Re: Alphas?

1999-04-26 Thread John Goerzen
ve got it sitting around here waiting to install someitme. Yes, that's right, the Alpha one beat i386. Woohoo :-) If you can't find the link, let me know and I can do some digging. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Deb

Re: go back to gzip!

1999-03-30 Thread John Goerzen
"David Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It was a bit rude as written, and that's part of the problem with email in > general. Sometimes terse statements sound worse than the intended message > was to be delivered. You said "nobody uses bzip2", which is CLEARLY incorrect. > While I am really

Re: Hatred of 1.2 messages

1999-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm starting to get the feeling that many in this group are approaching > "when will 1.2 be out" messages with a very disheartening attitude that > will surely turn potential users off. Well let's see. Presumably to find out about the mailing list,

Re: TFS Delivery Failure: Re: Mailing list trouble (fwd)

1999-02-18 Thread John Goerzen
I'm about to ban the IP of that server from my sendmail. It's obviously not compliant with RFCs, and their admins never answer mail. Maybe if they get a 550 when trying to deliver a bounce, it will create a mail loop on their end, hehe :-) On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 01:17:55PM -0500, David Harvill

Re: Mailing list trouble

1999-02-18 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 12:20:38PM -0500, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, John Goerzen wrote: > > Every message I've posted to the list this week has resulted in a > bounced message from a system where the username is no longer valid. Same here, and I've

Mailing list trouble

1999-02-18 Thread John Goerzen
t-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: > > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:34:17 -0600 > From: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Kevin Hester <[EMAI

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 07:23:04PM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote: > I'm sorry, but all I saw from your sudden burst of postings was anti-Java. Perhaps you would realize that I did not start this thread? I was replying to a message that stated: > 4. Linux evangelists : Linux is the future. Java is

Re: NO MORE--JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
Shall we all send unsubscribe requests and 1.2 questions instead? :-) (Gotta keep the traffic up somehow, you know) Anyway, *cough* caps lock... On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:25:43PM -0600, Jason Hoffman wrote: > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Take this offline... This list has a SPECIFIC > purpos

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 12:39:57PM -0700, Jeff Galyan wrote: > Pardon me, but you appear to be the ONLY person actually using mod_perl > or FastCGI in a production environment. I know of multiple organizations using mod_perl in a production environment. If memory serves, hotmail is one, but th

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
OK, this is about the 6th or 7th time I've said this and STILL people are ignoring it. Your whole argument is based on a flawed premise: that with CGI, a new process must be started for each request. This is plain and simply NOT correct. I have pointed this out time and time again. Any benchma

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
You are correct, Alex. Both Solaris and Linux support "real" threads, as do several other Unix OSs. We can go into detail if need be, but I hope we can spare the list that :-) On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:32:38PM +0300, Alex Romadinoff wrote: > >AFAIK unix doesn't support real threads. For new r

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:51:51AM +0100, Chris Huebsch wrote: > The first is a "non-java-at-all" Server. It has to create a new process > when a request arives. Where? The system is almost at the limit? It is NO. I keep saying this and apparently nobody is listening. Let me give you URLs then

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:17:43AM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote: > > But what techincal advantage do they really give? Java is slower, uses more > > system resources, etc. > > John, if you don't like Java, can you please tell us why you feel it's > necessary to clog this mailing list with your an

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
h Java than Perl. Perl programs run all over, and well-written C programs do as well, although probably there would need to be a lot of changes. > > > > > On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, John Goerzen wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:34:03PM -0800, Kevin Hester wrote: &g

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 08:03:26PM -0500, Daniel W. Dulitz x108 wrote: > John, you wonder about the technical advantages of Java. Java is all > about balancing easy to write and easy to read code against runtime > performance. Think C versus assembly language. And the real question > is, "Is t

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 07:49:18PM -0500, David Harvill wrote: > Overall, the servlets do not use more system resources. CGI has to spawn > an entire new process (with full memory overhead) for each incoming > request. Java starts up the process (and memory overhead) only once, and > simply giv

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:34:03PM -0800, Kevin Hester wrote: > > > I would certainly not use Java for CGI. libapache-mod-perl, FastCGI, etc. > if necessary. > > I'd definitely encourage anyone to use servlets with wild abandon. So easy > and clean - I haven't had to write CGI cruft in over a

Re: Java-Linux enthusiasts

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
A valid categorization, I believe. I clearly belong best to #4, but a difference is that I believe that Linux will be overtaken by something else. Hurd, for instance, when it gets more stable (but we're looking at years here). Java has serious problems with speed, bloat, licensing and open-ne

FAQs and mailing list

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
GRR... I'm getting a bit ticked with the endless "unsubscribe" posts to the list, and the JDK 1.2 questions. First, why are we not using cookies to confirm subscribe and unsubscribe requests? Seems like a prudent thing to do. Secondly, Majordomo has features to identify admin requests posted t

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 11:11:08AM +0100, Artur Biesiadowski wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > > I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do > not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart > editor. What it lacks ? > >

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Goerzen
#x27;s really too bad that more IDEs are not available for Linux. What do these give you that XEmacs doesn't? -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS

Re: FUCKING MAIL LIST

1998-11-29 Thread John Goerzen
? On Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 05:28:28PM -0600, apersil wrote: > TELL ME HOW TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM THIS FUCKING MAIL LIST! -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.deb

Re: Announce: JDK117 for alpha

1998-11-11 Thread John Goerzen
supermojo" ( i have no connection, AND have only a demo model ), and > has been superceeded by the binary files version v2. The classes file is > still version v1. -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Li

Uncle George's Alpha Port

1998-11-09 Thread John Goerzen
interest in it, and it's a shame to have a situation where nobody can use the port to such an excellent machine because your web provider is being nasty. Sunsite has many, many mirrors and once it's on there, this ought to eliminate all future problems. Is there any other way to get i

Alpha port?

1998-11-02 Thread John Goerzen
iffs to compile it, etc, etc. I would really like to get it working on Alpha but can't seem to find the Alpha version anywhere! Thanks, John -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgra