Vamsee,
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Raja Subramanian
rajasuper...@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard from quite a few developers that SSDs do
help a lot in this case.
Is your computer a laptop or desktop or server?
Is your test suite disk IO bound, network bound or processor bound?
If you
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
on IRC people are raving about SSDs - what's the word in India about
linux and SSDs?
http://robert.penz.name/137/no-swap-partition-journaling-filesystem-on-a-ssd/
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
conclusions after that point. If you want to discuss this further,
catch me up on IRC or mail me offlist. I am sure the list needn't be
bothered further with this.
No way. Just because people are not contributing
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a
new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my
research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations?
Famous quote:
Hi folks,
conf.kde.in organizers have announced the keynote speakers. You can
read up on the speakers here
http://kde.in/conf/keynotes/
Oh, btw a gentle reminder that the registration is open.
http://kde.in/conf/register
Have fun.
Aanjhan
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Dear all,
Registration for conf.kde.in is now open! http://kde.in/conf/register/
The event will be held in Bangalore on March 9-11th, with a 2 day
coding spree on the 12-13th. http://kde.in/conf
For a list of shortlisted talks, go here - http://kde.in/conf/talks/
Thanks,
Aanjhan
Folks,
Here are the shortlisted talks for conf.kde.in 2011 - The first KDE
conference in India.
http://kde.in/conf/talks/
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On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Raja Subramanian
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I'm currently using a WRT54GL running TomatoVPN and want to upgrade to
something with a USB port.
I want to attach an external USB HDD and run a mini NAS with
samba/FTP/uShare for 2-3 clients at home.
I am
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.in wrote:
It was a surprise that, the dept. faculties spent more than 3 hours
experimenting with many of the foss tools like Codeblocks (c/c++ ide),
netbeans, Gambas (visual basic clone), mysql and later on I told them
about
First KDE Conference in India Read forwarded message.
http://conf.kde.in
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From: Shantanu Tushar Jha jhahon...@gmail.com
Date: 2010/12/28
Subject: [KDE-India] Official Announcement on the KDE dot News
To: KDE-India List kde-in...@kde.org
KDE India
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Vamsee Kanakala vkanak...@gmail.com wrote:
A very good initiative, but I think it needs to be done in a lot more
organized manner than just listing contacts on a wiki. Perhaps, something
[snip]
Say if there are 3 people interested in mentoring in Python, we
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Sudharshan S sudha...@gmail.com wrote:
Projects which start like this tend to become awesomer over time. Find your
'itch' and 'scratch' it. If you are stuck you can always seek guidance from
the mentors; but only IF you had attempted to use a search engine to
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Baskar Selvaraj bas...@linuxpert.in wrote:
A engg. college in coimbatore is urgently looking for open source
alternative for MicroWind DSCH3.1 verilog compiler. PIC16F modeler (it
costs about 4L+ for 5 user license).
If anybody knows foss equivalent for the
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Ashish Verma ilu...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to know if it is possible for someone to gain access to resources if
they capture a person's encrypted password.
It depends on the protocol. If its a very simple protocol where the
initial authentication between the
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:
Linux is fine to begin with but if you really want to do great things
you need to graduate out of linux in a year or two.
IMO, Linux is NOT fine to begin with. The code is way too big for a
beginner to
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:13 AM, maverick gugu maverick.g...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been always wanting to do this. Though my coding skills are not very
up to the mark, I wish to contribute to some open source project by coding
for it. Can you please guide me into which project can i start
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Mehul Ved mehul.n@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:
You could also use the gs command for that.
gs works with images? I have used gs for merging pdf documents but
never found a way
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Arulalan T arulal...@gmail.com wrote:
Is our mailing list for some entertainment?
Of-course it is.
The real entertainment gimmick is the excitement, drama and mystery
of the subject matter. People love to learn something, they are
‘entertained’ enormously by
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote:
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Dear Friends,The free software cell and Electrical Department of The
Govt. Engineering College Barton Hill is planning to conduct a
program on QUCS for the students of electrical
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
Channel : #ilugc-in
server : irc.freenode.net
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in/msg04040.html
#ilugchennai already exists.
Regards,
Aanjhan
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Can one of you please set this list on moderation mode until, some
sense prevails. Nobody wants to give up and things are getting out of
hand.
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
I Agree that, It may be tough to type in english,
translate in english or add [tamil] tag in the subject.
