Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Bob
If the talking installer isn’t talking then this points to some more fundamental issue with the laptop. Have you checked to see if Narrator talks? I have seen issues before where certain sound drivers disturb the speech in both narrator and eloquence. Go to device manager and uninstall your

[JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread t. conley
when I go to my laptop’s control panel, there is no add or remove programs listed on the page. how can I open the list, and add this heading to the control panel? not sure if I use win 7 or xp For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Moderator
Hi Chela, Please take note, I changed the subject line to reflect the topic being discussed, since the introduction has already been made. In Windows 7, the Documents and Settings folder is hidden, that's why you don't see it. The folders and files you are looking for should be located in the

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Rick Justice
Hi T, If you don't know which version of Windows you are using, it will be harder for others to help you. If you are using Windows XP, Add/Remove Programs will show up in the control panel. If you are using Windows 7, it will be listed as Programs and Features. Also, if you are using Windows 7,

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread t. conley
thank you so much. you solved both of my problems with the same answer -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs Hi T, If you don't know which version of Windows

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Pablo Morales
Hmm, well. Let me think. What version of windows do you have. You don't know it. Ok, a easy way is if you can get a description of your windows. For example, when you press the windo key, you heard something like Start menu, to navigate up or down arrow? then you have windows xp. but if you

[JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Annette Carr
Hello All, I am looking for recommendations for how a JAWS 12 or 14 user can provide feedback and recommended edits to a MS-Word 2010 document. Everyone on the team provides their input to the document through track changes or by making pen marks on the hardcopy. The business need of the

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Narrator works and I don't feel like taking my chance of not having any sound at all by uninstalling the built-in sound card which is Realtech -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place;

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
In windows 7 it should be a link, the question of whether the programs show up or not in the list to uninstall, which seems to be not the case with me, actually, the programs don't show up as a list like it did when I used to have WinXP, but they don't show up in add/remove programs nor the

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Ok I went under the first folder option using my username, and I saw the following and don't know what to look for and to do after that. The list I see is: Local, LocalLow and Roaming. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Pablo Morales
when you are in control panel, find programs and features. There find jaws, and with the application key, down arrow until uninstall. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re:

[JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Arianna
I was looking at my granddaughter's Samsung Galaxy tablet yesterday which had a bluetooth keyboard in it's case and it got me wondering if any of the tablets sold today would work with JAWS 14. Hers is an Android system and I don't know if that comes with screen reading software or not. does

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Or alternatively I could do what I just did, type in the search box in the start menu the words uninstall jaws which did it for me. -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is

[JAWS-Users] how to learn how to use WLM 2012.

2013-10-13 Thread jim rawls
Hi all, ok I am behind the times, but I don’t know how to use WLM 2012. One thing is, I don’t understand how to use the ribbon, and I don’t know how to set up my BCC field and set up my rules in this thing. So, what to do? I am using jaws 15, latest beta, and WLM 2012 on a windows 7 home

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Hello All, I think I'm finally getting somewhere, but you can kindly input whether or not I'm on the right track of thinking seeing as is I'm still waking up and have already gotten ready for church, so here is what I was able to do and here is what I'm thinking. I went into my user appdata

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Steve
Do you have your Pc set to show hidden files? - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error Ok I uninstalled JAWS again

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
How do I do that, Steve? -- Teachers have a sacred task: It is to give children the skills to understand the world and an expectation that the world is a trustworthy place; that it is full of light, and love, and music and that each student deserves--and will have--their own place in it and

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Chela, As in Windows XP, sometimes it takes a few seconds for the list of programs to populate. In Windows 7, the list of programs is a true list, and can be navigated by first letter. If you are in the correct place, and are not getting a list, then I suspect there are other problems with

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Steve, Documents and Settings in Windows 7 is a hidden system folder, best left alone by less experienced users. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Arianna, If it is running the Windows operating system, then it should be useable with Jaws, especially version 15. Just remember as with all computers, results will vary. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread Steve
That's because Windows 7 changed the way directories are layed out. I think you need to look in c:\users\ and then go from there. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [JAWS-Users] how to learn how to use WLM 2012.

2013-10-13 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Jim, Give this a look: http://www.jaws-users.com/text/email/WLM/index.html HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users. com

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Pablo Morales
if you have more than jaws installed, just delete the folder called jaws that is inside freedom. But, is very important that you 1. uninstalled jaws. 2. Delete the freedom folder in program files. 3. delete the jaws or freedom folder in the folder that you are saying. After this steps, do not

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Arianna
Okay, rick, I'll have to look into this further. I don't want to buy something and then find out I can't used it. Thanks. Arianna - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [JAWS-Users] no add or remove programs

2013-10-13 Thread Jorge Rivas
Chela, Do a restart and then check your add remove And like Rick said, give it time to load up. Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:30 AM To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Jorge Rivas
Hi, Since this is a work envirement issue my idea maybe won't float with you guys. But, I am familiar on how a network system works. For example, worker 1 writes in their comments and the file is transfer through the share folder, worker 2 writes in their comments and etc etc. Ok, now whatever was

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW

2013-10-13 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
It appears that if you launch IE from the taskbar in Windows7 as I do, that the program is already maximized. Nevertheless, I often find myself manually maximizing because the last few JAWS versions have had the same issue John reported- JFW not reading correctly which link has focus, and my issue

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't back-link in IE10 with JFW

2013-10-13 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
I don't think so... IE10 seems to warn me of any pop-up windows. In fact, I've been unable to get Alt-n to bring up the responses and end up going to the Tools menu and allowing the pop-up there. There are times when 2 back-link commands will go back one page- but am unable to detect a pattern so

[JAWS-Users] What is the correct start JAWS setting if there is no log on screen?

2013-10-13 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
I see that my installation of JFW14 has both start jaws at log-on and start jaws after log-on unchecked- nevertheless, jaws does start talking. Does anyone know what this setting should be for folks without a log-on screen? Thanks. Cher For answers to frequently asked questions about this

Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction and a very annoying JAWS Error

2013-10-13 Thread David Ferrin
Like my partner said earlier please prune the subject line, it's longer than most messages please. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread David Ferrin
If memory serves only windows tablets will work with JAWS. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Arianna
Yes, that does make sense. I'm looking into this, if only for curiosity's sake. Arianna - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS If memory serves

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Marilyn Walker
Davidd, are these Windows tablets a brand or what? Where on the web can one find a complete explanation of tablets? Marilyn - Original Message - From: Arianna acale...@centurylink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]

Re: [JAWS-Users] Tablets and JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread David Ferrin
Honestly Eric would be the most qualified to answer your question. Tablets using the windows operating system is as far as my information goes, sorry. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original

Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Annette Carr
Hi George, Yes, we are using a network and I do not have a question about how to get the document from person to person. Rather, I want to know how, if possible to use JAWS with the Track Changes or Comments feature in MS-Word 2010. When Track Changes are on, JAWS reads everything that it

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Well, I tried what you said, the talking installer still won't come up talking especially when I've waited over 10 minutes before I started to get antsy and use NVDA no matter what synth I end up using with NVDA, I still get that error when the computer reboots after the fresh install of JAWS

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Well this Eloquence dilemma is getting worse because I tried to see if it would load for another program, knowing it works well with NVDA and not JAWS, it also is not working with Kurzweil 1000, because I tried to switch engines and voices, and I think the same file or files required by JAWS

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread David Ferrin
I must point out that using Eloquence with NVDA if memory serves is illegal. Also 19 lines for a signature, are you serious? Please read the guidelines a little more carefully. Note the polite manner you're being asked. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to

[JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display

2013-10-13 Thread Doug Oliver
Hey all! I'm having a bit of a concern. I'm wondering if there's a way to write a capital sign using computer braille? If someone can get back to me, that'd be great. thanks, Doug For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display

2013-10-13 Thread Tim Bennett
You can't do a capital sign in computer braille. You add dot 7 to the letter to capitalize it. Tim Bennett Indianapolis, IN For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, It would seem reasonable to me that perhaps if a call to FS tech support is placed they could initiate a tandem session with your machine in an effort to help resolve this problem. Whether you or an agency meeting your needs purchased jfw for you someone is paying for the

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
The problem is that they won't be able to do a JAWS Tandem because JAWS closes once it displays the error. BTW is my Signature short enough for you all now? -- Chela Robles Sent from HPG72 Windows 7 Laptop -- On 10/13/2013 5:17 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, It would seem

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred. Good luck in your quest for a resolution. Robin -Original Message- From: Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:36 PM To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
Thanks I'm going to keep trying until I'm blue in the face. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:50 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Yes I understand I'm sorry I hadn't read every message in the thread and didn't realize it wasn't fully installed before the failure occurred. Good luck in your quest

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread David Ferrin
Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf

Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus braille display

2013-10-13 Thread Doug Oliver
Thanks tim. That worked. Thanks, Doug -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bennett Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] computer braille with the focus

Re: [JAWS-Users] Editing Word DOC When Using JAWS

2013-10-13 Thread Brian Lee
Hello Annette, Here are a few things you might be able to use. I had some notes that I created some time ago that I am pasting below. Take care. TRACKING REVISIONS USING JAWS AND WORD 2010 Turn tracking on by using CTRL+shift+E. If using insert+v to bring up JAWS verbosity, press the

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
I will not be writing you guys soon, gotta unsubscribe, thanks for trying to help me though. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:57 PM, David Ferrin wrote: Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Chela Robles
I wasn't being sarcastic. -- Chela Robles -- On 10/13/2013 5:57 PM, David Ferrin wrote: Yes it's fine now, BTW a little sarcasm doesn't bother me. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Sherri
I admire your dilligence. When I get stuck on a computer problem, I try and try and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, so I totally get your statement. - Original Message - From: Chela Robles cdrobles...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, October 13,

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to install Jaws

2013-10-13 Thread Flor Lynch
The version of Eloquence with JAWS is locked into JAWS, and it as such has NO EFFECT on any other program. . Can you uninstall your Eloquence (for NVDA) and then try the JAWS install? Then afterwards, if you like, once JAWS has been successfully ins talled, try reinstalling the Eloquence you