Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
John Eells wrote: I cannot speak for anyone else, but I have been on vacation the past two weeks and do not know the current state of affairs. I can try to find out what's happening with this later today if time allows and the people I'd need to ask about it are available. I'd missed Sue's response in the clutter of unread posts (sorry). Please ignore the one above! -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
David Staudacher wrote: The link you included has nothing to do with your post. I should have realized the link might resolve differently for anyone either not connected to Claus Mikkelsen, and/or not a member of his "Mainframe Support Tips" LinkedIn group. My fault. But Claus' post is quite germane, so I'll copy it here [emphasis mine]: "If you haven't noticed I can inform you IBM has CLOSED DOWN their good old and well functioning BookManager Site on the internet. This means that a lot of the links in my tips does not work anymore. I apologise for any inconvenience. Maybe I will fix this problem some day, but I will not make any promises". I posted a reply to him, requesting the source of information for his assertion that IBM had CLOSED DOWN Bookmanger internet access, and with a link to assurances given here that the outage is "unplanned", "unintentional", to "stay tuned" and that "work is under way to restore access to it as quickly as possible". I have yet to hear a reply, but am nonetheless unconvinced he doesn't have some kind of insider knowledge we lack. And that the lack of any further assurances from John, Scott or Susan on the matter also has me very concerned. Claus isn't the only one with hundreds of published links to pages on the Bookmanager site which no longer work and will never work again unless access is restored. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I have been on vacation the past two weeks and do not know the current state of affairs. I can try to find out what's happening with this later today if time allows and the people I'd need to ask about it are available. -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
Thanks for the update. Just wondering what their DR plan is? For all the 'wild eyed pistol wavers' thanks to Ibm-main for keeping us in the know. In a message dated 9/5/2018 4:07:58 PM Central Standard Time, chale...@us.ibm.com writes: the plan is still to get it back up and running as soon as possible, with "as soon as possible" occurring within the next few weeks or hopefully even few days. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi all, I just received another update on this issue with the hosted Library Server (BookManager site). I can assure you that Claus doesn't have any special insider knowledge - the site wasn't 'CLOSED DOWN' and its temporary offline status was indeed not planned. Nothing has changed - the plan is still to get it back up and running as soon as possible, with "as soon as possible" occurring within the next few weeks or hopefully even few days. For those of you who need to access older z/OS content in the meantime, keep checking https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives as Geoff Smith continues to add alternative formats. (Feel free to quote any of this in Claus' LinkedIn group, of which I'm not a member.) -Sue Shumway On 9/4/2018 2:42 PM, David Staudacher wrote: The link you included has nothing to do with your post. I should have realized the link might resolve differently for anyone either not connected to Claus Mikkelsen, and/or not a member of his "Mainframe Support Tips" LinkedIn group. My fault. But Claus' post is quite germane, so I'll copy it here [emphasis mine]: "If you haven't noticed I can inform you IBM has CLOSED DOWN their good old and well functioning BookManager Site on the internet. This means that a lot of the links in my tips does not work anymore. I apologise for any inconvenience. Maybe I will fix this problem some day, but I will not make any promises". I posted a reply to him, requesting the source of information for his assertion that IBM had CLOSED DOWN Bookmanger internet access, and with a link to assurances given here that the outage is "unplanned", "unintentional", to "stay tuned" and that "work is under way to restore access to it as quickly as possible". I have yet to hear a reply, but am nonetheless unconvinced he doesn't have some kind of insider knowledge we lack. And that the lack of any further assurances from John, Scott or Susan on the matter also has me very concerned. Claus isn't the only one with hundreds of published links to pages on the Bookmanager site which no longer work and will never work again unless access is restored. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Sue Shumway z/OS Product Documentation Lead IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
> The link you included has nothing to do with your post. I should have realized the link might resolve differently for anyone either not connected to Claus Mikkelsen, and/or not a member of his "Mainframe Support Tips" LinkedIn group. My fault. But Claus' post is quite germane, so I'll copy it here [emphasis mine]: "If you haven't noticed I can inform you IBM has CLOSED DOWN their good old and well functioning BookManager Site on the internet. This means that a lot of the links in my tips does not work anymore. I apologise for any inconvenience. Maybe I will fix this problem some day, but I will not make any promises". I posted a reply to him, requesting the source of information for his assertion that IBM had CLOSED DOWN Bookmanger internet access, and with a link to assurances given here that the outage is "unplanned", "unintentional", to "stay tuned" and that "work is under way to restore access to it as quickly as possible". I have yet to hear a reply, but am nonetheless unconvinced he doesn't have some kind of insider knowledge we lack. And that the lack of any further assurances from John, Scott or Susan on the matter also has me very concerned. Claus isn't the only one with hundreds of published links to pages on the Bookmanager site which no longer work and will never work again unless access is restored. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 07:15:38 -0500, David Staudacher wrote: >Word is now going around The link that you included has nothing to do with your post. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Word is now going around that IBM has "closed down" BookManager Internet access: http://linkedin.com/in/claus-mikkelsen-2637016/detail/recent-activity Is this true? If so, I'm *very* surprised three IBM employees would tell us the outage is "unplanned", "unintentional", that "work is under way to restore access to it as quickly as possible", to "stay tuned", etc, then just go silent about it to have us ultimately learn by rumor and wild guesses that these assurances were false. If in fact IBM *does* intend to restore access, it would be a gesture of good will if someone who *knows* the truth could add a comment on LinkedIn using the discussion link above and let us know. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it? If they only open sourced BM/READ? Probably not. If they open sourced the whole suite from DCF through BM/READ? Probably yes. > On what variety of platforms? Well, a Linux port would be 99% of the way to *bsd and Unix ports? Windoze you probably only need to worry about 64 bit. > They'd need also to open source the content. I doubt it. > Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie. What > refracturing (sic) would be necessary to extend that capacity? You'd probably need to support a legacy format and an enhanced format, with most of the code common to both. > Long ago, we compared prices If they open sourced it then there would be no price. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:02 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager >> format be returned to service :) > >Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it >for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely >others would take it and run with it. > Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it? On what variety of platforms? PDF and HTML readers, in contrast, seem to support themselves. They'd need also to open source the content. Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie. What refracturing would be necessary to extend that capacity? I suspect IBM investigated and shied away. It's irritating to find a manual split, like Assembler Services, at an arbitrary point in the alphabet merely to conform to processor capacity. Long ago, we compared prices of Bookie reader for Solaris(?), XA(?), PC. The difference exceeded the cost of the PC. Easy business decision. --gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
I avoid the Knowledge base. Last time I was there, it was really poor for sequential reading > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Edward Finnell > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:31 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? > > Think Ed Jaffe mentioned they are bringing back lookat under new wrappers > in knowledge base. > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www- > 2D01.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_lookatkc- > 3FOpenDocument=DwIFaQ=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8Ldrrv > xQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w=vjzQKBznNqcKo3dRlFo7y022d9H > cy8kYuF6irKI8DJ8=ltaXJi_o_DesKItfkJLPuss5CnzFx__LTY8s4T0oOoE= > > Unfortunately, I can't make it find idc3009I rc xx for anything. In a message > dated 8/16/2018 5:07:29 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu > writes: > > > Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the > search on into bookie and took you right to it. > > > And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Think Ed Jaffe mentioned they are bringing back lookat under new wrappers in knowledge base. https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/lookatkc?OpenDocument Unfortunately, I can't make it find idc3009I rc xx for anything. In a message dated 8/16/2018 5:07:29 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu writes: Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the search on into bookie and took you right to it. And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Using the PoP, with its two column format as a single example of "bookie" can't be useful is just wrong. Bookmanager format was (is) very good for searching, and for reading parts sequentially. Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the search on into bookie and took you right to it. And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:02 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> > >> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have > >> Bookmanager format be returned to service :) > > > >Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it > >for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely > >others would take it and run with it. > > > Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it? On what > variety of platforms? PDF and HTML readers, in contrast, seem to support > themselves. > > They'd need also to open source the content. > > Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie. What > refracturing would be necessary to extend that capacity? I suspect IBM > investigated and shied away. > > It's irritating to find a manual split, like Assembler Services, at an > arbitrary > point in the alphabet merely to conform to processor capacity. > > Long ago, we compared prices of Bookie reader for Solaris(?), XA(?), PC. The > difference exceeded the cost of the PC. Easy business decision. > > --gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:02 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager >> format be returned to service :) > >Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it >for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely >others would take it and run with it. > Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it? On what variety of platforms? PDF and HTML readers, in contrast, seem to support themselves. They'd need also to open source the content. Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie. What refracturing would be necessary to extend that capacity? I suspect IBM investigated and shied away. It's irritating to find a manual split, like Assembler Services, at an arbitrary point in the alphabet merely to conform to processor capacity. Long ago, we compared prices of Bookie reader for Solaris(?), XA(?), PC. The difference exceeded the cost of the PC. Easy business decision. --gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I would be happy if it came back I meant to say (db2?) Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? On 16 August 2018 at 16:48, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for > one) What IBM product that uses Bookmanager format are you a Happy Customer of? I had understood that Bookie format had been deprecated entirely. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries comply with applicable Federal civil rights laws and do not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, disability or sex. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries do not exclude people or treat them differently because of race, color, national origin, age, disability or sex. English: ATTENTION: If you do not speak English, language assistance services, free of charge, are available to you. Call 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Español (Spanish): ATENCIÓN: Si habla español, tiene a su disposición servicios gratuitos de asistencia lingüística. Llame al 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 繁體中文(Chinese)：注意：如果您使用繁體中文，您可以免費獲得語言援助 服務。請致電 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)。 