[jdev] Renewing XSF Sponsorship for 2020

2020-04-16 Thread Ralph Meijer
<https://xmpp.org/community/sponsorship.html>. Should you have any questions, please let us know at that same e-mail address. Thank you for your consideration. Kind regards, Ralph Meijer Chair of the XMPP Standards Foundation ___ JDev m

Re: [jdev] XMPP Summit 24: January 30/31 2020

2019-08-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
😉 > > Regards > > Jon > > On 11 Aug 2019, at 20:10, Ralph Meijer wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Summer is almost over and the FOSDEM team has announced the dates of FOSDEM >> 2020: Saturday 1 and Sunday 2 February. As usual the XSF will organise the >>

[jdev] XMPP Summit 24: January 30/31 2020

2019-08-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi, Summer is almost over and the FOSDEM team has announced the dates of FOSDEM 2020: Saturday 1 and Sunday 2 February. As usual the XSF will organise the anual European XMPP Summit ahead of FOSDEM. So put these dates in your calendar and start planning your visit: * Thursday 30 January * Frid

[jdev] FOSDEM 2017 RTC Devroom and XMPP Summit

2016-11-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi all, Daniel Pocock has once again been taken on the job of managing the submissions for the Real-Time Communications developer room at FOSDEM. I'm sure you've seen his reminders for the CfP [1]. He mentioned that there a quite a number of submissions, but not so many on XMPP specifically,

[jdev] FOSDEM 2017 and XMPP Summit 21 dates

2016-07-21 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi all, The FOSDEM organization has announced the dates for the 2017 edition: Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 February. As usual, we will try to arrange for having another Realtime Lounge, as well as a devroom, as soon as the Call for Participation happens. Of course, you can already start thinking about:

[jdev] Fwd: [CFP] FOSDEM 2016, RTC devroom, speakers, volunteers neeeded

2015-11-20 Thread Ralph Meijer
web site. Contact === For discussion and queries, please join the free-rtc mailing list: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/free-rtc The dev-room administration team: Daniel Pocock Ralph Meijer Saúl Ibarra Corretgé Iain R. Learmonth

[jdev] 18th XMPP Summit -- October 9-10 -- Richland, WA, USA

2015-08-24 Thread Ralph Meijer
logistics, and (extentions of) your hotel booking at the Columbia River, contact <mailto:c...@andyet.com>. For questions about XSF Summit content, schedule, and plans, contact Ralph Meijer (<mailto:ral...@ik.nu> or ). -- Cheers, ralphm ___

Re: [jdev] manifesto 0.4

2013-10-30 Thread Ralph Meijer
Dave Cridland wrote: >On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Mathieu Pasquet >wrote: > >> >> Before signing the manifesto as a software developer, there are >> a few things that are unclear and I’m not sure we can commit to >> this just yet: >> >> Dropping SSLv2 is all good and I’m not even sure why SS

Re: [jdev] TLS Everywhere

2013-10-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 2013-10-29 09:17, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > [..] I just wanted to throw that in, I take it's not really possible to get that trademark back, although it is probably the term by which the network is best known by the end users. You can call it the Jabber network all you want, that's fair use

[jdev] [Twisted-Jabber] [ANNOUNCE] Wokkel 0.7.1

2013-01-12 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi! I am proud to announce version 0.7.1 of Wokkel, a set of enhancements on the Jabber/XMPP support in Twisted Words. http://wokkel.ik.nu/releases/0.7.1/wokkel-0.7.1.tar.gz The highlights: * This release addresses an incompatibility with Twisted 12.3.0, which made it impossible for

Re: [jdev] is everybody using XMPP without knowing it?

