Re: [ilugd] October Meet

2007-10-16 Thread vivek khurana
--- Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, ILUGD October meet is finalized at Jaypee institute of Information technology , Noida Which is having a fair amount of Linux student enthusiasts. hmm... I think it makes sense to post meeting date and time with the announcement.

[ilugd] reduce power consumptions of the linux boxes

2007-10-08 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all Want to reduce power consumed by the linux box without installing any softwares ? See this www.lesswatts.org A website by Intel which aims at building a community around saving power on linux boxes. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a

Re: [ilugd] [CROSS-POSTED] Fwd: Re: Free/Open Source Research

2007-09-17 Thread vivek khurana
--- Rajesh Lalwani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why am I witness to these intresting back and forths? Do I need to be on the list? nope, go home, drink coffee and sleep. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

Re: [ilugd] scope of the conference

2007-09-16 Thread vivek khurana
--- Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Freed 2007, the audience is intended to be mostly end users, and are expected to be fairly new to FOSS. However, there will probably be a large number of developers too. hehe, is that a scope or short listing of user types for the scope ?

Re: [ilugd] Activity on freed.in/2007

2007-09-14 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a small comment: A lot of technical talks have come under the 'General' Category. Wouldnt it be better to shift these to something like 'Programming' or 'Development' - I count 8 papers in general including things like python

Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-14 Thread vivek khurana
--- Andev Debi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doesnt it sound like using an atom bomb to kill a bird?? heard of a word called humor regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong

Re: [ilugd] [off-topic not] vision of an enlightened indian mystic oncopyleft

2007-09-11 Thread vivek khurana
I think posting across list (not cross posting) is cheap propaganda. It also creates confusion as poster are not aware of the full responses on the other list(s). It is a form of selective editing and we dont expect seniors to indulge in such activity. If you want to have discussion with a

Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recently, i found a clever little hack for myself: launch firefox, and the epiphany web browser concurrently. this way i can keep myself logged in concurrently to two gmail accounts. World known facts dont become clever hacks or discoveries. No

Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suggestion: first convert them to open source and then give them the philosophy. Conversion is not done by preaching, but by practical examples in programming/useage/tricks and tips. And the, if needed, a little bit of philosophy and

Re: [ilugd] Agenda for talk at NSIT

2007-09-02 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so open lazlo? or chuck it and have a long 2 hour lecture on the merits of gpl3 over gpl2 Wow, i can foresee the NSIT canteen and sales for tea and coffee shooting over the roof ;-) What happened to you after suggesting such good topics?

Re: [ilugd] Cloning a disk over network

2007-08-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Batch-B Linux partitions I have two questions: A. Is there any short way of cloning the partition table of a master, including resizing of Windows Partition? Clonig and resizing together? These are two atomic operations better kept separate.

Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry

2007-08-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-a1200-en.shtml) It's not too great yup ocmpared to non-linux phone, this phone lacks several features including applications. What are you saying.. At 12k it's the best Linux based phone readily

Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu Freezing on Boot

2007-08-05 Thread vivek khurana
--- Parijat Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I just setup Fiesty on my machine and during boot, it freezes. The following is the error I get: kinit: no resume image found, doing normal boot This is a known issue in ubuntu. See this for details

Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu Freezing on Boot

2007-08-05 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the install disk, pop that in to drive and boot. Then choose memtest86+ from menu and let is complete one full pass (this takes time) and see if any errors are thrown up. Just because the disk is new does not guarantee error free.

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-04 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did i read that right? you mean 700GB, or 700TB, but surely not 700MB? also, strange as this may sound, can i get a similar buffalo here in india? Yes, Buffalo NAS stations are available in India. regards VK Engineers normally have problem

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks vivek. i wonder if hardisks, especially when used for such heavy read-writes, can last 10 years. i've seen my data cds have actually lasted 10 years, but can't recall a single hard-disk that has. As backups which is not accessed so

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Splurge on another Rs. 1.5K for a good USB/IDE interface, and you have instant access to the stored data. so you're saying i could use a usb2 hub, plug in 500GB hardisks slapped into usb-casings connected to this hub, and run a raid? RAID

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. bunch of 750GB HDD for home storage. gulp! i agree with kishore, you gotta give a talk at freed.in

