- I don't want or need it.
Cheers,
Lee
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From: David Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
No joke. Maybe now I can actually talk boss-man into letting me
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=74773
Who is Rick DeLuco? Did they have beta
testers?
CD Who is Rick DeLuco? Did they have beta testers?
Maybe he bought ICS 3 days ago, implemented it, advertised it to all
his users and is now very happy that he saved so much money.
Matti
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Mit freundlichen Grüssen
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To Unsubscribe:
MH Maybe he bought ICS 3 days ago, implemented it, advertised it to all
MH his users and is now very happy that he saved so much money.
oh... and aditionatly he uses a baracuda Box:
http://comment.cio.com/comments/17530.html
Matti
--
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Matti Haack
mailto:[EMAIL
. I'll have to postpone my load
balance until I tomorrow.
From: Langston, Cale
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:06 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Im also putting SmarterMail through its paces. I
soapbox now.
Larry Morck
Network Admin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Langston, Cale
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:36 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I've gotten SmarterMail
: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I have been trying to keep up with all that has been going on the last
couple of days, and there has been a lot of information. Both good and bad,
I will have to show my naiveté here, but If I am running just a small shop
with 200 users, and IMail
Check this out ... http://www.smartmax.com/mailmax.aspx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che Vilnonis
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
So, what other
: [IMail Forum] Collaboration
is now available :(
Check this out ... http://www.smartmax.com/mailmax.aspx-Original
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On Behalf Of Che VilnonisSent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
RE: [IMail Forum
in how well it runs.
http://merakmailserver.com/Products/Mail_Server_Migration_Tool/
From: Ted Galerneau
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004
5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Collaboration is now available :(
Probably what Ipswitch
Langston, Cale wrote:
It's not difficult at all. Did you see Merak's migration steps? Not
only are you performing a seamless migration, but you're performing an
audit also. Audits were horrid to do in IMail. Merak also provides a
migration tool. I haven't tried the migration on my test box but
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:43 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Check this out ... http://www.smartmax.com/mailmax.aspx
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Che Vilnonis
Sent
Looks good, but I don't see that is support SMTP Authentication
and, at a minimum, with CRAM-MD5. SMTP AUTH plain is stupid.
I bet, with no pleasure at all, that people will appreciate just how solid
basic IMail is as they try to migrate to 2nd and 3rd tier products that
Imail has beaten
a.. SMTP Authentication (login)
with necessary detail/gotcha of CRAM-MD5 ?
Not sure about TLS, but did not see it.
If they have gone to the trouble of providing TLS in their product, it will
be on their features list.
Len
_
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- Original Message -
From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Looks good, but I don't see that is support SMTP Authentication
and, at a minimum, with CRAM-MD5. SMTP AUTH
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite your
face (or Ipswitch).
Only one problem Len, my IMail 7.15 has been and continues to be
broken. I have SMTP service hangs up to 6 times a week sometimes.
Customers are complaining and it is becoming a major hassle. I am
not
: [IMail Forum]
Collaboration is now available :(
It's not difficult at all. Did you see
Merak's migration steps? Not only are you performing a seamless migration, but
you're performing an audit also. Audits were horrid to do in IMail. Merak also
provides a migration tool. I haven't tried
6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Looks good, but I
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite
.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite
Hmmm...we should use either a much more expensive product or a free product,
but not something in the middle? While you are probably entirely correct
regarding these particular products, the logic seems a bit inconsistent.
no, because what is in the middle is probably weaker than Imail, which is
] On Behalf Of Jeff Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite
your face (or Ipswitch).
Only one problem Len, my IMail 7.15 has been
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
So, what other Win-based email programs are there that are affordable?
To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html
List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite your
face (or Ipswitch).
Only one problem Len, my IMail 7.15 has been and continues to be
broken. I have SMTP service hangs up to 6 times a week sometimes.
Customers are complaining and it is becoming a major hassle. I am
not
FYI. I just talked to Customer (no)service and they said we could
return (even activated) sa contracts if less than 30 days old. Just got
my ball rolling back to them through my source (BTW, for me that is Tech
Data, no problem even at the distributor level).
I will not be moving immediately to
There is no doubt that postfix is the best MTA and IMGate uses that,
however, some people may be looking for a one stop solution on a windows
platform. I courage the review of the offerings out there and I hope
they review them in detail as Len, you point out some very good points
below.
Any particular products/versions to be very careful of? You mention one
that sounds like MailMax...
