Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

[Adrian Spratt]

Peter, I believe this list will cease to operate at this address as of 
tomorrow, Monday. To rejoin at its new address, I'll copy David Moore's 
instructions. I'll add that you don't need to write anything in either message.

Just send an email to:
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You will get a conformation, and just reply to that, and you will get a 
moderator's message.
After that, just send your messages to:
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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
PeterTighe
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

Vickie,

This is helpful. Can you explain what you mean by open up the tabs?
What are the key strokes for this?
Are there any key strokes other than control-tab?

Thanks,

Peter

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

I am also using Windows 7 with both JAWS 14 and JAWS 2018. I found the trick to 
getting access is to make sure your sign in page is maximized. Once you have 
done that, then sign in and just open up the tabs you need. I use it for credit 
card only, though, so other areas may be different.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "PeterTighe" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site


> Adrian
>
> I am having problems with Bill pay and e-bills.
>
> Maybe my problem is that I am still using Windows 7.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web 
> site
>
> Peter,
>
> I've also had problems with BofA's website, but right now I can manage. 
> You
> need to explain the specific problems you're encountering. Also, which 
> section is causing them: checking, credit cards , etc.?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of PeterTighe
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of america web site
>
> Ever since the gank of America web site changes last Fall I haven't 
> Been able to use it except for Jaws version 14 which is rather out of date.
>
> Could anyone give me some clues. I would appreciate a private response 
> if you think it would be more appropriate.
> Thank you very much.
>
> Peter
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Miller
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:52 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding a gmail account to outlook
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to add another gmail account to my Outlook 2010 an am 
> having trouble. It isn't trying to go through itself but wanting me to 
> put the server info in manually. Does anyone know this info? I googled 
> it but don't understand what all the numbers and crap it is telling 
> me. outlook is not using the same phrasing as the googled info so 
> don't know what info to put where.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> "Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God."
>
> Corrie Ten Boom
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm not sure that Win7 explains it. I did find that Chrome worked much better 
with the website than did either IE or Firefox. Also, some link descriptions 
are counterintuitive. Unfortunately, all I have at BofA are credit cards, so I 
can't offer any specific suggestions.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
PeterTighe
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

Adrian

I am having problems with Bill pay and e-bills.

Maybe my problem is that I am still using Windows 7.

Thanks,

Peter


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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

Peter, 

I've also had problems with BofA's website, but right now I can manage. You 
need to explain the specific problems you're encountering. Also, which section 
is causing them: checking, credit cards , etc.? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
PeterTighe
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of america web site

Ever since the gank of America web site changes last Fall I haven't Been able 
to use it except for Jaws version 14 which is rather out of date.

Could anyone give me some clues. I would appreciate a private response if you 
think it would be more appropriate.
Thank you very much.

Peter
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Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding a gmail account to outlook

Hi all,

I am trying to add another gmail account to my Outlook 2010 an am having 
trouble. It isn't trying to go through itself but wanting me to put the server 
info in manually. Does anyone know this info? I googled it but don't understand 
what all the numbers and crap it is telling me. outlook is not using the same 
phrasing as the googled info so don't know what info to put where.

Thanks,

Kurt

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

[Adrian Spratt]

Peter, 

I've also had problems with BofA's website, but right now I can manage. You 
need to explain the specific problems you're encountering. Also, which section 
is causing them: checking, credit cards , etc.? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
PeterTighe
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of america web site

Ever since the gank of America web site changes last Fall I haven't Been able 
to use it except for Jaws version 14 which is rather out of date.

Could anyone give me some clues. I would appreciate a private response if you 
think it would be more appropriate.
Thank you very much.

Peter
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding a gmail account to outlook

Hi all,

I am trying to add another gmail account to my Outlook 2010 an am having 
trouble. It isn't trying to go through itself but wanting me to put the server 
info in manually. Does anyone know this info? I googled it but don't understand 
what all the numbers and crap it is telling me. outlook is not using the same 
phrasing as the googled info so don't know what info to put where.

Thanks,

Kurt

 

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Corrie Ten Boom

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

And to move focus to each of these fields, not just read them, hold  down he 
arrow key while pressing the number twice. These are the number keys above the 
letters.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 1:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

Hi Steven,

Have you tried Alt+1 through Alt+6 to hear the From, Sent, To, CC, Subject and 
BCC info?

Reed

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Sent: July 19, 2018 9:50 PM
To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

Hi friends,

Using the latest JAWS 2018 and Microsoft Outlook 2016.
If I open an email, I don't seem to be able to change in to JAWS cursor and 
read the top of the message heading where the to and cc fields are which is how 
I would normally check this.
Has anyone had any similar issues?
The only way I can read the to and cc fields is to shift+tab back to them and 
it is sometimes useful to use the JAWS cursor to read the top part of the 
screen.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

[Adrian Spratt]

This is worth clearing up. The following three keystrokes are often 
interchangeable, but not always: the applications key (located between the 
right-hand Windows and control keys), shift-F10 and the right mouse click key 
(numpad star key). Like several other keystrokes, they all open menus specific 
to where you are in an application. For whatever reason, it's called the 
"context men" when you press the applications key. I don't recall coming across 
that term for shift-F10 or the right mouse click. 

Again, all three keystrokes typically open the same menu choices, but not 
always. If you think an option ought to be available with the applications key 
but it doesn't show up, it's worth trying the other  two.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Well, that's because it's called the Applications Key. Haha it, or shift-f10 if 
you want the extended versions, opens up the context menu, which is called that 
because it's contextual/dependent on what sort of item you are focused on.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
sandy
Sent: July 1, 2018 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

not all people refer to the application key as the context menu

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Just curious, but have you not done this before? The context menus are one of 
the most integral/useful parts of windows for most people. In some cases it's 
hard to imagine using certain applications without them. Check out the context 
menus in file explorer!



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
LeDon
Sent: July 1, 2018 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

You wrote: 1. Open the context menu,

OK how do you open the context menu?
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

Hi Holger,
I tried this on the Apple Vis , Sendspace and Hadley Institute for the Blind

sites.
When you find the link for the mp3 you want, do this:
1. Open the context menu, and press enter on, "save link as".
2. When the dialogue opens,tab to the file type combo box, and down arrow to

all files, then tab to the save button, and press the spacebar.
The file should download to your default location.
Note:
This seems to be a standard "Save As", dialogue box.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome


This morning I went to applevis.com and attempted to download a podcast.
Normaly in IE, I find the link for the MP3 and IE will ask to run or safe.
Crome play the podcast instead of asking to save.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Audio Files with Chrome

To whoever initiated the original thread, Can you give an example of the 
website you are having trouble with?

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Folder Names

[Adrian Spratt]

See if you can get the folder names in focus, then go into the JAWS virtual 
window with JAWS key-alt-w. If I were you, I'd then select all with control-a, 
then copy with control-c. Escape to exit the virtual window. Now paste into a 
document and edit.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Folder Names

Morning all.

I hope I can explain what I am asking about and still make sense.

If I have multiple subfolders in a main folder, is there a way to copy the 
subfolder names and paste them into a Word 13 document, or would I have to type 
the names indivudally? I am running jaws 2018, Windows 10 and word 13 on a dell 
laptop. Thanks in advance for any help.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] changing how a word is red

[Adrian Spratt]

John, are you familiar with the JAWS dictionary, which enables you to force how 
words are pronounced? Here, you'll be trying to change a default that VFO has 
built into JAWS, but I assume you can override it.
Place focus on the "co." (including the full stop/period). 
Press JAWS key-d to open the JAWS dictionary.
If you want your change to apply across all applications, press 
control-shift-d. Otherwise, be sure your focus is in the app concerned, 
presumably your email client.
Press spacebar to add an entry.
Check that the first edit field has the three characters, co. If it doesn't, 
add the full stop.
Tab to the replacement edit field. Here, I imagine you'd type co, without the 
full stop.
Press enter.
Press control-s to save.
Exit with alt-F4.

It's possible this method won't work, but it may give you an idea how to tinker 
away to correct the pronunciation.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of mail
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] changing how a word is red

Hi all

Using outlook 2016, windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Jaws is reading my email address in outlook as @skyner.company.uk  .How can I 
change it to say .co instead of .company?

Thanks

John

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best program for reading PDFs

[Adrian Spratt]

Which version of JAWS are you using? 2018 will handle most PDF files, and a few 
earlier versions can work with many. Also, do you have Acrobat Reader 
installed, ideally version DC? Here, you'll want to set online PDF files to 
open in Acrobat rather than your browser.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sharon S
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best program for reading PDFs

Hi all, I have been sent a document I really need to read as soon as possible 
but it is a PDF and it appears I don't have a program on my laptop to read 
these. When I tried to open it straight from the email it opened in edge and I 
couldn't read anything. After I saved it to a folder in my documents and went 
to open it I got a list of programs I could use to open it but all I tried 
couldn't display the document. I tried opening it in notepad and got a lot of 
rubbish instead of what it was meant to be. So now I am wondering what the best 
program to use with Jaws 2018 and windows 10 is and where can I get it from?

 

I've been having trouble making the person on the other end understand what 
format I need because the first time she sent it to me it was a picture which 
of course Jaws couldn't read so I asked her to send it again in a word file. 
She then sent me a screen shot of the document so again I had to explain that 
jaws doesn't read pictures and asked again for a word version.
She is working on an iPad so she didn't have access to word so she finally sent 
me the PDF version. I'm afraid that this too will be a picture rather than an 
actual PDF but to find this out I need a program that will open it.

 

Thanks for any help.

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[Adrian Spratt]

Agreed. I now use IE11 as a backup, with Chrome as my default browser. Chrome's 
menu structure is horrible, even with the headings that Mike B alerted me to 
last month. However, it mostly operates the same way as IE11. Meanwhile, when I 
want to go to a favorite, I switch over to IE11. I also find it helpful that 
you can read difficult emails by sending them into IE11. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and Win
7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is an IE 
11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say straight out 
that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you use a different 
browser.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11


>
> Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS?  Does IE 11 seem to crash most 
> often on certain web sites?  If so, can you provide the address of a site 
> you are having trouble with?  I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have 
> experienced no issues with IE 11.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
> To: jaws users list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11
>
> With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
> crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
> work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
> anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Miriam
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

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Ask VFO, but I believe the condition is that the SMA be bought within two years 
of the previous SMA or JAWS purchase. Having JAWS 18 implies this criterion is 
met. But I may be overlooking something.

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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

A friend of mine is using JAWS 18.  Would he be able to buy a sma and be able 
to updade to JAWS 2018?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

[Adrian Spratt]

Go to your documents list and place focus against the one you wish to attach.
Press control-c to copy. 
Place focus in the message field of the email you will be sending. 
Paste with control-v.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

Adrian:

I either get to the attachment option via the Outlook menu, or I use Alt N 
which puts me in the menu as well.

I want to stress that this only started happening late yesterday evening, so 
I'm wondering if my issue has something to do with an Office 365 update.

Interestingly, I tried the process again late last night, and was successful, 
only to have it not work when I tried it for a third time.

Can you review for me your method for adding attachments, and I'll give it a 
try.

Tom Behler


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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

Tom, which method do you use to attach files? I copy the file I want attached 
into the message field, at which point it turns into an attachment.
It works every time. The only difference in our systems is that I use Office 
2016, not 360. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:27 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

Hello, again.

 

Sorry for the additional post.

 

I thought I should add that I'm using Jaws 2018 with Windows 7 here.

 

Again, the issue is with Outlook 2016 in Office 365.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

[Adrian Spratt]

Tom, which method do you use to attach files? I copy the file I want attached 
into the message field, at which point it turns into an attachment. It works 
every time. The only difference in our systems is that I use Office 2016, not 
360. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:27 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook E-mail Attachment Problem: Additional Detail

Hello, again.

 

Sorry for the additional post.

 

I thought I should add that I'm using Jaws 2018 with Windows 7 here.

 

Again, the issue is with Outlook 2016 in Office 365.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Inquiry

[Adrian Spratt]

To your first question, open the application, make sure focus is in that 
application, and then press JAWS key+control+v. this version number keystroke 
works for all applications.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Inquiry

Afternoon all.

I have two questions regarding Windows Live Mail. First of all, I have 
attempted to find out which version of WLM I have, without success. Could 
anyone enlighten me on how to do this?

Second, again using WLM, I am having a frustrating issue. Whenever I am in my 
inbox, I will open a message, but JAWS will not read the message; with the 
exception of sometimes using the jaws cursor. Any ideas or suggestions? I am 
using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 OS on a Dell laptop. Many thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm glad it helped. FYI, numpad 2 and the numpad down arrow are the same key.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi, thanks for this option. I have only had this version of jaws installed for 
a day so can't say if I have it happening at other times. I must admit I don't 
tend to switch off my laptop that often because I have trouble sleeping at 
night so I leave it on so I can play with it when I can't get to sleep. I did 
the reset that was required for the jaws update but haven't switched it off or 
reset it since. I will probably turn it off tomorrow because I will be out for 
a few hours and will see if it fixes itself after that.

While writing this message I decided to highlight a word and check your 
suggestion. Well it doesn't work here, instead it says "this is not available 
outside a table". However I was able to get Jaws to say which word was 
highlighted by pressing jaws key + shift + down arrow. But if it wasn't for 
your suggestion I would have never thought of using such a key combination.

Thanks.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

I've experienced this problem inconsistently. You can have JAWS verbalize 
selected text by pressing shit+JAWS key+numpad 2. Not ideal, since selected 
text should be spoken immediately, but an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi all, I am running windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2018. After 
doing the latest update when trying to select words in a word document or email 
Jaws doesn't tell me what is being highlighted. Jaws lets me know what I am 
highlighting when in an email inbox or in my document folder. This has only 
started after the last upgrade and I haven't changed any settings. I have tried 
pressing insert S to go through those settings but none of them fix the issue.

 

There is no problems highlighting text on webpages.

