Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Perhaps your outsourcer will accept recommendations by IBM in an official apar, see https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/II09294 This says in part "If you can accept slower response times or occasional slower response times and the load is not too great, CFs in shared LPs may be a viable

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Laurence Chiu
That is what I suggested and I was told there were no spare "connections" between the two hosts but they didn't elaborate. I have been asked if those connections are ICA-SR or IFB and reading the manual linked in this thread, I think they are IFB since that is what is supported on the Z13's. If

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-06 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 06.03.2023 02:43, David Crayford wrote: I'm sure your BSF4ooRexx is a really nice library. But it's moot point talking about it on this forum because ooRexx has not been ported to z/OS, I'm sorry to say that I think it probably never will be. That would be unfortunate and actually a

Re: BMC IAM and DFHSM DATALOSS

2023-03-06 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I see two possibilities: Either IAM is somehow managing to update the file in a way that doesn't end up with the changed bit set for the file -- might possibly happen if the file is never properly closed by the task that updates it-- maybe if the file is opened for update the changed bit only

Re: Time of last Power On Reset

2023-03-06 Thread Jim Elliott
Michael: I think that is just the HMC. I had already found that (Shutdown or Restart) in the tasks performed log, but everything else in that log seems to be HMC related. Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: ZFS File System Recall, Hanging OMVS

2023-03-06 Thread Michael Babcock
We use CA-DISK and I believe ours is set to not migrate. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 10:28 AM Mark Jacobs < 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > This past weekend we experienced a somewhat unusual problem, with > unexpected side effects. Wondering if anyone else has seen this

Re: Time of last Power On Reset

2023-03-06 Thread Michael Babcock
I believe it’s in HMC Management, audit and log management, First select the TASKS PERFORMED LOG, then select the limit date and time, go back to the year you installed the CEC. Make sure you select a date in the calendar pop up, then select ok. Once you see the date selected, then hit okay.

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
And this was long before Thin ICF provisioning on a CP with interrupts. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:07 PM Attila Fogarasi wrote: > > Perhaps your outsourcer will accept recommendations by IBM in an official > apar, see https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/II09294 > This says in part "If you can

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
Does an OOS z13 support ICF thin provisioning with nterrupts? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 1:12 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Michael Babcock
I agree. We use a permanent maintenance LPAR which is generally not up. With ServerPac, it didn’t matter we could select it as the target from our driving system. With z/OSMF, if run on the driving system, z/OSMF wanted the target up and wanted to communicate with it via z/OSMF. Not good for

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
ICF Thin interrupts introduced at level 19 for z12+ https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/JZB2E38Q On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:36 PM Gibney, Dave <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Does an OOS z13 support ICF thin provisioning with nterrupts? > > > -Original Message- > >

Re: BMC IAM and DFHSM DATALOSS

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
Try VTOC backups after Recall 3 and update 5 and restore 7 and compare. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:08 AM Dave Jousma <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > All, > > We just learned that we have a problem with IAM (Innovation Access Method) > the high perf replacement for

BMC IAM and DFHSM DATALOSS

2023-03-06 Thread Dave Jousma
All, We just learned that we have a problem with IAM (Innovation Access Method) the high perf replacement for VSAM. No idea how long it has been going on, and I have tickets open with both BMC and IBM on this. Seems to only affect IAM files, and exists in both z/OS V2.4, and V2.5, and

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Michael Babcock
Same here On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:23 AM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Barbara, > > Can you actually log onto ShopZ? I get the "welcome to ShopZ" and am able > to log in, but once logged in is when I get the page not found error. > > Rex > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Barbara

Re: Time of last Power On Reset

2023-03-06 Thread Jim Elliott
Found it. POR shows up in the Audit log on the HMC. Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Laurence Chiu
This is very helpful, thanks. Plus I have the document which is an IBM official document. On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 10:07 AM Attila Fogarasi wrote: > Perhaps your outsourcer will accept recommendations by IBM in an official > apar, see https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/II09294 > This says in

