Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Edward Finnell]

Can't argue with a zedlot-but this ol' horse is getting pretty odiferous.  
Can we move? Puleeze
 
 
In a message dated 9/25/2016 9:24:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t...@harminc.net writes:

"How do  you spell ZED?"


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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Tony Harminc]

On 25 September 2016 at 16:40, Bill Woodger  wrote:
> The *letter* is pronounced "zed". The sound of the letter is zzz. Zoo, Zorro, 
> zero.

"How do you spell ZEE?"

"ZED EEE EEE".

"How do you spell ZED?"

"ZEE EEE DEE".

Tony H.

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Richard Pinion]

I see said the blind man to the deaf lady.



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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:40:26 -0500

The *letter* is pronounced "zed". The sound of the letter is zzz. Zoo, Zorro, 
zero. 

For even older UK TV, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Cars

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:15:02 -0500, Richard Pinion <rpin...@netscape.com> wrote:

>I've been watching old episodes of the British TV program UFO by Gerry and 
>Sylvia Anderson.  Lots of count downs 10,9...1,0.
>Not one single zed, always zero as in hero with a z.  That's my observation of 
>the day.
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Bill Woodger]

The *letter* is pronounced "zed". The sound of the letter is zzz. Zoo, Zorro, 
zero. 

For even older UK TV, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Cars

On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:15:02 -0500, Richard Pinion  wrote:

>I've been watching old episodes of the British TV program UFO by Gerry and 
>Sylvia Anderson.  Lots of count downs 10,9...1,0.
>Not one single zed, always zero as in hero with a z.  That's my observation of 
>the day.
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Richard Pinion]

I've been watching old episodes of the British TV program UFO by Gerry and 
Sylvia Anderson.  Lots of count downs 10,9...1,0.
Not one single zed, always zero as in hero with a z.  That's my observation of 
the day.

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Wayne Bickerdike]

By the time I got to Phoenix, she had left. (Apologies to Glenn Campbell).

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 5:55 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hah, yes, I have...
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > =
> > And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> > sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
> > ==
> > Have you been to Phoenix?
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> > > sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Spent some time in Phoenix teaching some REXX to colleagues. I'm an
> > > English
> > > > guy who moved to OZ in 1986 and had 5 years in California.
> > > >
> > > > After about an hour one of the guys put his hand up and said, "excuse
> > me,
> > > > what's ZED?"
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <
> > > jesse1.robin...@sce.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of
> Mr.
> > > > > Hyde's evil twin.
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > > J.O.Skip Robinson
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@listserv.ua.
> EDU
> > ]
> > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of John McKown
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:51 AM
> > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > > > Subject: (External):Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <
> > bill.wood...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I
> > > > > > suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say
> > the
> > > > > > letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his
> > > head
> > > > > > look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual
> > letter,
> > > > > > D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each
> > > > > > letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always
> > her
> > > > > Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second,
> sicks
> > > and
> > > > > > dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > it
> > > > > once. -- Karl Lehenbauer
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[John Compton]

Back in 2000-2002, I worked in my native England, so it was 'zed oh ess'
Then I moved to an American-based company & it took me two years switch that to 
"zee oh ess".
A few years after that, I moved back to a UK employer & thought "here we go 
again...".
These days I've compromised on 'zos'

John

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
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Sent: 16 September 2016 17:32
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

In article <35f7ced8-7f18-43dd-995b-170e28d2a...@googlegroups.com> you wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 2:00:29 PM UTC-4, Mike Martin wrote:
> > Is it.. zoss?
> > 
> > Is it.. zee?
> > 
> > Is it zee...oh...esss?
> > 
> > Something else?
> > 
> > Sorry if this has already been beat to death, but I am just curious how 
> > everyone is saying it...

> Hi, I called IBM today from their z/OS website. The IBM agent said 
> "zed oh ess" or zed OS, or z/OS. The final believable word. ...:-)

Poor Mike has been waiting 15 years for this answer. :)

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[zMan]

Hah, yes, I have...