Re: [ilugd] usb-disk in happy hunting grounds. please help

2007-07-31 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bought a 120gb usb-ide external hardisk last month. formatted it with the fat32 filesystem, connected it to my ubuntu feisty, and backed up some heavy files on it. at the end of each session, ensured i properly unmounted it before disconnecting

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-07-31 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? dvd discs have come down in price, but some of the data-files are individually larger than 10gb (home video) and cutting and storing sliced versions across discs

Re: [ilugd] embedded kits

2007-07-25 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sharad Birmiwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, I have a P1 - 133MHZ (16MB RAM). I was thinking of doing that but I can't carry it around to show off my latest projects :). Isn't small beautiful? why not use mini itx board ? regards VK Engineers normally have problem

Re: [ilugd] embedded kits

2007-07-25 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sharad Birmiwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I would like to start with blinking lights, display drivers, any and all trivial things that got me (and you?) started with programming? I wanted to write dedicated applications, program the flash, and execute. It's hard to justify this

Re: [ilugd] embedded kits

2007-07-25 Thread vivek khurana
Anyways, I open the thing only to find that the top of all chips (two big ones representing probably the processor and memory) had been fused (probably custom chips inside).. Thats the art of fabrication. Or may be an FPGA. Yeah probably its an overkill to do blinking lights.. Do one

Re: [ilugd] gumstix that run linux

2007-07-23 Thread vivek khurana
--- Ankur Rohatgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not the same but cool nonetheless - http://www.fingergear.com Have used one for a couple of days, pretty good. hmm.. how is it different from Ubuntu on a flash drive ? regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they

Re: [ilugd] ankur at freed.in with radio? and others too?

2007-07-23 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what sayest thou? plus, anyone else has an idea for a talk or a presentation? please share at the freed.in site. the call for papers, as you guys know, is on. An one enthu to speak on http://www.neurosaudio.com/osd/osd.asp Do we ahve someone

[ilugd] Fwd: [izpug] [JOB] Building Open Source weather visualization tools

2007-07-22 Thread vivek khurana
Please reply to Prabu directly for this. Note: forwarded message attached. Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to

[ilugd] Fwd: [izpug] [JOB] Building Open Source weather visualization tools

2007-07-22 Thread vivek khurana
Forwarding again as message was forwarded as attachment last time. --- Prabhu Ramachandran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Prabhu Ramachandran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:42:56 +0530 Subject: [izpug] [JOB] Building Open Source weather visualization tools

Re: [ilugd] Minutes of meetings on Sun., July 15th

2007-07-21 Thread vivek khurana
--- Rohan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm a lawyer and I'd be glad to help. While I'm new to this list, I've been following issues on open source/foss and Indian copyright law for some time now. If someone needs further info, I could help. But it'd be useful to know what

[ilugd] moblin.org

2007-07-18 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, Intel launches Linux mobile and internet project. More at http://www.moblin.org/ regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The

Re: [ilugd] Technical issues on linux-delhi.org

2007-07-18 Thread vivek khurana
--- Nishikant Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: full with Freed and other such stuff. May be, its time we can ask for a volunteer? It should be noted that there are probably other systems running at ILUG-D server that are using mySQL and so, an upgrade might be impacting those too.

Re: [ilugd] gumstix that run linux

2007-07-17 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gumstix.com/ and http://gumstix.org/ For all those interested, gumstix i shipping DIY GSM and GPS kits http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=193

Re: [ilugd] gumstix that run linux

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gumstix.com/ and http://gumstix.org/ well http://www.littlechips.com/ is another good vendor. gumstix are cool and affordable. just roll your own. can already think of neat ideas around this. what's yours? Neither gumstix or

Re: [ilugd] openmoko-based guitar tuner

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
so anybody in the ILUG-d who has, or has ordered, an openmoko? apparantly, the Neo1973 mobilephone that it runs on, can also dual-boot into windows, according to FIC. hehe, its a normal computer, can run netbsd too. Or any OS which supports ARM-11 architecture. regards VK Engineers

Re: [ilugd] Cloning a disk over network

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
--- Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for a cool, snap to setup with defaults, fast to finish solution for cloning disks over network: Have a look at http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ . Might solve our problem. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not