So tagging with [] is allowed? What about the tagging language?
Just wondering.
Best Regards,
Aanjhan
PS:
2010/7/14 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com:
Hello friends,apologies for sending this mail,i would yet again request the
tamil team for tagging the post with [tamil ].by sending this mail, i am not
trying to play smart here, but would like to make a point how annoying it is
for
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess, having a look at the previous reply will take less time than
pointing out the mistake OFTEN.
Sometimes the content matters than the format, No one does this
deliberately. Please try to understand.
Even still
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:19 PM, benedict nicholas
benedictnicho...@yahoo.com wrote:
2. Is FOSS subject, a part of curriculum in Colleges/Universities abroad?
In universities abroad, generally there is no separate subject/course
teaching Open Source. However, people encourage / use a number of
Hi All,
Our project, GNUSim8085 [1] is looking for
translators. It will be great if some of
you can pitch in and help. We are using Launchpad for the
translations.
The original call for translation is here.
https://lists.launchpad.net/gnusim8085-devel/msg2.html
Any queries can be addressed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
thanks - imagine wasting 15 years with up-arrow.
You are not alone. I never knew of 'bc' until a few days back. Imagine
wasting all my time opening up CSVs in openoffice and manually doing
the calculations :(
I
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com wrote:
I found cat, cut, bc and in bliss since then. Need to learn more. So
many bash tricks that makes your life so much efficient.
Ofcourse I knew cat and cut! But the combo rocked! I highly recommend
to people who do a lot
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
so I am back to square 1
Since you are back to square one, now time to give some of my gyan.
All Fedora lovers stop reading here.
KDE on Fedora is probably the worst combo. You can ask a few KDE
devels and they
Forwarding a request on Ubuntu India mailing list to ILUGC.
In CC : Original Poster. Dont know whether he is subscribed to ILUGC as well.
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From: sivakumar bharadhwaj jeyendras...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] OT:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:
Short answer: Okular cannot change the annotations in PDF documents.
Yeah true! Just checked out by trying to Annotate in Okular and
opening in Adobe Reader. Didnt work. But Annotating PDF in Xournal
works (which I use
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I've read, Okular does not have these features. It, however,
has the capability to read/render different formats. This makes it an
interesting platform for review/ annotation across multiple formats.
When you
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
try it out - even the sfd2009 gallery loads at an impressive speed.
Impressive indeed. Any nice articles/ pointers you went through? May
be you would want to share your bookmarks on this topic?
Regards,
Aanjhan
2009/9/20 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com:
Dear Friends,
Is there any effective way of controlling spams in the trac wiki some thing
like a attack on http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/
googled, but no finite answers yet
I follow three things and its working well for me atleast
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
Firstoff, you have replied to the entire digest which imnho gives
clear indication of mailing list ettiquette awareness (or lack
thereof)
He is a known spammer, comes around in IRC as well on a
2009/9/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com:
Hello friends,
I thanks all the good and helping hearts of ilugc to support this event,
without them this venture would have been distance dream.
Arduino serial boards will be presented on SFD to those who supported this
event
Hats
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Vivek Rajagopalan
vi...@unleashnetworks.com wrote:
I have nothing personal against Yahoo! or the OP but the job ad is a riot.
It misspells 'phyton', uses a lot of '...', uses vague terms like LINUX
based network etc. It also addresses this group as lugges
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Swapnil
Bhartiyaswapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
Ubuntu or Linux kernel? He want all American kids to become tyrants like
Steve Jobs?
Tyrants - Google gives me the following synonym (a cruel and
oppressive dictator )
and thats something I am sure Obama wouldn't
And i used green color as t-shirt color, as some one told in previous
thread.
Tell all of your suggestions , and ur ideas.
Thanks for the work. But I feel it is best to keep things simple. KISS
always goes for the win.
We can have the logo of SFD in the front, with the tee shirt colour as
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, varadarajan
narayananrad.naraya...@gmail.com wrote:
I dont want someone, who has a photo of mine, to be able to get into my
computers :)
But Iris scanners are used as a secure log in !
Facial recognition - Disadvantage of having photographs and getting
through
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Kenneth
Gonsalveslaw...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi,
I have set up a planet for our lug:
http://demo.ilugc.org.in/planet/
This site is coming out very nice! Cheers to the collaborators :)
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Hi Folks,
I have a friend who needs 1 person for developing a in house tool
interacting with ebay APIs and some internal requirements.