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> =
> And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
> ==
> Have you been to Phoenix?
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> > sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Spent some time in Phoenix teaching some REXX to colleagues. I'm an
> > English
> > > guy who moved to OZ in 1986 and had 5 years in California.
> > >
> > > After about an hour one of the guys put his hand up and said, "excuse
> me,
> > > what's ZED?"
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <
> > jesse1.robin...@sce.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of Mr.
> > > > Hyde's evil twin.
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > J.O.Skip Robinson
> > > > Southern California Edison Company
> > > > Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> > > > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> > > > 323-715-0595 Mobile
> > > > 626-302-7535 Office
> > > > robin...@sce.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of John McKown
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:51 AM
> > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > > Subject: (External):Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <
> bill.wood...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I
> > > > > suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say
> the
> > > > > letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his
> > head
> > > > > look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual
> letter,
> > > > > D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each
> > > > > letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always
> her
> > > > Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks
> > and
> > > > > dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Unix: Some say the learning curve is steep, but you only have to
> climb
> > it
> > > > once. -- Karl Lehenbauer
> > > > Unicode: http://xkcd.com/1726/
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Wayne Bickerdike]

=
And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
==
Have you been to Phoenix?

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Spent some time in Phoenix teaching some REXX to colleagues. I'm an
> English
> > guy who moved to OZ in 1986 and had 5 years in California.
> >
> > After about an hour one of the guys put his hand up and said, "excuse me,
> > what's ZED?"
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <
> jesse1.robin...@sce.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of Mr.
> > > Hyde's evil twin.
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > J.O.Skip Robinson
> > > Southern California Edison Company
> > > Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> > > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> > > 323-715-0595 Mobile
> > > 626-302-7535 Office
> > > robin...@sce.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of John McKown
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:51 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: (External):Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <bill.wood...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I
> > > > suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the
> > > > letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
> > > >
> > > > 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his
> head
> > > > look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter,
> > > > D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each
> > > > letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always her
> > > Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks
> and
> > > > dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> it
> > > once. -- Karl Lehenbauer
> > > Unicode: http://xkcd.com/1726/
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[John McKown]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:52 PM, zMan  wrote:

> And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
> sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.
>
>
​I learned about "Zed" from the movie "MIB" (Men In Black). That was almost
20 years ago.​



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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[zMan]

And you replied, "You need to get out more", I assume! Sheesh. It might
sound odd to the American ear, but it's not exactly that obscure.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Spent some time in Phoenix teaching some REXX to colleagues. I'm an English
> guy who moved to OZ in 1986 and had 5 years in California.
>
> After about an hour one of the guys put his hand up and said, "excuse me,
> what's ZED?"
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of Mr.
> > Hyde's evil twin.
> >
> > .
> > .
> > J.O.Skip Robinson
> > Southern California Edison Company
> > Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> > 323-715-0595 Mobile
> > 626-302-7535 Office
> > robin...@sce.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of John McKown
> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:51 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: (External):Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <bill.wood...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I
> > > suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the
> > > letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
> > >
> > > 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his head
> > > look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter,
> > > D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each
> > > letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
> > >
> >
> > ​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always her
> > Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks and
> > > dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Unix: Some say the learning curve is steep, but you only have to climb it
> > once. -- Karl Lehenbauer
> > Unicode: http://xkcd.com/1726/
> >
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> > John McKown
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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Wayne Bickerdike]

Spent some time in Phoenix teaching some REXX to colleagues. I'm an English
guy who moved to OZ in 1986 and had 5 years in California.

After about an hour one of the guys put his hand up and said, "excuse me,
what's ZED?"

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of Mr.
> Hyde's evil twin.
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-302-7535 Office
> robin...@sce.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <bill.wood...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I
> > suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the
> > letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
> >
> > 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his head
> > look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter,
> > D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each
> > letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
> >
>
> ​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always her
> Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.
>
>
>
> >
> > In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks and
> > dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
> >
> >
>
> --
> Unix: Some say the learning curve is steep, but you only have to climb it
> once. -- Karl Lehenbauer
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[Jesse 1 Robinson]

Don't know jickle, but don't confuse that with JECL, homophone of Mr. Hyde's 
evil twin. 