2013-01-09 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 2013-01-09 11:09, Dave Cridland wrote: On 9 Jan 2013 08:16, "Winfried Tilanus" mailto:winfr...@tilanus.com>> wrote: > > On 01/09/2013 08:58 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > > Hi, > > > Android intents (whole communication between the Android phone and > > Google Play store; when you click on th

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-17 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 2012-08-17 18:22, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/17/12 10:16 AM, Jack Moffitt wrote: Heck, it sounds like a simple little spec, maybe I'll write it up over the weekend. ;-) I suggest that the JavaScript side API be the same as the W3C one, so th

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-16 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 2012-08-16 10:41, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 08/16/2012 03:33 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > [..] More subtle and much harder to debug is that you may be comparing JIDs using string comparisons that are the same JID in a different representation. So we can continue our talk about how to solve the p

[jdev] [Twisted-Jabber] [ANNOUNCE] Wokkel 0.7.0

2012-01-23 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi! I am proud to announce version 0.7.0 of Wokkel, a set of enhancements on the Jabber/XMPP support in Twisted Words. http://wokkel.ik.nu/releases/0.7.0/wokkel-0.7.0.tar.gz The highlights: * Protocol support for Publish-Subscribe subscription options, subscription identifiers and nod

[jdev] [Fwd: [PubSub] Pubsub collection nodes.]

2009-11-24 Thread Ralph Meijer
--- Begin Message --- There's currently a discussion taking place on the pubsub list about whether pubsub collections are ever used in the wild (and whether they should be in spec). If you're using them, please subscribe to that list and add your experience to that discussion. /K --- End Message 

Re: [jdev] FOSDEM 2009, any xmpp?

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:50:21PM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Isn't the XMPP summit during the FOSDEM or even *at* the FOSDEM? We've done a summit two times in Brussels, now. And both were not at the FOSDEM venue, and (last time, partly) after the main event. -- Groetjes, ralphm ___

Re: [jdev] FOSDEM 2009, any xmpp?

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 06:18:24AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > I would really like to have a dev room this year so that our XMPP Summit > can be more focused on interop testing and dev hacking, and less focused > on sitting around yammering. Last year the supply of dev rooms was very > limite

Re: [jdev] TLS version clarification for RFC 3920

2008-10-14 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:38:38PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > Does RFC 3920 (bis?) specify what SSL/TLS versions should be supported? > > As far as I understand the versions are: > > SSLv2 = 2.? > SSLv3 = 3.0 > TLSv1 = 3.1 (as per RFC 2246) > > I would assume that most servers should suppo

Re: [jdev] XEP-0240

2008-05-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 07:56 -0700, anders conbere wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Jonathan Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You guys should also look at micro-formats. This would allow HTML something > > like the following: > > The creation of XEP-240 was definitely done with Mic

Re: [jdev] Reproducability of XEP-0115: Entity Capabilities - 5.3 Complex Generation Example

2008-05-06 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 09:43 +0200, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Ralph Meijer wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 00:35 +0200, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > >> Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>> We assume that the client received a dataform of type "form" and then > >

[jdev] Invisibility. Was: Presence of type "available" not allowed?

2008-05-06 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 15:52 +0200, Tomasz Sterna wrote: > Dnia 2008-05-05, pon o godzinie 07:35 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre pisze: > > >> http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0186.html > > > > > > I prefer: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0126.html > > > > Or something. :) > > > > Let's get consen

Re: [jdev] Reproducability of XEP-0115: Entity Capabilities - 5.3 Complex Generation Example

2008-05-06 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 00:35 +0200, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > We assume that the client received a dataform of type "form" and then > > submitted it (no need to include the types there because the entity > > you're submitting to sent you the form in the first place), and

Re: [jdev] console MUC client

2008-04-03 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 09:35 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Does anyone know of a good console MUC client, along the lines of irssi? > I know DJ Adams had one ages ago, but I'm not aware of any more modern > versions. True, DJ wrote sjabber in 2001, and I played with it again in 2005. Only took

Re: [jdev] Python/XMPP GSoC proposal

2008-03-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:42 -0400, James Walker wrote: > On 26-Mar-08, at 3:39 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > David Janes wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Kevin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Greg Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > wro

Re: [jdev] XEP-0060 Subscription Authorization

2007-12-03 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 13:05 -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Lindsay Oproman wrote: > > [..] > > If the node is configured for an access model of "authorize" then each > subscription request will need to be approved by the node owner, unless > the implementation includes some logic to pre-approve

Re: [jdev] Is there a library for PubSub?