For what it is worth, I had significant stability problems with MailMax when
I inherited a setup about 2 years ago. Feature wise, it didn't light my
fire. Support was reasonably easy to get a
Heritage
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
FYI. I just talked to Customer (no)service and they said we could return
(even activated) sa contracts if less than 30 days old. Just got my ball
rolling back
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 08:14
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite
your
face (or Ipswitch).
Only
Probably one good exercise for this list would be to make a detailed Imail
features list and use that as first level elimination of the others.
This is only part of the story. You would also need to create a detailed
feature list for each of the other products so you can see what IMail is
]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( retrive
passwords
The Passwords are stored in plain text in the database or in a very
simple encryption method in the registry which is something like this:
Convert each letter of the password into the hex version of its ASCII
value
no, because what is in the middle is probably weaker than Imail, which
is at the top, the reason it's been the market leader for Windows
integrated mail software for years.
That WAS certainly the case. However I think Ipswitch got too complacent
and the competition was hungry. Looking at the
hearing real-world experience with alternative products.
Sure, so go follow the mailing lists and list archives for the other
products, can't get much more real world and immediate than that.
Since all mail servers have lost/won clients from other products, I'm sure
there are Imail users in
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite your
face (or Ipswitch).
Only one problem Len, my IMail 7.15 has been and continues to be
broken. I have SMTP
Hi,
Imail 6.06...never hangs up.
Thanks,
Andrew Baldwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.thumpernet.com
315-282-0020
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:14:00 AM, you wrote:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't cut off your nose to spite your
face (or Ipswitch).
Only one problem Len, my IMail
- Original Message -
From: Dave Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:10
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
no, because what is in the middle is probably weaker than Imail, which
is at the top, the reason it's
Only one major problem: the discovery of a single buffer overflow bug can
render your system useless overnight. It generally takes time to plan a
move to an alternate mail server. Once there's no chance of support you're
hosed if someone publishes an exploit.
Other than that if your
it after I confirm
everything is working. Will probably be tomorrow.
From: Ted Galerneau
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004
11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Collaboration is now available :(
I've actually looked into that more
since
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( retrive
passwords
The Passwords are stored in plain text in the database or in a very
simple encryption method in the registry which is something like this:
Convert each letter
I have a box I could setup right away but I would only have 4 drives in
it, so how should I configure it with 4 drives? RAID 5 with 3 containers
for system, log/spool, and mailboxes? or what do you recommend?
his has been beat to death here.
raid5 is slow vs raid1, so if you insisted on RAID,
Bill,
have you tried Smartermail migration tool? In our lab it worked, pretty well
too.
PV
- Original Message -
From: Bill Foresman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
We're
Other than that if your product is orphaned it may well work for a while,
although it won't let you be on the leading edge.
It's already a bit behind
in areas such as SPF, front end RBL and dictionary attack prevention.
But my recommendation of putting IMGate in front of (orphaned) Imail
I can see IMail's point of view. The small and mid-sized ISPs which were
its market are a fading group, or at least one heading towards stasis.
They're not going to shipping many more units out. I guess it's an issue of
try a bold move or fade away. I don't fault them for the ICS release, but I
Well that's poor. It should be non-reversable.
The encoding is meant to discourage casual, non-admin snoopers under
the default ACLs; you can set tighter ACLs, do but obviously the
vectors of password compromise are very wide-ranging once you own the
box and know what you're doing.
A. Clausen wrote:
John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:
I think part of this is probably due to the fact that open source mail
servers are probably looking to kick Ipswitch's a**. Postfix is pretty
easy to set up, though it would be nice if someone would release source
code with SMTP auth support
Did you try the Merak product to see if
they had a migration tool?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Langston, Cale
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004
11:06 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Collaboration is now available
4 drives, safety and speed, most wasteful on space, try raid 10
Len Conrad wrote:
I have a box I could setup right away but I would only have 4 drives in
it, so how should I configure it with 4 drives? RAID 5 with 3 containers
for system, log/spool, and mailboxes? or what do you recommend?
his
Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
A. Clausen wrote:
John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:
I think part of this is probably due to the fact that open source mail
servers are probably looking to kick Ipswitch's a**. Postfix is pretty
easy to set up, though it would be nice if someone
with the rest of their
products rather than just Outlook file sharing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of x
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
A. Clausen wrote:
John
Products like IMail have a market, however, any company/person that
is a bit more technically inclined should be running an all unix
solution, period.
Technical inclination is no predictor of paid free time, making such
declarations useless. This kind of chatter reminds me of those
This stinks!
The irony, of course, is that any corporate or large customer looking for a real
collaboration suite will certainly have Exchange as their first choice.
