[IRCA] 1610 "booming" into Victoria

[Walter Salmaniw]

CHHA Voces Latinas I'm hearing at the best levels ever at 06:30 UTC
tonight.  Listed as 6.25 kW and totally dominating the channel.  Normally I
have terrible splatter from Blaine on 1600, but tonight my North directed
corner fed loop is performing admirably.  My other antennas are favouring
the WA based TIS.  Very nice reception, indeed, with lots of ads and IDs,
and Latin music.  Enjoy it while you can!   73,Walt
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[IRCA] vanishing Alberta TA carriers

[Nigel Pimblett]

A fair carrier on 1566 this evening.   Also weaker ones on 
1413,1386,783.   Any audio seems quite unlikely though.


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB

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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2017 Jan 30 0005 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 29 January follow.
Solar flux 77 and estimated planetary A-index 7.
The estimated planetary K-index at  UTC on 30 January was 1.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 28   28   28   28   28   29   29   29   29   29   29   29   29   30
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 
SFlx 80   80   80   80   79   79   79   79   79   79   79   79   77   77
A-in 21   21   21   21   9999999997
K-in 21112333212221
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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[IRCA] LW BC

[Richard N Allen]

Medi 1 heard here on 171 kHz with poor signal strength at 0035 GMT.  

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA,
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Re: [IRCA] off grid noise

[Walter Salmaniw]

You are, of course, correct Chuck.  I'm impressed that your link shows that
some companies actually care about RFI.  Nice to see, for sure!  One day,
it'll come to Masset!   73,...Walt

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Walt:
>
>
> The electronics is a small part of the tens of thousands and it causes the
> interference, not the actual solar array.
>
>
> As mentioned, some manufacturers are well aware of the problem and claim
> to be successful at reducing / eliminating it.
>
>
> https://www.solar-electric.com/reducing-electromagnetic-
> interference-pv-systems.html is an example.
>
>
> I'd talk to them an others if I were you.
>
>
> Chuck
>
> How To Reduce Electromagnetic Interference in Solar Systems<
> https://www.solar-electric.com/reducing-electromagnetic-interference-
> pv-systems.html>
> www.solar-electric.com
> Reducing Electronic Interference in Solar Electric Systems. This
> information is mainly aimed at reducing or eliminating radio, TV, cell
> phone, and other electronic ...
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw <
> can...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:53 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] off grid noise
>
> Noted, Chuck.  You can imagine, though, if after 10s of thousands of $
> spent, only to find an increase in noise as a result.  At best, there'd be
> no worsening of noise.  Still, 50/50 isn't good enough at my end,but I'm
> glad to hear there is hope for low/no noise sources!  I'd like to think of
> myself as very green, so one day,Walt
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
> > Walt:
> >
> >
> > I'd check around before writing off solar array chargers. They're just
> > like any other switching power supply that takes in voltage A and
> converts
> > it to voltage B.
> >
> >
> > And just like 12 VDC to 110AC inverters, some are noisy and some are
> > quiet. It is popssible to find inverters that are quiet and sometimes the
> > manufacturer will advertise that. My Monster Power inverter was such a
> case
> > - it was designed to be quiet and it was.
> >
> >
> > I'd check out the solar arrays and see if you can stumble on one
> > specifically designed to be quiet. Then you'll have at least a 50/50
> chance
> > of sucess...
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [IRCA] off grid noise

[Chuck Hutton]

Walt:


The electronics is a small part of the tens of thousands and it causes the 
interference, not the actual solar array.


As mentioned, some manufacturers are well aware of the problem and claim to be 
successful at reducing / eliminating it.


https://www.solar-electric.com/reducing-electromagnetic-interference-pv-systems.html
 is an example.


I'd talk to them an others if I were you.


Chuck

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From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw 

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:53 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] off grid noise

Noted, Chuck.  You can imagine, though, if after 10s of thousands of $
spent, only to find an increase in noise as a result.  At best, there'd be
no worsening of noise.  Still, 50/50 isn't good enough at my end,but I'm
glad to hear there is hope for low/no noise sources!  I'd like to think of
myself as very green, so one day,Walt

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Walt:
>
>
> I'd check around before writing off solar array chargers. They're just
> like any other switching power supply that takes in voltage A and converts
> it to voltage B.
>
>
> And just like 12 VDC to 110AC inverters, some are noisy and some are
> quiet. It is popssible to find inverters that are quiet and sometimes the
> manufacturer will advertise that. My Monster Power inverter was such a case
> - it was designed to be quiet and it was.
>
>
> I'd check out the solar arrays and see if you can stumble on one
> specifically designed to be quiet. Then you'll have at least a 50/50 chance
> of sucess...
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] off grid noise