 

Hoping someone can help because I do allot of copying and pasting between 
documents.

 

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Annette,

As in previous versions, JAWS key+c still reads the spell-checked word in 
context when you're in Word 2016. However, when in an Outlook 2016 email, it 
doesn't. In that case, the "say line" command works. 

I'm having no problem getting spell-check to accept "c" on my system, and I'm 
not experiencing any delays involving JAWS and spell-checker. I have Windows 7, 
latest release of JAWS 2018 and, again, Office 2016.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
amca...@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 7:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

Spell check in Word is a bit tempormental.  As already stated, you cannot use 
the Alt key combination to change, ignore, etc, but it still works in Outlook.  
I find that when in Word just pressing the letter C for Change, etc. does not 
work.  I then resort to Tabbing to the button I want and pressing Enter.  
Sometimes this does not work as there is a significant delay in getting a 
response to executing a command.  I resort to pressing Escape and start over.  

Does anyone have an idea on how to get the spell check to read the word in 
context?  I resort to exiting out of spell check, and navigating around the 
document or message until I find something that seems to be the word in 
question.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 6:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

Wayne,

You seem to be asking at least two questions. First, spell-checker does work in 
Word 2016, but it operates a little differently. For example, to accept a 
changed spelling, I press the letter "c" alone instead of alt-c. MS Word
2016 calls the alt key in this context an "accelerator."

Second, you can stop Word from making corrections as you type. Press alt-f, 
then t, then arrow down to "proofing." From here, you tab through the options. 
I suggest tabbing through all of them to find out what they are before you 
start making changes. 

Note: Although Word on my system requires that I not use the alt key when using 
the spell-checker, spell-checker works as before when I'm in Outlook 2016. I 
have Outlook set to use Word when I write messages, so it's possible there are 
settings in Word that I haven't explored. But except for the alt key and some 
other variations, I find Word 2016's spell-checker works just fine.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
wayne smith
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

Hello all- I had the chance to try out a PC with Windows 10 and Ms Word 2016 
and when I tried using the Spell Check feature, which used to be a simple task, 
it was a mess for me. In previous versions I simply pressed F7 and I was off 
going through my doc.  I have not tried using spell check lately so can anybody 
tell me if it has improved in 2016 or which version of Word I would need to use 
to have a working spell check? I do a lot of writing and I do not want spell or 
grammar check while I am writing and want to go back to correct and edit later 
without all sorts of extra options.

 

Wayne

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

[Adrian Spratt]

I've experienced this problem inconsistently. You can have JAWS verbalize 
selected text by pressing shit+JAWS key+numpad 2. Not ideal, since selected 
text should be spoken immediately, but an option.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Not talking when highlighting words

Hi all, I am running windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2018. After 
doing the latest update when trying to select words in a word document or email 
Jaws doesn't tell me what is being highlighted. Jaws lets me know what I am 
highlighting when in an email inbox or in my document folder. This has only 
started after the last upgrade and I haven't changed any settings. I have tried 
pressing insert S to go through those settings but none of them fix the issue.

 

There is no problems highlighting text on webpages.

 

Hoping someone can help because I do allot of copying and pasting between 
documents.

 

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Wayne,

You seem to be asking at least two questions. First, spell-checker does work in 
Word 2016, but it operates a little differently. For example, to accept a 
changed spelling, I press the letter "c" alone instead of alt-c. MS Word 2016 
calls the alt key in this context an "accelerator."

Second, you can stop Word from making corrections as you type. Press alt-f, 
then t, then arrow down to "proofing." From here, you tab through the options. 
I suggest tabbing through all of them to find out what they are before you 
start making changes. 

Note: Although Word on my system requires that I not use the alt key when using 
the spell-checker, spell-checker works as before when I'm in Outlook 2016. I 
have Outlook set to use Word when I write messages, so it's possible there are 
settings in Word that I haven't explored. But except for the alt key and some 
other variations, I find Word 2016's spell-checker works just fine.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
wayne smith
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spell Check in MS Word 2016

Hello all- I had the chance to try out a PC with Windows 10 and Ms Word 2016 
and when I tried using the Spell Check feature, which used to be a simple task, 
it was a mess for me. In previous versions I simply pressed F7 and I was off 
going through my doc.  I have not tried using spell check lately so can anybody 
tell me if it has improved in 2016 or which version of Word I would need to use 
to have a working spell check? I do a lot of writing and I do not want spell or 
grammar check while I am writing and want to go back to correct and edit later 
without all sorts of extra options.

 

Wayne

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I get jaws to quick announcing space marker and paragraph marker

[Adrian Spratt]

Mike,

This second method no longer works in Word 2016, and Brian Lee indicated it 
doesn't in 2013. It used to work in 2003. I don't know when it ceased working.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 4:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i get jaws to quick announcing space marker 
and paragraph marker

Hi Andy,

Here are 2 ways of doing this:
#1:
Press, Alt+ F, then press, T, to open Word options.  You'll be in a list of 
categories. Arrow down once to display. Then tab right and you'll eventually 
come across various formatting options to uncheck, including tabs, spaces, and 
then paragraph marks.

#2:
Press, Control, Shift, + 8, on the number row to toggle off the formatting.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers.
Sent from my iBarstool.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough 
people to make it worth the effort.
- Original Message -
From: andy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i get jaws to quick announcing space marker and 
paragraph marker


Hey, I thought I had this file from here once before also, but after looking I 
moved it and don't remember where.

I spent all morning organizing and putting jaws related in folder, apple 
related in a folder and so on and so on.. so if someone can help me with the 
jaws keys to quit announcing space marker and paragraph marker I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Thanks

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I get jaws to quick announcing space marker and paragraph marker

[Adrian Spratt]

Andy,

Alt, then h, then 8 on the number row above the letters.  Thanks go to Brian 
Lee.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
andy 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i get jaws to quick announcing space marker and 
paragraph marker

Hey, I thought I had this file from here once before also, but after looking I 
moved it and don't remember where. 

I spent all morning organizing and putting jaws related in folder, apple 
related in a folder and so on and so on.. so if someone can help me with the 
jaws keys to quit announcing space marker and paragraph marker I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Thanks 

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

[Adrian Spratt]

The delete key won't work here. Instead, press the applications key and either 
arrow down to "Delete" or press d until you hear "Delete." Then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 9:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

I added a website by pressing control plus D and then tabbing to add to 
favorites. At least, I think that's what I did. However, I tried arrowing to a 
site I wanted to delete and pressing delete, and that didn't seem to work.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

Hello, Miriam. When I want to add a site to my Favorites, I arrow to Add to 
Favorites and press enter. I then press Shift+Tab twice to reach the Add 
button. That's it. If you wish to remove a site, just arrow to it and press 
Delete. The New Folder button can be used if you wish to place the site in a 
different folder. I have never used it. Remember that the deleted site will go 
to your Recycle Bin and remain there until you remove it. While it's in the 
Recycle Bin, it can also be restored. HTH.

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

OK, I found directions for organizing alphabetically. I still want to know how 
to properly add websites although I just did one, apparently, correctly.
And I want to know how to delete the ones that I don't want anymore.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:51 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

Can someone please, once again, explain how to organize my favorites in I E
11 so that they are in alphabetic order in one column? Also, when I want to add 
a new website and am on the website and after I press control D, precisely what 
do I do to add the website? There's a button for new folder.
What does that mean?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, George. Your question is valid but slightly different from the original one 
in this thread. 

The fastest way I know to get to the top of the folders list is to press 
control-e while outside the messages. Tab twice to find yourself in a list of 
folders. Press home to get to the top folder. 

You'd want to be doing something there, such as creating a new folder.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

Hi Adrian,
I am afraid we have some confusion on terms.
When I am in my Inbox reading my email that is where I assume you are talking 
about,.  When I Shift + TAB  I do not find me at the top of my folders tree.  I 
have 66 or 68 folders so this is important to me.
Shift + TAB appears to be the key stroke but from what point to get me to the 
top of the tree of my folders so that I can either arrow or TAB  down them.

George A. Martinez, CPA
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loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

Fred, don't shift-tab from the inbox, but from the inbox's message list. In 
fact, when you're at the inbox folder, that's where you want to be.

For the record, it doesn't matter which folder has focus, so long as you're in 
the folders list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fred C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

Mr Ed, thanks much and what
you say is exactly what I have
been doing but I get a
different result.  When I go
to in box and press shift tab
jaws then says submit search
button.  If I press shift tab
again jaws then says search
query button.  I must have a
setting turned off someplace
but I can't figure where.  Do
you have any suggestions as to
where I might start looking?
Will appreciate any
suggestions.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-bounce
s...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018
1:26 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
Deleting and renaming folders

Hi Fred,
First of all it does not
matter what internet browser
you are using as to what you
want to do in Outlook 2010.
Now if you want to delete a
folder first go to your inbox.
Now do a shift + tab to get to
your folder list. Now arrow up
or down until you hear the
folder you want to delete or
rename. Now press the
application key and I menu
will come up. Now arrow down
to either rename or delete the
folder you want by pressing
enter on what you want done in
the menu.
Hope this helps.
Mr. Ed

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s...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Fred C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018
8:47 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users]
Deleteing and renaming folders

I am using W-10, latest jaws,
outlook 2010 and chrome
browser and I am having
problems deleteing and
renaming folders in outlook
2010.  I have done this many
times before without problems
but something must have
changed or my memory has
failed me.  I was using IE 11
browser before though and that
might be the problem.  I would
appreciate any help on this
very much.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
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THE DAY IS AT HAND




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

[Adrian Spratt]

Fred, don't shift-tab from the inbox, but from the inbox's message list. In 
fact, when you're at the inbox folder, that's where you want to be.

For the record, it doesn't matter which folder has focus, so long as you're in 
the folders list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fred C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

Mr Ed, thanks much and what
you say is exactly what I have
been doing but I get a
different result.  When I go
to in box and press shift tab
jaws then says submit search
button.  If I press shift tab
again jaws then says search
query button.  I must have a
setting turned off someplace
but I can't figure where.  Do
you have any suggestions as to
where I might start looking?
Will appreciate any
suggestions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-bounce
s...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018
1:26 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
Deleting and renaming folders

Hi Fred,
First of all it does not
matter what internet browser
you are using as to what you
want to do in Outlook 2010.
Now if you want to delete a
folder first go to your inbox.
Now do a shift + tab to get to
your folder list. Now arrow up
or down until you hear the
folder you want to delete or
rename. Now press the
application key and I menu
will come up. Now arrow down
to either rename or delete the
folder you want by pressing
enter on what you want done in
the menu.
Hope this helps.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-bounce
s...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Fred C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018
8:47 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users]
Deleteing and renaming folders

I am using W-10, latest jaws,
outlook 2010 and chrome
browser and I am having
problems deleteing and
renaming folders in outlook
2010.  I have done this many
times before without problems
but something must have
changed or my memory has
failed me.  I was using IE 11
browser before though and that
might be the problem.  I would
appreciate any help on this
very much.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
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THE DAY IS AT HAND




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Jerry.

Dave and Rebecca have posted the JAWS alternative that works fine in most 
instances. However, the MS find function can  be helpful in other ways, so I'd 
like to try to suggest what may be going wrong for you. 

With JAWS find (JAWS key+control+f), you can only search for whole words. So if 
you remembered the word you wanted was a verb such as "talk," but not whether 
it was talked, talking, etc., you'd have to search over and over until you 
landed on the place you were searching for. MS find isn't limited to words; you 
can also search for partial words, etc.

Another nice feature of the MS search function is that it will tell you how 
many instances of your search string appear in the document, and also which one 
you're focused on. JAWS find does none of that.

Finally, with MS find you can search for paragraph breaks, tabs and other 
useful targets. Again, you can't do any of this with JAWS find.

In my experience, the first time I open an MS find, nothing happens. I press 
control-f, type in my search string, then press enter. Nothing. However, I then 
press control-f again and JAWS verbalizes the search string I just typed. Now I 
press enter, and I'm taken to the first instance of that string. 

Here, take care to listen on pressing that enter key. You will be given the 
context, such as the entire line where the result appears. You'll also be told 
to click on "Next" for the next instance. If you've arrived where you want to 
be, press escape to exit the find function. If you're looking for a different 
instance, press the spacebar.

If you move on to the next instance, you're now told the number of examples of 
this string in the document and which of those instances you're focused on, as 
well as the current context. 

The MS find function isn't completely consistent. For example, sometimes it 
commences a search the first time I do the find command, sometimes not. It  
took me some getting used to, and like Rebecca and Dave, I most often use JAWS 
find. but learning how to work with MS find was well worth the trouble.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

Morning all.

I have a curious problem regarding MS Word 2013. For some strange reason, I 
cannot seem to get the Control F (find) function to work. I can go through the 
ribbons and get to the function that way, but it will not work either. Has 
anyone ever come across this problem as well, and if so, what was the remedy? 
Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Some PDFs do not read properly

[Adrian Spratt]

John, 

This may not assist you directly, but lately when I've encountered this 
problem, I've found that the JAWS convenient OCR feature reproduces the text 
with the spaces between words intact. I don't recall if JAWS convenient OCR was 
included with JAWS 16. If it was, you might try it and compare results. 
Keystrokes: JAWS key+spacebar, then separately o for OCR , then d for document. 
The process can be slow. The results will be displayed in a separate window.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jmule
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Some PDFs do not read properly

Hi all,


For a while now, I have noticed that some PDFs are not read properly by Jaws or 
NVDA. What happens is that multiple words are read as one long word, with no 
spaces between the words. This is not on all PDFs, just some. I have never 
encountered this problem with PDFs that I have created using either MS Word or 
PDF995. On the PDFs that have a problem, I have extracted them to text files 
and the problem will also show up in the text file. Someone had once suggested 
that the problem is related to the original font being used, but that does not 
make any sense. So, Can anyone shed a little light on this problem?


