Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Stan Vassilev | FM
Hi, A vote in support of short tags, although last time I checked they were not removed in PHP6 (and I hate to see this brought up once more). On top of that, the supposed XML conflict argument is not fully thought through, since full PHP tags are not XML compliant either: ?php echo ?; ? In

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Stan Vassilev | FM wrote: Hi, A vote in support of short tags, although last time I checked they were not removed in PHP6 (and I hate to see this brought up once more). On top of that, the supposed XML conflict argument is not fully thought through, since full PHP tags are not XML compliant

[PHP-DEV] Test doggy-bag

2009-04-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
Some tests leave this crap behind: ? array_count_file ? tests/output/ob_start_basic_unerasable_005.php ? tests/security/magic_quotes_gpc.php Might be related to that all tests fail currently.. :) --Jani -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Glen
I'm not suggesting anyone be forced to do anything. But: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ? ... %= $this-that; % Looks neater than: ?= '?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?'; ? ... ?= $this-that; ? Hence my suggestion. Glen. Mike Panchenko wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Stanislav

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Glen
Thanks for the information, Philip. I hereby summon the BDFL ... erm, no pressure. :-) I really think ASP/JSP tags could be the answer. Glen. Philip Olson wrote: Today this topic may be the cloudiest and most heated in all of PHP. Here's the factual history of our poor little short_open_tag

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Glen
Which horse are you referring to exactly? Jani Taskinen wrote: PLEASE, let the dead horse be! --Jani Glen wrote: Right, but at the moment something like: ?$this-that;? .. works. i.e. no whitespace after the opening tag. Changing this would most likely break a fair amount of code.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Glen
Why such a complicated-looking thing (that breaks syntax-highlighting, at least in my IDE), when you can just use: ?= '?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?'; ? Or turn short_open_tag off (and asp_tags on), and use: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ? ... %= $this-that; % Glen. Kenan Sulayman

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
PLEASE, let the dead horse be! --Jani Glen wrote: Right, but at the moment something like: ?$this-that;? .. works. i.e. no whitespace after the opening tag. Changing this would most likely break a fair amount of code. Glen. Evert | Filemobile wrote: On 13-Apr-09, at 4:06 PM, Stanislav

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Glen
I didn't say PHP tags were valid XML. I said short_open_tag conflicts with ?xml and other PIs. % is not valid XML either, but it doesn't conflict with processing instructions. Glen. Stan Vassilev | FM wrote: Hi, A vote in support of short tags, although last time I checked they were not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Mikko Koppanen
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Glen glen...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't say PHP tags were valid XML. I said short_open_tag conflicts with ?xml and other PIs. % is not valid XML either, but it doesn't conflict with processing instructions. Glen. Hello Glen, posting to mailing-lists is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Arvids Godjuks
Hello everyone. I've been writing ?php echo get('something')? for some time now at the last project and it really sucks. I understand reason on depricating short_open_tag and I agree. But I have a proposal witch can ease templating. Remove short open tag, but leave ?=get('blah')?. Bacicaly PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread David Zülke
As Jani put it: PLEASE, let the dead horse be! - David On 14.04.2009, at 17:11, Arvids Godjuks wrote: Hello everyone. I've been writing ?php echo get('something')? for some time now at the last project and it really sucks. I understand reason on depricating short_open_tag and I agree.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Krenz
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:11:10PM GMT, Arvids Godjuks [arvids.godj...@gmail.com] said the following: Yes, it's really irritating to write ?php echo every time! Until you get used to it. I started with PHP back in 98 and remember a bit of resistance in learning the ?php thing, but I knew it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! PLEASE, let the dead horse be! Apparently, this horse is not as dead as some would like it to be :) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect s...@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: s...@zend.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Olson
PLEASE, let the dead horse be! Apparently, this horse is not as dead as some would like it to be :) The horse is not dead or if so then no proper burial service was given. People are still waiting for the invitations and wanting to hear the eulogy. So, instead I'll make the following

[PHP-DEV] proposed fix for ext/filter crash (bug #47930)

2009-04-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! I was looking at how to fix #47930 and unfortunately due to the fact that ext/filter is called before it's initialized as an extension, the only fix that I could think of requires change in the API. Please see attached. Please tell me if anybody sees any problem with it. -- Stanislav

[PHP-DEV] Re: Support for Transfer-Encoding: chunked in http stream wrapper

2009-04-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! The attached patch implements automatic decoding of chunked transfer-encoding. From what I see in the patch, it requires chunked data prefix to be: XXX\r\n where XXX are from 1 to 3 hex digits. However RFC 2616 defines chunk size as arbitrarily long sequence of HEX digits, and also

[PHP-DEV] Re: Support for Transfer-Encoding: chunked in http stream wrapper

2009-04-14 Thread Sara Golemon
The attached patch implements automatic decoding of chunked transfer-encoding. Any objections against committing the patch into PHP_5_3? I didn't have objections when I offered this filter several years ago, and I still don't. I do recall Andi (or perhaps it was someone else) saying it was