Re: Time of last Power On Reset

2023-03-06 Thread Michael Babcock
Oops, sorry that may not be it. I assumed it meant the CEC but I think it was just the HMC. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:22 AM Michael Babcock wrote: > I believe it’s in HMC Management, audit and log management, First select > the TASKS PERFORMED LOG, then select the limit date and time, go

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Rob Schramm
I think the promise of zosmf is far beyond just a server pack replacement. Yeah server pack was great for what it was but when it comes to the grind of installing over and over and over again and the customization the workflow features I believe really hold the promise to fixing what is a

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Shopz is back up and running. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: יום ב 06 מרץ 2023 19:25 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shopz Same here On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:23 AM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Barbara, > > Can you

Re: zOS 3.1 - zosmf

2023-03-06 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> Is there any videos created by IBM to demonstrate it's usage for installing > the products? Check out this page for some good information: https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/serverpac-install-zosmf/ In particular on the Try it tab there is a link to a video tutorial for

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Harris Randy - Nashville
I have no problem with a new process if some want to use it. My whole point is why take the option away from those who prefer to continue to use it. I like serverpac. Randy Harris Consulting System Programmer HCA Healthcare From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Rob Schramm
See you are missing the point. If you have 117 lpars, of course you going to work on making the process actually work. Because every minute you save in that process is worth 2 hours. The point is is that for each institution that's done that there's a bunch that haven't or they've got some

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Shaffer, Terri
When I worked at Chase bank, We had 117 LPARS and maintenance/clone was a 30 minute task. So adding z/OSMF was never even brought up as a consideration. So while I understand the direction IBM is headed, its adding LOTS of layers to something that sound not be hard. Running thru screens vs

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Terri, "...MVS 1.3.8..." I don't remember 1.3.8. Which year was this? (I've heard of MVS 3.8 and MVS/SP 1.3, though.) Regards, David On 2023-03-06 20:12, Shaffer, Terri wrote: When I worked at Chase bank, We had 117 LPARS and maintenance/clone was a 30 minute task. So adding z/OSMF was

Re: BMC IAM and DFHSM DATALOSS

2023-03-06 Thread Rob Schramm
Is CICS involved? Rob On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 13:41 Joel C. Ewing wrote: > I see two possibilities: > > Either IAM is somehow managing to update the file in a way that doesn't > end up with the changed bit set for the file -- might possibly happen if > the file is never properly closed by the

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Shaffer, Terri
And this doesn't begin to address the CPU MIPS required to even run thru the screens. When I IPL and z/OSMF starts it takes over the LPAR for a few minutes. When I logon and try to do anything its slow as molasses. Whereas in ISPF and ServerPAC dialogs I hardly ever left TSO PERIOD 1,

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
Ok. go to https://listserv.ua.edu/ , log in, email list ibm-main (not -archive), 2022-5-3 to 2022-7-1 search for 'z/osmf' a zIIP gives adequate performance, otherwise takes 90 minutes to start up, on z/OS 2.5.. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:16 PM Shaffer, Terri

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
MVS/SP V1 R3.8? I believe that was the last release that did not require XA or better. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
>When I worked at Chase bank, We had 117 LPARS and maintenance/clone was a 30 >minute task. So adding z/OSMF was never even brought up as a consideration. > >So while I understand the direction IBM is headed, its adding LOTS of layers >to something that sound not be hard. Running thru screens

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 7/03/2023 2:43 pm, Mike Schwab wrote: a zIIP gives adequate performance, otherwise takes 90 minutes to start up, on z/OS 2.5.. Not disagreeing with other criticisms of zOSMF, but IBM and ISVs need to get together and find an affordable way to get customers onto systems with a modern level

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
Did you increase the tasks to 300? Otherwise the tasks keep swapping in and out. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 7:40 PM Shaffer, Terri <017d5f778222-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > And this doesn't begin to address the CPU MIPS required to even run thru the > screens. > > When I IPL and

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Bill Johnson
I have to agree with this. Once I had my JCL created for just about any upgrade task, it was simple to make small changes to rerun the same process for the next upgrade. That goes for zOS, DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ, and most third party software. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 6,

