Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

> > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% 
> > > Voice of
> > > 
> > > > > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on 
> > > this
> > station, as nice as it sounds.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music
> > > 
> > > > > (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people 
> > > don't
> > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of
> > their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge
> > consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most
> > Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes
> > sense they're throwing some of it their way.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" 
> > > (Allen Su
> > > 
> > > > > took 2nd place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music 
> > > contest
> > show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda
> > you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks
> > everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts 
> > on
> > Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my
> > Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul
> > Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The
> > difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea
> > behind using that suitable song for propaganda is the same.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -Chris Kadlec
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ***
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Gary DeBock
> > > >>
> > > >> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com 
> > > mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, 
> > > Chris, and
> > > 
> > > > > also on the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing
> > > 
> > > > > paradise, 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the 
> > > S9+
> > leaders every morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, 
> > Hawaii
> > situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and 
> > away
> > the top dogs.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 
> > > > 783-China at 1541
> > > 
> > > > > UTC yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese 
> > > copy of
> > Korean rap artists like Leessang :-)
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Gary
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > 
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Mauno Ritola]

all 
of those stations nearby and can understand Amoy, listened to it and 
confirmed it for you.

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of 
the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this 
station, as nice as it sounds.

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music 
(doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't 
listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of 
their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge 
consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most 
Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes 
sense they're throwing some of it their way.

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su 
took 2nd place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest 
show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda 
you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks 
everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on 
Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my 
Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul 
Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The 
difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea 
behind using that suitable song for propaganda is the same.

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Chris Kadlec
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >> From: Gary DeBock
> >>
> >> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and 
also on the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing 
paradise, 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ 
leaders every morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii 
situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away 
the top dogs.

> >>
> >> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 
UTC yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of 
Korean rap artists like Leessang :-)

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Russ Edmunds]

The absorption can take place on signal paths which are on more northerly 
paths.  When conditions are quiet more signals can traverse the polar region 
without absorption. As a severe aurora sets in, the zone of absorption expands 
and therefore more signal paths are impacted.



Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


From: Gary DeBock 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 3:04:59 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; Russ Edmunds
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

<<< Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming 
to you on Kauai from the S or SW. >>>

Thanks Russ,

Australian and NZ signals were stronger than ever here this morning on Kauai, 
but the Asians didn't seem to drop off very much. Maybe the ionosphere treats 
this location like part of Asia?

Gary
On November 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM Russ Edmunds 
mailto:wb2...@bcdx.us>> wrote:


Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming to 
you on Kauai from the S or SW.



Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


From: IRCA 
mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com>> on behalf 
of Gary DeBock mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net>>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:03:25 PM
To: Mauno Ritola; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

<<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
about 15 seconds.

As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
clip in this message. >>>

Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning 783-Voice of 
Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600 UTC, with this S9 ID in 
presumed Amoy https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout
By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station has stopped 
transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 UTC in April, but 
haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions yesterday and the day 
before.
Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to check for 
its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for is Burmese language 
identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the recording content, as at the 43 
second point of this recording 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff.
I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made yesterday, with 
the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type language. My WRTH shows 702-AIR's 
foreign service in Jalandhar A with Urdu at the time, broadcasting to South 
Asia https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
Thanks again for all your assessment help!

Gary
On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote:
>
Gary,
as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
about 15 seconds.
As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
clip in this message.
Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and other
IDs, that are heard from China on MW.
Hope this helps,
Mauno
>
Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
Chris,
Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station 
identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band both 
in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of music 
(Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)
<<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it 
sounds.

  1.  The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it 
doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you 
can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you 
just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and 
ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds. >>>

Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the prerogative 
to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My wife is Hong 
Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean anything in China, 
where the government can do anything it wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many 
Taiwan r

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

<<< Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming 
to you on Kauai from the S or SW. >>>

Thanks Russ,

Australian and NZ signals were stronger than ever here this morning on Kauai, 
but the Asians didn't seem to drop off very much. Maybe the ionosphere treats 
this location like part of Asia?

