Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[michaeel's mail]

It is happening on mainly couple of my machines they all running the latest 
full version of win 10 creaters.

It is very anoying.
Cheers.

-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Sometimes it happens me on Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. Usually I
resolve this by using Touch Cursor with Advanced Object Navigation Mode to
find the Logon screen window and, beneat it, the Password edit box. When I
find it, I press ENTER to route PC cursor as normal.

2017-07-19 0:54 GMT-03:00 michael fridey :


Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in
screen.

I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[michaeel's mail]

Okay Jim but is it a win 10 issue or a jaws problem.
chees Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Yes, this is an issue from time to time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of michael fridey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in 
screen.


I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[michaeel's mail]

Hi Doug i actually find if i only need to do a restart jaws sees the sign in 
box every time.

But from a fresh boot up i have trouble.
Cheers michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Doug Murray

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hello

I find that if you do a shut down and restart, and then do a shut dow, Jaws 
and windows10 will start OK.

Give it a try.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche

Sent: July 19, 2017 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Yes, this is an issue from time to time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of michael fridey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in 
screen.


I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Mike B.]

Hi Mike,

Thank you very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike O'Brien
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs


Hi

Instead of Partition Assistant pro try downloading and installing Partition
Assistant Standard.  I haven't used it in a while, but the last time I used
it on Windows 7, it was accessable, although you needed to use the JAWS
cursor quite a bit.


-Original Message-


Re: [JAWS-Users] Need to partition the C drive into two parts with the help
of jaws

Mike O'Brien Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:08:08 -0800

 Hi

The tutorial on Partition Assistant says that the home edition is free to
use on 32 bit Windows.  But it looks like the home edition has been replaced
by a "standard" edition.  The standard edition of Partition Assistant is
free for both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Windows.  It looks like you can
use it with JAWS by following the steps in the tutorial.


On 19-Jul-2017 9:47 pm, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so
> she will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant
> Pro isn't accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what
> program I should use to get this partition created?  Will the Windows
> disk management tool handle this?  Thanks much.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
> the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[wayne smith]

Thanks- I opened the doc and now I need to look for a protecting doc and
give it a try.

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Wayne, I also have word 2010. Lately, I've found that pressing the alt key,
then the f, followed by I, e works. Like Justin, I used to find the sequence
began with alt-f pressed together but not lately, at least with Word 2010. 

One more thought. I might say to myself, "one and.." between each key press.
Thus, alt, one and, f, one and, I, etc. sounds silly, I know, but I think it
takes a moment for each key press to be processed. Then you should get an
outer space sound, at which you press the spacebar for "Yes." Then the
document will open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Justin, I tried the Alt-f i and e sequence in a Word 2010 doc and it did
nothing.  Is this method for later versions of MS Word only?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

The other way is to try to save it, and it gives you the ability to hit
enable editing if you use the right arror.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the
document is ready for editing.

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[wayne smith]

Thanks Adrian, I went into an old file list for a college class in Spanish
and opened a protected doc.  I used the sequence one stroke at a time as you
described and-bingo-I could work in the doc.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Wayne, I also have word 2010. Lately, I've found that pressing the alt key,
then the f, followed by I, e works. Like Justin, I used to find the sequence
began with alt-f pressed together but not lately, at least with Word 2010. 

One more thought. I might say to myself, "one and.." between each key press.
Thus, alt, one and, f, one and, I, etc. sounds silly, I know, but I think it
takes a moment for each key press to be processed. Then you should get an
outer space sound, at which you press the spacebar for "Yes." Then the
document will open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Justin, I tried the Alt-f i and e sequence in a Word 2010 doc and it did
nothing.  Is this method for later versions of MS Word only?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

The other way is to try to save it, and it gives you the ability to hit
enable editing if you use the right arror.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the
document is ready for editing.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] unlocking files

[Vicki]

When transferring a word document from one computer to another, the computer 
receiving the file is locking it.

I am using Office 2010 and I want to know how to stop this from happening 
permanently.

I wasn't sure if the instructions for protecting and unprotect a file would do 
the same thing, and I do want it to be a permanent change for all of my 
documents.


Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Mr. Ed]

Hi All,
For all of you that are having issues with IE. I would recommend to reset IE. I 
would give this a try and see if it works. Here are the instructions below to 
reset IE 11.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something about 
checking this box to delete  personal information. Press the 
spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new. 
Note checking the box about removing personal information will not remove your 
favorites in IE. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Well, no point in being a smart-alec, I did not say the rest of us are just 
losing our minds. I was just reporting what was going on over here, like all of 
us do on this list. This way we all know what is happening on different 
machines. No, no issues using Internet Explorer at all on my machine. Sorry if 
this upsets you. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and 

[JAWS-Users] test

[Holger Fiallo]

test
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[Adrian Spratt]

Wayne, I also have word 2010. Lately, I've found that pressing the alt key, 
then the f, followed by I, e works. Like Justin, I used to find the sequence 
began with alt-f pressed together but not lately, at least with Word 2010. 

One more thought. I might say to myself, "one and.." between each key press. 
Thus, alt, one and, f, one and, I, etc. sounds silly, I know, but I think it 
takes a moment for each key press to be processed. Then you should get an outer 
space sound, at which you press the spacebar for "Yes." Then the document will 
open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Justin, I tried the Alt-f i and e sequence in a Word 2010 doc and it did 
nothing.  Is this method for later versions of MS Word only?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

The other way is to try to save it, and it gives you the ability to hit enable 
editing if you use the right arror.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find 
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the document 
is ready for editing.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am using 
JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[wayne smith]

Justin, I tried the Alt-f i and e sequence in a Word 2010 doc and it did
nothing.  Is this method for later versions of MS Word only?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

The other way is to try to save it, and it gives you the ability to hit
enable editing if you use the right arror.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the
document is ready for editing.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

[Fernando Gregoire]

Like two antivirus softwares, as any other screen reader, JAWS and Narrator 
can't be run together, unless you configure JAWS into Sleep Mode in the JCF for 
the chat application.
Specifically, is the chat application Microsoft Skype for Business or Lync? If 
so, Dough Lee, which is the author of the well known JAWS scripts for Skype 
better than the ones built into JAWS, made scripts for SFB/Lync too, which 
you'll have interest to test.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Nancy B. Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18


Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  
I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.  

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the 
same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken 
by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I 
missed the first time?  

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both 
run at the same time? 

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy




 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

Instead of Partition Assistant pro try downloading and installing Partition
Assistant Standard.  I haven't used it in a while, but the last time I used
it on Windows 7, it was accessable, although you needed to use the JAWS
cursor quite a bit.


-Original Message-


Re: [JAWS-Users] Need to partition the C drive into two parts with the help
of jaws 

Mike O'Brien Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:08:08 -0800 

 Hi

The tutorial on Partition Assistant says that the home edition is free to
use on 32 bit Windows.  But it looks like the home edition has been replaced
by a "standard" edition.  The standard edition of Partition Assistant is
free for both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Windows.  It looks like you can
use it with JAWS by following the steps in the tutorial.  


On 19-Jul-2017 9:47 pm, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so 
> she will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant 
> Pro isn't accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what 
> program I should use to get this partition created?  Will the Windows 
> disk management tool handle this?  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
> the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 

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[JAWS-Users] Proboem with outlook 2013 and jaws 18 on windows ten

[Brian Zolo]

Good afternoon, folks, Brian Zolo here from Gahanna, Ohio.  I'm using jaws
18 on windows ten at work in conjunction with outlook 2013 and one
disconcerting thing I've noticed is that when trying to add a mailbox, jaws
no longer says the mailbox names when you're doing a search like it did in
earlier versions of outlook and previous versions of windows.  Now, jaws
just says not selected.  Another thing I'm noticing is that jaws is no
longer speaking the various tabs when you're in outlook options.  Sure would
appreciate finding out whether others have experienced this and what
remedial action you've taken to resolve this issue.  Brian Zolo 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[Justin Williams]

The other way is to try to save it, and it gives you the ability to hit
enable editing if you use the right arror.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the
document is ready for editing.

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[wayne smith]

I don't have Windows 10 but Windows 7 but I turn on the Jaws cursor and find
where it says "enable editing" and I route the PC cusor there and the
document is ready for editing.