Re: [ilugd] openmoko-based guitar tuner

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
just realized my question is incorrectly stated. should read: anybody ordered the Neo1973? the openMoko is a platform that can run on anything, anywhere, you Shipping price is too high because of low volume of devices. $120 is not a normal shipping price you pay. Anyways i know that one

Re: [ilugd] openmoko-based guitar tuner

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
check out the wiki on some of the amazing ideas people are working on. someone's hacking to port asterisk to it, to run among other things, an EPBX service over it. hehe, asterix will not work. There was a long discussion on openmoko devel list regarding this. Search the archive for

Re: [ilugd] gumstix that run linux

2007-07-16 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow guys! thanks for the further pointers. is it just me, or whenever anyone shares more info or ideas on the mailing list, our collective knowledge and awareness grows through contributions and comments by others? well blame it to your properly

Re: [ilugd] final agenda of 15jul2k7 meet, 2pm, JNU ?

2007-07-14 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gora, could ya please confirm the agenda? kinshuk from osscamps cannot unfortunately make it, but he says he will write to the ilug-d mailing list and see if we could meet sometime mid-week. ankur, hope ya comin' with ya radio. well Karanbir is

Re: [ilugd] [LIG] Fwd: internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07

2007-07-13 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vivek khurana will want to let-go into classical dhrupad, hehe.. yet to find a station which servers this... sudev will move to some loud bhangra, and that's when ankur will yank his radio away and revv back to the sanctity of his home. oh yaa

Re: [ilugd] [LIH] Version control strategy

2007-07-13 Thread vivek khurana
I dont think this would fit a standard project layout where we can tag all the scripts for each release. It also doesnt seem to make sense to create a module out of every script. Changes could be as frequent as multiple times a day to maybe once in two years. Almost all the changes result

Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07

2007-07-12 Thread vivek khurana
Spread awareness? Start a free music based channel of our own? :) Not a bad idea though regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The

[ilugd] firefox event

2007-07-12 Thread vivek khurana
hi! all, A firefox event is taking place in Mumbai on 21st July 2007. More details on http://www.mehtanirav.com/2007/06/29/join-hands-with-firefox/ regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts

Re: [ilugd] internet-radio with amarok, over 4, 000 channels 24x7. all could go dead on 15.7.07

2007-07-12 Thread vivek khurana
gotcha! here's the exasperating thing: even *if* i publish my music under a copyleft and/or free license, or just give it away royalty-free, the RIAA *will* collect royalties for *all* music broadcast or shared on the web. so as an artist you could just give up and collect your money

Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS

2007-07-12 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by 'buying' the author. apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app. can we expect several more of such similar

Re: [ilugd] Clarification on weekend meet

2007-07-11 Thread vivek khurana
--- Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vivek, I am not quite sure why you see this as an attempt to somehow hijack your private meeting, or why you seem to see this as a threat. huh? did i say that there is an attempt to hijack my meeting ? And why should i feel threatened when i have

[ilugd] Clarification on weekend meet

2007-07-10 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, I dont know what has given birth to this confusion over weekend meet. A bunch of guys will be meeting (non-ilugd) on Thursday 6pm at WImpy's Cp to discuss the logistics about conducting Osscamp delhi. This meet is not an ilugd meet and is seperate from ilugd affairs. Just because I am

[ilugd] How no tto teach linux to your grandma

2007-07-09 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all A good read for linux nerds trying to migrate computer users to linux http://polishlinux.org/gnu/understanding-the-common-user-everything-should-be-as-simple-as-it-is/ regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip in fact, wish i could compile and publish on a page all the info of all the foss deployment across academia in india. any ideas how we could do this? Why not use a Wiki ? We have a wiki on ilugd website. ALternatively we can www.wikia.com or

Re: [ilugd] Broadband Connection

2007-06-28 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! Parijat, Welcome to delhi dude... --- Parijat Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning to install broadband (yep, there still are people who don't have broadband at home) and am wondering which ISP provides the best service. I also need to setup WiFi at home. Do these

Re: [ilugd] Listing pages in directory as links

2007-06-24 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing some intranet pages under ~/public_html directory. As I keep adding more and more pages under this directory I want to create a index.html page here that will constantly update itself whenever a new page is added and provide a link to