Here is a link to a PDF with the problem I have described (from last weeks Top 
Tech Tidbits newsletter):

http://bit.ly/2GKOuSC



I am using Windows 7, Jaws 16/NVDA 2018.1 and Acrobat Reader DC 
2018.011.20040.


Thanks,

John



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deleting and renaming folders

[Adrian Spratt]

The browser makes no difference to how Outlook 2010 operates. Can you post the 
method you're using for deleting and renaming folders? Then people could chime 
in with suggestions for what might have gone wrong. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fred C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Deleteing and renaming folders

I am using W-10, latest jaws,
outlook 2010 and chrome
browser and I am having
problems deleteing and
renaming folders in outlook
2010.  I have done this many
times before without problems
but something must have
changed or my memory has
failed me.  I was using IE 11
browser before though and that
might be the problem.  I would
appreciate any help on this
very much.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT AND
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[Adrian Spratt]

Rebecca, if I understand one of your points correctly, you can replay JAWS 
verbalizations by pressing JAWS key+spacebar, then separately h. Wait a few 
moments, then arrow down through the text. Press escape to get out of the 
window.
As for those JAWS icons in the system tray, yes, one appears each time you 
unload and reload JAWS.  However, only one will bring up the JAWS window. Click 
on the others and the icon disappears. Which one is the active one? I'm not 
sure there's a pattern.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hello Mike.
I'm running Windows 10, 1803, with JAWS 2018, May update.
I recently noticed that when I go to the system tray to remove a drive, I no 
longer receive the message that it's safe to remove the drive.
Another friend called me yesterday with the same issue.  I just assume that 
it's safe.  If I go back to the system tray before removing the drive, the 
option to remove it shows as unavailable, as it should.
I don't know how to capture or replay those fleeting messages with JAWS.  If I 
virtualize the window, JAWS says there's no text.  I haven't had a sighted 
person look at the screen.
I can use the context menu on the drive, but again, I get no spoken message.
On another matter, has anyone else seen multiple copies of JAWS shown in the 
system tray after JAWS was shut down and restarted?  Shouldn't JAWS be removed 
if it's shut down.  This happens with both insert-f4 and insert-windows-f4. 
Sometimes my save as menu won't work in Word.  If I shut JAWS down and bring it 
back, the menu reads as it should. 
I much prefer running JAWS from the system tray, so that it won't be in the 
alt-tab line up.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you, and maybe a lot of us, about disappeared 
messages.  Smile.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I click 
on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but Jaws 
doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be safely 
removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what 
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

[Adrian Spratt]

Al, I'm confident there isn't such a keystroke, which would be very useful. 
With Outlook, including 2010, you're not even told what number email you're at 
as you go down the list, a feature Outlook Express had, or has. That's my only 
regret about giving up OE.

However, your mention of a word search makes me wonder which type of search 
you're doing. If you just type a word into the initial search field, you're 
searching only subject lines. The way I search for all words, whether in the 
subject line or the message field, is the following: 

Control-shift-f to commence the search.
Tab once
Down arrow once
Shift-tab once.
Now type your search term, then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Al 
Sorrentino
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

Hi everyone,

 

I am using Outlook 2010

Windows 7 and JAWS 13

 

In my Outlook inbox I have about 650 e-mails that have already been read.
Sometimes I need to go back to a certain e-mail for references and it takes too 
long to find it in my list.  Is there a certain keystroke that I can use to 
find out what number that e-mail is in my list?  The reason why I am asking is 
because sometimes I would like to go to that particular e-mail and I do not 
want to go down that entire list to find out the one that I am looking for.  
Sometimes when I do a search for a particular word in the e-mail that I am 
looking for, it does not appear, but I do know that it is on my list.

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Al Sorrentino

 

alsorrent...@verizon.net

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[Adrian Spratt]

Mike, just a thought. Before going to the system tray, do you close the window 
displaying that drive's contents? Then does the confirmation show up in the 
system tray?

A related point: My tech consultant says that removing an item, such as an SD 
card, can be done safely so long as the window is closed. He'd say, then, that 
even if you aren't getting that reassuring confirmation, you'll be okay. Even 
so, I admit I take the extra precaution of getting system tray confirmation. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I click 
on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but Jaws 
doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be safely 
removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what 
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

I may have figured out the solution, but since my status bar is fine, I can't 
confirm. While focused on a message list, press F6. This first press should 
land you on the status bar. I notice that it's a checkbox. Mine is checked. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016

Agreed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Gary Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016

client is outlook 2016.

as for insert-tab, not quite a real substitute as it doesn't read the actual 
status line giving total messages / unread and dconnection information.


- Original Message -
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016


> Hi Gary,
> Share with us which e-mail client you are using.
>
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Lee" <kb9...@arrl.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:48 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
> outlook
> 2016
>
>
> just upgraded to latest jaws 2018.
>
> now insert-pgdn which used to read status line at bottom of inbox 
> screen now reads the "search inbox" line at the top of the screen.
> Like it is in another window, and can't be moved.
> tried unrestricting the jaws cursor, then doing a jaws to pc, no joy.
>
> any ideas would be helpful.
>
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Agreed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Gary Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016

client is outlook 2016.

as for insert-tab, not quite a real substitute as it doesn't read the actual 
status line giving total messages / unread and dconnection information.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
outlook 2016


> Hi Gary,
> Share with us which e-mail client you are using.
>
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Lee" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:48 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and 
> outlook
> 2016
>
>
> just upgraded to latest jaws 2018.
>
> now insert-pgdn which used to read status line at bottom of inbox screen 
> now
> reads the "search inbox" line at the top of the screen.
> Like it is in another window, and can't be moved.
> tried unrestricting the jaws cursor, then doing a jaws to pc, no joy.
>
> any ideas would be helpful.
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

I also have Outlook 2016 and just installed the latest release of JAWS 18, and 
I don't have this problem. Until you find a fix, an alternative is JAWS 
key+tab. 

For the record, I continue to have problems reading any messages formatted as 
tables.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Gary Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 
2016

just upgraded to latest jaws 2018.

now insert-pgdn which used to read status line at bottom of inbox screen now 
reads the "search inbox" line at the top of the screen.
Like it is in another window, and can't be moved.
tried unrestricting the jaws cursor, then doing a jaws to pc, no joy.

any ideas would be helpful.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking braille display model

[Adrian Spratt]

I'd gladly try to get an answer for you. If you'd like me to, email me at 
adr...@adrianspratt.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking braille display model

I am not in US so I can’t connect directly freedom scientific. I bought the 
display even it is an  old model.

Negoslav Sabev

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2018, at 00:13, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
> 
> No one responded on-list. Could you contact the manufacturer?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
> Negoslav Sabev
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: jaws-users <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking braille display model
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A friend is wanting to sale me his Focus 40 braill display but he doesn”t 
> remember its model. I have the serial number but I don’t know how to check 
> the model to be able to negotiate the price. Is there a way to check the 
> display model by the serial number?
> 
> Negoslav Sabev
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

[Adrian Spratt]

Then I wonder if a JAWS repair is in order.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

Hi,
I did that but Jaws 18 still start first and also starts when I press the 
hotkey even though I do not have a hotkey for Jaws 18.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

Don't tinker with the JAWS 18 settings. Just set 2018 to start. That setting 
will override the setting in all other versions.

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:31 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2 <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

Hi All,

Also I have notice that when I start my pc and jaws come on automatically it 
starts Jaws 18 instead of Jaws 2018. I have gone into both Jaws 18 and made 
sure it is stet to not start on startup and have check to make sure Jaws
22018 is set to start up on start up.  Both my W10 computers are doing the same 
thing. Any ideas what is going on?

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

[Adrian Spratt]

Don't tinker with the JAWS 18 settings. Just set 2018 to start. That setting 
will override the setting in all other versions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:31 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another issue on which Jaws is starting

Hi All,

Also I have notice that when I start my pc and jaws come on automatically it 
starts Jaws 18 instead of Jaws 2018. I have gone into both Jaws 18 and made 
sure it is stet to not start on startup and have check to make sure Jaws
22018 is set to start up on start up.  Both my W10 computers are doing the same 
thing. Any ideas what is going on?

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

[Adrian Spratt]

Josh,

I think I was mistaken about the quick settings menu item. There, spelling 
options only enable you to select how spelling is reported, not whether to 
report it at all. 

Instead, the answer is in the Chrome menu. I don't really understand how it 
works, but I can get you to the option:

Alt-f for file menu, then s for settings
Tab like a madman until you land on "Advanced."
Resume tabbing like a madman until you arrive at spelling options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

Yes I know about how to navigate quick settings. I haven’t used jaws in about 
10 years though, that was back when the state agency bought it for me. But 
thanks to a nice combination of things, I am now able to buy it myself without 
the help of a state agency. Which is very nice! 


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 08:45
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

While focus is in a browser, open JAWS quick settings with JAWS key+v. An edit 
field will appear. Type the word "spell" (without quotations. Wait a moment, 
then arrow down to the results. Are you familiar with how to navigate quick 
settings?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

Hi
When reviewing text in edit boxes and browsers. Jaws keeps saying misspelled 
for words that I know are not misspelled. How do I turn this off?

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

[Adrian Spratt]

Cher, here's how to do it in Firefox:

1. Press alt-t for tools, then o for options.
2. Tab many times to the "Language" section.
3. Keep tabbing until you get the option to  select "Check my spelling as I 
type." 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

In Firefox, this is a common problem for me. However I don't see any option for 
turning this off under quick settings.

Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

While focus is in a browser, open JAWS quick settings with JAWS key+v. An edit 
field will appear. Type the word "spell" (without quotations. Wait a moment, 
then arrow down to the results. Are you familiar with how to navigate quick 
settings?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

Hi
When reviewing text in edit boxes and browsers. Jaws keeps saying misspelled 
for words that I know are not misspelled. How do I turn this off?

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

[Adrian Spratt]

By using Chrome. I was just adding a detail to Net Bat's post in case it helped 
you find the button.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

I forgot I am using I.E. How did you get to the 2nd page?

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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

Once on that second page, tab a few times to reach the play button.
I discovered something similar this morning while working with Chrome. On 
another website, which requires being logged in, I pressed spacebar on a play 
button and nothing happened. For some reason, I pressed tab, and another  play 
button appeared. This time pressing the spacebar commenced the video.
With IE11 on this same website, a single press of the spacebar on "play" 
commences the video. So, with chrome there seem to be new ways of getting at 
certain buttons.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of net 
bat66
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

useing firefox you have to click 2 links.
the first one takes you to another page where you then have to click the play 
button to start the video.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:58 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

I am using latest jaws 2018 and win 7. I want to watch this video of a
product for woodworking. It is for Zero Clearance Tape for a miter saw. I
can not activate the link. I must have an incorrect jaws key combination at
least I hope that is the problem. I want to watch the demo before I purchase
the product. Hopefully it is also audable described.
Thanks for any help. Here is the link:

https://www.ptreeusa.com/mitersaw_zero_clearance_tape.html
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Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

[Adrian Spratt]

Once on that second page, tab a few times to reach the play button.
I discovered something similar this morning while working with Chrome. On 
another website, which requires being logged in, I pressed spacebar on a play 
button and nothing happened. For some reason, I pressed tab, and another  play 
button appeared. This time pressing the spacebar commenced the video. 
With IE11 on this same website, a single press of the spacebar on "play" 
commences the video. So, with chrome there seem to be new ways of getting at 
certain buttons.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of net 
bat66
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

useing firefox you have to click 2 links.
the first one takes you to another page where you then have to click the play 
button to start the video.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:58 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] watch video clickable

I am using latest jaws 2018 and win 7. I want to watch this video of a
product for woodworking. It is for Zero Clearance Tape for a miter saw. I
can not activate the link. I must have an incorrect jaws key combination at
least I hope that is the problem. I want to watch the demo before I purchase
the product. Hopefully it is also audable described.
Thanks for any help. Here is the link:

https://www.ptreeusa.com/mitersaw_zero_clearance_tape.html
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

[Adrian Spratt]

While focus is in a browser, open JAWS quick settings with JAWS key+v. An edit 
field will appear. Type the word "spell" (without quotations. Wait a moment, 
then arrow down to the results. Are you familiar with how to navigate quick 
settings?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

Hi
When reviewing text in edit boxes and browsers. Jaws keeps saying misspelled 
for words that I know are not misspelled. How do I turn this off?

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Adrian Spratt]

Steve, a great tip. I hope I remember it when I next encounter something like 
this. Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Steve
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Ok, I didn't try the first site, but the AmyMyersMd.com site, I did.

Initially, I could not get it to add items to the cart with either IE11 on 
Google Chrome version 66 on my PC.

But, I did discover a workaround with Chrome (I didn't try it with IE11):

When you search for an item and bring up the descripption, there is a combobox 
to select the quantity.
I think the default is one, just make sure it is some whole number and not zero.

Now, the workaround:
I used the Jaws OCR feature to read the Window.  As I read down through the 
text (I have it set to the default where the things it recognizes are at a 
slightly lower pitch); when I got to the AddToCart button, I left-clicked it 
with the slash key on the numpad.

It added the item to the cart and gave me a checkout button.

HTH,
Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: "Judy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


> Steve, they were two sites one called Seeking Health.com and the other
> amymyersmd.com. I am trying to buy supplements from them. I tried IE,
> Firefox and Chrome and none worked. It is possible to call these places 
> and
> order over the phone which is what I'll have to do tomorrow, but it is 
> just
> wrong that I can't do it online. I have an older Jaws, but from what 
> people
> have written, that's not the problem. I do have NVDA downloaded and 
> honestly
> didn't think to try it. But for me it is just too aggrevating to have to 
> go
> through all these various browsers, screen readers, etc to accomplish a
> simple task of putting something in a cart. Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
>
> Which site were you trying to purchase from, and which browser versions 
> did
> you try?
>
> I know Google Chrome worked for me on some sites whee IE didn't, but I
> couldn't get Google Chrome to work with versions of Jaws earlier than 17.
>
> Second question, as an assistive tech trainer, I often advise my clients 
> to
> have at least a demo of other screen-readers in their back pockets, as 
> there
>
> are instances when one will not work while another will.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, MI
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:30 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
>
>
>> Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites
>> to
>> purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my
>> cart.
>> I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
>> anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of
>> them
>> worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
>> work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

You've solved the problem for your needs, Rebecca, but I note that the "classic 
attributes and font" speech and sounds scheme picks up superscript.