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Not exactly sure what you mean by 300? But for example I never use or logon to z/OSMF and this is it usage since Oct last year, my last IPL Jobname REAL EXCP's CPU-TIME IZUSVR1 , 125T 0.00 0.00 0.00 87 0057 112642169 14774.64 Ms Terri

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Can you actually log onto ShopZ? I get the "welcome to ShopZ" and am able to >log in, but once logged in is when I get the page not found error. This morning I was able to log in. I did not try yesterday - despite having ticked off 2factor authentication, I still get the stupid emails for

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-06 Thread David Crayford
On 7/3/23 02:39, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: On 06.03.2023 02:43, David Crayford wrote: I'm sure your BSF4ooRexx is a really nice library. But it's moot point talking about it on this forum because ooRexx has not been ported to z/OS, I'm sorry to say that I think it probably never will be.

Re: zOSMF

2023-03-06 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Randy, I completely agree, This will be my 40th year working on z/OS and at least another 7 years to go. I find z/OSMF cumbersome. I prefer to do things close to the source. Not a tool to add layers of complexity and places to go wrong with yet more strange messages. I installed z/OS 2.5

ZFS File System Recall, Hanging OMVS

2023-03-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
This past weekend we experienced a somewhat unusual problem, with unexpected side effects. Wondering if anyone else has seen this before. We have an open case with IBM support too. - OMVS attempted to recall a migrated user zFS file system on a system where we're not running DFSMSHSM. - We

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Z15 EOM

2023-03-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
John, Naah, it'll be the "z16-mm" short for mini-me. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Z15 EOM Next is z2024-08, if it's GA in August 2024. On

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Pommier, Rex
Barbara, Can you actually log onto ShopZ? I get the "welcome to ShopZ" and am able to log in, but once logged in is when I get the page not found error. Rex From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: יום ב 06 מרץ 2023 10:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I opened an issue with IBM, and they said they're having a problem with shopz. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lopez, Sharon Sent: יום ב 06 מרץ 2023 15:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shopz It isn't working for me either. Is

Re: BookManager

2023-03-06 Thread Schmitt, Michael
If you had the original source of the documents, you could format to PostScript (DEV(PSA), then convert the PostScript to PDF using Adobe Acrobat or equivalent. You'd need to download the BookMaster fonts. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roger Bolan

Time of last Power On Reset

2023-03-06 Thread Jim Elliott
Is there a way to find on the HMC (or SE) the date and time of the last Power-On Reset of a system? Jim Elliott Senior IT Consultant - GlassHouse Systems Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Lopez, Sharon
It isn't working for me either. Is there a new address? Thanks. Sharon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 3:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shopz Thanks, For some reason, it isn't working for

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Schmutzok, Mike (US - Georgia)
Fails for me also. MIke -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lopez, Sharon Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 8:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shopz ⚠ EXTERNAL MESSAGE – Think Before You Click It isn't working for me either. Is there a

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential The "spare" ICF engine on the "A" box could be shared between *your* test/production sysplexes. HTH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Laurence Chiu Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 9:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Thanks, For some reason, it isn't working for me. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: יום ב 06 מרץ 2023 10:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shopz >Has anyone been able to access shopz since yesterday? >Has the address

Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I've been trying to access Shopz since yesterday, and keep getting a message that says: We're sorry! The page you're looking for may have been moved or deleted. Start a new search on ibm.com or visit one of the popular sites shown below. Has anyone been able to access shopz since yesterday?

Re: Shopz

2023-03-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Has anyone been able to access shopz since yesterday? >Has the address changed? I can get to ShopZ at this address https://www.ibm.com/software/shopzseries/ShopzSeries_public.wss. Regards, Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: BookManager

2023-03-06 Thread Colin Paice
I blogged Copying pages out of PDF files to make mini books. This uses pdftk package on Linux to extract pages from pdf - and appending pdf documents into a big document. On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 at 21:19, Seymour J Metz wrote: > AFAIK, IBM