Wayne

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Tom Behler]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

I use that key command all the time;  just didn't know its official name.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Michael Massey
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

The say all command for Jaws is the insert key and the down arrow key pressed 
simultaneously.  I guess it is fair to say it is the read to end command.  

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Pardon my ignorance here, but what exactly is the "say all" command?

Is it insert on the numpad plus the number 2?

I ask this because Jaws has occasionally crashed for me using this command as 
well with IE and Firefox.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.

-Original Message-
From: The Iowa Gal
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing 
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the 
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, 
> stop the computer from 

[JAWS-Users] Using Chat Windows with JAWS 18

[Nancy B . Gibson]

Hi List,

We're starting to use a phone system at work that includes chat capability.  
I'm new to Windows 10 and to JAWS so struggling a little to keep up.  

Since apparently I'm supposed to be able to listen to JAWS and the TTS at the 
same time, if I'm focusing on JAWS when a chat message comes in and is spoken 
by the TTS, is there a way to have the message reread so I can hear what I 
missed the first time?  

Are there any command conflicts between JAWS and Narrator if they have to both 
run at the same time? 

Hope that makes sense.

Nancy




 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[Doug Murray]

Hello

I find that if you do a shut down and restart, and then do a shut dow, Jaws and 
windows10 will start OK.
Give it a try.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: July 19, 2017 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Yes, this is an issue from time to time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of michael fridey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in screen.

I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Michael Massey]

The say all command for Jaws is the insert key and the down arrow key pressed 
simultaneously.  I guess it is fair to say it is the read to end command.  

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Pardon my ignorance here, but what exactly is the "say all" command?

Is it insert on the numpad plus the number 2?

I ask this because Jaws has occasionally crashed for me using this command as 
well with IE and Firefox.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.

-Original Message-
From: The Iowa Gal
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing 
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the 
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, 
> stop the computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to 
> anyone else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[David Ferrin]

I've been monitoring everything all day and I am quite sure nobody has 
caused any reason for hurt feelings.


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Ely

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Hi All,
Please remember that simply because we are running the same Windows version,
the same JAWS version and the same application does not mean that our
computers are in any way identical. Over time, all kinds of junk can get
installed that we are not aware of, lots of pieces of applications run in 
the
background and unless we look at those, we don't know they are running. All 
of
that makes it a challenge for tech support staff to figure out solutions. 
Lots
of us have commented on JAWS going silent, most of us have stated what we 
have

had to do to get the little guy talking again. Jim's statement was not meant
to say that others of us were crazy or incompetent. His report was just one
more bit of evidence for the Freedom sleuths to use to correct the issue.
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Well, no point in being a smart-alec, I did not say the rest of us are just
losing our minds. I was just reporting what was going on over here, like all
of us do on this list. This way we all know what is happening on different
machines. No, no issues using Internet Explorer at all on my machine. Sorry 
if

this upsets you. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds,
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now 
everything

works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable,

but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish 
i.e.

not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and
close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
annoyance.  Mitch

"The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they're real."

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[Adrian Spratt]

The drawback of this method is that it eliminates some security protection. The 
method Justin gives takes no time and maintains security.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

You can turn this off for all of your documents in word by following the 
following steps:
1.  Open Microsoft Word.  You can close the document that opens, if a blank one 
does load  at start-up.
2.  Press Alt plus F, followed by the letter T to bring up the options menu.
Use your arrow key  or press the letter T until you find the trust center 
option, and then tab over to the button that says Trust Center Settings.
Press enter or the spacebar to open this menu.
3.  Now use the arrow keys or press the letter P until you hear Protected View.
Once this is highlighted, press the tab key, and uncheck the three boxes that 
you hear announced.  
4.  Once you have unchecked these boxes, press the OK button, which should save 
your settings.  
5.  Lastly, try to open the file that you want to view in Word.  JAWS should 
now read it for you.  I hope this is helpful.  Good luck!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am using 
JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[jyandt.martin]

Mike:

Will this process for read only mode, or is that a different process? And 
thanks for the reply.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Mote