Requirements are as follows :
* Preferably a student (Even freshers are welcome)
* Comfortable with PHP
* Prior experience with Code Igniter
* Self learning
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Ram Kumar.Kramkumarit2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi buddies I am Having micro processor lab this semester In my
college.. So i want to work with the GNUsim8085.. I had installed
GNUsim8085 in my Intrepid Ibex...And I also compiled and run the
program... but i don't
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Kenneth
Gonsalveslaw...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
it is still non-free and has no place on this list
There is a [Commercial] tag.
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Bharathi
Subramaniansbhara...@midascomm.com wrote:
This time, wiki is not open by default. If anyone wants to create
login will have to send a req mail and links to discussion that they
have participated in ilugc mailing list. All commits will be protected
by
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, sudharsan ssudhars...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi luggies,
I installed Debian-Lenny.. when i try to install some package using
apt-get install vlc etc.. it is asking to insert the debian cd/dvd.
what is the reason for this and is there any solution without inserting
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Arulalan Ttarula...@gmail.com wrote:
Html span tag does not works in FireFox , but it works very well in
Internet Explorer .
See if this helps.
http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/t-66696.html
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Arun Venkataswamyarun...@gmail.com wrote:
I will go ahead with Linode. They also seem friendly!
Not to meddle up with your decision but did you try vpslink ?
http://vpslink.com/
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Arun SAGsaga...@gmail.com wrote:
Just try typing linux (without the quotes of course) into the search
box at Microsoft's new search engine www.bing.com
http://www.bing.com/search?q=microsoft+sucksgo=form=QBREfilt=all
Nice and relevant results
Are we doing
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjapeka...@imsc.res.in wrote:
Unfortunately, these options are not offered by Dell in India.
On http://www.dell.co.in/ I could not find any option of choosing
Ubuntu pre-installed.
I think Dell recently announced the Dell Latitude 2100 netbook in
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Another silent winner - aanjhan. Congratulations aanjhan.
thanks :) Hard work begins now!
Cheers!
Aanjhan
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Ramkumar ramkumar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Friends,
We r using Labview for our project.
Is there any open source software equivalent for Labview
in LInux?
A bit of googling around gave me a couple of pieces of software. But
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM, varadarajan narayanan
rad.naraya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Luggies !
I need to install Iced tea for Ubuntu.
It says add the proper repositories.
Any idea which repository to be added ?
Have you got the universe repository enabled ?
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Ramkumar ramkumar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Friends,
We r using Labview for our project.
Is there any open source software equivalent for Labview
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Bharathi Subramanian
sbhara...@midascomm.com wrote:
April Month ILUGC Meet scheduled on Sat Apr 11th 3PM at IITM. Anybody
willing to give a talk in this meet, Plz mail back to me, with the
topic.
Yay! Cool! I can attend a LUG meet after loong time! I was
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:41 PM, varadarajan narayanan
rad.naraya...@gmail.com wrote:
For the providers to survive , they depend on open source virtualisation
techniques to offer virtuals servers.
Then using those virtual machines they offer both Linux and Windows hosting.
I think dedicated
My first reply failed to reach ILUGC List. If it actuall reached
apologies for the repeat post.
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From: Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] chennailug.org is not functioning properly.
To: ILUG-C ilugc
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
omfg - even HE has got cracked
It is not him. :-) There are too many sudharshans here.
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote:
you will get the info for all your queries reg FOSSLab server from
nrcf...@au-kbc.in.
This page will helpful for you to know about FOSSLab server.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Bhargav Prasanna
bhargavprasa...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't we organize an event where we'll go to various
colleges/institutions and promote linux? Of course, the time
constraint is there. But we're a good number, aren't we? At least, we
can try and make it a
Hello List,
Please read the below mail. Can anyone confirm this please?
Thanks in advance.
A
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From: Ninad Pundalik ninadsp16...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:41 AM
Subject: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Mirror at IITM down?
To: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM, arun kumar arun_kris...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller.
Do you have prior experience in Programming hardware? Else I would
suggest you start with smaller MicroController and get used to
programming hardware first and
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote:
This is childish and insane. Who started first? I just sent the feedback in
http://www.fossconf.in/feedback.
