[JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 release notes wikis
4.0.4 sections have been added to: http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossReleaseNotes http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=404UpgradeIssues Scott Stark VP Architecture Technology JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Just to keep y'all up-to-date, I have one more piece of code to do before I cut the Hibernate release for use with 4.0.4. It'll be done today... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:38 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Just do a 4.0.5 soon after than. I don't want to push the 4.0.4.GA as Dimitris said people have been waiting on it for a while. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It would be cool if we could push GA a bit further after CR2. I would like to do a big push for EJB3 final draft(and my book) compliance with 4.0.4 and need more than 2 weeks as I'm on vacation for 10 days in between. Scott M Stark wrote: Ok. We want the 4.0.4.CR2 out this week and the GA two weeks latter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:17 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Just to keep y'all up-to-date, I have one more piece of code to do before I cut the Hibernate release for use with 4.0.4. It'll be done today... Great; I created a task to track the hibernate upgrade: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-3009 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
That sounds like a plan. Scott M Stark wrote: Just do a 4.0.5 soon after than. I don't want to push the 4.0.4.GA as Dimitris said people have been waiting on it for a while. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It would be cool if we could push GA a bit further after CR2. I would like to do a big push for EJB3 final draft(and my book) compliance with 4.0.4 and need more than 2 weeks as I'm on vacation for 10 days in between. Scott M Stark wrote: Ok. We want the 4.0.4.CR2 out this week and the GA two weeks latter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:17 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Since the CR2 is going to be on the order of a week late, the GA needs to be pushed back a week to give at least 2 weeks for feedback. The week of the 10th should be the new GA target. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:09 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
4.0.4CR2 is going to go out with 3.2.0alpha2 as next release of EJB3 requires it. Steve Ebersole wrote: No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Yep. Ok, so I'll implement that one mentioned feature and cut alpha3 which we can use in 4.0.4... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:45 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
This goes back to the previous discussion sometime last week. JBoss itself *should* keep bundling 3.1.x - preferably 3.1.3 as soon as I release it today/tomorrow; that is the stable release cycle. But that screws EJB3 for the previously mentioned reasons. So what's the solution? Here's the roadmap: http://opensource2.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH?report=co m.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel As you can see, I am nowhere near even a beta according to any known definition of beta of which I am aware. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language
Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Steve Ebersole wrote: This goes back to the previous discussion sometime last week. JBoss itself *should* keep bundling 3.1.x - preferably 3.1.3 as soon as I release it today/tomorrow; that is the stable release cycle. But that screws EJB3 for the previously mentioned reasons. So what's the solution? Here's the roadmap: http://opensource2.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH?report=co m.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel As you can see, I am nowhere near even a beta according to any known definition of beta of which I am aware. What exactly is preventing a 3.2 FINAL and deferring bugs/features until 3.2.1? I do this with EJB3 all the time. If there is a date I have to make, I drop bugs/features from the release to make the date, or move the date if this isn't possible. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Sure, I do this also; but: (1) I prefer not adding brand new features in a point release, if possible. (2) The query parser re-work represents a significant change in the code-base, which I'd also prefer to not include in a point release. Another option, I guess, is to cut a 3.2 final after this last feature needed for EJB3, and then immediately start on 3.3... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Steve Ebersole wrote: This goes back to the previous discussion sometime last week. JBoss itself *should* keep bundling 3.1.x - preferably 3.1.3 as soon as I release it today/tomorrow; that is the stable release cycle. But that screws EJB3 for the previously mentioned reasons. So what's the solution? Here's the roadmap: http://opensource2.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH?report=co m.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel As you can see, I am nowhere near even a beta according to any known definition of beta of which I am aware. What exactly is preventing a 3.2 FINAL and deferring bugs/features until 3.2.1? I do this with EJB3 all the time. If there is a date I have to make, I drop bugs/features from the release to make the date, or move the date if this isn't possible. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 relies on changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest changes in the spec (specifically the joinTransaction() stuff)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this week) so they get tested! After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 3rd April (give or take) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for Hibernate 3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there specifically for EJB3 persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