[ilugd] peer to patent review program

2007-06-18 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, USPTO has recently launched a pilot project, which invites communities to review patent applications. Aim of the project is identify prior art, discuss, annotate and forward the top ten prior art refrences to USPTO. Currently there are five patent applications inviting community

Re: [ilugd] Microsoft and Linspire reach interop, IP deal

2007-06-16 Thread vivek khurana
go to jail, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 we call it gibberish in normal english. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the

Re: [ilugd] [OT] Downloading GPS data

2007-05-30 Thread vivek khurana
[53853.204000] usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 8 [53853.424000] usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [53853.424000] pl2303 2-8:1.0: pl2303 converter detected [53853.424000] usb 2-8: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Is lsusb showing the

Re: [ilugd] [OT] Downloading GPS data

2007-05-29 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is OT here but with collective wisdom of readers can any one ppoint me to any resource on command sets to be used for downloading data from GPS units that connect on to usb ? I have tried gpsbable and gpstrans but they provide mostly for

Re: [ilugd] [OT] Downloading GPS data

2007-05-29 Thread vivek khurana
@ Vivek : Names? A google search will result in loads of names. I am not aware of any free ones. snip When I connect the /dev/USB0 through cutecom / minicom I can receive the current logging just fine almost automatically. But as i said I need to retrieve the data that has been logged

Re: [ilugd] ILUG-Delhi meeting: 2pm, Sun., May 20th, JNU BIC

2007-05-17 Thread vivek khurana
--- Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vivek - can you also gauge the interest for a mysql (or broadly open source dbs) sub conference ? I am open to any project or group of projects. My idea is to promote a given open source project. We can only one sub conference but which one

[ilugd] RoR installation anyone ?

2007-05-17 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, I am currently testing various conference management softwares for freedwl 2007. I am facing a problem that I am not been able to get Ruby on Rails working on my system. I dont have time and commitment to get it working. So, is there someone on the list who has a web based R0R

Re: [ilugd] dual core

2007-05-15 Thread vivek khurana
--- Yashpal Nagar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! How do we figure out if the CPU is dual core? i am running RHEL 3/4 and SUSE 10. I have used lshw, /proc/cpuinfo but none of them tell this arch of CPU. Does it show one cpu or two cpu ? regards VK Engineers normally have problem with

Re: [ilugd] Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents

2007-05-14 Thread vivek khurana
--- Lokesh Bhog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates more than 230 of its patents, according to a magazine report published Sunday. In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith alleges that the Linux kernel violates 42

Re: [ilugd] [OT]Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-10 Thread vivek khurana
You guys remind me of Shakespeare's saying Whats in the name ? regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw...

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? Since its inception. regrds VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a

Re: [ilugd] subconferences at ilugd conference in sept (frred or freedel or something else ?)

2007-05-07 Thread vivek khurana
--- Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this might work, but there needs to be more of a planning, including topics, and distribution of times. At present, there are three parallel tracks planned, and this looks to me like adding a fourth track. I am not sure if there

[ilugd] subconferences at ilugd conference in sept (frred or freedel or something else ?)

2007-05-06 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, I would have loved to mention the name of the event in the subject but teh confusion still holds. I am proposing holding subconferences withing the ilugd sept event. These subconferences will focus on one issue i.e will be like a conference by a SIG under teh banner of ilugd. There

Re: [ilugd] Conference Management App for FreeDel '07

2007-04-03 Thread vivek khurana
Cool. It would be great if you would take up this job. Also, we would like to evaluate similar software developed by linuxconf.au. Someone can follow up with a URL for this, or I will get you one. How soon do you think this can be up? Ideally, we would like to have online paper

Re: [ilugd] Nagios Newbies mailing list

2007-03-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Want a mailman list? I can set one up for you. i could set up a yahoo one rofl, thats a good one :-) regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

[ilugd] foss.nitc

2007-03-08 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, I attended recently concluded foss.nitc in Calicut. Conducted in fluctuating weather of Kerla, foss.nitc was hosted inside beautiful NIT Calicut campus, few kilometers away from civilization. A fun filled event wich coincided with Holi. Pretty decent turn out on first day (approx

Re: [ilugd] foss.nitc

2007-03-08 Thread vivek khurana
--- Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your photos. I could see my alma mater change a lot since last 18 years. It gives me immense satisfaction to see some of these college institutions where I used to play a pivotal role in my days, are now hosting events of such

Re: [ilugd] Steve jobs on abolishing DRM

2007-02-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huge snip Thank God, there are people on the list not obsessed with M$ alone. At last there are several things to discuss apart from M$ involvement with LA. Well here is an interesting development in this issue

Re: [ilugd] ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]

2007-02-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not useless - the only useless thing here is your post Thanks for pointing that a useless post was suficient to subdue a thread full of ego hassles. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution

Re: [ilugd] REQUEST: Re: ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]

2007-02-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 February 2007 21:54, Anupam Jain wrote: [snip] Please ignore all further flamebait from trolls with agenda on the list. Ignore them and they die. What took you so long to say

Re: [ilugd] ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]

2007-02-09 Thread vivek khurana
Actually *Haskell* is the king of languages and could beat Ruby with one compiler implementation tied behind its back! +1 regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. http://creative.linux-delhi.org Disclaimer

Re: [ilugd] ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]

2007-02-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who also happens to be a hard worker, a huge contributor to the FOSS movement. A person who contributes code (which is quite rare around here). Democracy has no place in the FOSS movement. Contribution talks. Gora contributes - so he is

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
FOSS - Free Open Source Software OSS - Open Source Software Please note the word 'software' in both these. that is what we are talking about here. There are many other Free and/ or Open thingies in the world. We are not talking about them here. Further i find people who take the

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
dont be silly - does creative dot take a broad liberal view and allow proprietary stuff there? Yup, you can post work created using proprietary software as long as you have licensed copy of the software. And yes we have M$ executives as contributors too. regards VK Engineers normally

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
thats not what i said - i asked if you permit no-sharing, copy- protect, no-copying, no-distribution? according to this: http://creative.linux-delhi.org/?q=node/2 you dont. Why dont you allow that also. Why restrict to just these 12 licenses? Be liberal. Invite everyone in - you

[ilugd] Steve jobs on abolishing DRM

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, Steve jobs suggests abolishing DRM in a recently published article at apple's website more at http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they contributed the line return 0; to linux code. :-) nah, exit -1 :-) regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. http://creative.linux-delhi.org Disclaimer The facts

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not nil and I will vouch for it. Read my Haskell post for an example. Go to research.microsoft.com and you'll realise that Microsoft engineers contribute a lot in terms of ideas (though their code may still be under MS' control). And I

[ilugd] M$ can be sued

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! Found his interesting posting on fsf-frinds mailing list http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2007-February/004604.html SHows how M$ can be sued under IT act. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

Re: [ilugd] M$ can be sued

2007-02-08 Thread vivek khurana
--- Surjo Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for top-posting here as my blackberry mail client doesn't allow to bottom-post. Now coming to the point. Why is it that LUGs cannot think beyond Microsoft. Why are we so MS obsessed ? Instead let us concentrate on what FOSS has to offer.

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-07 Thread vivek khurana
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07-Feb-07, at 12:56 PM, vivek khurana wrote: Just one presentation with no explaination from any reperesntative regarding the purpose of presentation. Yes a presentation was running along with demo of Vista and M$ office 2007

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-07 Thread vivek khurana
Maybe we should create an orkut community titled MS trojan horse @ LA ;-) ducking and running VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. http://creative.linux-delhi.org Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody,

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-07 Thread vivek khurana
when an event of big scale is to be organized the planning has to be well in advance.. engaging with the community has to begin early on not at last minute.. with less than a month left for the event! I would second that. I have come to know preparations for LCA start 18 months in

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007 (Pls read the complete news clipping)

2007-02-07 Thread vivek khurana
--- Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahul, in what way was my selective editing misrepresentative of my point? I copy pasted the relevant content from ET's epaper edition. In any case, would I be so stupid to misquote from an easily verifiable source - that too a very

Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 47, Issue 5

2007-02-06 Thread vivek khurana
A serious, alert [would be] customer will notice the absence of FLOSS activists in an event which is supposed to be about FLOSS. If s/he is does not notice, s/he is not a worthy customer. Again a hypothetical situation. How many customers are seriously alert? If this had been the case do