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

You can turn this off for all of your documents in word by following the
following steps:
1.  Open Microsoft Word.  You can close the document that opens, if a blank
one does load  at start-up.
2.  Press Alt plus F, followed by the letter T to bring up the options menu.
Use your arrow key  or press the letter T until you find the trust center
option, and then tab over to the button that says Trust Center Settings.
Press enter or the spacebar to open this menu.
3.  Now use the arrow keys or press the letter P until you hear Protected
View.
Once this is highlighted, press the tab key, and uncheck the three boxes
that you hear announced.
4.  Once you have unchecked these boxes, press the OK button, which should
save your settings.
5.  Lastly, try to open the file that you want to view in Word.  JAWS should
now read it for you.  I hope this is helpful.  Good luck!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[Mike Mote]

You can turn this off for all of your documents in word by following the
following steps:
1.  Open Microsoft Word.  You can close the document that opens, if a blank
one does load  at start-up.
2.  Press Alt plus F, followed by the letter T to bring up the options menu.
Use your arrow key  or press the letter T until you find the trust center
option, and then tab over to the button that says Trust Center Settings.
Press enter or the spacebar to open this menu.
3.  Now use the arrow keys or press the letter P until you hear Protected
View.
Once this is highlighted, press the tab key, and uncheck the three boxes
that you hear announced.  
4.  Once you have unchecked these boxes, press the OK button, which should
save your settings.  
5.  Lastly, try to open the file that you want to view in Word.  JAWS should
now read it for you.  I hope this is helpful.  Good luck!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Rick, thank you, yes, that's  all I was saying. With so many computer 
models, with so many various programs installed on all of our computers. Each 
person will have a different experience with the performance of Jaws. I was 
just giving a positive report on my setup, so others would know. Thanks and 
smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Ely
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Hi All,
Please remember that simply because we are running the same Windows version, 
the same JAWS version and the same application does not mean that our computers 
are in any way identical. Over time, all kinds of junk can get installed that 
we are not aware of, lots of pieces of applications run in the background and 
unless we look at those, we don't know they are running. All of that makes it a 
challenge for tech support staff to figure out solutions. Lots of us have 
commented on JAWS going silent, most of us have stated what we have had to do 
to get the little guy talking again. Jim's statement was not meant to say that 
others of us were crazy or incompetent. His report was just one more bit of 
evidence for the Freedom sleuths to use to correct the issue.
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Well, no point in being a smart-alec, I did not say the rest of us are just 
losing our minds. I was just reporting what was going on over here, like all of 
us do on this list. This way we all know what is happening on different 
machines. No, no issues using Internet Explorer at all on my machine. Sorry if 
this upsets you. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and 
close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> "The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they're real."
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[Justin Williams]

alt f I e

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am
using JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Protected Mode

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me how to get a word document out of protected view? I am using 
JAWS 17, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell Laptop. Many thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Rick Ely]

Hi All,
Please remember that simply because we are running the same Windows version, 
the same JAWS version and the same application does not mean that our 
computers are in any way identical. Over time, all kinds of junk can get 
installed that we are not aware of, lots of pieces of applications run in the 
background and unless we look at those, we don't know they are running. All of 
that makes it a challenge for tech support staff to figure out solutions. Lots 
of us have commented on JAWS going silent, most of us have stated what we have 
had to do to get the little guy talking again. Jim's statement was not meant 
to say that others of us were crazy or incompetent. His report was just one 
more bit of evidence for the Freedom sleuths to use to correct the issue.
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Well, no point in being a smart-alec, I did not say the rest of us are just 
losing our minds. I was just reporting what was going on over here, like all 
of us do on this list. This way we all know what is happening on different 
machines. No, no issues using Internet Explorer at all on my machine. Sorry if 
this upsets you. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and 
close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> "The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they're real."
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop 
> the computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me 

Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[Jim Flusche]

Yes, this is an issue from time to time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of michael fridey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in screen.

I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Jim Flusche]

Well, no point in being a smart-alec, I did not say the rest of us are just 
losing our minds. I was just reporting what was going on over here, like all of 
us do on this list. This way we all know what is happening on different 
machines. No, no issues using Internet Explorer at all on my machine. Sorry if 
this upsets you. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing 
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the 
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the 
> computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to 
> anyone else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Tom Behler]

Pardon my ignorance here, but what exactly is the "say all" command?

Is it insert on the numpad plus the number 2?

I ask this because Jaws has occasionally crashed for me using this command as 
well with IE and Firefox.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.