Gary

> On November 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM Russ Edmunds  mailto:wb2...@bcdx.us > wrote:
> 
> 
> Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are 
> coming to you on Kauai from the S or SW.
> 
> 
> 
> Russ Edmunds
> 
> WB2BJH
> 
> Blue Bell, PA
> 
> Grid FN20id
> 
> 
> From: IRCA  mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Gary DeBock 
> mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net >
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:03:25 PM
> To: Mauno Ritola; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> 
> <<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did 
> it
> for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
> "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
> about 15 seconds.
> 
> As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
> clip in this message. >>>
> 
> Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning 
> 783-Voice of Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600 UTC, 
> with this S9 ID in presumed Amoy 
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout
> By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station has 
> stopped transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 UTC in 
> April, but haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions yesterday and 
> the day before.
> Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to check 
> for its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for is Burmese 
> language identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the recording content, as 
> at the 43 second point of this recording 
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff.
> I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made 
> yesterday, with the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type language. My 
> WRTH shows 702-AIR's foreign service in Jalandhar A with Urdu at the time, 
> broadcasting to South Asia 
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
> Thanks again for all your assessment help!
> 
> Gary
> 
> > > On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote:
> > 
> > > >
> 
> > > Gary,
> > 
> > > 
> > > as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I 
> did it
> > for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically 
> > as:
> > "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip 
> > at
> > about 15 seconds.
> > 
> > > 
> > > As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 
> 63 kB
> > clip in this message.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan 
> and other
> > IDs, that are heard from China on MW.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > > 
> > > Mauno
> > 
> > > >
> 
> > > Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
> > 
> > > > > Chris,
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz 
> > UnID Chinese station identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest 
> > Asian TP on the band both in the morning and evening here, and it plays an 
> > incredible variety of music (Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even 
> > rap :-)
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% 
> > Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this 
> > station, as nice as it sounds.
> > >1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop 
> > > music (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't 
> > > listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of their 
> > > own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Tai

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Russ Edmunds]

Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming to 
you on Kauai from the S or SW.



Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


From: IRCA  on behalf of Gary DeBock 

Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:03:25 PM
To: Mauno Ritola; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

<<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
about 15 seconds.

As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
clip in this message. >>>

Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning 783-Voice of 
Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600 UTC, with this S9 ID in 
presumed Amoy https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout
By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station has stopped 
transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 UTC in April, but 
haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions yesterday and the day 
before.
Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to check for 
its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for is Burmese language 
identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the recording content, as at the 43 
second point of this recording 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff.
I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made yesterday, with 
the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type language. My WRTH shows 702-AIR's 
foreign service in Jalandhar A with Urdu at the time, broadcasting to South 
Asia https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
Thanks again for all your assessment help!

Gary
> On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote:
>
>
> Gary,
>
> as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
> for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
> "Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
> about 15 seconds.
>
> As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
> clip in this message.
>
> Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and other
> IDs, that are heard from China on MW.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mauno
>
>
> Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
> > Chris,
> >
> > Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station 
> > identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band 
> > both in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of 
> > music (Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)
> >
> > <<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the 
> > Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as 
> > nice as it sounds.
> > 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean 
> > it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but 
> > here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda 
> > stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock 
> > music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language music in those 
> > genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it 
> > their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of 
> > the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, 
> > as nice as it sounds. >>>
> >
> > Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the 
> > prerogative to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My 
> > wife is Hong Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean 
> > anything in China, where the government can do anything it wishes. But 
> > sometimes I wonder how many Taiwan residents actually listen to these 
> > mono-format music broadcasts with a heavy propaganda edge? When you lived 
> > in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn on the Voice of Unification after 
> > their 12-hour work days? I think not. But to be honest, the programming 
> > from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so ridiculous that it is actually pretty 
> > amusing, and I would be sorry if this type of amusement suddenly 
> > disappeared from the radio scene..
> >
> > Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)
> >
> >
> >> On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> &

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

;>
> >> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the 
> >> Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as 
> >> nice as it sounds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean 
> >> it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but 
> >> here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda 
> >> stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock 
> >> music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language music in those 
> >> genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it 
> >> their way.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd 
> >> place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in 
> >> China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda you could 
> >> spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks everything great 
> >> about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North 
> >> Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening 
> >> Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul Seoul" that says all the same 
> >> great things about Seoul sorta. The difference is that it was used for the 
> >> '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using that suitable song for propaganda 
> >> is the same.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Chris Kadlec
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >> From: Gary DeBock
> >>
> >> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on 
> >> the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 
> >> 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every 
> >> morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last 
> >> December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
> >>
> >> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC 
> >> yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean 
> >> rap artists like Leessang :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Mauno Ritola]

Gary,

as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it 
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as: 
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at 
about 15 seconds.


As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB 
clip in this message.


Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and other 
IDs, that are heard from China on MW.


Hope this helps,

Mauno


Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:

Chris,

Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station 
identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band both 
in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of music 
(Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)

<<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds.
1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it doesn't 
exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you can hear them 
broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge 
consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language 
music in those genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it 
their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds. 
>>>

Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the prerogative 
to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My wife is Hong 
Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean anything in China, 
where the government can do anything it wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many 
Taiwan residents actually listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a 
heavy propaganda edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn 
on the Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But to 
be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so ridiculous that it 
is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry if this type of amusement 
suddenly disappeared from the radio scene.

Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)



On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec  wrote:


 Gary,

  


 Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits 
broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered 
one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby 
and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.

  


 Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the 
Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice 
as it sounds.

  


 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean 
it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, 
you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.

  


 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd place in 
the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest 
level of propaganda you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks everything 
great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a 
hefty chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called 
"Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The difference is 
that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using that suitable song for propaganda 
is the same.

  


 The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:

  


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8

  


 -Chris Kadlec

  


 ***

  


 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)

 From: Gary DeBock 

 To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com

 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

  


 Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on 
the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).

  


 Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 
783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. 
This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 
819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.

 When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC 
yesterday, I t

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Mauno Ritola]

Hi Chris,

Could you please ask him, how the Amoy ID would be in Latin letters?

Yes, I also thought, that it was not Mandarin, that's why I suggested 
Hong Kong, but forgot Amoy from Voice of the Strait.


Thanks,

Mauno


Chris Kadlec kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 0:21:

Gary,

Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits 
broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered 
one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby 
and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.

Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it 
sounds.

1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it 
doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you 
can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.

2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd place in the 
2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest 
level of propaganda you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks everything 
great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a 
hefty chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called 
"Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The difference is 
that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using that suitable song for propaganda 
is the same.

The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8

-Chris Kadlec

***

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary DeBock 
To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on the 
801 jammer (or lack thereof).

Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 783-China 
and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. This is a 
major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 
981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC yesterday, 
I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap artists like 
Leessang :-)

https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz

Gary
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

Chris,

Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station 
identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band both 
in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of music 
(Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)

<<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it 
sounds.
1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it 
doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you 
can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you 
just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and 
ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds. >>>

Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the prerogative 
to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My wife is Hong 
Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean anything in China, 
where the government can do anything it wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many 
Taiwan residents actually listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a 
heavy propaganda edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn 
on the Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But to 
be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so ridiculous that it 
is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry if this type of amusement 
suddenly disappeared from the radio scene.

Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)


> On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec  wrote:
> 
> 
> Gary,
> 
>  
> 
> Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits 
> broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered 
> one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby 
> and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.
> 
>  
> 
> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the 
> Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as 
> nice as it sounds.
> 
>  
> 
> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean 
> it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, 
> you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed 
> at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American 
> music as well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates 
> there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.
> 
>  
> 
> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd 
> place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). 
> Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda you could spew at your 
> enemy across the water because it speaks everything great about Beijing. It's 
> EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty 
> chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song 
> called "Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. 
> The difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind 
> using that suitable song for propaganda is the same.
> 
>  
> 
> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8
> 
>  
> 
> -Chris Kadlec
> 
>      
> 
> ***
> 
>  
> 
> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> 
> From: Gary DeBock 
> 
> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on 
> the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).
> 
>  
> 
> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 
> 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. 
> This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 
> 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
> 
> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC 
> yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap 
> artists like Leessang :-)
> 
>  
> 
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Chris Kadlec]

Gary,

Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits 
broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered 
one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby 
and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.

Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. 
It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it 
sounds.

1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it 
doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you 
can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at 
Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as 
well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it 
makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.

2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd place 
in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). Its 
lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda you could spew at your enemy 
across the water because it speaks everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY 
what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of 
the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called 
"Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The 
difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using 
that suitable song for propaganda is the same.

The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4jTf_WaAl8

-Chris Kadlec

***

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary DeBock 
To: Chris Kadlec , irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on the 
801 jammer (or lack thereof).

Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 783-China 
and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. This is a 
major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 
981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC yesterday, 
I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap artists like 
Leessang :-)

https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz

Gary
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Mauno Ritola]

It's not them. Probably Haixia after all, you could compare the ID at 15 
seconds to what is heard on 4900 kHz.