Your posts on this subject have been very helpful, as usual.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

I suppose it's one of those things where some like one option rather than 
another.  The Windows-alt-I alerts me at each instance of super- and subscript. 
 But it's almost as easy to change schemes:
Insert-alt-s
And press p for proofreading attributes and font info.
Then I can arrow through the document, up, down, left, right, or use say all, 
and the different scrips will be demonstrated by a change in pitch.
If I only had one instance of a change, I would go for the Windows-alt-I, but 
if I wanted to read and review a document, it's good the other option is there. 
If I remember correctly from playing with it yesterday, there are other schemes 
that alert for superscript, but p for proofreading is easy to remember.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi, Fernando. Your instructions are absolutely correct. The only difference is 
that the English version gives "1st" as the ordinal example. I had it checked 
already, and it seems to be working for me. 

My confusion arose because I couldn't get JAWS to confirm that superscript 
letters were, in fact, superscript. As Rebecca posted, the problem arises from 
VFO's decision to remove superscript and subscript from the classic speech and 
sounds scheme. Strangely, although I've restored them to my default speech and 
sounds scheme, JAWS is still not verbalizing either format when I move 
character by character. I have to press JAWS key-f, which works for me but not 
for Rebecca. Her solution is Windows key-alt-I, which at least takes you up to 
the point where the format changes. So does Text Analyzer, but on my system, TA 
just verbalizes a change in format without specifying what that format is. 

Astounding that JAWS users have to put so much thought and work into a detail 
like this. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi Adrian,

You were told nice alternatives to make JAWS report superscript and subscript, 
so it makes no sense I repeat many things others already said.
Regarding Word automatically not changing ordinals, this is controlled by the 
AutoFormat As You Type auto-correct options. These options are per-program 
basis, so it is normal it is enabled in Outlook and disabled in Word.
To enable this in Word, go to the File tab, Word Options.
In the Categories list box, choose Proofing and tab to the Auto-Correct Options.
In the dialog opened by this button, press CTRL+TAB until you reach the 
AutoFormat As You Type page. Then tab to a checkbox like Ordinals (1th) with 
Superscript and press SPACE BAR to check this. I can't give you the exact name 
of this checkbox, since many options of this tab have language-specific names. 
In the case of ordinals, in Spanish there are both two specific symbols and, in 
practice, many people incorrectly use suffixes like “do”, “ra”, etc.

Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Now Word 2016 has a whole section dedicated to math symbols. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

I had a similar problem when in college, with algebra. JAWS would not speak 
superscript to save my life, so when doing my notes, I used a carot symbol 
between the root number, and the superscript. After that, I could do the 
equation, and superscript the specific number. Sometimes you have to get a 
little creative; even when using JAWS.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi, Fernando. Your instructions are absolutely correct. The only difference is 
that the English version gives "1st" as the ordinal example. I had it checked 
already, and it seems to be working for me.

My confusion arose because I couldn't get JAWS to confirm that superscript 
letters were, in fact, superscript. As Rebecca posted, the problem arises from 
VFO's decision to remove superscript and subscript from the classic speech and 
sounds scheme. Strangely, although I've restored them to my default speech and 
sounds scheme, JAWS is still not verbalizing either format when I move 
character by character. I have to press JAWS key-f, which works for me but not 
for Rebecca. Her solution is Windows key-alt-I, which at least takes you up to 
the point where the format changes. So does Text Analyzer, but on my system, TA 
just verbalizes a change in format without specifying what that format is.

Astounding that JAWS users have to put so much thought and work into a detail 
like this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi Adrian,

You were told nice alternatives to make JAWS report superscript and subscript, 
so it makes no sense I repeat many things others already said.
Regarding Word automatically not changing ordinals, this is controlled by the 
AutoFormat As You Type auto-correct options. These options are per-program 
basis, so it is normal it is enabled in Outlook and disabled in Word.
To enable this in Word, go to the File tab, Word Options.
In the Categories list box, choose Proofing and tab to the Auto-Correct Options.
In the dialog opened by this button, press CTRL+TAB until you reach the 
AutoFormat As You Type page. Then tab to a checkbox like Ordinals (1th) with 
Superscript and press SPACE BAR to check this. I can't give you the exact name 
of this checkbox, since many options of this tab have language-specific names. 
In the case of ordinals, in Spanish there are both two specific symbols and, in 
practice, many people incorrectly use suffixes like “do”, “ra”, etc.

Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Fernando. Your instructions are absolutely correct. The only difference is 
that the English version gives "1st" as the ordinal example. I had it checked 
already, and it seems to be working for me. 

My confusion arose because I couldn't get JAWS to confirm that superscript 
letters were, in fact, superscript. As Rebecca posted, the problem arises from 
VFO's decision to remove superscript and subscript from the classic speech and 
sounds scheme. Strangely, although I've restored them to my default speech and 
sounds scheme, JAWS is still not verbalizing either format when I move 
character by character. I have to press JAWS key-f, which works for me but not 
for Rebecca. Her solution is Windows key-alt-I, which at least takes you up to 
the point where the format changes. So does Text Analyzer, but on my system, TA 
just verbalizes a change in format without specifying what that format is. 

Astounding that JAWS users have to put so much thought and work into a detail 
like this. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi Adrian,

You were told nice alternatives to make JAWS report superscript and subscript, 
so it makes no sense I repeat many things others already said.
Regarding Word automatically not changing ordinals, this is controlled by the 
AutoFormat As You Type auto-correct options. These options are per-program 
basis, so it is normal it is enabled in Outlook and disabled in Word.
To enable this in Word, go to the File tab, Word Options.
In the Categories list box, choose Proofing and tab to the Auto-Correct Options.
In the dialog opened by this button, press CTRL+TAB until you reach the 
AutoFormat As You Type page. Then tab to a checkbox like Ordinals (1th) with 
Superscript and press SPACE BAR to check this. I can't give you the exact name 
of this checkbox, since many options of this tab have language-specific names. 
In the case of ordinals, in Spanish there are both two specific symbols and, in 
practice, many people incorrectly use suffixes like “do”, “ra”, etc.

Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Well done, Rebecca. The nice thing about this command, which is new to me, is 
that it moves from superscript to superscript, so you don't have to figure out 
the next instance on your own.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian,
The windows-alt-I command does tell you.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Text Analyzer tells you there is a change in font, not what that change is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Can't you use text analyzer ot see if you have a superscript?
 Justin 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

The JAWS key-f does not give superscript information for me.
If I want to proofread a document, I just switch to a proofreading sound scheme 
to verify that all is as it should be, then switch back to Word Classic.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for 
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and 
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the modified 
version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed.
I still need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each 
character I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for automatically 
putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in 
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched off, 
except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to 
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook 
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook 2007,Word 
Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript refer to 
numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than the text on 
the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O), and an exponent 
is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again, or 
repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example is 
written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript and 
subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018 does 
not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Text Analyzer tells you there is a change in font, not what that change is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Can't you use text analyzer ot see if you have a superscript?
 Justin 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

The JAWS key-f does not give superscript information for me.
If I want to proofread a document, I just switch to a proofreading sound scheme 
to verify that all is as it should be, then switch back to Word Classic.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for 
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and 
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the modified 
version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed.
I still need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each 
character I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for automatically 
putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in 
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched off, 
except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to 
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook 
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook 2007,Word 
Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript refer to 
numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than the text on 
the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O), and an exponent 
is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again, or 
repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example is 
written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript and 
subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018 does 
not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be enabled that I 
don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted 
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Wayne, but these keystrokes no longer work in Word 2016.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
wayne smith
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

For what it is worth; I press alt-h followed by 6 on the number row to create 
superscript on the selected characters and 5 on the number row to create 
subscript on selected text.

Using MS Word 2007 it does not tell me that the change is ther unless I use 
Insert F

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Adrian Spratt]

Judy, actually you do need the current release of JAWS to work with the current 
version of Firefox, and I'm pretty sure Chrome works much better with the 
current release of JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Steve, they were two sites one called Seeking Health.com and the other 
amymyersmd.com. I am trying to buy supplements from them. I tried IE, Firefox 
and Chrome and none worked. It is possible to call these places and order over 
the phone which is what I'll have to do tomorrow, but it is just wrong that I 
can't do it online. I have an older Jaws, but from what people have written, 
that's not the problem. I do have NVDA downloaded and honestly didn't think to 
try it. But for me it is just too aggrevating to have to go through all these 
various browsers, screen readers, etc to accomplish a simple task of putting 
something in a cart. Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Which site were you trying to purchase from, and which browser versions did you 
try?

I know Google Chrome worked for me on some sites whee IE didn't, but I couldn't 
get Google Chrome to work with versions of Jaws earlier than 17.

Second question, as an assistive tech trainer, I often advise my clients to 
have at least a demo of other screen-readers in their back pockets, as there

are instances when one will not work while another will.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message -
From: "Judy" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


> Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites 
> to
> purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my 
> cart.
> I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
> anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of 
> them
> worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
> work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Adrian Spratt]

Dave and list,

Dave has listed the methods I would try when frustrated by a "confirm" or 
"purchase" button. In IE11, I find that if I can't locate the button with the 
JAWS cursor, chances are nothing is going to work. 
However, websites that don't work with IE11 are increasingly working for me 
with Chrome. 
Dean Martineau's newsletter this past week links to a lecture on browser 
accessibility. Referring to HTML5 content, the speaker said that IE11 picks up 
only 50% of controls. Chrome and Firefox were somewhere in-between, and Edge is 
at 100%. These percentages don't reflect my browser experience. For example, 
she gave a higher percentage to Firefox than Chrome, but my experience with 
Firefox 60 is so bad that I've given up on it. I imagine the reason for the 
difference between the speaker's numbers and my experience is that HTML5 is 
only one coding system that websites use. All the same, the percentages suggest 
that IE11 is falling further and further behind. 
I hate to promote Chrome because its file menu system is so cumbersome and 
often not intuitive. But in terms of speed and greater access to Web content, 
it seems to be the best at this moment, May 20, 2018.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I have no problem using Amazon. And to find a button, you use Insert+F5, not F7.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:30
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but
could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not
work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected a
DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But
regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that.

But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting
something on the screen. Here is that solution:

To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3
then space bar.  This will tick it.

Give that  a try and let us know.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



On Hollar.com, there are no variables.  There are no elements other than the
quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping
cart button.  You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more
than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart.  But no keystroke
will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart
Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo
box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will
activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a
number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or
a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated.
There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on
the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to
JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work.
Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link
and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Judy
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for 
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and 
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the modified 
version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed. I still 
need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each character 
I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for automatically 
putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in 
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched off, 
except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to 
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook 
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook 2007,Word 
Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript refer to 
numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than the text on 
the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O), and an exponent 
is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again, or 
repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example is 
written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript and 
subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018 does 
not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be enabled that I 
don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted 
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS repair

[Adrian Spratt]

I figured out the answer. Because I have a hard time computing numbers when 
spoken by JAWS, I'd changed the filename to include the month and year. I 
didn't change the file extension, but I'd been led to believe that changing a 
filename while keeping the extension intact made no difference. Well, it does. 
I re-downloaded the file from the VFO website and went through the same 
VFO-recommended procedure without a hitch.

Thanks to Steve and Dan for your thoughts. I'll try Dan's method the next time. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS repair

Hi. Last year VFO gave me a new set of instructions for doing a JAWS repair. 
They worked well, and I posted a version to the list. today they aren't 
working. When I put the terms into the run dialog and press enter, I get the MS 
message that Windows doesn't know which program to use. Can anyone suggest what 
I'm doing wrong? Here are the instructions:


First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build 
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.

Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.

Close all running apps.

Highlight the JAWS .exe file.

Press shift-F10.

Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.

Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.

Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the word 
"type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."

Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v followed 
by the spacebar, continue with /type repair

Then press enter.



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[JAWS-Users] JAWS repair

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi. Last year VFO gave me a new set of instructions for doing a JAWS repair. 
They worked well, and I posted a version to the list. today they aren't 
working. When I put the terms into the run dialog and press enter, I get the MS 
message that Windows doesn't know which program to use. Can anyone suggest what 
I'm doing wrong? Here are the instructions:


First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build 
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.

Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.

Close all running apps.

Highlight the JAWS .exe file.

Press shift-F10.

Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.

Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.

Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the word 
"type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."

Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v followed 
by the spacebar, continue with /type repair

Then press enter.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] message rules in Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

While focused on a related message but not inside it, press the applications 
key and arrow up until you hear "Rule."  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:48 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] message rules in Outlook 2016

Using the latest version of JAWS 2018 Outlook 2016 on a Windows 7 computer, 
where do I find message rules?  I created a rule, but now need to modify or 
eliminate it and start over.  However, I can't find where in the riboons to 
access my pre-existing rule.  Any help will be greatly appreciated?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Mike.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

Hi Adrian,

Here's where the default browser option is located to activate.
1. Open Chrome, press, Alt + F, to open the list of menues, then press the 
letter, S, to open, Settings, or navigate down to, Settings, and press enter.
2. With Settings open, navigate by heading using the letter, H, to the, Default 
Browser heading.  I believe it's 4 presses of the letter, H.
3. Downarrow to, Make default button, and press the spacebar.
You're done.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser


Thanks, Andy. I finally remembered an alternative, which is to go into 
Windows search, type defaults, then tab through until I get a programs list, 
from which I can set my default. But your approach would be more elegant the 
next time this comes up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

After launching Chrome, I believe the command is ALT-SHIFT-A.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser


> I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome
> might work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default"
> option in the menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact
> instructions? Thanks.
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Adrian Spratt]

I have windows 7, but you gave me the clue I needed. Note, to avoid confusing 
anyone following this thread, that I wanted to make Chrome my default.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

If you're in Windows 10, Windows key plus I, go to Apps and the default Apps. 
Press enter or spacebar on that to select it then tab down the the web browser 
option and pick Firefox.
If not Windows 10, then I don't remember anymore.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome might 
work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default"
option in the menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact instructions? 
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Andy. I finally remembered an alternative, which is to go into Windows 
search, type defaults, then tab through until I get a programs list, from which 
I can set my default. But your approach would be more elegant the next time 
this comes up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

After launching Chrome, I believe the command is ALT-SHIFT-A.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser


> I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome 
> might work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default" 
> option in the menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact 
> instructions? Thanks.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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[JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome might 
work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default" option in the 
menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact instructions? Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Adrian Spratt]

I'd be curious which of these extensions helped you. A number claim to help 
Internet navigation, but I don't find an explanation of how they work. Most are 
directed at Web developers, while the user ones are dominated by extensions for 
partially sighted people. 
For anyone interested in the Chrome Store, I got there by opening the menu with 
alt, then typing "accessibility" into the resulting edit field. Arrow down to 
the chrome Store when the next page comes up. As I recall, it isn't labeled as 
a button or link, but clicking on the title opens the store. 
This is one of many reservations I have about Chrome: that many controls are 
not labeled as such.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 11:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

In chrome there is a button called chrome store, launch it and  type 
accessibility and all kinds of wonderful accessibility extensions are offered 
to you.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

With chrome, where can I find the extentions?  I'd like to try chrome with JAWS.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Search for captia on the chrome store and you will find it.its escaping me at 
the moment.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm chiming in late here, but how do Chrome users solve captchas? I've heard of 
Captcha Be Gone.

-Original Message-
From: gary-melconian
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with 
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As 
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox its 
like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its like 
going through sites with a fast sports car.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm constantly 
switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because different 
combinations work best with different websites, and even then some websites 
remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a certain website 
owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only for me to install 
Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder some website designers 
get frustrated with accessibility obligations.

Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to function 
differently.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how long 
pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation keys arrows 
and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 52, but not 
totally. I was under the impression it would run better than chrome but that 
hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing experience 
this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can easily get messed 
up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that problem myself luckily, 
but I have multiple friends that are, each of them on multiple computers t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

[Adrian Spratt]

After all that, I realize I answered a question different from the one you're 
asking. No doubt there's an answer to the question you did ask.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:31 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

Hi, Mike.

I also have Windows 7. This should work. 

Press the Windows key and arrow up once to "all Programs."
Press enter, then when a list appears press the up arrow key once.
Then press f until Firefox appears.
On hearing Firefox verbalized, press the applications key. 
Arrow up to "send to submenu," press enter again. 
Then press the down arrow key until you hear "Desktop" and press enter yet 
again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:15 PM
To: Jaws-Users List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Firefox ESR 52.8, & J16 thru J2018.  When you want to create 
a desktop shortcut from a website you visit regularly, how in the heck do you 
do it?!  In IE11 you can get create desktop shortcut options in the context 
menu, or from the file menu, but with Firefox I can't find anywhere in the 
context or file menu that will allow me to create a desktop shortcut while on 
the website.  So again, how is this done?  All help will be a great hair saver, 
and immensely appreciated!  LOL  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi, Mike.

I also have Windows 7. This should work. 

Press the Windows key and arrow up once to "all Programs."
Press enter, then when a list appears press the up arrow key once.
Then press f until Firefox appears.
On hearing Firefox verbalized, press the applications key. 
Arrow up to "send to submenu," press enter again. 
Then press the down arrow key until you hear "Desktop" and press enter yet 
again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:15 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Desktop Shortcuts With Firefox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Firefox ESR 52.8, & J16 thru J2018.  When you want to create 
a desktop shortcut from a website you visit regularly, how in the heck do you 
do it?!  In IE11 you can get create desktop shortcut options in the context 
menu, or from the file menu, but with Firefox I can't find anywhere in the 
context or file menu that will allow me to create a desktop shortcut while on 
the website.  So again, how is this done?  All help will be a great hair saver, 
and immensely appreciated!  LOL  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

[Adrian Spratt]

I wonder if there's a semantics issue here. To uninstall is to completely 
remove the program from the computer. to unload is to temporarily disable a 
program until you're ready to bring it back. So yes, you do need to unload JAWS 
18 before loading JAWS 17.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

David:
So, if I understand you correctly, I have to uninstall my 2018, correct? 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

hello;
you said;
I have 17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control 
panel.
if this is the case, most likely you already have the jaws17 installed.
what you need to do is to create a shortcut to start the version 17.
give this a try;

1, unload the current version of jaws your running.
2, type: windows-key+r=run,
3, type: jaws17 press enter.
this should load jaws 17.
if this is true, now you can create shortcut for this version, example, 
alt+ctrl+7.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple JAWS versions

Afternoon all.

I need to take an assessment test for a possible job interview. The end result 
of the software states that I need to use JAWS 17, not 2018. I have
17 in my downloads folder, as well as in the programs page of control panel.
I need to find out how I would go about re-installing version 17 on my Dell 
laptop, with Windows 10, while using version 2018 for the process, if it is 
possible. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Adrian Spratt]

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm constantly 
switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because different 
combinations work best with different websites, and even then some websites 
remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a certain website 
owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only for me to install 
Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder some website designers 
get frustrated with accessibility obligations. 

Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to function 
differently. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how long 
pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation keys arrows 
and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 52, but not 
totally. I was under the impression it would run better than chrome but that 
hasn't been so for me.


Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing experience 
this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can easily get messed 
up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that problem myself luckily, 
but I have multiple friends that are, each of them on multiple computers too.


In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like 
that, guess I wanted to rant a little.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
"We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 5/11/2018 4:17 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
> losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as
> if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per
> say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech
> silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've
> been having with Jaws just randomly losing focus on any site and me having
> to maximize the window or tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the
> time made the user experience a frustrating one.
> The response I got back was:
> Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60
> with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the
> issues you mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site
> is still loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2,
> you can navigate just fine.  I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a
> very resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with
> performance.  Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that
> might be specific to your machine.
>
> So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single
> webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to have
> to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd speech pauses
> and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime soon as I work
> during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the meantime.
> Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config tweek
> a while back. I'll have to dig around for it again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60
>
> I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the
> email I just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message
> that I recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60.
>
>
>1.  When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save
> the log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I
> caught that to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up
> and eventually gave 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS repair error message

[Adrian Spratt]

Sadam,

Two or three years ago, I ran into a similar problem trying to perform a JAWS 
repair. The error message was about some other part of the process, but it had 
the same effect. FS/VFO was also unable to fix it. Yet it went away in time. 

Not much help, I know, but I mention it for what it's worth.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS repair error message


Adrian,

I have  tried running  the repair quite a number of times with the same result.

Even tech support can't work it out.

Very strange.

Sadam Ahmed

On 12/05/2018 2:02 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> Sometimes running a repair a second and even a third time overcomes problems 
> like this. VFO tech support people will tell you so. But if that fails, it's 
> probably best to get in touch with them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On 
> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS rpair error message
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I get the following error when I attempt to repair my copy of JAWS .
>
>
> THE JAWS REPAIR HAS FAILED
> the set-up  failed to process   the 'fsWow64Proxy" component.
> Restart your computer and run the set-up again.
> If the error continues, contact technical support.
>
> code: 80070666
>
>
> I have tried to remove JAWS but get the same error.
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> JAWS certified, 2018
>  
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS repair error message

[Adrian Spratt]

Sometimes running a repair a second and even a third time overcomes problems 
like this. VFO tech support people will tell you so. But if that fails, it's 
probably best to get in touch with them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS rpair error message

Hi all,


I get the following error when I attempt to repair my copy of JAWS .


THE JAWS REPAIR HAS FAILED
the set-up  failed to process   the 'fsWow64Proxy" component.
Restart your computer and run the set-up again.
If the error continues, contact technical support.

code: 80070666


I have tried to remove JAWS but get the same error.


Any help would be appreciated.


Yours sincerely,

Sadam Ahmed

JAWS certified, 2018

FaceTime, iMessage & email

sa...@sadamahmed.com


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks for answering my question and your update.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I still had a 52.X ESR installer on my system. SO I just uninstalled V60, ran 
the 52.X installer and updated to the most current one capable with the older 
version and am now am on Firefox Version 52.8.0. The same one I was on before 
trying the Quantum or whatever it's called.
The other issue I was having with Firefox 60 and Jaws on The Old Reader: 
This is what I sent VFO:
I am noticing with the latest Firefox 60 (ESR and standard version) when 
browsing down my list of RSS posts. Be it in a particular feed's entries, a 
folder created by me or even in the all posts view, when I click enter or press 
the spacebar to expand that particular entry to show the summary (this is in 
list view. Not full view) and then later wish to do the same for another RSS 
entry, Jaws doesn't appear to be able to accomplish this second task.
I've tried using the Jaws cursor, maximizing the window and then pressing enter 
or spacebar, tabbing to be sure Jaws focus isn't somewhere else, but nothing 
seems to work. It's basically pick one RSS entry and that's it. The only thing 
I can do to be able to select another RSS entry to view is do an entire page 
refresh. Which isn't a solution as once the refresh occurs, all previously 
unread posts are marked as read.
In my case, The Older Reader is marked as my home page and I refer to it all 
the time. So this one bug is proving to be quite disruptive. I don't know if it 
has something to do with a virtual buffer focus or some other element, but I am 
not able to figure it out on my end. To be clear, this particular behavior is 
not present in prior versions of Firefox. I have been using the V 52.x ESR 
version before upgrading to v60 without this issue present.
So anyway, in the same email response I pasted below, I got this note from the 
same tech:
Also, I did see your other e-mail in which you mentioned a specific Web site.  
I did look at that Web site, but I found that it requires signing up for an 
account to see the issues.  If you could provide us with a site with these 
issues that does not require signing up for an account, that would be very 
helpful.

Ok... but as I specifically mentioned this website, it kind of defeats the 
purpose...
Again, probably one of those things I'd have to call in to better demonstrate 
the exact problem, but I'm busy throughout the day and always on the phone, 
doubt I'd be able to do it any time soon.
This is why I figured in part to just go back to V 52 and maybe wait for 
another Jaws or Firefox release with hopefully some more improvements. I've 
waited a few months, what's a couple of more weeks...
As long as you don't mess with your profile on your system, then uninstalling 
and reinstalling any version of Firefox shouldn't be a big deal. That said, 
standard caveats of backing up and all that apply. Also, I do have a Firefox 
account for easier browser syncing between multiple PCs and my iPhone so 
there's that too.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm 
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings 
intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to 
contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on making 
crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of
2018 when you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is required 
for compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws losing 
speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as if it was 
catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per say as when 
it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech silencing thing was 
getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've been having with Jaws 
just randomly losing focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or 
tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a 
frustrating one. 
The response I got back was: 
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60 with 
the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the issues you 
mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web s

Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Word Problem With Jaws

[Adrian Spratt]

One thought. Press control-alt-p to ensure the document is in print view.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:19 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange Word Problem With Jaws

Hi All,

Asking for a friend:
From: Marie
I have a rather strange problem with Word 2016 but I had the same problem with 
2010.  I'm running Win 10 1803 with J2018 latest, but get the same result using 
NVDA as well.  When I am in a document and am arrowing down it will skip pages. 
It will go from page one to page three, then page five, etc. It does not do 
this when doing a say all or if I am arrowing right or reading word by word 
with the insert + right arrow. This only happens on my desktop and not the 
laptop so I am pretty sure it is some odd setting that I have accidently made. 
But I have gone over and over the options and can not figure out what setting 
is causing this.
Before installing 2016, I uninstalled 2010 thinking the problem would not 
persist but I was wrong. Does anyone have an idea what setting is causing this 
& how I can fix it?  Thank you all very much.
Marie

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Adrian Spratt]

How did you revert to 52ESR? By uninstalling 60 and reinstalling 52ESR? I'm 
hoping it was something else. I'd love to get 52ESR back with my settings 
intact. meanwhile, I urge everyone else having problems with Firefox 60 to 
contact VFO because otherwise they'll stall, the way they still stall on making 
crucial 2018 fixes. But be sure you're using the current release of 2018 when 
you report Firefox 60 problems. Apparently, this release is required for 
compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws losing 
speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage. Almost as if it was 
catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow or sluggish per say as when 
it was moving around, it felt responsive, but the speech silencing thing was 
getting annoying. That along with an existing issue I've been having with Jaws 
just randomly losing focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or 
tab or shift plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a 
frustrating one. 
The response I got back was: 
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried Firefox 60 with 
the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not really found the issues you 
mention.  At times, I have found that sometimes, when a Web site is still 
loading, it might get sluggish, but if you give it a minute or 2, you can 
navigate just fine.  I just spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a very 
resource-intensive Web site and was actually very impressed with performance.  
Therefore, I am not sure this is a general issue but one that might be specific 
to your machine.

So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single webpage 
to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to have to call tech 
support so I can demonstrate for them these odd speech pauses and whatnot. 
Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime soon as I work during the day, but 
anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the meantime.
Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config tweek a 
while back. I'll have to dig around for it again. 

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the email I 
just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message that I 
recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60.


  1.  When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save the 
log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I caught that 
to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up and eventually 
gave me the options to wait or close. After what was already a long wait, I 
closed it.

I've encountered this message several times since. Pressing alt-d led to the 
same result, as did my try with alt-n (which often brings up other options).
The only way to get past this message is to wait for it to go away.