2007-12-03 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:55 +, Phil Wilson wrote: > > On the component side you might want to check out Idavoll: > > Ah yes, I always forget Idavoll. > > The PubSub part of that has been factored out into Wokkel hasn't it? > Although I can't remember if it's standalone or not. > > I'll give

Re: [jdev] Managing Subscriptions

2007-10-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 22:55 +1000, Rick Measham wrote: > I'm trying to sort out how to get a bot to deal with subscriptions and > the RFC is just confusing me -- it switches between what a server should > do and what a client should do too often! > > The docs here: > http://wiki.jabber.org/ind

Re: [jdev] How to specify username with SASL ANONYMOUS

2007-10-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:48 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:40:26PM -0700, Justin Karneges wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 October 2007 2:11 pm, Mark Doliner wrote: > > > So I've read through XEP-0175[1], and I think I have a pretty good idea of > > > how SASL ANONYMOUS log

Re: [jdev] What is the purpose of the rspauth?

2007-04-20 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 10:22 +0800, LUKE wrote: > [..] > The decoded value for subsequent authentication is: > rspauth=ea40f60335c427b5527b84dbabcdfffd This can be used for so-called 'Subsequent Authentication'. See section 2.2 of RFC 2831. -- Groetjes, ralphm

[jdev] Planet Jabber unreachable

2007-03-26 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi all, We moved the server that hosts Planet Jabber to another location, and as a result it received a new IP address. Unfortunately, I just discovered that the DNS entry for planet.jabber.org is not a CNAME to mag.ik.nu (the server), but an A record to its old IP address. I'm sure that one of th

Re: [jdev] Re: Re: [jadmin] Problem building jabber-1.4.4

2007-03-24 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 15:37 +0100, Lars Sommer wrote: > Don't know if the same thing happened again? > - > Hi Matthias! > > Allright, her goes: Lars. Please take this off list. -- Groetjes, ralphm

[jdev] FOSDEM heads up. Was: updated DevCon info

2007-02-10 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 10:47:08PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > I've updated the information about the DevCon / interop event here: > > http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/DevCon > > Be there or be square. :-) The same holds for FOSDEM proper of course. We have a very nice line-up of activitie

Re: [jdev] how to program a jabber game server

2007-02-09 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:27 +, Richard Dobson wrote: > Also another issue is that some more complex games will need multiple > MUC rooms per game (i.e. per team rooms) so tieing the game to a single > room stops the protocol from being usable for implementing such games. I didn't apply such

Re: [jdev] how to program a jabber game server

2007-02-09 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:21 +, Richard Dobson wrote: > > Instead, I would opt for using a vanilla MUC service and write a bot > > that owns the room. That should allow plenty control. > > > Exactly, which is what I am doing as part of it for the in game chat, > the only problem with using M

Re: [jdev] how to program a jabber game server

2007-02-09 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 09:26 +, Richard Dobson wrote: > Daniel Noll wrote: > > On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:14, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > > > >> True, how very unfortunate. You can't host a muc using a bot (or can > >> you? - probably depends on the server) > >> > > > > Maybe you can

Re: [jdev] Re: XHTML-IM XEP implementation

2007-01-05 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 11:57 -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > So many times people have brought this up, but at no time has anyone > written up a spec for it. I wonder why? > > Do you want to include *all* XHTML content? Scripts? Media objects? Forms? > > If so, feel free to write up a spec for

Re: [jdev] Re: Question on XMPP URIs?

2006-12-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 13:38 +0100, Magnus Henoch wrote: > Ralph Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If you wanted to have a specific service to connect to before accessing > > the resource, you'd do: > > > > xmpp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [jdev] Question on XMPP URIs?