-Original Message-
From: The Iowa Gal
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now 
everything works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to 
be a bug somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish 
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go 
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop 
> the computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to
> anyone else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Mike B.]

Hi Glen,

Yes, that is correct, but I do backup everything to at least 4 other 
external sources.  I just keep a data partition to make it easier on the 
operating system for disk cleanup & defrag purposes.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Dialup @ 56k
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs


Hello Mike.
Not the answer you wanted, but having the data partition on the same
drive as you operating system defeats the purpose, in that if your OS
drive crashes, you loose your data as well.
Given that your OS drive does most of the work, it's the one more likely
to crash.
IMO, better / much safer to have a second separate drive for data.
Glen


---
On 19-Jul-2017 9:47 pm, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so she
> will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant Pro isn't
> accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what program I should 
> use
> to get this partition created?  Will the Windows disk management tool 
> handle
> this?  Thanks much.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[Fernando Gregoire]

Sometimes it happens me on Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. Usually I
resolve this by using Touch Cursor with Advanced Object Navigation Mode to
find the Logon screen window and, beneat it, the Password edit box. When I
find it, I press ENTER to route PC cursor as normal.

2017-07-19 0:54 GMT-03:00 michael fridey :

> Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in
> screen.
>
> I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.
>
> Is anybody else finding that.
>
> cheers Michael.
>
> --
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Maria Campbell]

I have JAWS crashes in Internet Explorer when going to what I call busy 
pages with lots of images and lots of other different content.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/19/2017 9:13 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using 
internet explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was 
told the same thing happens with the dectalk usb.


-Original Message- From: The Iowa Gal
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our 
minds, huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Flusche

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, 
the Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having 
no issues.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of JM Casey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of 
either JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and 
now everything works like a charm.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on 
a Win

7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's 
got to be a bug somewhere in the program.


When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the 
process manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is 
so sluggish i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading 
System Access to go and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws 
and its happy.


If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
annoyance.  Mitch

“The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they’re real.”

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, 
stop the computer from turning off.

It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to
anyone else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Enable content

[Fernando Gregoire]

Internet Explorer allows (and allowed more easyly in prior versions) to
edit web pages locally. That is possible in Firefox (and perhaps Chrome
too) with the Developer Tools, but they're not so intuitive. In IE this is
in the File menu, and in Firefox in Tools\Developer Tools.
If you want to edit a Word document downloaded from the Internet in Word
2010 or newer which by default open Word 97-2003 files in Protected View,
press F6 to go to the status bar and find the Enable Editing button there.

Hope it helps!

2017-07-18 22:57 GMT-03:00 Dale Alton :

> Hi all,
>
> I thought I remembered a keystroke to be able to see the notices like
> enable
> editing when a new web page came up.  Is there such a thing and if so what
> is the keystroke?
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Denver Dale
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.


-Original Message- 
From: The Iowa Gal

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of JM Casey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now 
everything works like a charm.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to 
be a bug somewhere in the program.


When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish 
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go 
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.


If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
annoyance.  Mitch

“The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they’re real.”

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop 
the computer from turning off.

It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to
anyone else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Dialup @ 56k]

Hello Mike.
Not the answer you wanted, but having the data partition on the same 
drive as you operating system defeats the purpose, in that if your OS 
drive crashes, you loose your data as well.
Given that your OS drive does most of the work, it's the one more likely 
to crash.

IMO, better / much safer to have a second separate drive for data.
Glen


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On 19-Jul-2017 9:47 pm, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so she
will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant Pro isn't
accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what program I should use
to get this partition created?  Will the Windows disk management tool handle
this?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws Accessible Partition Creating Programs

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I would like to partition my wifes new Lenovo Windows 7 OS drive, so she 
will have a data storage drive as well, but Partition Asisstant Pro isn't 
accessible with Jaws.  Would y'all please tell me what program I should use 
to get this partition created?  Will the Windows disk management tool handle 
this?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] test of leave

[David Ferrin]

Just a reminder we don't allow auto responders on here like out of office 
messages ETC. I don't know what leave email means on the other side of that 
coin.


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] test of leave

This is a test if my leave email worked.


"Whatever you are, be a good one."  ~ Abraham Lincoln

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