  1.  On the donations page of the website www.wnyc.org<http://www.wnyc.org>, 
the combo boxes for state and country don't give any information, e.g., state 
abbreviations. These combo boxes do work with IE11. A similar problem came up 
on another website with Firefox 60, but I can't be sure I've diagnosed the 
problem yet.


  1.  Placemarkers are behaving erratically. None carried over from Firefox 
52ESR, so I've had to start over again putting them in place. One repeating 
problem is that even though I uncheck the box that would apply the placemarker 
throughout a website, the placemarkers all apply on every page.
This means I've accumulated twelve placemarkers on every page of one website I 
regularly visit, even though I want at most three per page.


  1.  I'm also finding that some placemarkers just don't work when I press the 
k key. Even though the placemarker list shows one for that location, k doesn't 
locate it.

I'm working with JAWS 2018.1804.26.400,, and my OS is Windows 7.

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[JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm experiencing several problems with Firefox 60. Here's a copy of the email I 
just sent VFO explaining what they are. I did mention in the message that I 
recently upgraded from Firefox 52ESR to 60.


  1.  When I try to log in to a website, Firefox's message offering to save the 
log-in information is spoken, and then spoken several more times. I caught that 
to decline, I should press alt-d. when I did so, Firefox hung up and eventually 
gave me the options to wait or close. After what was already a long wait, I 
closed it.

I've encountered this message several times since. Pressing alt-d led to the 
same result, as did my try with alt-n (which often brings up other options). 
The only way to get past this message is to wait for it to go away.


  1.  On the donations page of the website www.wnyc.org, 
the combo boxes for state and country don't give any information, e.g., state 
abbreviations. These combo boxes do work with IE11. A similar problem came up 
on another website with Firefox 60, but I can't be sure I've diagnosed the 
problem yet.


  1.  Placemarkers are behaving erratically. None carried over from Firefox 
52ESR, so I've had to start over again putting them in place. One repeating 
problem is that even though I uncheck the box that would apply the placemarker 
throughout a website, the placemarkers all apply on every page. This means I've 
accumulated twelve placemarkers on every page of one website I regularly visit, 
even though I want at most three per page.


  1.  I'm also finding that some placemarkers just don't work when I press the 
k key. Even though the placemarker list shows one for that location, k doesn't 
locate it.

I'm working with JAWS 2018.1804.26.400,, and my OS is Windows 7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking braille display model

[Adrian Spratt]

No one responded on-list. Could you contact the manufacturer?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking braille display model

Hello,

A friend is wanting to sale me his Focus 40 braill display but he doesn”t 
remember its model. I have the serial number but I don’t know how to check the 
model to be able to negotiate the price. Is there a way to check the display 
model by the serial number?

Negoslav Sabev

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

[Adrian Spratt]

Jerry, on your centered heading question, one way would be to press JAWS key+z 
to bring up "quick keys." Press h for "heading" to reach each heading in the 
document, then  press the JAWS key+z toggle to get out of quick keys."
One way to determine if a heading is centered is to press alt+delete at the 
beginning of the line to see if it is farther in than your margin. 
A less safe way is to press control+e and note what JAWS reports. Control+e 
toggles between center text and left-align. The risk here is that you might 
affect the format of more parts of the document, such as the text immediately 
following. But if JAWS reports that text is now left-aligned, it means it was 
centered, so press control+e again to re-center it. 
It's possible MS word's control+f find command is able to locate centered text, 
but I find that part of the find command way too complicated to work with.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
jerry martin
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 5:57 PM
To: Jaws Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS Word Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Usin JAWS 2018, Word 2013 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, can anyone tell me 
how to find out if there are any centered headins in a Word document? Also, on 
the same loptop, for some reason, the letter to the riht f key will not show up 
on the screen. JAWS will say the key, thouh. 
Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using

[Adrian Spratt]

Press together the three keys control+JAWS key+s. JAWS will verbalize the 
currently running synthesizer. Make a mental note of it, then arrow up and down 
to see if you have others running on your system. Be sure to return focus to 
the original line before escaping out of the dialog, unless you mean to change 
synthesizers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:44 PM
To: JAWS-Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using

Good Afternoon:

I admit to not paying much attention to changes in JAWS for the last several 
versions.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can find out which 
synthesizer and voice/person I am using?  I'm pretty sure it is Eloquence and 
it is a male voice.  I'm running J18 on 64 bit Windows
7 and I don't want to end up with another voice I can't understand while I 
fumble around.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws OCR?

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi. If you're working with the JAWS OCR feature, the OCR conversion takes place 
in a separate window. I assume you know that, hence your question. But I'm 
guessing there's a question behind this one. Maybe you could explain why you 
want the OCR conversion to occur in the same window.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
arvind singh brar
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 1:12 PM
To: Jaws Users Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws ocr?

Hello all,
I am using jaws 18 and was wondering if it was possible to do an ocr on images 
with text in it, in a  webpage without leaving the page?
Is it possibel to do so; and if it is, how do i do it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you so much 
Dr. Aarvind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to stop saying list start and list end

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm having the same experience: Typing "list" into the JAWS quick settings edit 
field produces no results. I did the same in the JAWS settings center, where I 
get five unrelated results. In both cases, I did so in IE and Firefox. windows 
Win7, JAWS 2018 ( current release). I'm wondering if some other setting is 
preventing this option from appearing in certain systems. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to stop saying list start and list end

Hi Mike,

Did you type, list, into the search field of, Jaws Quick Settings, or the 
search field of the website?  If you typed, list, into the search field of Jaws 
Quick Settings you need to arrow down after a few seconds of typing to get the 
results.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Mote
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to stop saying list start and list end


Hi Mike!  I did as you suggested, but I did not see any results in the search 
area.  I'm not sure why this setting is not showing for me.  Any ideas?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to stop saying list start and list end

Hi Mike,

Try the following to see if it'll do what you need:
While on a webpage open Jaws quick settings with, Insert / Jaws key + V.
Type, List, into the search field and wait for the the results to populate.
Arrow down to, Lists identify Show Start and End, checked.  Uncheck this box, 
tab to, Okay, and press enter to save and close.
Hope this helps.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Mote
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 10:35 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to stop saying list start and list end


Hi folks!  Is there a way to tell JAWS to stop saying list start and list end 
when encountering a list of items on a web page?  Someone at our company asked 
me if there was a way, and I thought I would ask the group.  Many thanks!





Mike Mote

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Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading an MP3 from link in an email

[Adrian Spratt]

George, just a guess, but if you choose the third option, copy, and then paste 
the result into a browser's "open" field, you might get the alt-n options, 
including save and open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 2:00 PM
To: JAWS USERS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] downloading an MP3 from link in an email

Hello all,
I have been emailed a link to access an MP3 recorded webinar.
How do I download the MP3 instead of activating and listening to the MP3?
When I right click on the link in the email the only 3 choices I get are 
Select, open, or copy hyperlink.
 
George A. Martinez, CPA
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Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Adrian Spratt]

iple versions of JAWS- including the latest 2018 
April update- in multiple versions of Outlook and on both Win 7 and Win 10- and 
is being experienced by many users.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

 Did that is there anyway when changing it to read email in plain text to have 
it put you at the top of the message automatically?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Dennis,

Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


I have this issue as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a 
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As Dave 
urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a 
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS 
periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). 
JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent 
reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, 
JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail 
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I 
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor 
this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on 
the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the 
only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and 
Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Adrian Spratt]

 update- in multiple versions of Outlook and on both Win 7 and Win 10- and 
is being experienced by many users.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

 Did that is there anyway when changing it to read email in plain text to have 
it put you at the top of the message automatically?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Dennis,

Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


I have this issue as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a 
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As Dave 
urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a 
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS 
periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). 
JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent 
reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, 
JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail 
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I 
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor 
this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on 
the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the 
only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and 
Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes. Okay, I checked my programs to make sure Avast hadn't been installed. If 
it installs with a modified name, such as Firefox showing up as Mozilla 
Firefox, let me know and I'll double-check. But like Orlando, I also had no 
problem of this kind installing the previous version. It does seem that the 
people at CCleaner got the message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Gerald Levy 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


So are you saying that you were able to download and install the standard 
version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast being 
installed along withit?

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Really helpful, and you gave me the confidence just now to download and install 
the CCleaner update. One more note. Now, when you click the button to upgrade 
from the program, the first page has two links near the bottom, one saying 
"Yes" and the other "No." Click no to get past the business/pro versions, and 
then on the next page you can safely use a download link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
The CCleaner download page is somewhat counterintuitive. However, once you 
activate one of the many download links, the standard installer will get 
downloaded to your default downloads directory.
Although CCleaner used to install Avast by default, there is good news. 
First, using the Jaws cursor in the installer, you can uncheck the relevant 
box. But better still, the last three versions of CCleaner standard did not 
automatically install any third party software. The check box for Avast is now 
absent.
At 07:11 AM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was
> >greeted with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for 
> >download.  Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the 
> >Builds page below, but when I went to this page, I could not find the 
> >slim version; only the standard and portable versions.  Does anyone  
> >>know
>what happened to the slim version of CCleaner?  Has it been  >discontinued? 
>I am reluctant to download the standard version because  >it will 
>automatically install Avast anti-virus surreptitiously, which  >is 
>difficult to impossible to remove without sighted help. I have  
>>Unchecky installed on my computer, but there no longer seems to be a  
>>detectable check box on the Standard installer interface which can be  
>>unchecked to prevent the installation of Avast.  Is there any way to  
>>install the standardversion of CCleaner without also installing Avast?
> Or is there another site from where the slim version of CCleaner 5.42
>  >can be downloaded?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Adrian Spratt]

Really helpful, and you gave me the confidence just now to download and install 
the CCleaner update. One more note. Now, when you click the button to upgrade 
from the program, the first page has two links near the bottom, one saying 
"Yes" and the other "No." Click no to get past the business/pro versions, and 
then on the next page you can safely use a download link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
The CCleaner download page is somewhat counterintuitive. However, once you 
activate one of the many download links, the standard installer will get 
downloaded to your default downloads directory. 
Although CCleaner used to install Avast by default, there is good news. First, 
using the Jaws cursor in the installer, you can uncheck the relevant box. But 
better still, the last three versions of CCleaner standard did not 
automatically install any third party software. The check box for Avast is now 
absent.
At 07:11 AM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
 >
 >When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was  
 >>greeted with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for  
 >>download.  Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the  
 >>Builds page below, but when I went to this page, I could not find the  >slim 
 >version; only the standard and portable versions.  Does anyone  >know what 
 >happened to the slim version of CCleaner?  Has it been  >discontinued?  I am 
 >reluctant to download the standard version because  >it will automatically 
 >install Avast anti-virus surreptitiously, which  >is difficult to impossible 
 >to remove without sighted help. I have  >Unchecky installed on my computer, 
 >but there no longer seems to be a  >detectable check box on the Standard 
 >installer interface which can be  >unchecked to prevent the installation of 
 >Avast.  Is there any way to  >install the standardversion of CCleaner without 
 >also installing Avast?
 > Or is there another site from where the slim version of CCleaner 5.42  >can 
 > be downloaded?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] single or double space inquiry on MS 2016 with JAWS 2018 using Lenovo laptop

[Adrian Spratt]

The simplest method is this:
Select the text you want single-spaced, then press control-1, meaning the 1 
above the letters. If you want the selected text to be double-spaced, press 
control-2.

There's another method, but it's more complicated to explain.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 2:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] single or double space inqury on MS 2016 with JAWS 2018 
using lenovo laptop

Hello listers,
what are the keystrokes for single space or double spacing in MS 2016 using 
JAWS 2018 with the lenovol laptop.
any one with the steps is much appreciated

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Adrian Spratt]

One workaround is to put the message into IE. You do this by pressing alt+h, a, 
v. that is, alt and h together, release, then a and release, then v. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes. Only solution I've found is to do a JAWS+Windows+F4 restart. Something in 
JAWS is getting confused, cluttered, or forgetful.

Dave
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- Original Message -
From: "Cher Bosch" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 14:59
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a 
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As Dave 
urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a 
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS 
periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). 
JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent 
reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, 
JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again. 

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail 
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I 
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor 
this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on 
the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the 
only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and 
Outlook 2013.

Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] alt tabbing between programs seem slower in latest version

[Adrian Spratt]

Query: Is it slower, or is the problem that JAWS no longer announces the first 
window you switch to with alt-tab? This is my frustration. When I switch 
quickly between two windows, alt-tab works just as fast as before, but the 
failure to announce the first window slows me down because I then have to press 
insert-t to hear the window's title. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] alt tabbing between programs seem slower in latest version

Hi, when alt tabbing between windows seems much slower in this version I am 
compairing this with jaws18.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

[Adrian Spratt]

The way you describe how autocomplete is working for you in Outlook 2016 is 
also my experience. I often need to press enter on the selection, tab away from 
the "To" field, then shift-tab back to the "To" line to confirm the correct 
address has been accepted. There are alternative methods, but no need to go 
into them. Yes, this is different from my experience with Outlook 2010.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Well, the level 2 guy emptied auto complete because it wasn't working properly. 
It was providing addresses that had nothing to do with the first few letters. 
He told me that in order to rebuild it, I should write in the first few letters 
and then press control K which would bring up a list of relevant addresses. I 
should arrow down to the correct address and press enter. That address would 
then be filled in and would be part of my reconstruction of auto complete. So I 
was trying to send an email to the blind democracy list. I found the correct 
address. However, even though I followed his directions, auto complete filled 
in a different address which belonged to someone who used "blind" and his first 
name and whose address was in the list. Finally, I went to a word document 
where I'd stored the blind democracy address and copied and pasted it into the 
to field. The next time I tried to use auto complete for the blind democracy 
list, the correct address was filled in, but Jaws didn't read it until I 
pressed enter. The Jaws users name was filled in but again, Jaws didn't read it 
the way it normally does. I think I had to press enter or manually read the 
line. So it seems to me that Jaws isn't working properly with auto complete or 
auto complete isn't working properly or something.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Hi.