2006-12-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 13:08 +0100, Ralph Meijer wrote: > Complementing Cecil Sorry, I meant Cedric. Misfired neuron, probably. -- Groetjes, ralphm

Re: [jdev] Question on XMPP URIs?

2006-12-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 16:38 +0530, Ishan De Silva wrote: > Hi, > > Generally a URI is of the form "scheme://authority/path". For example > http://www.example.com/index.html > > A JID is of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource. If we have a JID > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/Home, according to RFC 4622, the

Re: [jdev] XEP-0004 and and

2006-12-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 15:13 +0200, Roelof Naude wrote: > hi > > apologies if this is not the correct list... > > i'm trying to send dataforms, encapsulated in a . none of the > clients (spark 2.0.4, kopete 0.9.0, psi 0.10, Coccinella 0.95.15) i've > tested seems to work, although the XEP do indic

Re: [jdev] MUC implementation (JEP-0045)?

2006-08-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Marco Balmer wrote: > Hello at all > > I am searching for a new MUC (JEP-0045) server-implementation. > Is there a PyMuc server or something like that available? Try looking back about 6 hours ago in the archives. -- Groetjes, ralphm

Re: [jdev] Online Game Group is pleased to announce a new version of palaver!

2006-08-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 09:20:46PM -0400, Christopher Zorn wrote: > [..] > > Added 'player' role and affiliation. Huh? I'm not sure if JEP-0045 allows custom roles/affiliations. Why you would you need that and why you would have both a role and an affiliation here. Could you expand on this a bit?

Re: [jdev] Jabber message Maximum length

2006-08-23 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 09:29 +0300, Mircea Bardac wrote: > On Tuesday 22 August 2006 17:53, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > Perhaps some server developers could come up with recommended sizes as a > > best practice. > > I'd be also interested in setting up the stanza maximum size somehow as a > strea

[jdev] Re: [Standards-JIG] Re: JEP-60

2006-07-05 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 10:11:37AM +0200, Remko Troncon wrote: > > so far. Are there any implementations that support JEP-60 so far that > > could be used as reference platform development and testing? > > Wildfire 3.0 has an implementation of JEP-60 v1.8, which is the latest > version of the spec

Re: [jdev] Limitations of XML Namespaces use

2006-07-04 Thread Ralph Meijer
am curious about that. Maybe you could work on improving Twisted's Jabber support instead? If you want to chat about this, contact me at . > Now, today I found a message by Ralph Meijer on this list pointing to > section 11.2.2 in RFC 3920, and I was very much surprised by this. I am > tal

Re: [jdev] help needed in communicating with jabber server

2006-07-01 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 01:50:52AM +0500, ali wrote: > Hello Every one > > While connecting my vb.net client to jabber server i am encountring with > problem mentioned below What Jabber server, and what version. If this is the complete trace, it should not happen. -- Groetjes, ralphm

Re: [jdev] VTD-XML version 1.6

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:56:04AM +0200, Michal vorner Vaner wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:18:52AM +0200, Ralph Meijer wrote: > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:10:41AM -0700, Jimmy Zhang wrote: > > > The other issue, the way I understand Jabberd, it is a router, how can >

Re: [jdev] VTD-XML version 1.6

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:10:41AM -0700, Jimmy Zhang wrote: > The other issue, the way I understand Jabberd, it is a router, how can > one not waiting for the entire document to arrive before routing the > message? > Also what kind of performance jabberd is performing? Do it have to > occasionall

Re: [jdev] Jabber for intranet

2006-04-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:00:31PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > On 4/28/06, Oliver Hohlfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Research has pointed out that most people can only handle around > >> 150 people. > >Can you provide further informations on this? Maybe a reference to > >a paper or somet

Re: [jdev] Jabber for intranet

2006-04-26 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 09:11:26AM +0200, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:03:24 +0200, Bandan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >... handling around a 1000 users... important requirement is that every > >user registered with the server should be on everyone's roster ... > > I thi