ICS is not exchange; it doesn't even come close; it might have been a nice little
add-on (some shared calendaring, etc.) for
I recall your post, Gufler - I think that when I saw your
post I did not realize it would REPLACE the stand alone. I
assumed (oops!) that this was a new product - on it's own.
Bhandari and John,
There was maybe too much summary in my last week post. The information I've
received has said
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Lee Heath
Sent: 26. oktober 2004 06:57
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Scott, I'd much rather see Declude use on other servers of your
recommendation or a Declude mail server system. I
The end result is that even if Ipswitch product management
realizes their disastrous mistake, wises up, and recants,
continuing to offer the base product, many customers are now
looking elsewhere that may not have otherwise. So no matter
what happens, Ipswitch will lose sales.
Exactly
(Lists)
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Importance: High
I don't believe this.
Instead of creating an add-on package, the collaboration package is an all
encompassing package, including Imail, Premium Anti
John,
Adding my voice of disappointment brings the total to ah 217.
We have used Imail since December 1997. I guess I need to get everything tweaked and
updated before my current contract expires and spend time afterwards shopping for an
alternative if this decision is the final answer as Regis
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 2004 8:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( voice 217
John,
Adding my voice of disappointment brings the total to ah 217.
We have used Imail since December 1997. I
13:13
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( voice 217
You can add my voice to that as well I have been using Imail for 6 years I
even have the FTP server integrated into it the new arrangement does not
suit me at all.
Regards David Moore
[EMAIL
close to the
above
-Original Message-
From: Oblio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 October 2004 04:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
So, does anyone have a way to retrieve user passwords for a migration?
To Unsubscribe: http
Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Merak looks pretty impressive. Thanks for the lead!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Moody
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
When I called, I was told the response was overwhelmingly positive and
they would not be considering offering imail as a standalone product
For those like us who will be dropping Imail like a brick and looking for a
list of other Windows mail servers, here is afew I know of:
MailEnable Enterprise Edition (US$560 per server)
Release Date: Currently as release candidate
Version: TBA - Note: A discount is provided for the purchase
, October 25, 2004 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available - Options Thread
Good thing I am *still* running Imail 6.06. Its stable and I
have no problems. I was just thinking the other day I need to
upgrade - now I need to find new email server software
] Collaboration is now available thus: Other Windows Mail
Servers
For those like us who will be dropping Imail like a brick and looking for a
list of other Windows mail servers, here is afew I know of:
MailEnable Enterprise Edition (US$560 per server)
Release Date: Currently as release candidate
] Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Just spoke to Ipswitch sales, and though it was a bit of a confused
conversation, this was what I was told:
New sales and existing customer upgrades before
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available thus: Other
Windows Mail Servers
Is there somebody that have tested this one:
http://www.software602.com/products/ls/
?
Med vennlig hilsen
--
Odd-Geir
]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
When I called, I was told the response was overwhelmingly positive and
they would not be considering offering imail as a standalone product.
All the positive folks must be staying silent on the mail list, or Ipswitch
is reading
I for one will be the first to welcome our new sendmail overlords.
Seriously, this sucks.
-Chase
Chase Seibert | Network and Systems Engineer | Bullhorn Inc. | 617.464.2440 x119
| www.bullhorn.com
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
When I called, I was told the response was overwhelmingly positive and
they would not be considering offering imail as a standalone product.
All the positive folks must be staying silent on the mail list, or Ipswitch
2004 15:10
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available thus: Other Windows
Mail Servers
602 does look interesting.
How about this one: http://www.hmailserver.com/
-Paul
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
Paul J. Carmen
New Hartford Public Schools
-Original Message
I spent two years talking my bosses into letting me take over our mail
services from our ISP. It came down to Imail or Exchange. I couldn't really
justify the cost of Exchange so I put all my efforts into convincing them to
let me go with Imail. Now I have to convince them all over again to
Ru forrest. RUN
Thats what I am
planning to do from IMAIL !! Sadly, I inherited a network that has IMAIL
in it, and thought it was a pretty decent product, that was until, this whole
new shafting the customer pricing came around !
Thanks again IPSWITCH
for screwing up a
I'm in a similar boat. We had been on the Sendmail for NT product for a
number of years. When we first purchased Sendmail it was a MetaInfo
product. MetaInfo decided to focus on TCPIP tools and sold Sendmail for NT
to Sendmail (the ubiquitous *NIX mail server producers...) Within a year or
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Could one of those in favor step up and share their thoughts? Unlike when
the web forum was created, all I can read are negative opinions, I would
imagine die-hards would step up to support IPSwitch.
This sucks!
