Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Mike Schwab
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin
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> On 2016-12-01 13:29, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>> I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product 
>> that I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The 
>> advice I got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point 
>> to SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
>>
> There ought to be a NULLLIB, analogous to NULLFILE for such purposes.
> Think of the directory searches it would save!
>
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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-12-01 13:29, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product 
> that I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The 
> advice I got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point to 
> SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 
>  
There ought to be a NULLLIB, analogous to NULLFILE for such purposes.
Think of the directory searches it would save!

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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I had this problem some time ago with some optional part of an IBM product that 
I had chosen not to install but then got flak during PTF APPLY. The advice I 
got was that if no code would ever actually be needed, just point to 
SYS1.LINKLIB. If SMP/E ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 

.
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W dniu 2016-12-01 o 17:08, Tom Marchant pisze:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:
>
>> During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there 
>> is no SIBMCALL dddef.
>> This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
>> PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
>>
>> Any clue?
> Obvious answer: ask the vendor.
>
> CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation 
> (may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find 
> modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.
>
> Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?
>
> If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at 
> it and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that 
> they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for 
> SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.
>
> If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing 
> to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules 
> are needed.
>
>> 2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.
> Not a good idea.
>


The vendor is IBM. The PL/I is not a part or prerequsite of the product (SQL 
Performance Analyzer).
According to some suggestions I got off-list I defined SIBMCALL entry pointing 
to dummy load library.
APPLY CHECK ended with RC=0
APPLY ended with RC=4  and some GIM23913W in SMPOUT and some IEW2480W + 
IEW2482W in SMP000nn.

However I feel unhappy with such approach. Program Directory should explain 
scenario with no SIBMCALL in the system.




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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2016-12-01 o 17:08, Tom Marchant pisze:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:


During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is
no SIBMCALL dddef.
This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.

Any clue?

Obvious answer: ask the vendor.

CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation
(may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find
modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.

Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?

If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at it
and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that
they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for
SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.

If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing
to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules
are needed.


2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

Not a good idea.




The vendor is IBM. The PL/I is not a part or prerequsite of the product 
(SQL Performance Analyzer).
According to some suggestions I got off-list I defined SIBMCALL entry 
pointing to dummy load library.

APPLY CHECK ended with RC=0
APPLY ended with RC=4  and some GIM23913W in SMPOUT and some IEW2480W + 
IEW2482W in SMP000nn.


However I feel unhappy with such approach. Program Directory should 
explain scenario with no SIBMCALL in the system.





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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:23:21 +0100, R.S. wrote:

>During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is 
>no SIBMCALL dddef.
>This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
>PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
>
>Any clue?

Obvious answer: ask the vendor.

CALLLIBS is the way you tell SMP/E to provide a SYSLIB concatenation 
(may be just one library) to the binder. The binder will try to find 
modules there to resolve any unresolved external references.

Did the link edit fail, or was the link edit not done?

If the link edit step failed with unresolved references, I'd look at it 
and try to figure out where those modules reside. I'd expect that 
they are in some LE library, and that is the data set you need for 
SIBMCALL. You may need LILST and XREF to help you figure it out.

If the link edit step was skipped, include a DD for SIBMCALL pointing 
to an empty data set and look at the link to determine what modules 
are needed.

>2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

Not a good idea.

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Re: CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would think that in some part of this process it asked if you had PL/I.  If
you do not have it, then there should be some way to let the product know not to
include PL/I modules.


The product structure for PL/I has changed from the previous PL/I version. Most
JCL and CLISTs that link-edit a PL/I application using the OS PL/I library must
be changed. These changes include:

The OS PL/I multitasking library PLITASK has been replaced by SIBMTASK,
which is required to have multitasking support. SIBMTASK must be concatenated
before SCEELKED.

Note that Enterprise PL/I for z/OS does not currently support multitasking.
Language Environment continues to support PL/I multitasking for PL/I for MVS &
VM as well as previous, supported levels of the PL/I product.
The PLIBASE and SIBMBASE libraries have been replaced by:
SCEELKED, which contains resident routines that are linked with the
application and are used to resolve external references at link-edit time.
SIBMMATH, which contains the stubs for old OS PL/I V2R3 math library
routines. In link-edit steps, this library must precede SCEELKED if old math
results are desired in a particular executable program.
SIBMCALL, which is required to provide PLICALLA and PLICALLB
compatibility if PL/I for MVS & VM applications use OS PL/I PLICALLA or PLICALLB
as an entry point. SIBMCALL must be concatenated before SCEELKED.
SIBMCAL2, which is very similar to SIBMCALL, but is only used with
Enterprise PL/I for z/OS.

Note:
SCEELKED and SIBMCAL2 are the only libraries that apply for Enterprise PL/I
for z/OS.


If it is looking for SIBMCALL then it is probably going to want the PLICALLA and
PLICALLB modules.


Lizette


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> 
> During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is no
> SIBMCALL dddef.
> This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
> PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.
> 
> Any clue?
> 
> My wild ideas:
> 1. Define DDDEF entry for SIBMCALL and point to SYS1.LINKLIB or empty loadlib.
> 2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.
> 
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> Lodz, Poland
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CALLLIBS and non-existent library

2016-12-01 Thread R.S.
During SMP/E installation of some product APPLY fails because there is 
no SIBMCALL dddef.

This is part of PL/I which I don't have.
PL/I is not a prerequisite of the product.

Any clue?

My wild ideas:
1. Define DDDEF entry for SIBMCALL and point to SYS1.LINKLIB or empty 
loadlib.

2. Edit MCS to remove SIBMCALL from the list.

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