Re: [The Java Posse] Re: The Framework is dead. Long live the CMS.

I feel the view of any web application can have a great home in a CMS. If done right, they can then all be managed in the CMS, You get a runtime interface to manage the application and change text, move stuff around, etc. You also get a set of frameworks that are bundled as a higher level framework

[The Java Posse] Re: The Framework is dead. Long live the CMS.

Emphasis on *web site*, not *web application*. Given a copy of Joomla and a $49 pre built theme, one can get a *web site* up and running in about 20 minutes, and yes, building one from scratch is just silly. Of course, I've seen someone get charged $15K by a company for what amounted to a Joomla

Re: [The Java Posse] The Framework is dead. Long live the CMS.

Is it not true to say that almost every website requires something that any given CMS won't cater for? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Ruben Reusser wrote: > I saw this post the other day and was wondering what you all think about the > approach - and if you have any experience with this approach

[The Java Posse] The Framework is dead. Long live the CMS.

I saw this post the other day and was wondering what you all think about the approach - and if you have any experience with this approach it would be nice to hear what problems you ran into. There are some great Java CMS's out there one can build on top of too http://www.metaltoad.com/blog/framewo

[The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

"Waiter, theres a flie on my steak", "Oh I'm sorry, did you want that one medium done too?" On Sep 30, 11:02 pm, Christian Catchpole wrote: > Just don't yell at the waitress man.  Or they'll kick you out of the > restaurant :).  I want a perfect steak too... but you catch more flies > with honey,

[The Java Posse] 24 hrs to get those CodeMash abstracts in

Hey all, I'm still hoping for some CodeMash abstracts from many of you. You have 24 hrs before the deadline! Submit at codemash.org. CodeMash is a developer-organized conference that brings together developers of many different languages and platforms to learn from one another. The conference

[The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

Thank you, Dick, for saying what needed to be said. It doesn't take long before well-meaning discussions dissolve into arguing and general aggressiveness. It's not comfortable and not appropriate for a forum of professionals. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: JavaPosse #324

wow now I so wish i was there... On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Richard Fearn wrote: > > Epic episode. Probably the funniest one since the chipmunks. Great > > concept! Yes, when will the video be available and where? > > It's now available: > > http://medianetwork.oracle.com/media/show/15810

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: JavaPosse #324

> Epic episode. Probably the funniest one since the chipmunks. Great > concept!  Yes, when will the video be available and where? It's now available: http://medianetwork.oracle.com/media/show/15810 Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Pos

[The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

Just don't yell at the waitress man. Or they'll kick you out of the restaurant :). I want a perfect steak too... but you catch more flies with honey, and all that... Hmmm... Staaak.. On Sep 30, 11:43 pm, Casper Bang wrote: > On Sep 30, 1:04 pm, Christian Catchpole > wrote: > > > I do find

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Casper Bang wrote: > Pre-bundled all Google apps and tied to Google's services, with > vanilla Android user interface. > According to this

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

> What's the difference between a "with Google" phone and one that isn't? All > those phones have Market, Gmail, etc., so what do the "with Google" phones > get extra? Pre-bundled all Google apps and tied to Google's services, with vanilla Android user interface. > I can also recommend the Desire

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

Carl, Obviously you're a UK resident talking about VAT rising to 20%... so if you want to tinker and that is more important than having the absolute latest hardware I'd suggest looking at Vodafone and the Nexus One - Vodafone are still doing Android phones free on some monthly contracts and I'm mu

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Carl Jokl wrote: > he Motorola specific documentation has been to find out all the JSR > support for the JavaME implementations of different feature phones. > Oh, I thought you meant Android documentation. Moandji -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM, CKoerner wrote: > > http://www.google.com/phone What's the difference between a "with Google" phone and one that isn't? All those phones have Market, Gmail, etc., so what do the "with Google" phones get extra? Moandji -- You received this message because you

[The Java Posse] More patent lawsuits - Apple vs Nokia

I don't want to start another thread war about patents. I just thought the dates mentioned in the article were interesting. http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/apple-sues-nokia-in-britain-10212 No decision by the Federal Trade Commission until 2011 and court hearings are set for 2012? At

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

(At risk of being flamed here...) Totally! Since working with other JVM languages, I've definitely found myself learning a lot more about the Java memory model, optimisation and GC behaviour. Features like first-class functions and immutability tend to produce a much higher churn in short lived o

[The Java Posse] Another Android lawsuit?

News from two weeks ago - am I wrong or they were not discussed here? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-23/skyhook-casts-google-as-evil-doer-as-suit-may-determine-access.html http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/17/skyhook-google-forced-motorola-to-drop-our-location-service-de/ -- Fabrizio Giudi

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

On Sep 30, 9:36 am, Carl Jokl wrote: > The way I see it is that even with the Computer Science background and > understanding O/S memory allocation models and how C/C++ allocates > memory as well as Stack and Heap memory theory the errors still happen > because I am human and miss things sometimes

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

Certainly with older generation products, most hardware acceleration seemed to be based around (inverse) discreet cosine transforms, so really it's working at a lower level than individual frames. I'm less familiar with the latest kit, but from what I understand it lets you feed a compressed strea

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

I'm not sure about "most" H.26x decoding being done in hardware. On the Mac, we only got this with QuickTime X in Snow Leopard. Prior to last year, H.264 decoding was all in software. Of course, it is genuinely a big deal for mobile to use hardware decoding because of the performance and energy w

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

The Motorola specific documentation has been to find out all the JSR support for the JavaME implementations of different feature phones. The HTC Touch Pro 2 is one of the few phones I have owned which wasn't from Motorola. I also have others in the family who have had Motorola phones. I can also ge