Mauno


Mauno Ritola kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 12:35:

Is RTV Hong Kong Radio 5 out of the question?

Mauno


Chris Kadlec kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 11:16:

Gary,

783 is likely the straits broadcast. If they are not on the air at 
that time, we will find who is.


Hebei Life Radio is 150kw on that frequency but it's not them. Here's 
the TOH ID that aired on 11/3 at 1000 UTC from Qingting and clearly 
you can see it's not what you have:


http://www.beaglebass.com/temporary/Hebei_Life.mp3

They run the same clear ID with a single time beep at the top of 
every hour on their networks (which are notorious for echoes).


Either way, I'll get back to you tomorrow with a confirmation for 
that signal.


And I'm sure there is no jammer on 801, at least not within earshot 
of Seoul. If there is one, it's lower powered and on the Gangwon-do 
coast. Even then, it would be likely to be heard in Seoul, if it 
existed, but nobody can hear anything.


-Chris Kadlec
  http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/seoul


* * *

Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 04:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary DeBock 
Subject: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" 
station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, 
which hopefully someone can decipher 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2


Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 
kHz really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . 
Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency 
from 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines. 
Can anyone provide language or station identification? 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua


73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on the 
801 jammer (or lack thereof).

Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 783-China 
and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. This is a 
major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 
981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC yesterday, 
I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap artists like 
Leessang :-)

https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz

Gary


> On November 4, 2018 at 1:16 AM Chris Kadlec  wrote:
> 
> 
> Gary,
> 
>  
> 
> 783 is likely the straits broadcast. If they are not on the air at that 
> time, we will find who is.
> 
>  
> 
> Hebei Life Radio is 150kw on that frequency but it's not them. Here's the 
> TOH ID that aired on 11/3 at 1000 UTC from Qingting and clearly you can see 
> it's not what you have:
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.beaglebass.com/temporary/Hebei_Life.mp3
> 
>  
> 
> They run the same clear ID with a single time beep at the top of every 
> hour on their networks (which are notorious for echoes).
> 
>  
> 
> Either way, I'll get back to you tomorrow with a confirmation for that 
> signal.
> 
>  
> 
> And I'm sure there is no jammer on 801, at least not within earshot of 
> Seoul. If there is one, it's lower powered and on the Gangwon-do coast. Even 
> then, it would be likely to be heard in Seoul, if it existed, but nobody can 
> hear anything.
> 
>  
> 
> -Chris Kadlec
> 
> http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/seoul
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>     * * *
> 
>  
> 
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 04:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> From: Gary DeBock 
> 
> Subject: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> 
>  
> 
> There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" 
> station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which 
> hopefully someone can decipher  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
> 
>  
> 
> Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
> really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . 
> Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 
> 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone 
> provide language or station identification?  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua
> 
>  
> 
> 73 and Good DX,
> 
>  
> 
> Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)
> 
>  
> 
> 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna
> 
 
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Mauno Ritola]

Is RTV Hong Kong Radio 5 out of the question?

Mauno


Chris Kadlec kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 11:16:

Gary,

783 is likely the straits broadcast. If they are not on the air at that time, 
we will find who is.

Hebei Life Radio is 150kw on that frequency but it's not them. Here's the TOH 
ID that aired on 11/3 at 1000 UTC from Qingting and clearly you can see it's 
not what you have:

http://www.beaglebass.com/temporary/Hebei_Life.mp3

They run the same clear ID with a single time beep at the top of every hour on 
their networks (which are notorious for echoes).

Either way, I'll get back to you tomorrow with a confirmation for that signal.

And I'm sure there is no jammer on 801, at least not within earshot of Seoul. 
If there is one, it's lower powered and on the Gangwon-do coast. Even then, it 
would be likely to be heard in Seoul, if it existed, but nobody can hear 
anything.

-Chris Kadlec
  http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/seoul


* * *

Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 04:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary DeBock 
Subject: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" station. 
At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which hopefully someone can 
decipher  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2

Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . Unfortunately 
801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 0910-0930 tonight, 
which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone provide language or 
station identification?  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua

73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Chris Kadlec]

Gary,

783 is likely the straits broadcast. If they are not on the air at that time, 
we will find who is.

Hebei Life Radio is 150kw on that frequency but it's not them. Here's the TOH 
ID that aired on 11/3 at 1000 UTC from Qingting and clearly you can see it's 
not what you have:

http://www.beaglebass.com/temporary/Hebei_Life.mp3

They run the same clear ID with a single time beep at the top of every hour on 
their networks (which are notorious for echoes).