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger <bill.wood...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I 
> suppose, is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the 
> letters but with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
>
> 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his head 
> look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter, 
> D-O-S J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each 
> letter. Not enough time in the world for that.
>

​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always her Jickel 
(rhymes with Nickel)​.



>
> In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks and 
> dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Bill Woodger 
wrote:

> NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I suppose,
> is if it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the letters but
> with no gaps in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.
>
> 1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his head
> look like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter, D-O-S
> J-C-L, with alternating minor waggles of his head at each letter. Not
> enough time in the world for that.
>

​Oh, and now we can discuss how to say JCL as a word? I have always her
Jickel (rhymes with Nickel)​.



>
> In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks and
> dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).
>
>

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NaN in computing is pronounced, right? My rule of thu... mouth I suppose, is if 
it can be pronounced, pronounce it, otherwise say the letters but with no gaps 
in between. Emveeess vs Em-vee-ess.

1970's training video, American guy with hairstyle which made his head look 
like a triangle, studiously pronouncing each individual letter, D-O-S J-C-L, 
with alternating minor waggles of his head at each letter. Not enough time in 
the world for that.

In Portuguese, and allowing for my phonetics for the second, sicks and 
dehbehdoish (CICS, DB2).

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[CM Poncelet]

Nice one, Tony 

Tony Harminc wrote:


On 16 September 2016 at 16:22, Porowski, Kenneth  wrote:
 


DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
   



Except perhaps in "PARTURIENT MONTES, NASCETVR RIDICVLVS MVS", where
it would sound like "moose".

http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/html/button190.htm

 


ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'
   



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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Bernd Oppolzer]

tsicks in Germany
same for IMS, one word, no single letters (like eems, but short ee)
same for DOS
but: zed oh ess (German pronounciation of the letters)
oh ess 390 (390 in German)
v sam (sam like sum)
DB2 (with German number "zwei")

like OS/2, btw (oh ess zwei)

on my PC I have an old version of "DB zwei für OS zwei" running :-)

Kind regards

Bernd


Am 16.09.2016 um 23:34 schrieb Wayne Driscoll:

A long time ago I worked at a company that gave a CICS class to the
application people and the instructor was Italian. He raised a few
eyebrows, especially among the females in the class when he referred to the
product as "chicks"
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Jerry Whitteridge]

As an expat Brit that really makes me chuckle, and admit there were more than a 
few time the language differences tripped me up here too.

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And there was the time I was in a class in Britain where a female American 
raised a few eyebrows when the instructor said "should we take a break now?" 
and she "yeah, my fanny's tired."

Charles

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A long time ago I worked at a company that gave a CICS class to the application 
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And there was the time I was in a class in Britain where a female American 
raised a few eyebrows when the instructor said "should we take a break now?" 
and she "yeah, my fanny's tired."

Charles

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

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We take our bad grammar serious: You doesn't has to call me Mister Johnson.

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"Ohhh, you can call me Ray, you can call Jay, you can call RJ, you can call Ray 
Jay, but you doesn't have to call me Johnson!" 

Grammatical errors were part of the skit



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Subject: Re: How do you say "z/OS"?
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:22:37 +

DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'

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So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"?

Charles

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I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a 
Mainframe newb.


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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

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A long time ago I worked at a company that gave a CICS class to the
application people and the instructor was Italian. He raised a few
eyebrows, especially among the females in the class when he referred to the
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> Legacy, how did you pronounce MVS, MVS/SP, MVS/ESA and OS/390?  I
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On 16 September 2016 at 16:22, Porowski, Kenneth  wrote:
> DOS was always 'doss'
>
> OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
> SVS was 'ess vee ess'
> MVT was 'em vee tee'
> MVS was 'em vee ess'

Except perhaps in "PARTURIENT MONTES, NASCETVR RIDICVLVS MVS", where
it would sound like "moose".

http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/html/button190.htm

> ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
> OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'

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[Charles Mills]

I always crack up in France at wee-fee. (Especially in hotels that charge a wee 
fee for it!)

