Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-18 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 07/15/2014 10:41 PM, Dimitris Glezos wrote: The data we have is that very few people used (and use) the open-source version of Transifex. Some of those who did, were using an even older version of Transifex (0.9) which we weren't actively maintaining. We have asked around and carefully revie

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-16 Thread Noriko Mizumoto
If so, is that moving to an existing zanata instance that is being run for us? Or is that talking about fedora infrastructure creating such an instance? I've added this item in the list [1], and will keep you in the loop. ok. Kevin, I had the meetup with zanata team. The instance is creat

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-15 Thread Dimitris Glezos
Hi Miroslav, The data we have is that very few people used (and use) the open-source version of Transifex. Some of those who did, were using an even older version of Transifex (0.9) which we weren't actively maintaining. We have asked around and carefully reviewed whether a move like this will hav

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:23:00 +1000 Noriko Mizumoto wrote: > (2014年07月12日 03:20), Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 > > Noriko Mizumoto wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > >> Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for > >> some maintenance reason, can w

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-14 Thread Tommy He
Hi, Maybe it was mentioned before but are we really going to migrate to Zanata before F21 release? I saw the high level schedule on Wiki[1]. As a lot of new things and changes coming to F21, I'm kind of hoping not rushing migration before F21. Just play safe, we can start migration afterwards. H

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-14 Thread Noriko Mizumoto
(2014年07月12日 03:20), Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 Noriko Mizumoto wrote: ...snip... Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for some maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of translators have not subscribed infrastructure

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-13 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi all, On 07/11/2014 10:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 Noriko Mizumoto wrote: ...snip... Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for some maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of translators have not subscribed inf

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-11 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
Kevin, I believe that migration will occur was created a plan [1], but I believe the others in CC's will provide you with more precise information about where this running this current instance of Zanata [2], I only realized in the production url he suffered an update to its latest version. [1

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:48:42 +1000 Noriko Mizumoto wrote: ...snip... > Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for > some maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of > translators have not subscribed infrastructure list? Thats fine with me for the mo

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-11 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
t; > Carlos A. Munoz > Software Engineering Supervisor > Engineering - Internationalization > Red Hat > > - Original Message - > From: "Noriko Mizumoto" > To: "Marcelo Barbosa" > Cc: "Fedora Infrastructure" , > "Fedora Trans

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-11 Thread Isaac Rooskov
t;Fedora Infrastructure" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 1:41:13 PM Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary Guys, We may collect the Transifex all Coordinators, Reviewers and Translators through the API, for example: $ curl -i -L --user username:password -X GET https://www.transifex.com/

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-11 Thread Carlos Munoz
Regards, Carlos A. Munoz Software Engineering Supervisor Engineering - Internationalization Red Hat - Original Message - From: "Noriko Mizumoto" To: "Marcelo Barbosa" Cc: "Fedora Infrastructure" , "Fedora Translation Project List" Sent: Friday

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Noriko Mizumoto
inal Message - From: "Kevin Fenzi" mailto:ke...@scrye.com>> To: infrastructure@lists.__fedoraproject.org <mailto:infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM Subject: Re: Transife

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
gt; > > > (2014年07月10日 22:01), Robyn Bergeron wrote: > >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Kevin Fenzi" >>> To: infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM >>> Subject: Re: Transi

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Noriko Mizumoto
Bergeron wrote: - Original Message - From: "Kevin Fenzi" To: infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahu

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
presents a > small improvement will be very welcome. > > Best regards. > > firemanxbr > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> > From: "Kevin Fenzi" >> > To:

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Marcel Ribeiro Dantas
As Marcelo just stated, we have had our struggles with Transifex. A while ago, we came up as the coordinators of the localization team in Brazil, having a wider understanding of what Transifex meant from above. It is really sad that we depend on it, for it is non-free software, but being really hon

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
Zoltan, I believe we can do some tests with the Zanata in order to validate the tool and look for little impact as possible. I came in with my account at FAS and I realized the error quoted here on the list, after adopting my FAS been redirected to this address: https://translate.zanata.org/zanat