Either way, I'll get back to you tomorrow with a confirmation for that signal.

And I'm sure there is no jammer on 801, at least not within earshot of Seoul. 
If there is one, it's lower powered and on the Gangwon-do coast. Even then, it 
would be likely to be heard in Seoul, if it existed, but nobody can hear 
anything.

-Chris Kadlec
 http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/seoul


* * *

Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 04:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary DeBock 
Subject: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" station. 
At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which hopefully 
someone can decipher  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2

Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . Unfortunately 
801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 0910-0930 tonight, 
which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone provide language or 
station identification?  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua

73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

Aloha Colin,

<<< Noise levels are manageable at your rental? any room to put up small 
Wellbrook ALA100 loops outside? >>>

It's possible to chase DX right outside this 2-BR house condominium very close 
to the ocean beach, but there is some moderate RFI that can be nulled with the 
"Frequent Flyer" FSL (on a null bearing that's great for Asian DX).. I'm sure 
that a Wellbrook ALA100 would be acceptable outside the condominium, and 
possibly even larger broadband antennas-- but you (or any other DXer) would 
need to find a way to null out the RFI in order to hear the weaker TP-DX 
stations (maybe with one of your new phaser units?).

Gary


> On November 3, 2018 at 10:55 AM "R. Colin Newell"  
> wrote:
> 
> Noise levels are manageable at your rental? any room to put up small 
> Wellbrook ALA100 loops outside?
> 
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

<<< I should have mentioned it is Brazilian Portuguese, like you did.
And yes, about the first word is Transmundial. Good spot.
I think this is another case of reporting even channel DX on a TP/DU 
frequenmcy. >>>

Theo and Chuck,

I'm pretty sure you are both correct-- this is probably another case like 
1000-Radio Record showing up on "999" in the Cook Islands. With an Ultralight 
radio you can hear booming South Americans 1 kHz away from the set frequency, 
and unless the language provides a clue, it's easy to assume that you have a TP 
or DU on the dial frequency. I'll review the recording to pull up a little more 
context.

Gary

> On November 3, 2018 at 11:16 AM Chuck Hutton  mailto:charle...@msn.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> Theo -
> 
> 
> I should have mentioned it is Brazilian Portuguese, like you did.
> 
> And yes, about the first word is Transmundial. Good spot.
> 
> 
> I think this is another case of reporting even channel DX on a TP/DU 
> frequenmcy.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> From: IRCA  mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Theo  mailto:th...@telus.net >
> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 11:10 AM
>     To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
> 
> 801 is in Portuguese, and to my ears of the Brazilian kind.
> 
> Are you sure you weren't on 800, though the direction would be totally
> wacky?  The woman says "Transmundial" within the opening seconds of
> your clip but there's no context I can grab before that.
> 
> Theo
> 
> On 3/11/2018 9:15 AM, Bruce Portzer wrote:
> 
> > > Hi Gary
> > 
> > > 
> > > It sounds like you're off to a good start.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese
> > stations. No ideas on that one.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in
> > Gosford NSW. The gang at RealDX should be able to nail it down for
> > sure.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Enjoy you trip
> > 
> > > 
> > > Bruce
> > 
> > > >
> 
> > > On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
> > 
> > > > > After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my 
> > wife and
> > > I decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. 
> > > Craig
> > > Barnes has already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL 
> > > in April
> > > of 2017 ,and made out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in
> > > Princeville, on the north side of the island.
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > >> Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which
> >> greatly reduces the strength of North and South American stations,
> >> Poipu in Kauai has a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with
> >> similar paths to both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it
> >> seemed like all four areas were coming in at good strength, with 621
> >> kHz having two S9 stations from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and
> >> VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having the same (Kiribati and
> >> JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can completely null out
> >> one area or the other.
> >>
> >> To investigate some questions that were discussed recently
> >> among the Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's
> >> Japanese service at 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio
> >> (which is more noticeable during signal fades)
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd
> >>
> >> There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera"
> >> station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID,
> >> which hopefully someone can decipher
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
> >>
> >> Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801
> >> kHz really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal .
> >> Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency
> >> from 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippin

Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[R. Colin Newell]

Check out the TWR Bonaire schedule -- I think it was Portuguese at that
hour --

An honest mistake on a ULR for sure.


>
>

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[R. Colin Newell]

Which would make it 800 Bonaire, yes?