Kreyòl Ayisyen (Haitian Creole): ATANSION: Si w pale Kreyòl Ayisyen, gen sèvis èd pou lang ki disponib gratis pou ou. Rele 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Polski (Polish): UWAGA: Jeżeli mówisz po polsku, możesz skorzystać z bezpłatnej pomocy językowej. Zadzwoń pod numer 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 한국어 (Korean): 주의: 한국어를 사용하시는 경우, 언어 지원 서비스를 무료로 이용하실 수 있습니다. 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)번으로 전화해 주십시오. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 16 August 2018 at 16:48, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for one) What IBM product that uses Bookmanager format are you a Happy Customer of? I had understood that Bookie format had been deprecated entirely. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for one) Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? On 16 August 2018 at 16:06, Gibney, Dave wrote: > I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the > manuals. And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader > > And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager > format be returned to service :) Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely others would take it and run with it. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries comply with applicable Federal civil rights laws and do not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, disability or sex. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries do not exclude people or treat them differently because of race, color, national origin, age, disability or sex. English: ATTENTION: If you do not speak English, language assistance services, free of charge, are available to you. Call 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Español (Spanish): ATENCIÓN: Si habla español, tiene a su disposición servicios gratuitos de asistencia lingüística. Llame al 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 繁體中文(Chinese)：注意：如果您使用繁體中文，您可以免費獲得語言援助 服務。請致電 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)。 Kreyòl Ayisyen (Haitian Creole): ATANSION: Si w pale Kreyòl Ayisyen, gen sèvis èd pou lang ki disponib gratis pou ou. Rele 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Polski (Polish): UWAGA: Jeżeli mówisz po polsku, możesz skorzystać z bezpłatnej pomocy językowej. Zadzwoń pod numer 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 한국어 (Korean): 주의: 한국어를 사용하시는 경우, 언어 지원 서비스를 무료로 이용하실 수 있습니다. 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)번으로 전화해 주십시오. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 16 August 2018 at 16:06, Gibney, Dave wrote: > I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the manuals. > And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader > > And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager format > be returned to service :) Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely others would take it and run with it. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the manuals. And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager format be returned to service :) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Susan Shumway > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:36 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? > > Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories for > the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make available > Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases (thanks, Geoff > Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet Library Archive page for > links to all of the information: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zos- > 2Dlibrary- > 2Darchives=DwIFaQ=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3- > vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=pcfbr_OjAUjcgo- > njoH7KxsvuKUIhVCVi4NGvTgeqp4= > > Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of any of > these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as soon as > they're available), as long-term replacements of the served Library Server > content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes sense to move to > more current content retrieval methods if possible. > Thanks in advance! > > -Sue Shumway > > > On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. > > The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the > > content that is linked from > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_serve > > rs_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zos-2Dlibrary- > 2Darchives=DwIFaQ > > =C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w& > > m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=pcfbr_OjAUjcgo- > njoH7Kx > > svuKUIhVCVi4NGvTgeqp4= , encountered a problem and went down. So, > > all links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to > > investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll > > keep you posted. > > > > The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you > > just need to use a different method to access it: > > 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of > > whatever content you need. See > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo > > rt_docview.wss-3Fuid- > 3Dswg24000640=DwIFaQ=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk > > 4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3 > > -vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=rqObtIzgsvSSdguTEP2- > txQn3s0wa42BKhq5loJNh0w= > > to download Softcopy Librarian and > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo > > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW- > 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1_toc.htm=D > > wIFaQ=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo > > 5sWE9w=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3- > vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=osP0wrwiBpHsQ2g > > 18DS6YX5YAEG39urNrA1CySiVBs0= > > for more information about it. > > 2. View the content using one of two methods: > > --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you > > can use it to host the content locally. See > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo > > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW- > 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks_bks.htm=DwIFa > > Q=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE > > 9w=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3- > vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=XCzCw3mz52a_9qlkIo0 > > kAFNtJM0ZjCj3r4KBO7p3scU= for more information about Library > Server. > > --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate > > tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader > > for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo > > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW- > 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02_toc.htm=D > > wIFaQ=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo > > 5sWE9w=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3- > vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE=z9bd6PGb-34sCaM > > SULbTkObEPx5AVMy-ApfDIYFrZ8U= for more information about > Softcopy > > Reader. > > > > -Sue Shumway > > > > On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: > >> On We