[Walter Salmaniw]

Noted, Chuck.  You can imagine, though, if after 10s of thousands of $
spent, only to find an increase in noise as a result.  At best, there'd be
no worsening of noise.  Still, 50/50 isn't good enough at my end,but I'm
glad to hear there is hope for low/no noise sources!  I'd like to think of
myself as very green, so one day,Walt

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Walt:
>
>
> I'd check around before writing off solar array chargers. They're just
> like any other switching power supply that takes in voltage A and converts
> it to voltage B.
>
>
> And just like 12 VDC to 110AC inverters, some are noisy and some are
> quiet. It is popssible to find inverters that are quiet and sometimes the
> manufacturer will advertise that. My Monster Power inverter was such a case
> - it was designed to be quiet and it was.
>
>
> I'd check out the solar arrays and see if you can stumble on one
> specifically designed to be quiet. Then you'll have at least a 50/50 chance
> of sucess...
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Chuck Hutton]

Walt:


I'd check around before writing off solar array chargers. They're just like any 
other switching power supply that takes in voltage A and converts it to voltage 
B.


And just like 12 VDC to 110AC inverters, some are noisy and some are quiet. It 
is popssible to find inverters that are quiet and sometimes the manufacturer 
will advertise that. My Monster Power inverter was such a case - it was 
designed to be quiet and it was.


I'd check out the solar arrays and see if you can stumble on one specifically 
designed to be quiet. Then you'll have at least a 50/50 chance of sucess...


Chuck



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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

Colin, I've thought about solar arrays, too, both in Victoria and in
Masset, but the RFI risks are simply too great, especially for Masset.  The
power has to be stored somewhere, and it's the inverters that scares the
bejesus out of me.  Otherwise, I'd embrace them immediately!
Unfortunately, things can change on a dime, and unless you live a long way
from any neighbours, we're all at risk.  I think that in Victoria, Nick was
the first of us to experience the local noise problems over the years.  I
was lucky in Oak Bay for the 20 years we lived there, relatively RFI free,
but sure experience it now a lot in Fairfield.  I suspect someone in the
immediate neighbourhood has those darn Wi-Fi extenders via BPL.  Ugly to
look at the spectrum and see similar buzzes, often a lot closer together
than even 100 kHz.  I'm not sure whether bigger and higher antennas are the
answer.  Won't they just pick up and amplify the noise even more???   73,
 Walt

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:29 PM, R. Colin Newell 
wrote:

> Why I don't get out of bed for audio traces -
>
> Sleep is more therapeutic.
>
> On a QRM side bar, tracked down a huge source of daytime RFI to a
> neighbors solar array inverter that blasts the MW and HF spectrum with a
> buzz every 100 kHz or so.
>
> We are very good neighbors and he was quite upset to discover that his
> house was the source of disruptive interference.
>
> My attitude is: if neighbors are going to interfere with my hobby, I'm
> just going to build bigger and higher antennas.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Nigel Pimblett  wrote:
> >
> > A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and DU,
> though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:
> >
> >
> > 11164BCBrisbane, AUSTRALIATraces of song by Lionel Richie at
> 1435. Confirmed on webstream..
> >
> > 1575VOAThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.
> >
> >
> > I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially
> on the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also had
> audio on several others.
> >
> >
> > Nigel Pimblett
> > Dunmore, AB
> > Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Walter Salmaniw]

Thanks for that information, Don.  So there are solar arrays that can be
quiet.  My concern would be that if I installed such beasts at my
locations, it'd be done commercially, and I wouldn't know whether there'd
be any RFI until after the fact.  I'm sure the contractor would have no
idea, nor care about such "trivial" matters.  As for 200 new homes, that IS
worrisome.  Heck, for Colin in Victoria, his RFI changed as soon as 2 new
homes went in across the street!   73,...Walt
PS, where are all these people coming from???   We see the same urban
sprawl all over Victoria, where every possible square meter of land is
being built upon.  Gone were the days when there was no such thing as
travel delays here!  It surely is not improving overall quality of life,
IMHO.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Don Moman VE6JY  wrote:

> I have about 7 kw of solar installed here Walt, with almost no interference
> issues.  But no charge controllers are used and the inverters are actually
> APC brand UPS's.
>
> And I also have some Dlink PowerLine extenders (DHP-306av) in use, one
> circuit passes within a few feet of the Wellbrook loop and causes no issues
> at all.
>
> I have a potential 200 home subdivision planned on my northern boundary (I
> see some survey stakes already in place) so I'm not looking forward to that
> - on so many levels.
>
> 73 Don
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>
> > Colin, I've thought about solar arrays, too, both in Victoria and in
> > Masset, but the RFI risks are simply too great, especially for Masset.
> The
> > power has to be stored somewhere, and it's the inverters that scares the
> > bejesus out of me.  Otherwise, I'd embrace them immediately!
> > Unfortunately, things can change on a dime, and unless you live a long
> way
> > from any neighbours, we're all at risk.  I think that in Victoria, Nick
> was
> > the first of us to experience the local noise problems over the years.  I
> > was lucky in Oak Bay for the 20 years we lived there, relatively RFI
> free,
> > but sure experience it now a lot in Fairfield.  I suspect someone in the
> > immediate neighbourhood has those darn Wi-Fi extenders via BPL.  Ugly to
> > look at the spectrum and see similar buzzes, often a lot closer together
> > than even 100 kHz.  I'm not sure whether bigger and higher antennas are
> the
> > answer.  Won't they just pick up and amplify the noise even more???   73,
> >  Walt
> >
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 ... showing up in Michigan.  171 & 252

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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Don Moman VE6JY]

I have about 7 kw of solar installed here Walt, with almost no interference
issues.  But no charge controllers are used and the inverters are actually
APC brand UPS's.

And I also have some Dlink PowerLine extenders (DHP-306av) in use, one
circuit passes within a few feet of the Wellbrook loop and causes no issues
at all.

I have a potential 200 home subdivision planned on my northern boundary (I
see some survey stakes already in place) so I'm not looking forward to that
- on so many levels.

73 Don

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:

> Colin, I've thought about solar arrays, too, both in Victoria and in
> Masset, but the RFI risks are simply too great, especially for Masset.  The
> power has to be stored somewhere, and it's the inverters that scares the
> bejesus out of me.  Otherwise, I'd embrace them immediately!
> Unfortunately, things can change on a dime, and unless you live a long way
> from any neighbours, we're all at risk.  I think that in Victoria, Nick was
> the first of us to experience the local noise problems over the years.  I
> was lucky in Oak Bay for the 20 years we lived there, relatively RFI free,
> but sure experience it now a lot in Fairfield.  I suspect someone in the
> immediate neighbourhood has those darn Wi-Fi extenders via BPL.  Ugly to
> look at the spectrum and see similar buzzes, often a lot closer together
> than even 100 kHz.  I'm not sure whether bigger and higher antennas are the
> answer.  Won't they just pick up and amplify the noise even more???   73,
>  Walt
>
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Walter Salmaniw]

Colin, I've thought about solar arrays, too, both in Victoria and in
Masset, but the RFI risks are simply too great, especially for Masset.  The
power has to be stored somewhere, and it's the inverters that scares the
bejesus out of me.  Otherwise, I'd embrace them immediately!
Unfortunately, things can change on a dime, and unless you live a long way
from any neighbours, we're all at risk.  I think that in Victoria, Nick was
the first of us to experience the local noise problems over the years.  I
was lucky in Oak Bay for the 20 years we lived there, relatively RFI free,
but sure experience it now a lot in Fairfield.  I suspect someone in the
immediate neighbourhood has those darn Wi-Fi extenders via BPL.  Ugly to
look at the spectrum and see similar buzzes, often a lot closer together
than even 100 kHz.  I'm not sure whether bigger and higher antennas are the
answer.  Won't they just pick up and amplify the noise even more???   73,
 Walt

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:29 PM, R. Colin Newell 
wrote:

> Why I don't get out of bed for audio traces -
>
> Sleep is more therapeutic.
>
> On a QRM side bar, tracked down a huge source of daytime RFI to a
> neighbors solar array inverter that blasts the MW and HF spectrum with a
> buzz every 100 kHz or so.
>
> We are very good neighbors and he was quite upset to discover that his
> house was the source of disruptive interference.
>
> My attitude is: if neighbors are going to interfere with my hobby, I'm
> just going to build bigger and higher antennas.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Nigel Pimblett  wrote:
> >
> > A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and DU,
> though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:
> >
> >
> > 11164BCBrisbane, AUSTRALIATraces of song by Lionel Richie at
> 1435. Confirmed on webstream..
> >
> > 1575VOAThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.
> >
> >
> > I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially
> on the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also had
> audio on several others.
> >
> >
> > Nigel Pimblett
> > Dunmore, AB
> > Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Thats a real smart idea.. NOT