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 11:10 AM Theo  wrote:

> 801 is in Portuguese, and to my ears of the Brazilian kind.
>
> Are you sure you weren't on 800, though the direction would be totally
> wacky?The woman says "Transmundial" within the opening seconds of
> your clip but there's no context I can grab before that.
>
> Theo
>
> On 3/11/2018 9:15 AM, Bruce Portzer wrote:
> > Hi Gary
> >
> > It sounds like you're off to a good start.
> >
> > 783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese
> > stations.  No ideas on that one.
> >
> > 801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in
> > Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for
> > sure.
> >
> > Enjoy you trip
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
> >>   After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and
> >> I decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig
> >> Barnes has already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April
> >> of 2017 ,and made out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in
> >> Princeville, on the north side of the island.
> >>
> >>   Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which
> >> greatly reduces the strength of North and South American stations,
> >> Poipu in Kauai has a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with
> >> similar paths to both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it
> >> seemed like all four areas were coming in at good strength, with 621
> >> kHz having two S9 stations from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and
> >> VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having the same (Kiribati and
> >> JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can completely null out
> >> one area or the other.
> >>
> >>   To investigate some questions that were discussed recently
> >> among the Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's
> >> Japanese service at 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio
> >> (which is more noticeable during signal fades)
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd
> >>
> >> There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera"
> >> station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID,
> >> which hopefully someone can decipher
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
> >>
> >> Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801
> >> kHz really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal .
> >> Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency
> >> from 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines.
> >> Can anyone provide language or station identification?
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua
> >>
> >> Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One
> >> thing seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1
> >> stations don't seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did
> >> in Kona (at least not tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for
> >> much of the evening, when it was pretty weak in Kona
> >> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw Go
> >> figure!
> >>
> >> 73 and Good DX,
> >>
> >> Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)
> >>
> >> 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Chuck Hutton]

Theo -


I should have mentioned it is Brazilian Portuguese, like you did.

And yes, about the first word is Transmundial. Good spot.


I think this is another case of reporting even channel DX on a TP/DU frequenmcy.

Chuck

From: IRCA  on behalf of Theo 
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 11:10 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

801 is in Portuguese, and to my ears of the Brazilian kind.

Are you sure you weren't on 800, though the direction would be totally
wacky?The woman says "Transmundial" within the opening seconds of
your clip but there's no context I can grab before that.

Theo

On 3/11/2018 9:15 AM, Bruce Portzer wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> It sounds like you're off to a good start.
>
> 783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese
> stations.  No ideas on that one.
>
> 801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in
> Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for
> sure.
>
> Enjoy you trip
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
>>   After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and
>> I decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig
>> Barnes has already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April
>> of 2017 ,and made out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in
>> Princeville, on the north side of the island.
>>
>>   Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which
>> greatly reduces the strength of North and South American stations,
>> Poipu in Kauai has a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with
>> similar paths to both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it
>> seemed like all four areas were coming in at good strength, with 621
>> kHz having two S9 stations from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and
>> VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having the same (Kiribati and
>> JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can completely null out
>> one area or the other.
>>
>>   To investigate some questions that were discussed recently
>> among the Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's
>> Japanese service at 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio
>> (which is more noticeable during signal fades)
>> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd
>>
>> There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera"
>> station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID,
>> which hopefully someone can decipher
>> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
>>
>> Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801
>> kHz really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal .
>> Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency
>> from 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines.
>> Can anyone provide language or station identification?
>> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua
>>
>> Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One
>> thing seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1
>> stations don't seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did
>> in Kona (at least not tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for
>> much of the evening, when it was pretty weak in Kona
>> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw Go
>> figure!
>>
>> 73 and Good DX,
>>
>> Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)
>>
>> 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Theo]

801 is in Portuguese, and to my ears of the Brazilian kind.

Are you sure you weren't on 800, though the direction would be totally 
wacky?    The woman says "Transmundial" within the opening seconds of 
your clip but there's no context I can grab before that.


Theo

On 3/11/2018 9:15 AM, Bruce Portzer wrote:

Hi Gary

It sounds like you're off to a good start.

783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese 
stations.  No ideas on that one.


801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in 
Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for 
sure.


Enjoy you trip

Bruce


On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
  After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and 
I decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig 
Barnes has already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April 
of 2017 ,and made out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in 
Princeville, on the north side of the island.


  Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which 
greatly reduces the strength of North and South American stations, 
Poipu in Kauai has a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with 
similar paths to both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it 
seemed like all four areas were coming in at good strength, with 621 
kHz having two S9 stations from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and 
VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having the same (Kiribati and 
JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can completely null out 
one area or the other.


  To investigate some questions that were discussed recently 
among the Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's 
Japanese service at 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio 
(which is more noticeable during signal fades) 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd


There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" 
station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, 
which hopefully someone can decipher 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2


Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 
kHz really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . 
Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency 
from 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines. 
Can anyone provide language or station identification? 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua


Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One 
thing seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 
stations don't seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did 
in Kona (at least not tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for 
much of the evening, when it was pretty weak in Kona 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw Go 
figure!


73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna





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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[R. Colin Newell]

Agreed - for a variety of reasons Portuguese is more commonly featured on
networked Asian radio -- like NHK.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 10:57 AM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Another person, another opinion.
> I think the 801 is not Italian but rather Portuguese. Perhaps I am being
> fooled by a strong accent but so it seems. If so, I suppose it is Niche
> Radio..
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Chuck Hutton]

Another person, another opinion.


I think the 801 is not Italian but rather Portuguese. Perhaps I am being fooled 
by a strong accent but so it seems. If so, I suppose it is Niche Radio..


783: there is indeed a "guangbo diantai" ID at :17. I think she says "Hebei 
Shenguo Guangbo Diantai".


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Bruce Portzer 

Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 9:15 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

Hi Gary

It sounds like you're off to a good start.

783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese
stations.  No ideas on that one.

801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in
Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for sure.

Enjoy you trip

Bruce


On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
>   After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and I 
> decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig Barnes has 
> already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April of 2017 ,and made 
> out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in Princeville, on the north side of 
> the island.
>
>   Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which greatly 
> reduces the strength of North and South American stations, Poipu in Kauai has 
> a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with similar paths to both Asia 
> and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it seemed like all four areas were 
> coming in at good strength, with 621 kHz having two S9 stations from two 
> different areas (621-Tuvalu and VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having 
> the same (Kiribati and JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can 
> completely null out one area or the other.
>
>   To investigate some questions that were discussed recently among the 
> Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's Japanese service at 
> 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio (which is more noticeable 
> during signal fades)  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd
>
> There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" station. 
> At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which hopefully 
> someone can decipher  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
>
> Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
> really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . 
> Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 
> 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone 
> provide language or station identification?  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua
>
> Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One thing 
> seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 stations don't 
> seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did in Kona (at least not 
> tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for much of the evening, when it 
> was pretty weak in Kona  
> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw   Go figure!
>
> 73 and Good DX,
>
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

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Wellbrook ALA100 loops outside?

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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for your assessments on 783 and 801, which are appreciated!

In the sunrise session this morning 918-Cambodia was dominant over Shandong 
after daybreak, which was the opposite of the Cook Island situation in April. 
Here was Cambodia over Shandong at 1618. Shandong shows up weakly at the end of 
the recording  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/cc46e5qwsaxatv7xfwkdgva0q9gjvtli
Unfortunately Hawaiian splatter wipes out 693 (Bangladesh) here, and 657 is 
almost as bad (AIR). 1431-Mongolia was MIA this morning in good propagation, so 
I don't know if they are still around. 702 had an interesting foreign language 
TP under Pyongyang at 1623, though, so once the language experts figure it out 
it may provide some excitement  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
You and Chuck should come over here for a trip... there's more than enough 
exotic DX to send any TP-chaser straight to Cloud Nine!

Gary





> On November 3, 2018 at 9:15 AM Bruce Portzer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Gary
> 
> It sounds like you're off to a good start.
> 
> 783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese 
> stations.  No ideas on that one.
> 
> 801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in 
> Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for sure.
> 
> Enjoy you trip
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:
> >   After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and I 
> > decided to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig Barnes has 
> > already been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April of 2017 ,and made 
> > out like a bandit with lots of Asian DX in Princeville, on the north side 
> > of the island.
> >
> >   Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which 
> > greatly reduces the strength of North and South American stations, Poipu in 
> > Kauai has a straight ocean shot to both areas, along with similar paths to 
> > both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it seemed like all four 
> > areas were coming in at good strength, with 621 kHz having two S9 stations 
> > from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 
> > kHz having the same (Kiribati and JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" 
> > FSL can completely null out one area or the other.
> >
> >   To investigate some questions that were discussed recently among the 
> > Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's Japanese service 
> > at 0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio (which is more noticeable 
> > during signal fades)  
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd
> >
> > There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" 
> > station. At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which 
> > hopefully someone can decipher  
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2
> >
> > Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
> > really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . 
> > Unfortunately 801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 
> > 0910-0930 tonight, which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone 
> > provide language or station identification?  
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua
> >
> > Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One thing 
> > seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 stations 
> > don't seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did in Kona (at 
> > least not tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for much of the 
> > evening, when it was pretty weak in Kona  
> > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw   Go figure!
> >
> > 73 and Good DX,
> >
> > Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)
> >
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> >
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Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Bruce Portzer]