If you are having problems with auto-complete for entering recipient in the 
"to" field in Outlook, here's something that might work. At least, it works in 
Outlook 2010, and I believe I once tested this on 2016 at work, too.
Enter in the first few letters of the recipient. For example, for this list, I 
might type in "jaws". Write your message and use your send command. If there's 
more than one address that matches the criteria of what you entered, a list of 
matches will pop up before you send the message, and you can select the one 
that applies.

Not sure if this will really help you, but I notice that people often seem to 
have issues with JAWS and auto-complete, in that they don't know when an 
address has been filled out.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: April 23, 2018 9:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Well George,

Here's my latest report. I was looking at my to Miriam folder this evening with 
Magic and its voice, and I noted that BARD sent me an email that The New Yorker 
had arrived and was inserted into my wish list. So, in order to download it, I 
turned on Jaws 18, downloaded the magazine, and transferred it to an SD card 
for my VR Stream. While Jaws was still running, I went back to my to Miriam 
folder in Outlook, and had no problem looking through the list of emails and 
reading some of them. I then sent a second article to the blind democracy list 
and this time, the auto complete  worked beautifully.
The first time, I had to copy the blind democracy address from a document where 
I've stored it because the auto complete wouldn't work. I was sure that if I 
moved from the to Miriam folder to the inbox while jaws is running, Outlook 
would crash. However, here I am, responding to your email which, with all the 
other emails from lists, is in the inbox. Outlook didn't crash. Jaws is fine. 

I'm sure the problem isn't solved. That article that I sent to the blind 
democracy list got there, but another copy was sitting around and refusing to 
leave or explain why it was there. Eventually some buttons appeared and I tried 
pressing them and one of them made the extra copy disappear. I'll stop while 
I'm ahead and wonder what tomorrow will bring.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Miriam,
That is very interesting, a conflict between Office 365 & JAWS.  It happens 
often but never heard of it like this with Outlook.
As soon as I moved from MAGic and JAWS18 to Fusion I have a very disturbing 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Justin.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

You can also use alt windows I to just use it without having to turn it on.
It will go from inconsistency to inconsistency.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

I finally used Text Analyzer the other day and found that it picked up such 
things as change in font when text was bolded or italicized. You can turn this 
feature on and off in JAWS' quick settings men (insert-v). another way to get 
this information while reading is with JAWS' speech and sounds, but I haven't 
used it in a while and was hoping someone with more experience would reply with 
more specifics.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Debby
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

You can also try JAWS key plus F to get more information. 

Debby


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:46 PM, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Try looking at the different fields using the say-color command, which 
> is
insert-5.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "jerry martin"
<jyandt.mar...@comcast.net>
> To: "Jaws Users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:49 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections
> 
> 
>> Afternoon all.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way, in JAWS 2018, to select a way 
>> for
jaws to indicate whether or not an aspect of an online job application can be 
spoken with a voice inflection to indicate as to if a portion of the 
application is highlighted? While on the application site, if a portion is not 
filled out correctly, I would get a message stating that the application could 
not be processed and to select the portion that is highlighted. I hope this 
makes sense. I am using JAWS 2018, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.
Thanks for any information/advice.
>> 
>> --
>> Jerry D. Martin
>> 
>> 730 MANOR ST.
>> HOUSTON, TEXAS 77015
>> HOME: (713) 450-2882
>> CELL: (832) 876-6819
>> EMAIL: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
>> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

[Adrian Spratt]

I finally used Text Analyzer the other day and found that it picked up such 
things as change in font when text was bolded or italicized. You can turn this 
feature on and off in JAWS' quick settings men (insert-v). another way to get 
this information while reading is with JAWS' speech and sounds, but I haven't 
used it in a while and was hoping someone with more experience would reply with 
more specifics.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Debby
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections

You can also try JAWS key plus F to get more information. 

Debby


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:46 PM, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Try looking at the different fields using the say-color command, which is 
> insert-5.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "jerry martin" 
> To: "Jaws Users" 
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 1:49 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speech Inflections
> 
> 
>> Afternoon all.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way, in JAWS 2018, to select a way for jaws 
>> to indicate whether or not an aspect of an online job application can be 
>> spoken with a voice inflection to indicate as to if a portion of the 
>> application is highlighted? While on the application site, if a portion is 
>> not filled out correctly, I would get a message stating that the application 
>> could not be processed and to select the portion that is highlighted. I hope 
>> this makes sense. I am using JAWS 2018, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
>> Thanks for any information/advice.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jerry D. Martin
>> 
>> 730 MANOR ST.
>> HOUSTON, TEXAS 77015
>> HOME: (713) 450-2882
>> CELL: (832) 876-6819
>> EMAIL: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

[Adrian Spratt]

>From within the United States, you can now call VFO/FS for tech support 
>tollfree at 800-444-4443. I don't know if it's also true for Canada.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
David Whitehead
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

good morning;
I would definitely contact freedom scientific regarding this issue.
you can email them using the following email address;

supp...@freedomscientific.com

or, you can give them a call;

727-803-8600



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 9:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Well George,

Here's my latest report. I was looking at my to Miriam folder this evening with 
Magic and its voice, and I noted that BARD sent me an email that The New Yorker 
had arrived and was inserted into my wish list. So, in order to download it, I 
turned on Jaws 18, downloaded the magazine, and transferred it to an SD card 
for my VR Stream. While Jaws was still running, I went back to my to Miriam 
folder in Outlook, and had no problem looking through the list of emails and 
reading some of them. I then sent a second article to the blind democracy list 
and this time, the auto complete  worked beautifully.
The first time, I had to copy the blind democracy address from a document where 
I've stored it because the auto complete wouldn't work. I was sure that if I 
moved from the to Miriam folder to the inbox while jaws is running, Outlook 
would crash. However, here I am, responding to your email which, with all the 
other emails from lists, is in the inbox. Outlook didn't crash. Jaws is fine. 

I'm sure the problem isn't solved. That article that I sent to the blind 
democracy list got there, but another copy was sitting around and refusing to 
leave or explain why it was there. Eventually some buttons appeared and I tried 
pressing them and one of them made the extra copy disappear. I'll stop while 
I'm ahead and wonder what tomorrow will bring.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

Miriam,
That is very interesting, a conflict between Office 365 & JAWS.  It happens 
often but never heard of it like this with Outlook.
As soon as I moved from MAGic and JAWS18 to Fusion I have a very disturbing 
issue with my QuickBooks.  I believe this is definitely an issue with JAWS 
because my sighted  son makes QuickBooks work fine without JAWS18.
One of these days when fixing one issue or another the VFO team will make a 
change and one or both of our issues will suddenly go away  FROWN

George A. Martinez, CPA
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loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 4:12 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Level 2

In case anyone is interested, the Microsoft Level 2 Disabilities  tech guy was 
unable to solve my Outlook 2016 problem. I am able to write this email because 
Jaws is turned off and I'm using the Magic voice. This allows me to move from 
the inbox to the to Miriam folder and to move through the list of emails and 
open and read them. However, although he emptied out the auto reply and told me 
how to get it to function properly, his directions don't work consistently. 
They worked for this email, I think. We'll see if it gets to the correct place. 
The directions did not work for my blind democracy list. The incorrect address 
was placed in the to field, no matter what I did. The tech thinks there's a 
conflict between Jaws and Outlook 2016, something about the Jaws driver. He's 
sending the problem up to Level three.
Meanwhile, I'm receiving some messages in duplicate. Yesterday, David worked 
with me for hours to try to fix things, and he was unable to do so. The new 
account that he set up in Optimum, apparently wouldn't work because today, with 
Microsoft, I had to go back to the password for the original account. I am so 
grateful for all David's time and patience. I know that I will need him again 
to tidy things up if Microsoft can actually get Outlook to work with Jaws.

 

I would appreciate step by step directions for putting back my permanent blind 
copy field, but pehaps, I'll need to wait to do that until Jaws is working 
again. There are things that the Magic voice can't do.

 

Miriam

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

[Adrian Spratt]

Perfect example of different synths. With Dectalk Express, the first syllable 
is also emphasized in "boughee."

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 12:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

Thanks!  I like the accent on the first syllable.  Good job.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Brian Lee
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

Using Eloquence you might try Bouwi 

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of DGH
Sent: April 23, 2018 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

Thanks, that's probably as close as I am going to get.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

Try b-o-u-g-h-e-e. It does what you want with my Dectalk Express synthesizer. 
Keep in mind that different synthesizers sometimes respond differently to JAWS 
dictionary entries.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

I am trying to get Jaws to pronounce the word, Baue correctly.  It should be 
pronounced like the Hawaiian island, Maui but with a B instead of an M.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

[Adrian Spratt]

Try b-o-u-g-h-e-e. It does what you want with my Dectalk Express synthesizer. 
Keep in mind that different synthesizers sometimes respond differently to JAWS 
dictionary entries.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of DGH
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Pronunciation Dictionary

I am trying to get Jaws to pronounce the word, Baue correctly.  It should be 
pronounced like the Hawaiian island, Maui but with a B instead of an M.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam, I solved this problem, which I also encountered on installing Office 
2016. However, I need to check my notes and right now I'm headed out for lunch. 
I'll follow up as soon as I can.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 12:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

And now I discovered a new issue which is a result of Microsoft reinstalling 
office 365. When I try to open a word document now, it doesn't open 
automatically. Instead, I am presented with something called, backstage view. 
If I tab around, I get to, open new document. The person who set this up for me 
a year ago February, set it up so the document just opened automatically.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Miriam,

It sounds as though someone created a "message rule" for your email so that it 
goes to that defective folder. You can delete that rule. Try the
following:

Place focus in a message list next to a message where your name is in the "To" 
line.

Press the applications key, which is between the right-hand Windows and control 
keys.

Arrow down to "Rules submenu." Press enter.

Tab until you hear "Manage rules and alerts..." Press the spacebar here.

Tab again until you hear "Delete." Once again, press the spacebar.

I just went through these steps to make sure they work. However, since I don't 
want to remove any of my existing rules, I couldn't go further. I suggest you 
keep tabbing from there in case there's an "Apply" button. If there is, press 
the spacebar on it. either way, resume tabbing to the Okay button.

I hope you can follow these steps and that they solve this part of your email 
problem.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

George,

Someone set up the "to Miriam" folder for me. The new emails sent directly to 
me are all going there directly. But emails coming to me through email lists 
that I'm on, are arriving in the inbox. This has always been the setup I've 
had. The problem is that the "to Miriam" folder won't work. When I go to it, it 
closes Outlook. Before Microsoft Disabilities worked on the problem, the inbox 
didn't work either.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
I am really jammed right now until the end of the month or I would research 
this out for you.  I will save your email and at end of next week if it is 
still an issue I will see if I can resolve it for you.
Meanwhile, 1.) how did you get that "To Miriam" folder and  2.) are all of your 
new emails going there instead of into your Inbox?

George A. Martinez, CPA
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

What I would like is for someone to tell me step by step how to undo my, "to 
miriam", folder, and to move what's there to my inbox so that I can read it and 
so that all my emails go to my inbox. That would solve one problem. I could 
receive and answer all my emails.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Thank you for these explanations, George. You've explained one or two things 
here that I never fully understood. I hope they also give Miriam a few pointers 
to start unraveling her email nightmare.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
ga.marti...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
Not sure about your many issues but the multiple copies of emails is not 
Outlook's fault.  
That is somethin

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm afraid it won't solve that part of the problem. Perhaps David whitehead can 
work much of this out for you. If anyone can, it's him.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

I'll try. If I do that, what will happen to the more than eighty messages that 
are currently in the, to Miriam, folder?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 10:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Miriam,

It sounds as though someone created a "message rule" for your email so that it 
goes to that defective folder. You can delete that rule. Try the
following:

Place focus in a message list next to a message where your name is in the "To" 
line.

Press the applications key, which is between the right-hand Windows and control 
keys.

Arrow down to "Rules submenu." Press enter.

Tab until you hear "Manage rules and alerts..." Press the spacebar here.

Tab again until you hear "Delete." Once again, press the spacebar.

I just went through these steps to make sure they work. However, since I don't 
want to remove any of my existing rules, I couldn't go further. I suggest you 
keep tabbing from there in case there's an "Apply" button. If there is, press 
the spacebar on it. either way, resume tabbing to the Okay button.

I hope you can follow these steps and that they solve this part of your email 
problem.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

George,

Someone set up the "to Miriam" folder for me. The new emails sent directly to 
me are all going there directly. But emails coming to me through email lists 
that I'm on, are arriving in the inbox. This has always been the setup I've 
had. The problem is that the "to Miriam" folder won't work. When I go to it, it 
closes Outlook. Before Microsoft Disabilities worked on the problem, the inbox 
didn't work either.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
I am really jammed right now until the end of the month or I would research 
this out for you.  I will save your email and at end of next week if it is 
still an issue I will see if I can resolve it for you.
Meanwhile, 1.) how did you get that "To Miriam" folder and  2.) are all of your 
new emails going there instead of into your Inbox?

George A. Martinez, CPA
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

What I would like is for someone to tell me step by step how to undo my, "to 
miriam", folder, and to move what's there to my inbox so that I can read it and 
so that all my emails go to my inbox. That would solve one problem. I could 
receive and answer all my emails.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Thank you for these explanations, George. You've explained one or two things 
here that I never fully understood. I hope they also give Miriam a few pointers 
to start unraveling her email nightmare.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
ga.marti...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
Not sure about your many issues but the multiple copies of emails is not 
Outlook's fault.  
That is something happening with your email provider.  I would call their tech 
support and ask them to help with your receiving multiple copies of emails.
Also, do you know the difference between your email being set up as iMap or 
POP3?  By default Outlook likes to set up nowadays as iMap and if you do not 
have your email on 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam,

It sounds as though someone created a "message rule" for your email so that it 
goes to that defective folder. You can delete that rule. Try the following:

Place focus in a message list next to a message where your name is in the "To" 
line.