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
While I have some sympathy for wanting new content to be delivered in whatever way is easiest and/or most maintainable, I just can't agree that dropping the old web pages has any benefit. So now, instead of clicking on a book and seeing the content, I have to download a pdf or a boo file? Why would I? Almost all of my z/OS bookmarks are now dead. I guess that's one way to force us to use the knowledgecenter. In article you wrote: > Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories > for the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make > available Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases > (thanks, Geoff Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet > Library Archive page for links to all of the information: > https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives > Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of > any of these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as > soon as they're available), as long-term replacements of the served > Library Server content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes > sense to move to more current content retrieval methods if possible. > Thanks in advance! > -Sue Shumway > On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. > > The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the > > content that is linked from > > https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives > > > > , encountered a problem and went down. So, all links to those domains > > won't work. The involved teams continue to investigate solutions, but > > there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll keep you posted. > > > > The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you > > just need to use a different method to access it: > > 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of > > whatever content you need. See > > https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 to download > > Softcopy Librarian and > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1/toc.htm > > > > for more information about it. > > 2. View the content using one of two methods: > > --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you > > can use it to host the content locally. See > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks/bks.htm > > > > for more information about Library Server. > > --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate > > tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader for > > BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02/toc.htm > > > > for more information about Softcopy Reader. > > > > -Sue Shumway > > > > On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops > >>> running unsupported HW and SW. > >>> As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only > >>> existed in > >>> BKM format (there were no PDF's available). > >>> > >>> How are those people going to get the necessary information? > >>> > >> > >> good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!) > >> with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS > >> Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion > >> September 2008". > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > >>> Of Don Poitras > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >>> Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? > >>> > >>> In article < > >>> caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you > >>> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know > >&g
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
Thanks Sue, John, et. al. for the prompt response. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Susan Shumway Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories for the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make available Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases (thanks, Geoff Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet Library Archive page for links to all of the information: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636700449949520163sdata=sJV%2FLZrkJZOs%2F9PDiQzIFWvctst7b1NUj659wy7Yn%2Fs%3Dreserved=0 Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of any of these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as soon as they're available), as long-term replacements of the served Library Server content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes sense to move to more current content retrieval methods if possible. Thanks in advance! -Sue Shumway On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote: > Hi all, > > I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. > The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the > content that is linked from > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww > .ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library > -archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e > 48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6367004 > 49949520163sdata=sJV%2FLZrkJZOs%2F9PDiQzIFWvctst7b1NUj659wy7Yn%2F > s%3Dreserved=0 , encountered a problem and went down. So, all > links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to > investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll > keep you posted. > > The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you > just need to use a different method to access it: > 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of > whatever content you need. See > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww > .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocview.wss%3Fuid%3Dswg24000640data=02%7C01% > 7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de73 > 7c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636700449949520163sdata=WhbJP > kH%2BQ9%2Fu8kcCEWWccdPCZRSlnzyfbjJGouqrCCU%3Dreserved=0 to > download Softcopy Librarian and > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww > .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3 > .ebrscl1%2Ftoc.htmdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a > 7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0% > 7C636700449949520163sdata=oOAZQjwi%2BnpGnpMeFBCbD%2FrrRa8hDCmz5aB > EOB9pAuc%3Dreserved=0 > for more information about it. > 2. View the content using one of two methods: > --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you > can use it to host the content locally. See > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww > .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3 > .bks%2Fbks.htmdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0 > a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C63 > 6700449949520163sdata=QYbueTY0OoSltWnmC1WomlP8hMrdob85XEIPxjPVbSs > %3Dreserved=0 for more information about Library Server. > --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate > tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader > for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww > .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3 > .ab0in02%2Ftoc.htmdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a > 7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0% > 7C636700449949530172sdata=LG5u%2B1PR0Bd7kJQnVybK07Hlu9lZEH8tFDn0N > 2QjkE0%3Dreserved=0 for more information about Softcopy Reader. > > -Sue Shumway > > On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller >> wrote: >> >>> On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops >>> running unsupported HW and SW. >>> As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only >>> existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available). >>> &
