Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
IBM have a patent on the SORTL instruction. I guess they are entitled to do that but IMHO what it does is hardly new. How it does it, perhaps. I wish I had patented run flat tires. It was my idea many years ago. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 5:14 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > The broken US patent

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Mike Hochee
I do not have an accurate big picture nor a decent set of data to work with, but here are a few google hits that do not inspire confidence, just anecdotal stuff of course https://www.cbronline.com/news/aws-servers-hacked-rootkit-in-the-cloud

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
It was me that said they were pathetic and I stand by that remark. There's a website that has a "stupid patent of the month" which is dominated by IBM. Here's a good one! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/stupid-patent-month-ibm-patents-out-office-email A lot of my colleagues are ex

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Steve Thompson
Having been at a company IBM acquired, we were told that if we could come up with a novel way to throw paper into a trash can Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Oct 11, 2020, at 10:39 PM, David Crayford wrote: > > It was me that

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
I would think one needs to distinguish between AWS infrastructure flaws -- what IBM would call violations of the statement of integrity -- versus dumb user errors. The pop press is going to call it "an AWS hack" even if it was because someone left their userid and password behind on a Post-It note

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-10-12 12:19 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: Amazon, PayPal, & Apple either have a mainframe (PayPal did when I interviewed there) In what parallel universe did Amazon, Paypal run a mainframe? lala-land? If I google "paypal technology stack" and I don't see a mainframe! Mainframes are for

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Did you want them to wait for someone else to patent it and have an expensive court battle to invalidate it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Sunday,

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-11 Thread Joseph Reichman
Seymour mentioned it was the same TCB But different RB or more specifically IRB > On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Binyamin Dissen > wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 09:08:54 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: > > :>>if there is any restriction on deleting an ALET entry > :>>(ALESERV DELETE) from a

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Mike Hochee
Charles, you must've found my creds! Please dispose of them in a secure manner. :-) You make a good point. And to muddy things further, the AWS user community seems to use the term 'hack' when referring to techniques to accomplish things that are completely acceptable and above-board. Mike

Re: German Tech giant Software AG down after ransomware attack

2020-10-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Passport and health bills on a company network? That's what happens with a chancellor from East Germany? The Stasi would be proud. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:13 AM Charles Mills wrote: > > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/software-ag-it-giant-hit-with >

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I'll say it again. In 1979 IBM had very little interest in what was to become the PC market. The PC did unify the market somewhat. As a software house we had to provide solutions for one-off purchases to people who had no clue. In two years I worked on Apple IIE clone, Altos 8000, Cromemco

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Unfortunately, the U.S. patent system creates warped incentives for emerging software fields like road-safety features. Rather than competing in a challenging space, some players are seeking broadly-worded patents, then hope to sit back and extract profits later. That may be the strategy of the

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
Hold on, I'll post them here for you in a minute. "Hack" and "hacker" has always had the two meanings, the white and black hat meanings. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Hochee Sent: Sunday, October 11,

Re: Does SAS support LE modules in the CALL MODULE statement?

2020-10-11 Thread Attila Fogarasi
See http://support.sas.com/kb/57/207.html for a rather old hotfix to allow LE to be called from SAS without abending ... would expect it to be in the base by now. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 5:07 AM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > Does SAS support LE modules in the CALL MODULE statement? > > I have been

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-10-11 11:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: At my exit interview, my manager asked why I was leaving. I told him I was going to work for a start-up developing applications for Intel 8080 and Z80 microcomputers. He said, "you can work out a months notice because I don't ever see IBM getting

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
IBM would be in the discussion for massive market cap today if not for the government forcing them out of the PC market.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:48 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: At 6.5%, the iPhone maker’s share in the S 500 just surpassed the record

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
To complement: AFAIK it is impossible to sign a contract with "full responsibility" of such cloud provider. In some cases it is required by govt regulators. I heard about fiasco of migration to cloud project just because of that. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 11.10.2020 o 

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I get it. IBM says something, its a lie. AZURE/AWS says it, it’s gospel. Thanks for clearing that up. Give me an example of a company using AZURE/AWS cloud for mission critical, highly sensitive information? Then Google all the hacks and crashes of those 2 cloud platforms. Sent from Yahoo

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
I buy stuff on Amazon, use Apple wallet and Paypal so I guess my personal financial data is already on the cloud. I won't be losing any sleep about that and have no plans to go back to using cash or shopping exclusively in stores. On 2020-10-11 1:10 PM, Mike Hochee wrote: Over the last few

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Bingo. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:10 AM, Mike Hochee wrote: Over the last few years I have hoped IBM would become more of a cloud player and attempt to marry some of the long-standing and well established zEnterprise strengths;  security, reliability,

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
IBM patents are mostly pathetic. They patent stuff like "how to create a railroad diagram using REXX . It's embarrassing! The likes of Google, Facebook and even the new Microsoft open source all of their code so everybody can use it for free. Software patents are nothing more then bargaining

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Looks to me like those census problems weren’t mainframe related at all. I didn’t say enterprises don’t use AZURE or AWS. They do. They just don’t use them for mission critical, highly sensitive information. If you walk into a pharmacy for life saving meds, you want 99.999+ up time. You also

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread David Crayford
Who said it has anything to do with the mainframe? The point was that IBM's cloud is not great. Mainframes don't, wont and never will have a role in public clouds. They are for running legacy applications. Maybe hybrid clouds may adopt some z? I certainly hope so. Anything that modernizes the

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
IBM, as usual, almost always leads the US in patents. This year is no exception. Which indicates how intelligent their engineers are. IBM laid the groundwork for much of today’s IT. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 1:43 AM, zMan wrote: Well, big companies ARE

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
So market cap is now the determining factor for the best companies? Here’s the 1980 list of market cap leaders. Had IBM not been forced out of the PC market, I’d bet IBM would still be at or near the top, and MSFT wouldn’t be. 1980: 1. IBM 2. AT 3. Exxon 4. Standard Oil of Indiana 5.

Re: PCOMM

2020-10-11 Thread Rod
In more recent versions of PCOMM, to autocopy to clipboard a selected area of text: Settings / Edit / CutCopy / Autocopy check box: "Autocopy This option enables you to automatically copy the selected text to the clipboard. After you mark an area on the screen, the selected text is

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 09:08:54 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :>>if there is any restriction on deleting an ALET entry :>>(ALESERV DELETE) from a STIMERM exit :>It is not a "restriction", it is a "does not make sense" situation. It :>goes well beyond "delete". :>IRBs (STIMERM exits being one such) do

German Tech giant Software AG down after ransomware attack

2020-10-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/german-tech-giant-software-ag-down- after-ransomware-attack/

Re: PCOMM

2020-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
I found where I could use the keyboard mapping to do edit-copy and edit-paste. IBM or HCL finally fixed it in V14 Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Oct 11, 2020, at 13:11, Rod wrote: > > In more recent versions of PCOMM, to autocopy to

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 15:50:14 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >They were forced out in a lawsuit first filed in 1969 that the government/IBM >settled in early 80’s. I’m not referring to them selling their PC business to >Lenovo. Read up. It set up MSFT to dominate the PC software market. IBM and

Re: German Tech giant Software AG down after ransomware attack

2020-10-11 Thread Charles Mills
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/software-ag-it-giant-hit-with -23-million-ransom-by-clop-ransomware/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/09/software_ag_ransomware/ Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:40:07 -0700 (PDT), in bit.listserv.ibm-main computer chyck wrote: >> snip much > >Cloud computing is alot like teenage sex - everybody is doing it (or wants to >do it) but nobody has a flippin' clue how to do it correctly!!! What I fear is that Amazon and

Re: Group Capacity

2020-10-11 Thread Roger Lowe
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:29:19 +, Richards, Robert B. wrote: >I am trying to define Group Capacity on a z14_ZR1 and am having trouble. The >only group there is . > >I had no trouble when using a previous HMC to define groups for a zEC12. > >IIRC, I define the group and the capacity limit,

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
Bill, I know that. I just complemented your answer. BTW: I also wasn't the person wrote about IBM was not forced out. However I believe you also knew that. Fortunately listserv is written, so everyone may read the history and re-read if needed. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
True. Thanks. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:36 PM, R.S. wrote: Bill, I know that. I just complemented your answer. BTW: I also wasn't the person wrote about IBM was not forced out. However I believe you also knew that. Fortunately listserv is written, so

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I worked for a health care company. Pharmacies in hospitals run 24 by 7. Walgreens runs 24 by 7 in many markets. So does CVS & Rite Aid. If they can’t access your health records in real time at nearly 100% of the time, you might die. And, if your info is hacked or compromised, each instance can

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
And yes, we had battery and generator backup.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:18 PM, David Crayford wrote: Who said it has anything to do with the mainframe? The point was that IBM's cloud is not great. Mainframes don't, wont and never will have a role in

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, but the patent *process* is. In principle the USPTO should not issue a patent obvious to practitioners or that is prior art; in reality, it happens all the time. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
The sale to Lenovo was in 2005; the consent decree was by then irrelevant. IBM was losing market share. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Was there a time machine involved? The sold out to Lenovo in 2005, and by that time they were losing market share. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson

Does SAS support LE modules in the CALL MODULE statement?

