Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Brian Fraser
t; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf >> Of retired mainframer >> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:12 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: HSM question >> >> Look at the VERSIONS operand of the SETSYS command and the ALTERDS command

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Brian Fraser
11:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question > > Look at the VERSIONS operand of the SETSYS command and the ALTERDS command > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi > > Sent: Wedne

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question Thanks In the Management Class there are to more options I would like to set: How many backup versions of a deleted dataset are kept. How long

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question Look at the VERSIONS operand of the SETSYS command and the ALTERDS command > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behal

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread retired mainframer
Look at the VERSIONS operand of the SETSYS command and the ALTERDS command > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:15 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question &g

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
OK, So how do I tell HSM to keep more than one backup version? Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question MGMTCLAS won't matter for Non-SMS

Re: HSM question

2019-09-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
MGMTCLAS won't matter for Non-SMS datasets > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: HSM question > > Hi, > I wanted to restore a PDS backed up by HSM. >

Re: [External] Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-19 Thread Pommier, Rex
] Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1 Rex, There are 2 places HSM records the DUPLEX volser 1 in the MCV record while the Primary volume is still a partial tape and then in the TTOC record. The DUPLEX tape would be displayed in the LIST TTOC output if the Primary volume still

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-15 Thread Max Smith
Rex, There are 2 places HSM records the DUPLEX volser 1 in the MCV record while the Primary volume is still a partial tape and then in the TTOC record. The DUPLEX tape would be displayed in the LIST TTOC output if the Primary volume still existed. If it doesn't show in the LIST TTOC output

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-15 Thread Allan Staller
, February 14, 2019 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1 I get "entry not defined". Unfortunately that doesn't help, because on my playground I have duplex tapes with their primary ML2 tape still existent, and I ge

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Allan Staller Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1 Try HSEND DELVOL(XX) PURGE FORCE(?) I haven't looked up the syntax. Actually, if they are not in the TTOC you can probably just expire th

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Allan Staller
associated) the volume would not go scratch until replaced. Don't remember the exact details. Al -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
try the TAPEREPL process in a test environment to see what happens. Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes

Re: HSM question - ML2 copy2 tapes that have no copy1

2019-02-14 Thread Allan Staller
Most likely a continuation of a prior volume. Without going into a lot of detail, if a dataset spans from 1 volume to another the 1st volume in the sequence "owns it". Duplex volumes are never referenced by DFHSM directly. HSEND LIST TTOC will list all primary voulmes. I expect the duplex

Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble

2019-02-13 Thread Allan Staller
13, 2019 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble Two recommendations below > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:03 AM &g

Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble

2019-02-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
Thanks. Tony Thigpen Allan Staller wrote on 2/13/19 10:02 AM: For each affected volser: HSEND LIST TTOC(volser) ODS(x) HDEL 'datasetname' for each indicated dataset. HSEND RECYCLE ALL EXECUTE PERCENTVALID(0) HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble

2019-02-13 Thread retired mainframer
Two recommendations below > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Allan Staller > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:03 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble > >

Re: HSM question - ML2 tapes no longer avaialble

2019-02-13 Thread Allan Staller
For each affected volser: HSEND LIST TTOC(volser) ODS(x) HDEL 'datasetname' for each indicated dataset. HSEND RECYCLE ALL EXECUTE PERCENTVALID(0) HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:00 AM

Re: HSM question

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Beaver
Do the del/def. populate it then issue a HMIG Sent from my iPhone Sorry for any grammar problems > On Sep 22, 2017, at 16:28, Lizette Koehler wrote: > > Is there a way for your to create a VSAM dataset with Data and Index component > and then migrate it to see what

Re: HSM question

2017-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is there a way for your to create a VSAM dataset with Data and Index component and then migrate it to see what it looks like? That might help answer your questions. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of

Re: HSM question

2017-09-22 Thread Burrell, Todd
All three should show MIGRAT and all three will still show up as they are all in the catalog. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: HSM question

2016-11-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
r 24, 2016 2:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question > > That's what I thought, but it does not seem to be working. So, I figured I was > misreading or doing something wrong. > > Tony Thigpen > > retired mainframer wrote on 11/24/2016 04:42 PM

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Richard Marchant
>> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:30 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: HSM question >> >> The elapsed time is 10 minutes. >> >> Before we get off-track too much, the end result we are looking for is: >> We want the

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question The elapsed time is 10 minutes. Before we get off-track too much, the end result we are looking for is: We want the HSM backup

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread retired mainframer
Doesn't SETSYS PARTIALTAPE(BAKCUP(MARKFULL)) do what you want? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM question The elapsed

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
The elapsed time is 10 minutes. Before we get off-track too much, the end result we are looking for is: We want the HSM backup process to *always* use a scratch tape. We never want it to ask for an existing tape to append to. We will recycle the tapes to combine them at our convenience. But,

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
and allow it to move on to the next task. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM questi

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question > > Tony Thigpen wrote: > > >The remote operator is a human. > >Tape management system is CA1 > >Still res

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tony Thigpen wrote: >The remote operator is a human. >Tape management system is CA1 >Still researching logs. Thanks. I see that output and logs you gave to Lizette. I see you have MOUNT WAIT TIME=010 MINUTE(S), but what are the [elapsed] times for these messages and reply? *IEC501A M

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tony Thigpen > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:33 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HSM question > > Answers: > 1) OS/390 2.10 > > 2) output from Q SETSYS: > > QUERY SETSYS COMMAND STARTING ON HOST=1 &g

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
Elardus, The remote operator is a human. Tape management system is CA1 Still researching logs. Tony Thigpen Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 11/23/2016 02:04 AM: Tony Thigpen wrote: Once a week, HSM performs an AUTOBACKUP. Until about 3 months ago, if nobody was at the shop, HSM would ask for

Re: HSM question

2016-11-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
Answers: 1) OS/390 2.10 2) output from Q SETSYS: QUERY SETSYS COMMAND STARTING ON HOST=1 BUDENSITY=*, BUUNIT=TAPE90, BU RECYCLE 609 (CONT.) PERCENTAGE=033%, MOUNT WAIT TIME=010 MINUTE(S), (CONT.) TAPESPANSIZE(0100) SELECTVOLUME=SCRATCH, 610 (CONT.) TAPEDELETION=SCRATCHTAPE,

Re: HSM question

2016-11-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tony Thigpen wrote: >Once a week, HSM performs an AUTOBACKUP. Until about 3 months ago, if nobody >was at the shop, HSM would ask for an exiting tape, wait 10 minutes, and if no >tape was mounted, it would ask "Can tape be mounted?". If our remote operator >replied 'N', then HSM would us a

Re: HSM question

2016-11-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
So some basic questions 1) What version of z/OS? 2) If you do a F dfhsmtaskname,Q SETSYS does it show the same info as the ARCCMDxx member? 3) What is the specific messages you are seeing during autobackup? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: HSM QUESTION

2016-03-14 Thread Glenn Wilcock
You are correct. 'PREPARE' only creates an ABR record. No verification or data movement occurs. Glenn Wilcock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the