 54, so DASD providers are free to use whatever sizes tey want. Using 3 times a model 9 capacity and 6 times a model 9 capacity is conventional, but there's noting wrong with using a slightly larger size. Ther

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

2020-07-02 Thread Feller, Paul
Tony to answer your questions. In this shop a MOD-27 is 32,760 cyls and a MOD-54 is 65,520 cyls. As for how they are allocated, that I can't answer. We don't have IBM DASD and the vendor we have does the configuration based on what we ask for. Just to round things out the EAVs we do have are

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

2020-07-02 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 2, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Feller, Paul <02fc94e14c43-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > In this shop a MOD-27 is 32,760 cyls and a MOD-54 is 65,520 cyls. As for how > they are allocated, that I can't answer. Several years ago I moved all our DASD to “3390-54” with 65,520 cylinders

Re: What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54 [EXTERNAL]

2020-07-02 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > > I consider them while “I consider them experimental while …” -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruc

Re: IPSEC Configuration and Performance

2020-07-02 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/2/20 1:27 AM, kekronbekron wrote: Ditto, sorry to go "off-topic" again ... I hope IBM is reading this, and hope they look to adding WireGuard support on Z. I would be mildly, but pleasantly, surprised to see WireGuard added to z/OS. Adding WireGuard support to z/OS shouldn't be too much o

Civility (was z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages)

2020-07-02 Thread Bob Bridges
Mr Metz resolutely straightens everyone else's pictures, in this listserv, but is very sensitive about his own. Most of us, it seems to me, forgive him and ignore it. You did cross a line, though, Seymour, this time. I perceive no hostility in Mr Mills' post, and yours positively bristled with i

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread zMan
So you interpreted "If you are going to..." as "Because you are"; Charles clearly meant it as "If one were to..." English can be ambiguous, but comity will get you a lot further than knee-jerk defensiveness. This applies in real life, too, and might explain some folks' employment difficulties. Jus

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-02 Thread Brian Westerman
How much would a hobbyist pay for a Harley, a really nice drone, or some of the other expensive hobbies. People pay upwards of $1K a year for a new phone. I did get a discount on that, but I suppose you are correct, if you can't justify the cost, then it might seem too much. Although, the alt