Re: [The Java Posse] Recommended Android Phones

I have an HTC Desire. I like it, but the main problem is that it states that it has 512MB of internal memory, but the amount available to you is a lot lower. Even with Froyo's "move to SD" feature, it's easy to run low on space, which leads to an annoying notification you can't get rid of as well a

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

Some of the characters are missing in this post purely due to pointer errors (probably in my brain). On Sep 30, 2:36 pm, Carl Jokl wrote: > It is at lest somewhat comforting to know that even an experience C/C+ > + developer makes plenty of pointer errors. > > The way I see it is that even with t

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

> have been fairly happy with my (non-android) HTC phone but find HTC > is very poor on customer services and developer resources compared to > a company like Motorola. Funny, that contrary to what I have seen. HTC is very fast at shipping replacement phones, they don't even care about region/coun

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

I think the real issue here is that most h.26x decoding nowadays is done with hardware support, via native APIs That's where C/C++ has a definite advantage over Java, and not in the inherent performance qualities of VM vs statically compiled code. On 30 September 2010 14:36, Carl Jokl wrote: > I

[The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

On Sep 30, 1:04 pm, Christian Catchpole wrote: > I do find it ironic that developers complain of > being tethered with old, underpowered, languages. Yet they criticise > anything esoteric or not suitable for immediate use by a monkey.  How > often do you hear "we'd all be better off if we went bac

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

It is at lest somewhat comforting to know that even an experience C/C+ + developer makes plenty of pointer errors. The way I see it is that even with the Computer Science background and understanding O/S memory allocation models and how C/C++ allocates memory as well as Stack and Heap memory theor

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

As far as I know, IBM's implementation does not allow access down to the frame (I need to identify i-frames and p-frames, for instance). On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Chris Adamson wrote: > IBM had a decoder for the "base" MPEG-4 codec (which preceded H.264, > and is in some ways a tweaked H.2

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

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[The Java Posse] Re: .... Leaves Oracle

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[The Java Posse] Re: Scala is a troll language. Rebuttals anyone ?

On Sep 30, 12:41 pm, Kevin Wright wrote: > Not so!  Lisp came a full 14 years before Smalltalk, and Fortran was 4 years > before that! > Fortran definitely still has strong advocates amongst the scientific > community :) > Of course, if you want to go all the way back to zealotry over the lambda >

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

IBM had a decoder for the "base" MPEG-4 codec (which preceded H.264, and is in some ways a tweaked H.263) working in Java back in 2003. http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/tk4mpeg4 I don't doubt for a second that H.264 decoding, at least for the simpler profiles that are in widespread use today, w

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

I am on Motorola's mailing list due to needing to register as a developer to access JSR informations on Motorola Phones and the email I got from Motorola about the Milestone 2 said it is Android 2.2 I think. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java P

[The Java Posse] Re: Recommended Android Phones

The T-Mobile Glacier is rumored to be the upcoming dual core phone (though the project name they chose for that doesn't exactly bring to mind images of blazing speed), though it is an HTC phone if you are dead set against them. I'm considering a G2 as an upgrade to my aging G1, but again its an HT

Re: [The Java Posse] Recommended Android Phones

> > I was looking a bit at the Motorola Milestone 2. (I think this one is > the Droid 2 or Droid X elsewhere but may be wrong). > I have this one and I'm very about it, especially because of the small keyboard. This make the phone somehow bigger (which I actually like, it's harder to loose), but i

[The Java Posse] Recommended Android Phones

I am looking at buying an Android phone. If I am patient I will wait and get one for Christmas otherwise I may crack and get one sooner. I wonder if there are any recommendations. It is a pain that the main manufacturers are fond of calling the same phone a different name depending where in the w

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala is a troll language. Rebuttals anyone ?

Not so! Lisp came a full 14 years before Smalltalk, and Fortran was 4 years before that! Fortran definitely still has strong advocates amongst the scientific community :) Of course, if you want to go all the way back to zealotry over the lambda calculus... On 30 September 2010 12:03, Vince O'Sul

[The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

Not wishing to perpetuate any flames but I just wanted to shake my bacon for a second. I do find it ironic that developers complain of being tethered with old, underpowered, languages. Yet they criticise anything esoteric or not suitable for immediate use by a monkey. How often do you hear "we'd a

[The Java Posse] Re: Scala is a troll language. Rebuttals anyone ?

On Sep 29, 8:22 am, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Casper Bang wrote: > I have seen a lot of language advocacy over these past twenty years > (comp.lang.advocacy ftw!) but none has come even remotely close to the > intolerance and aggressiveness shown by Scala advocates

[The Java Posse] Re: Relative productivity of C/C++ relative to Java

On Sep 28, 1:49 pm, Carl Jokl wrote: > I wonder for those who have extensive C/C++ experience how productive > a highly experience C/C++ developer can be relative to Java. If "productivity" is limited to just the speed with which raw code is laid down by a lone coder then there may well be measur

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: A word on the language discussions

I spend a good portion of my day wishing the Omniscient Debugger was usable (yes, I forked it on github, looked at it, did nothing at all on it and then deleted my fork) so that I could easily see where a value originated. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Casper Bang wrote: > Good point Miroslav,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Martin Odersky says: Skills required

Perhaps it's worth looking at what Kevin's replying to, as well as what he's saying. 2010/9/30 Cédric Beust ♔ : > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, B Smith-Mannschott > wrote: >> >> I found Kevin's to be a level-headed summary of the >> similarities/differences between Scala and Java. > > Tha