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-06 Thread vivek khurana
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A booklet distributed by Microsoft at the CXOSummit presented how Microsoft was working with Open Source projects! I believe the same was running as a presentation on their booth too. Now how many events have witnessed that? :-) Just one presentation with

Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-04 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! All, Well interesting thread. I had been quite as I was interested in watching the general trend adopted by this thread. Unfortunately, we are again heading for standard discussion of money versus knowledge sharing. Why is it that most of our OSS vs. proprietary discussions end up being

[ilugd] creativedot streaming event

2007-01-27 Thread vivek khurana
hi! all, I know this is too late to announce but, still creative.linux-delhi.org will be conducting an audiocast event at IIT mumbai starting 3pm 27th january 2007. Stream of the event will be available at a href=http://streaming.creative.linux-delhi.org:8000/creativedot.ogg.m3u;

Re: [ilugd] creativedot streaming event

2007-01-27 Thread vivek khurana
up with a pre recorded song Som rocks, composed by the group (ok i cant recall the name). This song was also streamed. Som rocks will be released under creative commons along with interview of the group. Do watch this space for another interesting interview. regards VK --- vivek khurana [EMAIL

Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Hurry up: 150 Free Passes Left for LinuxAsia 07

2007-01-21 Thread vivek khurana
top post intentional as the content of thread appears to be junk Ok guys this is not a customer support list. If you want such discussions please email eachother personally. And yes be carefull about posting personal details of third person on the list. regards VK --- �Honey � [EMAIL

Re: [ilugd] Indian language character conversion

2006-11-07 Thread vivek khurana
hi! IMHO this appears to be a requirement specification than a design document. regards VK --- Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My apologies to people who are getting this multiple times. I have discussed the issue of a generalised approach to Indian language character

[ilugd] [maybe OT]research papers as open content

2006-11-02 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all Some one please shed light on which Open Source/Creative Commons license is sutaible for publishing reasearch papers and white papers. The issue in question is how can a researcher ensures that a) He gets credit for the research b) Any one using the research paper as the basis for her

Re: [ilugd] Query: Drag and Drop Javscript

2006-09-04 Thread vivek khurana
--- Shikha Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends I am trying to find a AJAX for drag and drop from a istbox to textbox. NOTE the traget of the drop zone is textbox. The value of the textbox should become the value of the identity dragged from the list box. So I need to pick up

Re: [ilugd] [Commercial][OT] LFY running on ASP(was previously LINUX For You September 2006 - Highlights)

2006-09-02 Thread vivek khurana
--- V Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip interesting, a magazine which sells and promotes opensource/linux/free software seems to be running ASP. http://www.lfymag.com/index.asp?id=13 the link speaks a story on it's own. :-) Well I can infer that an organization using ASP is promoting

Re: [ilugd] How can i store email directly to a database?

2006-07-27 Thread vivek khurana
Amit, Write a filter to parse every incoming email to a script which will parse the email and dump it into a database. regards VK --- Amit Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can i store emails into database like Oracle. --amit __

[ilugd] generating html pages using perl

2006-07-13 Thread vivek khurana
Hi! all, I am looking for suggestions regarding templating and html page generation tools for perl. What has been user/developer experiences with suggested toolkits. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem.

Re: [ilugd] Call for mentors for Bio-Informatics workshop at JNU

2006-06-21 Thread vivek khurana
you seem to be doing it upside down - wouldnt it be better if you posted the list of students wanting mentors, the work they propose to do and their qualifications and *then* ask for mentors to volunteer? Looks like someone is not following the thread or had too much of daaru :-)

Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-20 Thread vivek khurana
a pain. For my side, I am willing to mentor anyone working on a task related to Indian language computing. Thanks for bringing this up Mary. I would like to Kudos Gora for being a volunteer mentor, i am ready to mentor anyone who is willing to take linux as a hobby. Each one Teach one (or

Re: [ilugd] december meet on 25-12-2005

2005-12-19 Thread vivek khurana
--- Supreet Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestions welcome Can you cover Gnu make, how to generate/buld makefiles etc etc. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. http://creative.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] Book Stores selling Linux Books

2005-12-15 Thread vivek khurana
--- Vipin Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody plz tell which are the best book stores to look for in-depth linux stuff. I mean like kernel/i.o programming in unix etc. Khanna book depot in Nai sarak normally has stock piles of such books. regards VK Engineers normally have

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