Dont make Private Mails public. Period. Request to end this
conversation and have better constructive conversation on
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:49 PM, sivaji j.g sivaji2...@gmail.com wrote:
http://sivaji.ubuntu-tam.org/files/singlefile-slides1.ppt
Long live FOSS
It takes less than a few seconds to convert it to pdf and upload. It
doesnt send nice signals especially if it is coming from NRCFOSS
employees.
But
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
On Friday 27 February 2009 13:48:33 kish wrote:
http://dpaste.com/2300/
yes - that has to be fixed. What I need now is to know if people can hear the
sounds, and if so, on which distros/browsers
I refreshed two
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi
what happens when you click on 'play' in this:
http://arichuvadi.nrcfosshelpline.in/web/displaylesson/1/21/
doesnt work in fff3/fedora10
Unable to click (I expect the mouse pointer to change when I hover on
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Bharathi Subramanian
sbhara...@midascomm.com wrote:
now 8K
Fine. Tmrow night, Myself, Raman and Amachu are going to Mdu. I am
not sure about the possibility of the collecting the money before
Friday. So I decided to give the money on behalf of all. KG and
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Raja Subramanian
rajasuper...@gmail.com wrote:
What's the best distro for the Aspire One at the moment?
I would prefer Debian or the derivatives.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
Seems like almost everything works (ofcourse some tweaking needed)
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
hi,
I just upgraded to fedora10 - rocks bigtime. But having problems playing
movies. It is asking for a
VCD protocol source
how do I go about this?
Fedora 10 sucks. Change to Mandriva :-P
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
Friends.
We have 3 ubuntu 8.04 boxes and no internet connection.
But we have the 5 ubuntu repository DVDs got from zyxware.com
The same guys from where you got the DVDs from have instructions to do
this also though
2009/1/15 Bruce Mathew brucemat...@gmail.com:
dear friends
I canot install a codec for mp3 in my ubuntu
Pls help This is the error that i am getting
*
This application is provided by the Ubuntu community.
GStreamer extra plugins cannot be installed on your computer type (i386).
Either the
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
GATE is for going to foreign? Then we do not need you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_Aptitude_Test_in_Engineering
HTH :-)
Aanjhan
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Hi,
SuperTUX is one of the favorite game of my son. In that, I want to
Thanks for the pointer. I am loving it too :-)
Regards,
Aanjhan
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do let me know as there is not much time left (16th October is the
deadline for FOSS Workouts).
Please go ahead and register. There is enough interest and people from
Ubuntu India are also interested in
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(obviously) in the restricted section. I do not have too much gyan on this,
but happen to read this in the response mdz made for Greg's presentation.
For people who are wondering what or who this mdz is. Here goes the link.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, plagiarism smells bad... Looks like someone did not want to
work on the documentation --- at least in English.
BOSS is a distro full of controversies. Read
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the article of Greg Kroah-Hartman, maintainer of the USB and other
subsystems in the Linux kernel mentioning Canonical contribution to be 100
patches viz a viz 230 by Mandriva and only 270 by Gentoo. Remember
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Raman.P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The students - really pearls. Very highly motivated, intelligent and
dedicated especially one Shivamoorthy. I am sure FOSS community will get few
more sudharshans from here.
OMG. One Sudarshan is good enough to destroy the
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to install the ubuntu operating system.I am get the Ubuntu
cd.But it have not the many softwares.so i want the Ubuntu DVD.Where i can
get that DVD.
What software is missing? On a Ubuntu DVD also you might not find
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A modified version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux runs LHC.
http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/09/large-hadron-collider---powere.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/5cyhux
Yeah. Atleast folks use GnU/Linux and Free Software to
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
up to you - workshop would start at around 9 am - the lab already has
fedora9 - so if you mention what software you need installed you could even
come in the morning. If you want to install stuff of your own, you could
Hello All,
Please find the experience of the Global bug jam at
http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2008/08/11/ubuntu-global-bug-jam-we-indian-team-r0c/
Have a great week ahead.
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Hi,
You must have heard on the Ubuntu Global Bug Jam by now. If not read
it here NOW - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam
It would be great if a few of the interested folks in Chennai can get
together at some place with Internet connectivity and start squashing
bugs jointly. Anybody game? If so
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Raman.P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
8. Computer aided learning using educational software like gcompris
kstars etc.
The KDE Education project has a whole list of very good tools. One can
have a look of all the tools available here
http://edu.kde.org/ (The new
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