Press the applications key, which is between the right-hand Windows and control 
keys.

Arrow down to "Rules submenu." Press enter.

Tab until you hear "Manage rules and alerts..." Press the spacebar here.

Tab again until you hear "Delete." Once again, press the spacebar.

I just went through these steps to make sure they work. However, since I don't 
want to remove any of my existing rules, I couldn't go further. I suggest you 
keep tabbing from there in case there's an "Apply" button. If there is, press 
the spacebar on it. either way, resume tabbing to the Okay button.

I hope you can follow these steps and that they solve this part of your email 
problem.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

George,

Someone set up the "to Miriam" folder for me. The new emails sent directly to 
me are all going there directly. But emails coming to me through email lists 
that I'm on, are arriving in the inbox. This has always been the setup I've 
had. The problem is that the "to Miriam" folder won't work. When I go to it, it 
closes Outlook. Before Microsoft Disabilities worked on the problem, the inbox 
didn't work either.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
I am really jammed right now until the end of the month or I would research 
this out for you.  I will save your email and at end of next week if it is 
still an issue I will see if I can resolve it for you.
Meanwhile, 1.) how did you get that "To Miriam" folder and  2.) are all of your 
new emails going there instead of into your Inbox?

George A. Martinez, CPA
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

What I would like is for someone to tell me step by step how to undo my, "to 
miriam", folder, and to move what's there to my inbox so that I can read it and 
so that all my emails go to my inbox. That would solve one problem. I could 
receive and answer all my emails.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Thank you for these explanations, George. You've explained one or two things 
here that I never fully understood. I hope they also give Miriam a few pointers 
to start unraveling her email nightmare.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
ga.marti...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
Not sure about your many issues but the multiple copies of emails is not 
Outlook's fault.  
That is something happening with your email provider.  I would call their tech 
support and ask them to help with your receiving multiple copies of emails.
Also, do you know the difference between your email being set up as iMap or 
POP3?  By default Outlook likes to set up nowadays as iMap and if you do not 
have your email on a cell phone you should be using POP3.  Ask your email 
provider about that as well.  Also ask them to help you set your Outlook to 
delete messages off their server once downloaded.

George A. Martinez, CPA
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Well, Outlook is a mess. I have multiple copies of the same message some of the 
time, I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Thank you for these explanations, George. You've explained one or two things 
here that I never fully understood. I hope they also give Miriam a few pointers 
to start unraveling her email nightmare.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
ga.marti...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Hi Miriam,
Not sure about your many issues but the multiple copies of emails is not 
Outlook's fault.  
That is something happening with your email provider.  I would call their tech 
support and ask them to help with your receiving multiple copies of emails.
Also, do you know the difference between your email being set up as iMap or 
POP3?  By default Outlook likes to set up nowadays as iMap and if you do not 
have your email on a cell phone you should be using POP3.  Ask your email 
provider about that as well.  Also ask them to help you set your Outlook to 
delete messages off their server once downloaded.

George A. Martinez, CPA
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Well, Outlook is a mess. I have multiple copies of the same message some of the 
time, I can't get to the emails sent to the, "to Miriam", folder, I can't 
address emails unless I have the email address stored in a word document which 
I've kept with some addresses or if I can steal an address from an email list. 
If someone can figure this out and help, I'd love it. I don't do all that well 
with technology. I'm old. My hearing isn't great. I had a young sighted person 
here with me on Friday which made dealing with Microsoft easier, but  there 
were 2 calls with 2 different people and it took hours! And in the end, only 
one piece of the problem was fixed.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

Miriam, no, the problem isn't with JAWS 18, at least none of the ones you 
identify. I'm also using Outlook 2016, along with Windows 7. 
I have bad experiences with Microsoft Disability support, unless the problem 
turns out to be really simple, in which case I don't need them! I'll only call 
them as a last resort, and even then I've had to find someone else to fix the 
damage they do.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016


I'm wondering if there is a problem with Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016 because the 
Microsoft disabilities tech person thought that this might be causing my 
difficulty. Outlook stopped functioning. When I called, the first person set up 
a new profile in Outlook, whatever that is. But then the problem actdually 
persisted. Outlook would open, begin to work, and then stop functioning. I 
called again. The second tech person replaced all of office 365, promising that 
all the settings would remain the same. They didn't. But the other problem is 
that everything worked except the, "to Miriam", folder to which all my 
important emails go. That one continues to close. I asked him to remove that 
folder for me and set things up so that everything goes to the inbox, but he 
refused. Also, I can't address emails. Auto complete doesn't work properly and 
unrelated email addresses appear, even if I just try to write in an address. I 
managed to get to the address book one time, but couldn't use it to address  an 
email. I'm sending this because I can read emails from my inbox and use one of 
the email addresses  from that.
Microsoft is having someone from a higher level call back on Monday. Before 
that happens, I want to know if anyone who is still using Jaws 18 and is
using Outlook 2016   has had a similar problem.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, it would defeat the object if you set a placemarker and kept text that is 
certain to change.

From this exchange, I hope other listers will have found a few ways to make 
their placemarkers more reliable. When they were introduced many years ago, I 
thought they were one of those new FS features that didn't do much to merit the 
SMA update fee, but they've turned out to be a crucial part of Web navigation 
for me.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Hi Adrian,

Yes, Spanish JAWS versions fill this edit box automatically too, but I usually 
change this automatic text a bit, especially by making deletions.
As an example, in a website in which articles aren't marked with headings nor 
regions, I added a placemarker into the line it tells the estimated reading 
time.
When I first added this placemarker, the automatically generated text included 
the specific time of the article I opened at that time, for example: “Estimated 
reading time: 6 minutes”.
To make the placemarker helpful for all articles, in addition to checking the 
box to apply this placemarker for all pages in the current domain, in the 
automatically generated text I removed everything after the colon.

You surely also keep this in mind when creating a placemarker, but I never 
needed to mark a place in which there is a link to make the placemarker to be 
reliable. The only case in which I had bad experiences was visiting a 
previously placemarked page but using a different web browser than the one used 
when I created the placemarkers. I suppose this is somewhat related to the 
Responsive Web Design about which Freedom Scientific posted on their blog at 
the end of 2017, but I had problems even on very standard HTMLs.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Yes, Fernando, and I usually check that box. To add to what you write here, 
when you check the "anchor to text" box, a new tab field appears with the text 
JAWS detects at that location. This is the edit field you refer to, but (as I'm 
sure you know) it isn't blank. You have a choice of keeping  that text or, as 
you suggest, typing in something different. However, I can't quite see why one 
would write something different. Regardless, this "anchor to text" option in 
the dialog can help in maintaining the placemarker but, in my experience, it is 
no guarantee. Even if the Website designer keeps the same text there, I've 
found that a text-associated placemarker isn't necessarily reliable unless it 
is also associated with a link. 

It sounds as though your experience might be different. I wonder, for example, 
if the Spanish version of JAWS doesn't fill in the edit field. 

I should mention that I haven't read anywhere about this link relationship. 
It's just something I noticed over time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Hi Adrian,

Have you looked at the Associate with Text checkbox? When adding a placemarker 
this checkbox is unchecked by default, so you mark a line in the virtual 
representation instead of a specific text, therefore any small change on the 
page causes the link or whatever unit you have marked to be misslocated.
If you know a string of text that the part you want to mark always have 
regardless of changes, you can check this checkbox, tab once and enter the 
corresponding part of text. By the way, you will always reach the same element 
as long as the string of text you have associated to the placemarker is 
present, no matter of the line number.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always hold their 
place, which is true. However, I've found that they are dependable when I put 
them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a line or two away from a logical 
spot, but I think they've been stable every time I do this.
As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with 
control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[Adrian Spratt]

Yes, Fernando, and I usually check that box. To add to what you write here, 
when you check the "anchor to text" box, a new tab field appears with the text 
JAWS detects at that location. This is the edit field you refer to, but (as I'm 
sure you know) it isn't blank. You have a choice of keeping  that text or, as 
you suggest, typing in something different. However, I can't quite see why one 
would write something different. Regardless, this "anchor to text" option in 
the dialog can help in maintaining the placemarker but, in my experience, it is 
no guarantee. Even if the Website designer keeps the same text there, I've 
found that a text-associated placemarker isn't necessarily reliable unless it 
is also associated with a link. 

It sounds as though your experience might be different. I wonder, for example, 
if the Spanish version of JAWS doesn't fill in the edit field. 

I should mention that I haven't read anywhere about this link relationship. 
It's just something I noticed over time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Hi Adrian,

Have you looked at the Associate with Text checkbox? When adding a placemarker 
this checkbox is unchecked by default, so you mark a line in the virtual 
representation instead of a specific text, therefore any small change on the 
page causes the link or whatever unit you have marked to be misslocated.
If you know a string of text that the part you want to mark always have 
regardless of changes, you can check this checkbox, tab once and enter the 
corresponding part of text. By the way, you will always reach the same element 
as long as the string of text you have associated to the placemarker is 
present, no matter of the line number.

Hope it helps!

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Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always hold their 
place, which is true. However, I've found that they are dependable when I put 
them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a line or two away from a logical 
spot, but I think they've been stable every time I do this.
As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with 
control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Same with 2018.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Sharon S
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

Hi, sorry coming in late on this but slowly catching up on a huge pile of 
emails. I too have had this problem with allot of my documents. I looked into 
the font setting  and all looked fine so I got a sighted family member to look 
at one of my documents and all was fine. I have bought this up with someone 
from VFO and was told it was going to be fixed in the next update but that was 
months ago and so far no fix. I am using Jaws 18 on this machine but haven't 
checked the same documents on the machine running Jawx 2018. At first I thought 
it was something funny with my machine until I mentioned it to this VFO person 
and I am now glad to see there are others reporting the same thing.

Hopefully it will be fixed soon.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

Hi Annette,

Thank you very much for the confirmation.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: amca...@verizon.net
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016


Hi Mike,

Based on what I have figured out, the black on black announcement from JAWS is 
not accurate.  Visually it is black on white.  I have not played with actual 
font colors and backgrounds to see how JAWS reports seeing the colors, but I 
have found that using the "highlighter" JAWS accurately reports the highlight 
color and the text as being black.  I wasted a lot of time trying to figure 
this out and got nowhere.  I finally snagged a co-worker who was walking by my 
office and borrowed their eyes.  They reported that everything looked fine on 
the screen as well as when I printed it out.  I've not checked any of this out 
in Excel.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:57 PM
To: Jaws-Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018 latest, with Office 2016.  In Word Jaws 
is reporting that the colors are, black on black.  Where do I go to change  the 
background color to white?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam, no, the problem isn't with JAWS 18, at least none of the ones you 
identify. I'm also using Outlook 2016, along with Windows 7. 
I have bad experiences with Microsoft Disability support, unless the problem 
turns out to be really simple, in which case I don't need them! I'll only call 
them as a last resort, and even then I've had to find someone else to fix the 
damage they do.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016


I'm wondering if there is a problem with Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016 because the 
Microsoft disabilities tech person thought that this might be causing my 
difficulty. Outlook stopped functioning. When I called, the first person set up 
a new profile in Outlook, whatever that is. But then the problem actdually 
persisted. Outlook would open, begin to work, and then stop functioning. I 
called again. The second tech person replaced all of office 365, promising that 
all the settings would remain the same. They didn't. But the other problem is 
that everything worked except the, "to Miriam", folder to which all my 
important emails go. That one continues to close. I asked him to remove that 
folder for me and set things up so that everything goes to the inbox, but he 
refused. Also, I can't address emails. Auto complete doesn't work properly and 
unrelated email addresses appear, even if I just try to write in an address. I 
managed to get to the address book one time, but couldn't use it to address an 
email. I'm sending this because I can read emails from my inbox and use one of 
the email addresses  from that.
Microsoft is having someone from a higher level call back on Monday. Before 
that happens, I want to know if anyone who is still using Jaws 18 and is
using Outlook 2016   has had a similar problem.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[Adrian Spratt]

It's a right hand shifted one line left of its normal position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Is this another language?

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From: "Justin Williams" <justin.willia...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers


Didn't tgubj if tgatm  
Thanms,
 Justin

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always hold
their place, which is true. However, I've found that they are dependable
when I put them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a line or two away
from a logical spot, but I think they've been stable every time I do this.
As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with
control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[Adrian Spratt]

That's for temporary placemarkers.

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arvind singh brar
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 9:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

Isn't it control plus windows plus k?

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> On 21 Apr 2018, at 8:48 PM, Justin Williams <justin.willia...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Didn't tgubj if tgatm
> Thanms,
> Justin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers
> 
> Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always 
> hold their place, which is true. However, I've found that they are 
> dependable when I put them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a 
> line or two away from a logical spot, but I think they've been stable every 
> time I do this.
> As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with 
> control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Permanent placemarkers

[Adrian Spratt]

Earlier this week, Justin commented that placemarkers don't always hold their 
place, which is true. However, I've found that they are dependable when I put 
them on a link. Sometimes it means putting it a line or two away from a logical 
spot, but I think they've been stable every time I do this.
As a reminder, the dialog to set a permanent placemarker is begun with 
control-shift-k. Tab from there.
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages; correction

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm really sorry to drag this out, but I just realized I posted the wrong key 
combo for a temporary placemarker in a browser: It's control-Windows key-k.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:49 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a distraction. 
Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word, 
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature, control 
f, could laos be used.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use it. 
Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven items 
of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous versions of 
JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on transferring each item 
to a Word file. This is already a tedious process that requires concentration. 
Your idea will help, but it's still an extra precaution I shouldn't need to 
take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker in a 
browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you set a 
new one or close the window. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you have 
to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from a 
webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left off. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and spoken 
to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS quick settings 
that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make these changes when 
using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my day switching between 
versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else experiencing 
this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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