Re: [PHP-DEV] Community vote on RFCs

2020-08-21 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Den fre. 21. aug. 2020 kl. 09.03 skrev Brent Roose : > What about people who occasionaly contribute to docs? Are they more eligable > to vote than someone like Nicalos Grekas? It's a good thing he got voting > rights, but in my mind that should have been a no-brainer. I realise some > people

[PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0.0 Beta 2 Ready for Testing

2020-08-21 Thread Sara Golemon
Apologies for being a day late, but PHP 8.0.0beta2 has just been released and can be downloaded from https://downloads.php.net/~pollita Or using the git tag: `php-8.0.0beta2` Windows binaries are available at https://windows.php.net/qa Please test it carefully, and report any bugs in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Support PAM in PHP8

2020-08-21 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 4:19 PM Volker Theile < volker.the...@openmediavault.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > i've opened the tracker issue https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80004 > which requests Linux PAM (pluggable authentication modules) support in > PHP8. IMO PAM is an essential feature that is

[PHP-DEV] Should hash comments be deprecated?

2020-08-21 Thread Theodore Brown
Hi internals, Since the #[] attribute syntax is currently winning the vote, [1] it makes me wonder if the use of comments starting with # should be deprecated. Otherwise it seems like we could be setting ourselves up for long-term confusion between attributes and comments, and also inconsistency

[PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

2020-08-21 Thread Paul M. Jones
Hi everyone -- 1. Did anyone else here get this message (below) from Derick yesterday? 2. Maybe I missed something -- why was the vote reset? > > From: Derick Rethans > Subject: Attribute Syntax Revote > Date: August 20, 2020 at 10:36:36 CDT > To: Derick Rethans > > Hi! > > I'm reaching

Re: [PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

2020-08-21 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
It was stopped and reset last week, because it was started too early. I remember that you were one of the people to request this :-) See my explanation here https://externals.io/message/111416#111553 On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:12 PM Paul M. Jones wrote: > Hi everyone -- > > 1. Did anyone else

Re: [PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

2020-08-21 Thread Paul M. Jones
Hi all, > On Aug 21, 2020, at 08:23, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > It was stopped and reset last week, because it was started too early. Ah, I see -- I received the message I quoted *after* I placed a vote yesterday, so I thought it had been reset *yet again*. Glad that I was wrong ... > I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

2020-08-21 Thread Gabriel Caruso
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 15:12, Paul M. Jones wrote: > Hi everyone -- > > 1. Did anyone else here get this message (below) from Derick yesterday? > > 2. Maybe I missed something -- why was the vote reset? > Yeah, you missed quite a lot. Please, check https://externals.io/message/111630,

[PHP-DEV] Support PAM in PHP8

2020-08-21 Thread Volker Theile
Hi all, i've opened the tracker issue https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80004 which requests Linux PAM (pluggable authentication modules) support in PHP8. IMO PAM is an essential feature that is required by professional applications. Sadly the PECL extension https://pecl.php.net/package/PAM is not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Attribute Syntax Revote

2020-08-21 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:36 PM Paul M. Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > On Aug 21, 2020, at 08:23, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > It was stopped and reset last week, because it was started too early. > > > Ah, I see -- I received the message I quoted *after* I placed a vote > yesterday, so I thought it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Community vote on RFCs

2020-08-21 Thread Matthew Brown
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 01:42, Sergey Panteleev wrote: > Hi, Benjamin, > > I think Nikita's suggestion is suitable for these purposes: > https://github.com/php/php-rfcs. > > At the moment this is an experimental repository, but in this case, it > will be quite possible to get feedback from the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Support PAM in PHP8

2020-08-21 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi Volker, On 21/08/2020 16:19, Volker Theile wrote: > Hi all, > > i've opened the tracker issue https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80004 > which requests Linux PAM (pluggable authentication modules) support in > PHP8. IMO PAM is an essential feature that is required by professional > applications.

[PHP-DEV] Re: Should hash comments be deprecated?

2020-08-21 Thread tyson andre
Hi Theodore, > Since the #[] attribute syntax is currently winning the vote, [1] > it makes me wonder if the use of comments starting with # should be > deprecated. > > Otherwise it seems like we could be setting ourselves up for long-term > confusion between attributes and comments, and also

[PHP-DEV] Re: Should hash comments be deprecated?

2020-08-21 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi, Theodore Brown wrote: Hi internals, Since the #[] attribute syntax is currently winning the vote, [1] it makes me wonder if the use of comments starting with # should be deprecated. Otherwise it seems like we could be setting ourselves up for long-term confusion between attributes and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Should hash comments be deprecated?

2020-08-21 Thread Ilija Tovilo
Hi Andrea > There is a critical use-case for comments beginning with the hash > symbol, namely UNIX shebang lines. In theory we could special-case those > and disallow the symbol in every other use, but… well, that seems like a > bit of a shame. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the shebang goes

[PHP-DEV] Re: Should hash comments be deprecated?

2020-08-21 Thread Mark Randall
On 21/08/2020 18:28, Theodore Brown wrote: Since the #[] attribute syntax is currently winning the vote, [1] it makes me wonder if the use of comments starting with # should be deprecated. I've mentioned this myself in R11 a few times and was planning on bringing this up to a vote myself as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Community vote on RFCs

2020-08-21 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! > How many people have voting rights? Over 200 if I'm not mistaken? How > many of those have been activly contributing to PHP for over the past > year? I think that's a better question to answer. If half of those > people's voting rights get revoked then maybe there's room to allow a > few

Re: [PHP-DEV] Support PAM in PHP8

2020-08-21 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 21/08/2020 15:19, Volker Theile wrote: IMO PAM is an essential feature that is required by professional applications. Sadly the PECL extensionhttps://pecl.php.net/package/PAM is not maintained anymore and can't be used in PHP7 without patching it. According to that PECL listing, the last

Re: [PHP-DEV] Support PAM in PHP8

2020-08-21 Thread Volker Theile
> Do you see yourself taking over the maintainership by any chance? apply the patches for PHP 7 compatibility and work on PHP 8? Sorry, i don't think so because i have to maintain my own OSS project that requires enough of my attention and free time. I simply want to consume the PAM feature.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Community vote on RFCs

2020-08-21 Thread Brent Roose
Hi Kalle, all > Anyone who is not actively involved with the PHP project, is not > someone I can feel safe with granting the right to vote. Just want to point out that there are lots of people eligable to vote who are not actively involved with PHP development at the moment. There has even