Charles

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I once worked in Montreal, the Anglophones always had to suppress smirks when 
the Francophones were discussing CICS and DB2, "Keeks" and "Debbie duh".

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Charles Mills]

Interesting the "hybrid" pronunciations -- part letter, part as though it were 
a word:

vee-sam
vee-tam (sometimes victor-tam, a hybrid of phonetic alphabet and word)
bee-tam (sometimes baker-tam, ditto)
queue-sam
bee-sam
bee-pam
bee-dam
tee-cam
queue-tam

And those were and are ALWAYS thus. One occasionally hears or heard dee-oh-ess 
and see-eye-see-ess, but never bee-tee-ay-em.

Charles

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DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'

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I once worked in Montreal, the Anglophones always had to suppress smirks when 
the Francophones were discussing CICS and DB2, "Keeks" and "Debbie duh".



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DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'

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So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"?

Charles

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I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a 
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"Ohhh, you can call me Ray, you can call Jay, you
can call RJ, you can call Ray Jay, but you
doesn't have to call me Johnson!" 

Grammatical errors were part of the skit



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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:22:37 +

DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
OS/390 was 'oh ess 390'

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So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"?

Charles

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Jeez, its Friday, I was just busting chops ...



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Legacy, how did you pronounce MVS, MVS/SP, MVS/ESA and OS/390?  I never heard 
"emmvees eisa"  :-)

Just commeting for kicks  (A CICS joke)


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I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a 
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On 9/16/2016 11:27 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote:
> I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you 
> pronounce the letter 'z'.  Either way is acceptable.

I'm not a big fan of "zauce" (rhymes with "sauce")...

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DOS was always 'doss'

OS/360 was 'oh ess 360'
SVS was 'ess vee ess'
MVT was 'em vee tee'
MVS was 'em vee ess'
ESA was 'eee ess aaa'
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So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"?

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So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"?

Charles

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Legacy, how did you pronounce MVS, MVS/SP, MVS/ESA and OS/390?  I never heard 
"emmvees eisa"  :-)  

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I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a 
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On 9/16/2016 11:27 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote:
> I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you 
> pronounce the letter 'z'.  Either way is acceptable.

I'm not a big fan of "zauce" (rhymes with "sauce")...

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I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a 
Mainframe newb.

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On 9/16/2016 11:27 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote:
> I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you 
> pronounce the letter 'z'.  Either way is acceptable.

I'm not a big fan of "zauce" (rhymes with "sauce")...

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Ed Jaffe]

On 9/16/2016 11:27 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote:

I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you 
pronounce the letter 'z'.  Either way is acceptable.


I'm not a big fan of "zauce" (rhymes with "sauce")...

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Porowski, Kenneth]

I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you 
pronounce the letter 'z'.  Either way is acceptable.



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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] How do you say "z/OS"?

In article <35f7ced8-7f18-43dd-995b-170e28d2a...@googlegroups.com> you wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 2:00:29 PM UTC-4, Mike Martin wrote:
> > Is it.. zoss?
> >
> > Is it.. zee?
> >
> > Is it zee...oh...esss?
> >
> > Something else?
> >
> > Sorry if this has already been beat to death, but I am just curious how 
> > everyone is saying it...

> Hi, I called IBM today from their z/OS website. The IBM agent said
> "zed oh ess" or zed OS, or z/OS. The final believable word. ...:-)

Poor Mike has been waiting 15 years for this answer. :)

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Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

[Don Poitras]

In article <35f7ced8-7f18-43dd-995b-170e28d2a...@googlegroups.com> you wrote:
> On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 2:00:29 PM UTC-4, Mike Martin wrote:
> > Is it.. zoss?
> > 
> > Is it.. zee?
> > 
> > Is it zee...oh...esss?
> > 
> > Something else?
> > 
> > Sorry if this has already been beat to death, but I am just curious how 
> > everyone is saying it...

> Hi, I called IBM today from their z/OS website. The IBM agent said "zed oh 
> ess" or zed OS, or z/OS. The final believable word. ...:-)

Poor Mike has been waiting 15 years for this answer. :)

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