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
You're welcome, David! Please see my most recent post and let me know if you still can't take advantage of any of the newly provided options. Teams continue to work to make the served Library Server available, but its time might be short. -Sue Shumway On 8/15/2018 5:52 PM, David Staudacher wrote: Thanks for the update Sue! I realize the Library Server docs pertain to no-longer-supported releases, but I still use them quite often in cases where essential content hasn't changed. In such cases, I also prefer them in web-posting and email to reference a specific page in a given doc since they also have much shorter native URLs than the Knowledge Center versions. I look forward to hearing when the service is restored as Library Server is my only means of access here at work, where we are not allowed to self-install any software on our company workstations. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Sue Shumway z/OS Product Documentation Lead IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories for the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make available Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases (thanks, Geoff Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet Library Archive page for links to all of the information: https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of any of these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as soon as they're available), as long-term replacements of the served Library Server content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes sense to move to more current content retrieval methods if possible. Thanks in advance! -Sue Shumway On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote: Hi all, I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the content that is linked from https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives , encountered a problem and went down. So, all links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll keep you posted. The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you just need to use a different method to access it: 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of whatever content you need. See https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 to download Softcopy Librarian and https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1/toc.htm for more information about it. 2. View the content using one of two methods: --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you can use it to host the content locally. See https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks/bks.htm for more information about Library Server. --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02/toc.htm for more information about Softcopy Reader. -Sue Shumway On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller wrote: On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops running unsupported HW and SW. As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available). How are those people going to get the necessary information? good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!) with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion September 2008". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Don Poitras Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? In article < caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher wrote: Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this server". This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library- archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645 7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366 99371056784819sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A %3Dreserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 a.m. US Central). -- Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet Maranatha! <>< John McKown FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still get "Forbidden". -- Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637 Cary, NC 27513 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
Thanks for the update Sue! I realize the Library Server docs pertain to no-longer-supported releases, but I still use them quite often in cases where essential content hasn't changed. In such cases, I also prefer them in web-posting and email to reference a specific page in a given doc since they also have much shorter native URLs than the Knowledge Center versions. I look forward to hearing when the service is restored as Library Server is my only means of access here at work, where we are not allowed to self-install any software on our company workstations. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
Hi all, I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the content that is linked from https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives , encountered a problem and went down. So, all links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll keep you posted. The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you just need to use a different method to access it: 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of whatever content you need. See https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 to download Softcopy Librarian and https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1/toc.htm for more information about it. 2. View the content using one of two methods: --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you can use it to host the content locally. See https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks/bks.htm for more information about Library Server. --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02/toc.htm for more information about Softcopy Reader. -Sue Shumway On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller wrote: On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops running unsupported HW and SW. As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available). How are those people going to get the necessary information? good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!) with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion September 2008". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Don Poitras Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? In article < caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher wrote: Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this server". This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library- archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645 7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366 99371056784819sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A %3Dreserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 a.m. US Central). -- Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet Maranatha! <>< John McKown FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still get "Forbidden". -- Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this messa