2020-10-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Does SAS support LE modules in the CALL MODULE statement? I have been searching the doc and see no reference to LE. Is it possible that such subroutines are not supported? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
The broken US patent system forces IBM to take out defensive patents, and they're far from the only ones to do so. Note that if USPTO denies the paten as prior art or as obvious to a practitioner, that blocks anybody else from patenting it, which achieves IBM's objective. IBM is far from the

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
IBM does indeed process 90% of credit card transactions. Maybe not at POS, but at the backend. (POS- point of sale) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 11:28 AM, zMan wrote: A fair question. That's based on working with all of the top-ten processors, most or all of

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
One example of a failed implementation, is hardly representative of anything really. I’ve seen hundreds of failed implementations in my 40 years on every platform. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 11:13 AM, R.S. wrote: To complement: AFAIK it is impossible to

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
You are right, but it wasn't just failed implementation. It was blocker from legal point of view - both parties wanted to do the business, but government law demanded this liability. So, no other attempt of any other company (in this business) would be possible. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz,

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
They were forced out in a lawsuit first filed in 1969 that the government/IBM settled in early 80’s. I’m not referring to them selling their PC business to Lenovo. Read up. It set up MSFT to dominate the PC software market. IBM and Microsoft: Antitrust then and now  | | | | ||

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
New IBM mainframe can process 1 trillion web transactions a day  | | | | || | | | | | New IBM mainframe can process 1 trillion web transactions a day IBM is out with its newest mainframe - z15. Yahoo Finance sat down with Tom Rosamilia, the Senior Vice President of

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
IBM z15 release shines light on how much is still being run on a mainframe | ZDNet  | | | IBM z15 release shines light on how much is still being run on a mainframe | ZDNet | | | Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 11:53 AM, David Crayford

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
W dniu 11.10.2020 o 16:36, Robin Vowels pisze: On 2020-10-12 00:57, Bill Johnson wrote: So market cap is now the determining factor for the best companies? Here’s the 1980 list of market cap leaders. Had IBM not been forced out of the PC market, I’d bet IBM would still be at or near the top,

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Amazon, PayPal, & Apple either have a mainframe (PayPal did when I interviewed there) or their transactions are processed by a bank, which uses the mainframe.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 11:53 AM, David Crayford wrote: I buy stuff on Amazon, use Apple

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
Patents are not pathetic. Other companies still make new patents. Including those like Microsoft and Google. Patents are still valid and important even if some company have only few of them or cannot make any. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 11.10.2020 o 18:11, Bill Johnson

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread R.S.
W dniu 09.10.2020 o 04:25, zMan pisze: Nope, IBM doesn't process 90% of credit card transactions. Most processors are on distributed, with a lot of HPE NonStop in the mix, but also other platforms. Can you provide any source of this statement? From my limited knowledge it seems NonStop is

Group Capacity

2020-10-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I am trying to define Group Capacity on a z14_ZR1 and am having trouble. The only group there is . I had no trouble when using a previous HMC to define groups for a zEC12. IIRC, I define the group and the capacity limit, then I assign the group name to the activation profile "processor" tab.

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Robin Vowels
On 2020-10-12 00:57, Bill Johnson wrote: So market cap is now the determining factor for the best companies? Here’s the 1980 list of market cap leaders. Had IBM not been forced out of the PC market, I’d bet IBM would still be at or near the top, and MSFT wouldn’t be. "Forced out". I think not.

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread zMan
A fair question. That's based on working with all of the top-ten processors, most or all of whom still use NonStop. Compaq bought Tandem, HP bought Compaq, then when HP split into HP and HPE, the NonStop business went to HPE. Yes, NonStop is way down from its peak. Credit card processing seems

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
PayPal’s mainframe is here in Ohio. Or was when I interviewed there. Apple has em too. Why on Earth Is IBM Still Making Mainframes? | WIRED  | | | | || | | | || Why on Earth Is IBM Still Making Mainframes? | WIRED On Tuesday, IBM launched the z13 mainframe, which

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
So everything IBM says/does are lies and pathetic?The comedy here is worth its weight in gold. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:08 PM, David Crayford wrote: IBM patents are mostly pathetic. They patent stuff like "how to create a railroad diagram using REXX

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I’m not talking about the exit from selling PC’s. (Lenovo dale) I’m talking about the lawsuit the US government filed in 1969 and was settled in the early 80’s that forced IBM out of the PC market (software & hardware) that they dominated at the time. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Yeah, been hearing the imminent demise stories since the 1990’s. Yet, IBM keeps pumping out world class mainframes. And still processes the majority of important transactions. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:18 PM, David Crayford wrote: Who said it has

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I agree. It wasn’t me who said they were pathetic. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:26 PM, R.S. wrote: Patents are not pathetic. Other companies still make new patents. Including those like Microsoft and Google. Patents are still valid and important even if