Hi Gary

It sounds like you're off to a good start.

783 lacked the key words I need, such as "Guangbo", to ID Chinese 
stations.  No ideas on that one.


801 sounds like Italian, which suggests the Rete Italia station in 
Gosford NSW.  The gang at RealDX should  be able to nail it down for sure.


Enjoy you trip

Bruce


On 11/3/2018 04:47, Gary DeBock wrote:

  After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and I decided to try a 
vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig Barnes has already been here with 
his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April of 2017 ,and made out like a bandit with lots of Asian 
DX in Princeville, on the north side of the island.

  Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which greatly reduces the 
strength of North and South American stations, Poipu in Kauai has a straight ocean shot 
to both areas, along with similar paths to both Asia and the South Pacific. In DXing 
tonight it seemed like all four areas were coming in at good strength, with 621 kHz 
having two S9 stations from two different areas (621-Tuvalu and VoK's Japanese service) 
and 1440 kHz having the same (Kiribati and JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent 
Flyer" FSL can completely null out one area or the other.

  To investigate some questions that were discussed recently among the 
Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's Japanese service at 
0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio (which is more noticeable during 
signal fades)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd

There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" station. 
At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which hopefully someone can 
decipher  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2

Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . Unfortunately 
801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 0910-0930 tonight, 
which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone provide language or 
station identification?  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua

Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One thing 
seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 stations don't 
seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did in Kona (at least not 
tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for much of the evening, when it 
was pretty weak in Kona  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw   Go figure!

73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna



  
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[IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Gary DeBock]

 After two trips to Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island) my wife and I decided 
to try a vacation on the "Garden Island" of Kauai. Craig Barnes has already 
been here with his 5" Frequent Flyer FSL in April of 2017 ,and made out like a 
bandit with lots of Asian DX in Princeville, on the north side of the island.

 Whereas Kona on the Big Island has a high mountain ridge which greatly 
reduces the strength of North and South American stations, Poipu in Kauai has a 
straight ocean shot to both areas, along with similar paths to both Asia and 
the South Pacific. In DXing tonight it seemed like all four areas were coming 
in at good strength, with 621 kHz having two S9 stations from two different 
areas (621-Tuvalu and VoK's Japanese service) and 1440 kHz having the same 
(Kiribati and JOWF). Fortunately the "Frequent Flyer" FSL can completely null 
out one area or the other.

 To investigate some questions that were discussed recently among the 
Northwest TP-DXing gang, I made a recording of 621-VoK's Japanese service at 
0943, complete with a buzzing hum on the audio (which is more noticeable during 
signal fades)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/7d6eggmr9ntnfjej3zf22dh1s5p32wyd

There was also a question of the identity of the 783 "Chinese Opera" station. 
At the 1000 TOH I was able to record the full Chinese ID, which hopefully 
someone can decipher  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/rcliqm4q1b9amlvmw11ofgfje6en66a2

Finally, I promised Chris Kadlec that I would investigate whether 801 kHz 
really has a Seoul metro area jammer on the Pyongyang BS signal . Unfortunately 
801 kHz had this monster UnID covering the frequency from 0910-0930 tonight, 
which I think may be from the Philippines. Can anyone provide language or 
station identification?  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mpi5eam5d93beb5hd0kne8y0x50h9zua

Anyway, Chris, I'll keep trying on the 801 jammer investigation. One thing 
seems to be for sure here in Kauai-- the 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 stations don't 
seem to have the overwhelming strength that they did in Kona (at least not 
tonight). But 783-China was at S9+ strength for much of the evening, when it 
was pretty weak in Kona  
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dsw1h8s4ilxq5mxpnd0bd67fte4wfifw   Go figure! 

73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (DXing at Poipu Kai, Kauai, Hawaii for 6 days)

7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna



 
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