Thank you
Our company has been using Imail since 1996 (version 1, if I
remember correctly.) Due to our own collaboration needs, I installed
Exchange early this year. I looked at Bynaris products (Insight
Server and Insight Connector) and determined that they were terrible in
comparison to Exchange.
Forum] Collaboration is now available
I spent two years talking my bosses into letting me take over our mail
services from our ISP. It came down to Imail or Exchange. I couldn't
really
justify the cost of Exchange so I put all my efforts into convincing them
to
let me go with Imail. Now I have
So far, 216 posts
At one point several years ago, this list had 3 or 4k subscribers, most of
whom were silent, and that was only a tiny portion of the entire number of
Imail clients. Even 500 or a 1000 vocal protesters/deserters here is a
thimbleful vs the installed base/prospects that MUST
enough to someone else for that. Personally, we USED
carrier scan when it was an add on and found it cumbersome and faulty.
- Original Message -
From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now
Sorry, Len, not business, it is very personal to me when I have dumped
thousands personally into Ipswitch in good faith that I would be
investing long-term in a company that would not low ball me and would
always be there for me when I needed them. It is this blatant uncaring
that is so
As this IPSWITCH issue appears to being ignored by the company itself, no
posts yet.
We installed
Merak Mail Server Software, this morning in about 8 minutes. Have 2 of our
180 domains running on it for now.
So far this product is very impressive.
I am not very pleased with the current Imail
I'm reviewing Merak, and Kerio at the moment.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available thus: Other
Windows Mail Servers
As this IPSWITCH issue
Damn that's a good point.
-Original Message-
From: Doug Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
All very true Len, but there's something that IPSwitch isn't counting
At 09:51 AM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
So far, 216 posts
At one point several years ago, this list had 3 or 4k subscribers, most of whom were
silent, and that was only a tiny portion of the entire number of Imail clients. Even
500 or a 1000 vocal protesters/deserters here is a thimbleful vs the
What do you recommend for POP/SMTP with Auth ?
I think IPSwitch is shooting themself the foot.
Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:51:33 AM, Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far, 216 posts
LC At one point several years ago, this list had 3 or 4k subscribers, most of
LC whom were silent, and
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available thus: Other Win
dows Mail Servers
I'm reviewing Merak, and Kerio at the moment.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail
x wrote:
IPSwitch is following down the path of Gordano. I have had to jump ship
several times now. When post.office screwed their customers I moved to
NTMail, when NTMail screwed their customers I moved to IMail...now
IPSwitch is screwing their customers...time to evaluate the options out
It is business. It is just bad business (a la we don't care about the
customers that made us).
R. Lee Heath wrote:
Sorry, Len, not business, it is very personal to me when I have dumped
thousands personally into Ipswitch in good faith that I would be
investing long-term in a company that
Sorry. Not if you purchased it personally and not your business.
--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com
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x It is business. It is just bad business (a la we don't care about the
x customers that made us).
To Unsubscribe:
of Education
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oblio
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
So, does anyone have a way to retrieve user passwords for a migration
. 99281
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available
: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Our contract will not be up until next april so as to Whatsup.
there are other solutions to whatsup, IPSwitch is coming with whatsup pro
which I can tell you is nice but coming from a company with unexpected
changes and lack of customer awareness, I
http://www.activxperts.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
This really bothers me, why wasn't I told
] On Behalf Of Jacques Brouwers
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I use servers alive. It is free for up to 10 servers and loaded with
features!
http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/
Jacques
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Hello Lee,
I also take it personal and echo your comments...
One thing I have not seen on this list yet is the fact that they will loose sales on their other products. We host about 1000 users and all of them use ipswitch FTP clients that we told them to purchase. We will be sending out a
] On Behalf Of Jacques Brouwers
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
I use servers alive. It is free for up to 10 servers and loaded with
features!
http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/
Jacques
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, 2004 10:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Our contract will not be up until next april so as to Whatsup.
there are other solutions to whatsup, IPSwitch is coming with whatsup pro
which I can tell you is nice but coming from a company
] Collaboration is now available :(
Well just broke the news to my boss. He asked me to start looking for a
replacement for IMail and WSFTP.
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From: Troy D. Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum
Marketing people suck...
They give us TV commercials, radio commercials, bill boards, SPAM and
advertisements where ever they can weasel them in, now they are giving us
bad software solutions.
I just spoke with a nice lady in the Sales Department and she said this
decision was based on Market
vegne av Katherine Kennedy
Sendt: 25. oktober 2004 20:03
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Emne: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
One thing is for certain. If I can't purchase the imail server
separately, I will be going somewhere else.
Katherine Kennedy
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