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Marcelo Barbosa
-- Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Fenzi" > > To: infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM > > Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary > > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200 > > Pierre-

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-10 Thread Robyn Bergeron
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Fenzi" > To: infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM > Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200 > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > >

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-07 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 07/03/2014 04:20 PM, Dimitris Glezos wrote: It's a good thing that this came up, it'd be nice to have a clear decision from the Fedora part. I explained in detail the log & reasoning behind the decision to stop maintaining the open-source branch in the GitHub issue Rahul provided. Dimitris

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-07 Thread tiansworld
I support moving away from TX if it prevents us from obeying our 4Fs. But as a long term translator and a team coordinator, please allow me to say something that I'm concerning about: 1. If we decide to move, what platform should we move to? Which is a better place to move? I haven't use Zanata b

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-06 Thread Marco Grigull
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/07/14 02:53, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200 Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves ChibonA wrote:

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-05 Thread Robert Mayr
Il 04/lug/2014 10:12 "Pierre-Yves Chibon" ha scritto: > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Hi > > > >On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves ChibonA wrote: > > > > What are they? > > > >I haven't spent a lot of time looking up alternatives b

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-04 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 03 juillet 2014 à 18:22 +0400, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > 2014-07-03 18:09 GMT+04:00 Rahul Sundaram : > > Hi > > > > Unfortunately it looks like Transifex has become proprietary and Fedora > > moving to using Transifex.com has been cited as one of the reasons

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Hi > > > >On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves ChibonA wrote: > > > > What are they? > > > >I haven't spent a lot of time looking up altern

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-04 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >Hi > >On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves ChibonA wrote: > > What are they? > >I haven't spent a lot of time looking up alternatives but I am aware of >the following: > >http://zanata.org/ develo

RE: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-04 Thread Oliver Falk
obile) From: infrastructure-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:infrastructure-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Dimitris Glezos Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:09 AM To: Fedora Infrastructure Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary Oliver, Transifex is already offer

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Dimitris Glezos
infrastructure-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Dimitris > Glezos > *Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:21 PM > *To:* Fedora Infrastructure > *Subject:* Re: Transifex has become proprietary > > > > > > It's a good thing that this came up, it'd

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, On 07/03/2014 07:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: What are they? I haven't spent a lot of time looking up alternatives but I am aware of the following: http://zanata.org/ developed by Red Hat If we are looking for alter

RE: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Oliver Falk
, Oliver From: infrastructure-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:infrastructure-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Dimitris Glezos Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:21 PM To: Fedora Infrastructure Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary It's a good thing that

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > What are they? > I haven't spent a lot of time looking up alternatives but I am aware of the following: http://zanata.org/ developed by Red Hat Translatewiki which is apparently what MediaGoblin is considering https://issues.me

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Kévin Raymond
>> Should we consider alternatives? > > Why should we? A vast majority of us are happy GitHub / Facebook / > Twitter / Google users and it's a happy marriage so far (at least for > GitHub). We should clearly distinguish between a service / API and a > data - an openness of a service is entirely dif

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2014-07-03 18:09 GMT+04:00 Rahul Sundaram : > Hi > > Unfortunately it looks like Transifex has become proprietary and Fedora > moving to using Transifex.com has been cited as one of the reasons why it > wasn't important anymore for them to maintain a open source version. &g

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Dimitris Glezos
to be donating one of the bigger plans to Fedora for free (which supports sharing of teams, Transl. Memory and glossary between teams), and we'll continue to do so. -d On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > Unfortunately it looks like Transifex has b

Re: Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:09:05AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >Hi > >Unfortunately it looks like Transifex has become proprietary and Fedora >moving to using Transifex.com has been cited as one of the reasons why it >wasn't important anymore for them to ma

Transifex has become proprietary

2014-07-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Unfortunately it looks like Transifex has become proprietary and Fedora moving to using Transifex.com has been cited as one of the reasons why it wasn't important anymore for them to maintain a open source version. https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues/206#issuecomment-152