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
As John eluded to, there was an issue with the publibz server that is being worked on...stay tuned. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
I'm told that this was an unplanned event due to a reason that I believe to be sound, but which I am afraid I cannot share. The timing and appearance of this problem are indeed unfortunate, coming as it does hard on the heels of other disruptions, but I am assured that we had *no* intent to remove access to this information and that work is under way to restore access to it as quickly as possible. David Staudacher wrote: Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this server". This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: http://ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Well, I started a wikipedia article on DFP and it went away on the grounds that it was not notable. So maybe IBM has been talking to wiki? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:41:29 -0500, John McKown wrote: >> > > >> http://secure-web.cisco.com/11fsXf8g3xHq_7VrEwaydTpETtUhTLZwb5njf7f7jOBHFfPwsW9_gzGwfWme-NcV98RZokZoATKMxKUBy8sB-UgYydVjftH-WgZnRv7bK1Lo_upe1WgPXtwCKOZWDy3qiaSLssJQr0JZUN_Xgp9hUv2kYNX7Lu4FCRYsrnO_bz4I_wVzjECRzv39YwcJ5fm8XNNMOZuIpS0j4WgaTcU7jYOXyH-gsqn6pSXSd51O74mnjRQ1WC-T20Ju81feA4GiW29jYebB3u-hexgcQCJuQlr5mNv3U5kbauBNDKAEkReAKXrT6cGwzygpm4FyCvg7NX0nkbUPsU3ytW9LS8sgZn-qigXeuZMR6nR_UgCEVt7ePo2HjC9kyutT2M-HmR8pCAuoznt4NFx6DWgnXlIsXMgsYWanLD1hlUPAc65pq5-RN8735rnQK0Nl6ZBDA1PZH/http%3A%2F%2Fibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-archives >> > > Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? >> > > >> > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 >> > a.m. US Central). >> >> FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still >> get "Forbidden". >> Grrr... And at page: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1JcRYBnVcYnjYXN5ZWsUrm8Sf4gwYds_uRp6Dv9eZFx6-60c-lPr7iAPZP0bkxZU4H8Lzvy4ETLGtewvqzEzCwNdIPXy14N0guvXD2PoJ7hm3cRPaX3UD3PEkxNo15t-zkF9Q4iboqq79VPjc1gNN3RNf8BKvzFGqW9OlVI0X7Ug8rD4eIiGz4F4DIjPa0XHbWbCA6zPLrYIi1xdyNdPwSK4n1ivPBbTFuHOjf4l-7LFBHcbJis57yQMRXrh6TTzoAq1g4OYIQmNZ4vUGJmp7rG_5iFF1AS39yIe3jeYZ-jurARr-y0XcKV4QRY7jFG9jg_H7hV5TkQssDaY7fT0WVWS_5REWEmxuKqMmCkJGYyNoG8tWCzmt27kf3KArTQff8kJVF0kfde0uXj2djF0YOchxaEnoOktN98cG01AzynBZb4sKyb_kSqoNLRJsH6gJ/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.1.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1%2Fen%2Fhomepage.html under "More Topics" on the right, I see a link to: z/OS DFSMS. If I "Change Verson" to 2.3.0, I see no such link. Is IBM trying to tell us that DFSMS has gone away in 2.3? And it's *w*a*a*y*y* slow! Is it too much Javascript or too much GDPR? And they've somehow stolen the "Find in Page" facility. It seems to succeed finding "DFSMS", but does not focus or highlight the string. (on: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1b97vzt0IXbAULyLUS_BCUrPHoZV9WchmvBI5WRyel7_5RtcDeXJRzNT-bJbdMQBBFIv5F8DHBfuxuGwbicaRLrTkmydXEnEulq0Y4jBUe5xJefTTc18GblXxenzRTcsP8NkG4otKQGhKR91QmHFBMroVVIJyfXyxpyE8GG9LRVnGVoLDV4ah9PSPk_OwyXXGyCVSNykkzFOGzVfeX5j4Ksh6rz7ouxT2vxG8gyAKasiY0QoCSH-BC1gbf2DNC3hiSJvdxtAGkuw_hYQoqh1N3obhb4l3xWzfvAH-iJgGzCs1DLB8CCxli4Ug6ubW8OdzAqDLt0rI2ZQcYrtwV8LlzUF3dSngKc6FHhBTYwzA6x0FSToF0xUzaU2whcyOTV8IZVhow82tscsOQK_i4lUlU6wlozuIOymHN3xsfEpyt3eRF-HqKbDwkjxotEGLPIya/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3%2Fen%2Fhomepage.html ) If they ever get it working, they're bound to change it. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:41:29 -0500, John McKown wrote: >> > > >> http://ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives >> > > Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? >> > > >> > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 >> > a.m. US Central). >> >> FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still >> get "Forbidden". >> Grrr... And at page: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1/en/homepage.html under "More Topics" on the right, I see a link to: z/OS DFSMS. If I "Change Verson" to 2.3.0, I see no such link. Is IBM trying to tell us that DFSMS has gone away in 2.3? And it's *w*a*a*y*y* slow! Is it too much Javascript or too much GDPR? And they've somehow stolen the "Find in Page" facility. It seems to succeed finding "DFSMS", but does not focus or highlight the string. (on: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3/en/homepage.html ) If they ever get it working, they're bound to change it. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I have PDFs going back to V1R4. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops running unsupported HW and SW. As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available). How are those people going to get the necessary information? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I still keep a full set of z/OS 1.13 bookmanager books on dasd that I occasionally use with TSO Bookmanager Read, just because I'm used to using it, and it's quick to search. We don't typically exploit anything new, so for most of what I'm searching for, the 1.13 books are perfectly accurate. Dana On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 13:41:25 +, Allan Staller wrote: >On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops running >unsupported HW and SW. >As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in BKM >format (there were no PDF's available). > >How are those people going to get the necessary information? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Weelll... that's kinda what "unsupported" means. IMHO, the so-called PFCSKs are getting a bad rap. Management controls what a company does, not programmers. sas On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller > wrote: > > > On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops > > running unsupported HW and SW. > > As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in > > BKM format (there were no PDF's available). > > > > How are those people going to get the necessary information? > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller wrote: > On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops > running unsupported HW and SW. > As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in > BKM format (there were no PDF's available). > > How are those people going to get the necessary information? > good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!) with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion September 2008". > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Don Poitras > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? > > In article < > caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher > > > > wrote: > > > > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know > > > of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) > respond with: > > > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on > > > this server". > > > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given > here: > > > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib > > > m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library- > > > archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645 > > > 7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366 > > > 99371056784819sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A > > > %3Dreserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server > > > was going away? > > > > > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC > > (7:09 a.m. US Central). > > -- > > Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet > > Maranatha! <>< John McKown > > FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still get > "Forbidden". > > > -- > Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive > sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ::DISCLAIMER:: > > -- > The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and > intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not > guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, > corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain > viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without > referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator > or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this > email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the > views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, > dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or > publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized > representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before > opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and > other defects. > > -- > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops running unsupported HW and SW. As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available). How are those people going to get the necessary information? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Don Poitras Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? In article you wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher > > wrote: > > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know > > of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond > > with: > > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on > > this server". > > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: > > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib > > m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library- > > archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645 > > 7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366 > > 99371056784819sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A > > %3Dreserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server > > was going away? > > > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC > (7:09 a.m. US Central). > -- > Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet > Maranatha! <>< John McKown FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still get "Forbidden". -- Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:38 AM Don Poitras wrote: > In article < > caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher > > > wrote: > > > > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of > > > (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond > with: > > > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this > > > server". > > > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given > here: > > > > http://ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives > > > Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? > > > > > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 > > a.m. US Central). > > -- > > Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet > > Maranatha! <>< > > John McKown > > FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still > get "Forbidden". > Ah, I did not understand and did not try to "drill down". I just did and you are correct. Either IBM has decided to decommission this function and forgot to remove all the traces, or the permissions on the files have the wrong permissions. Or they just don't really give a about z/OS anymore. Much like my upper management. > > > -- > Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive > sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513 > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In article you wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher > wrote: > > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of > > (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: > > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this > > server". > > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: > > http://ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives > > Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? > > > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 > a.m. US Central). > -- > Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you still get "Forbidden". -- Don Poitras - SAS Development - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive sas...@sas.com (919) 531-5637Cary, NC 27513 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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PFCSK's Strike Again! Film at 11:00 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Staudacher Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"? Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this server". This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-archivesdata=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C847c06f35f864656bfaf08d60234c2a5%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C1%7C636698822995848594sdata=tqsev8IjS1tsDwQzkWv%2B6pc%2FCttXfZkMaUK1FwYDQrA%3Dreserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher wrote: > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know of > (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc) respond with: > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access on this > server". > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given here: > http://ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives > Did I miss an announcement that Library Server was going away? > Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC (7:09 a.m. US Central). -- Between infinite and short there is a big difference. -- G.H. Gonnet Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