It seems like ejb3 should only be brining in a latter hibernate dependency via the installer and a custom build for testing. The default/all should not be bumped up to track ejb3 issues to an untested hibernate release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:54 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
It is up to y'all. I am fine with cutting a 3.2 final and then continuing HEAD development as 3.3. But the 3.2 release introduced some fairly different behavior in terms of non-transactional access more in-line with what is defined in the EJB3 spec. These changes are stricter than what Hibernate had previously allowed in these scenarios. I think everyone agrees that these are better behaviors, but certainly there are probably some users relying on the old bad behaviors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:39 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It seems like ejb3 should only be brining in a latter hibernate dependency via the installer and a custom build for testing. The default/all should not be bumped up to track ejb3 issues to an untested hibernate release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:54 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Your input is a large factor as well since I don't really know how different the hibernate 3.1rc2jboss version that was shipped with 4.0.3SP1 and the current version needed for ejb3. The first question, is what do you want bundled in terms of stability/support? If this is not what is needed for ejb3 then we need to decouple the jbossas build from the ejb3 hibernate dependency and deal with ejb3 as a separate component integrated into the installer with a separate hibernate dependency that replaces/differs from the default/all version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:11 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It is up to y'all. I am fine with cutting a 3.2 final and then continuing HEAD development as 3.3. But the 3.2 release introduced some fairly different behavior in terms of non-transactional access more in-line with what is defined in the EJB3 spec. These changes are stricter than what Hibernate had previously allowed in these scenarios. I think everyone agrees that these are better behaviors, but certainly there are probably some users relying on the old bad behaviors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:39 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It seems like ejb3 should only be brining in a latter hibernate dependency via the installer and a custom build for testing. The default/all should not be bumped up to track ejb3 issues to an untested hibernate release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:54 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Well the other piece to the puzzle is the differences between that Hibernate version you mentioned and 3.1.3. If the differences there are drastic enough, then I see even more of an argument to move to 3.2 for the AS bundle. Another thing to consider is portal (which AFAIK is still the only other bundled user of the deployer stuff). Specifically, will the non-transactional access changes cause them problems? Julien; Roy? I'll go back and analyze the changes made since the bundled 3.1rc2jboss. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:37 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Your input is a large factor as well since I don't really know how different the hibernate 3.1rc2jboss version that was shipped with 4.0.3SP1 and the current version needed for ejb3. The first question, is what do you want bundled in terms of stability/support? If this is not what is needed for ejb3 then we need to decouple the jbossas build from the ejb3 hibernate dependency and deal with ejb3 as a separate component integrated into the installer with a separate hibernate dependency that replaces/differs from the default/all version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:11 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It is up to y'all. I am fine with cutting a 3.2 final and then continuing HEAD development as 3.3. But the 3.2 release introduced some fairly different behavior in terms of non-transactional access more in-line with what is defined in the EJB3 spec. These changes are stricter than what Hibernate had previously allowed in these scenarios. I think everyone agrees that these are better behaviors, but certainly there are probably some users relying on the old bad behaviors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:39 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It seems like ejb3 should only be brining in a latter hibernate dependency via the installer and a custom build for testing. The default/all should not be bumped up to track ejb3 issues to an untested hibernate release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:54 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 I love those dependencies ;) Is it possible to have a final next week ? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:19 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Well the other piece to the puzzle is the differences between that Hibernate version you mentioned and 3.1.3. If the differences there are drastic enough, then I see even more of an argument to move to 3.2 for the AS bundle. Another thing to consider is portal (which AFAIK is still the only other bundled user of the deployer stuff). Specifically, will the non-transactional access changes cause them problems? Julien; Roy? I'll go back and analyze the changes made since the bundled 3.1rc2jboss. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:37 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Your input is a large factor as well since I don't really know how different the hibernate 3.1rc2jboss version that was shipped with 4.0.3SP1 and the current version needed for ejb3. The first question, is what do you want bundled in terms of stability/support? If this is not what is needed for ejb3 then we need to decouple the jbossas build from the ejb3 hibernate dependency and deal with ejb3 as a separate component integrated into the installer with a separate hibernate dependency that replaces/differs from the default/all version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:11 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It is up to y'all. I am fine with cutting a 3.2 final and then continuing HEAD development as 3.3. But the 3.2 release introduced some fairly different behavior in terms of non-transactional access more in-line with what is defined in the EJB3 spec. These changes are stricter than what Hibernate had previously allowed in these scenarios. I think everyone agrees that these are better behaviors, but certainly there are probably some users relying on the old bad behaviors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:39 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It seems like ejb3 should only be brining in a latter hibernate dependency via the installer and a custom build for testing. The default/all should not be bumped up to track ejb3 issues to an untested hibernate release. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitris Andreadis Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:54 AM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. Steve Ebersole wrote: Well, its *possible* to have a final release whenever I want ;) But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 will require which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. I need to release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to work on this particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final (nor even beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just to get to a 3.2 final. For me it comes down to whether this is a planned final release for EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Ok. We want the 4.0.4.CR2 out this week and the GA two weeks latter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:17 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
It would be cool if we could push GA a bit further after CR2. I would like to do a big push for EJB3 final draft(and my book) compliance with 4.0.4 and need more than 2 weeks as I'm on vacation for 10 days in between. Scott M Stark wrote: Ok. We want the 4.0.4.CR2 out this week and the GA two weeks latter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:17 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4
Just do a 4.0.5 soon after than. I don't want to push the 4.0.4.GA as Dimitris said people have been waiting on it for a while. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 6:54 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 It would be cool if we could push GA a bit further after CR2. I would like to do a big push for EJB3 final draft(and my book) compliance with 4.0.4 and need more than 2 weeks as I'm on vacation for 10 days in between. Scott M Stark wrote: Ok. We want the 4.0.4.CR2 out this week and the GA two weeks latter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ebersole Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:17 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 So provided we do not cause issues with portal, I say we go with a 3.2 final. Specific reasons: (1) Less issues with the version differences between AS and EJB3 (2) JBossCache optimistic locking support (only in 3.2) (3) Javassist support (only in 3.2) (4) Some performance enhancements relating to aggressive connection releasing on JBoss (although this is in 3.1.3 also). The only other real difference between 3.1.3 and 3.2 is the non-transactional stuff. The installer/build option seems a bit late in the game considering a release next week (#1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Inc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] 4.0.4.CR2 remaining tasks recap
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hi desorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolutionIds=-1pid=10030fi xfor=12310573 The major things left are (a) use jbossretro for jbossws (b) the installer (c) resolve existing testcases and any other failing tests that may pop up, especially in jbossws. The (d) misc items could also be deferred for GA. It would also help if we can run the 4.0 testsuite more often until we get the release out. (a) JBossRetro-ize JBossWS (Ryan, Ruel) JBAS-2791 JBAS-2510 depends on JBBUILD-188 depends on JBBUILD-194 JBBUILD-299 JBBUILD-300 JBBUILD-301 JBBUILD-302 (b) Installer (Scott) JBAS-2646 JBAS-2701 JBAS-2334 (c) Testcase resolution (Anil, Ruel) JBAS-2947 JBAS-2744 (d) Misc JBAS-2944 (Ben) JBAS-2865 (Scott) JBAS-2311 (Scott) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] 4.0.4.GA issues broken by area
We are some 190 JIRA tasks away from JBAS 4.0.4.GA, so please, don't be shy, browse through your area (or adopt a new one :) and qualify/tackle/reschedule tasks: WebServices 6 XML 3 WebSvr(tomcat) 8 Testsuite 5 System 1 Security11 Remoting4 Other 1 Naming 1 CMP 49 Deployment 14 Documentation 2 EJBs17 Hibernate 2 IIOP4 Installer 13 JBossCache 2 JCA 4 JMS 10 No component10 Build system5 Clustering 21 Merci /Dimitris --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development