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Mark Durenberger 
wrote:

> Build the antennas so big they're physically threatening to the neighbors.
> Show them the rip-cord you can pull to 'accidentally' topple them into
> their yard.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Durenberger
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: R. Colin Newell
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:29 PM
> To: n.pimbl...@gmail.com ; Mailing list for the International Radio Club
> of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017
>
> Why I don't get out of bed for audio traces -
>
> Sleep is more therapeutic.
>
> On a QRM side bar, tracked down a huge source of daytime RFI to a
> neighbors solar array inverter that blasts the MW and HF spectrum with a
> buzz every 100 kHz or so.
>
> We are very good neighbors and he was quite upset to discover that his
> house was the source of disruptive interference.
>
> My attitude is: if neighbors are going to interfere with my hobby, I'm
> just going to build bigger and higher antennas.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Nigel Pimblett  wrote:
>>
>> A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and DU,
>> though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:
>>
>>
>> 11164BCBrisbane, AUSTRALIATraces of song by Lionel Richie at
>> 1435. Confirmed on webstream..
>>
>> 1575VOAThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.
>>
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially
>> on the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also had
>> audio on several others.
>>
>>
>> Nigel Pimblett
>> Dunmore, AB
>> Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Mark Durenberger]

Build the antennas so big they're physically threatening to the neighbors. 
Show them the rip-cord you can pull to 'accidentally' topple them into their 
yard.



Regards,

Mark Durenberger



-Original Message- 
From: R. Colin Newell

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:29 PM
To: n.pimbl...@gmail.com ; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of 
America

Subject: Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

Why I don't get out of bed for audio traces -

Sleep is more therapeutic.

On a QRM side bar, tracked down a huge source of daytime RFI to a neighbors 
solar array inverter that blasts the MW and HF spectrum with a buzz every 
100 kHz or so.


We are very good neighbors and he was quite upset to discover that his house 
was the source of disruptive interference.


My attitude is: if neighbors are going to interfere with my hobby, I'm just 
going to build bigger and higher antennas.


Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC


On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Nigel Pimblett  wrote:

A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and DU, 
though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:



11164BCBrisbane, AUSTRALIATraces of song by Lionel Richie at 
1435. Confirmed on webstream..


1575VOAThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.


I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially 
on the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also had 
audio on several others.



Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB
Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array

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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[R. Colin Newell]

Why I don't get out of bed for audio traces -

Sleep is more therapeutic.

On a QRM side bar, tracked down a huge source of daytime RFI to a neighbors 
solar array inverter that blasts the MW and HF spectrum with a buzz every 100 
kHz or so. 

We are very good neighbors and he was quite upset to discover that his house 
was the source of disruptive interference. 

My attitude is: if neighbors are going to interfere with my hobby, I'm just 
going to build bigger and higher antennas. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Nigel Pimblett  wrote:
> 
> A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and DU, 
> though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:
> 
> 
> 11164BCBrisbane, AUSTRALIATraces of song by Lionel Richie at 
> 1435. Confirmed on webstream..
> 
> 1575VOAThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.
> 
> 
> I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially on 
> the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also had audio 
> on several others.
> 
> 
> Nigel Pimblett
> Dunmore, AB
> Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2017 Jan 29 2105 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 29 January follow.
Solar flux 77 and estimated planetary A-index 9.
The estimated planetary K-index at 2100 UTC on 29 January was 2.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 28   28   28   28   28   28   29   29   29   29   29   29   29   29
UTC  0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100
SFlx 80   80   80   80   80   79   79   79   79   79   79   79   79   77
A-in 21   21   21   21   21   999999999
K-in 32111233321222
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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[IRCA] Alberta TPs for 29 January 2017

[Nigel Pimblett]

 A fair number of carriers today, with seemingly a mix of Asians and 
DU, though most were pretty weak.   Audio was rather limited:



1116	4BC	Brisbane, AUSTRALIA	Traces of song by Lionel Richie at 1435. 
Confirmed on webstream..


1575VOA ThailandVery weak, with bits of talk around 1455.


I didn't get a chance to report yesterday, but it was better, especially 
on the high end.  Rather unusually, 1422 JORF was the top TP, but also 
had audio on several others.



Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB
Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array

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[IRCA] Oklahoma TP DX 1/29/17

[Richard N Allen]

Other than traces of a signal on 1566 kHz around sunrise (1333 GMT), it has 
been a rather quiet morning here.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA,
Skywave & FSL.

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