Re: [jdev] lluna documentation

2006-04-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 10:20:17PM +0200, Thomas Ramirez wrote: > The lluna thing looks interesting. I am programming something similar and it > would be cool if they would interoperate. Is it documented somewhere? JEP-0151. -- Groetjes, ralphm

Re: [jdev] Re: tls + plain sasl not working

2006-03-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:25:47PM -0300, Gaston Dombiak wrote: > Hey Norman, > > Wildfire implementation is based on > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sasl-plain-08.txt. My > understanding after reading " > The mechanism consists of a single message, a string of [UTF-8] > encod

Re: [jdev] tls + plain sasl not working

2006-03-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 04:43:16PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > BTW: the server should accept a blank auth stanza, and it should > respond with a blank challenge. This is a bug in the wildfire server. Why? We don't have to support solutions to deficiencies in other protocol profiles, do we? I

Re: [jdev] MySpace Messenger

2006-03-14 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:07:22PM +0100, Ralph Meijer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:54:24AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Anyone here know more about MySpace Messenger (now in beta)? I'd be

Re: [jdev] MySpace Messenger

2006-03-14 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:54:24AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anyone here know more about MySpace Messenger (now in beta)? I'd be > curious to know whether it's based on XMPP. :-) Apparently [1] it is based around Sonork [2]. [1] http://

Re: [jdev] Re: Recent Google Talk S2S Problems

2006-03-09 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:29:51AM +0100, Remko Troncon wrote: > >My friend who is using trillian says that the trillian log is > >complaining that isn't a valid top level stanza and > >drops it. Looks like a namespace issue of some sorts? Pandion doesn't > >seem to work too well e

Re: [jdev] SamePlace 0.2.9+0.3.0prealpha

2006-03-08 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Massimiliano Mirra wrote: > An alpha of SamePlace is online at http://www.sameplace.cc/alpha. > > SamePlace is a Jabber client for Firefox. Besides normal > operation, it allows the user to "enter" any web page as if it > were a room, and chat with other

Re: [jdev] SPPS and external components

2006-02-19 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > yep, this is undoubtably the best place to 'plug in' PEP > functionality. I'd imagine that if you made it a full c module, then > you'd get roster subscription status for free too. Probably, but then I can't reuse any idavoll cod

Re: [jdev] SPPS and external components

2006-02-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 07:01:05PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > On 2/18/06, Ralph Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 04:04:40PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > > > On 1/24/06, Jacek Konieczny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &g

Re: [jdev] SPPS and external components

2006-02-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 04:04:40PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > On 1/24/06, Jacek Konieczny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Things that need to be solved: > > > > 1. redirecting SPPS queries addressed to users to the external > > component. > > 2. providing the external component with roster inf

Re: [jdev] Server rules for handling subscriptions for non-existent users

2006-02-01 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 12:54:45PM +0530, Vinod Panicker wrote: > Hi, > > It seems that server behaviour for handling presence subscribe stanzas > to non-existent users is undefined in the RFC. IMO, it should be > silently dropped. RFC 3921 (XMPP IM), section 11.1, rule 2. > Also, what about ro

Re: [jdev] Re: googletalk

2006-01-30 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:12:11AM +1100, Trejkaz wrote: > On Monday 30 January 2006 21:10, Remko Troncon wrote: > > > I am sending the following message to a googletalk recipient over S2S: > > > > Is the recipient on your contact list, and vice versa ? > > Wouldn't that have been the wrong error

Re: Stream feature negotiation ordering. Was: Re: [jdev] S2S questions - from attribute and version support

2006-01-10 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 01:57:43PM +, Tony Finch wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Joe Hildebrand wrote: > > > > I want to note here that JEP-0138, Stream Compression, should be done > > > after TLS negotiation. The JEP does not mention that it should also go > > > before SASL but that seems fairl

Stream feature negotiation ordering. Was: Re: [jdev] S2S questions - from attribute and version support

2006-01-10 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 08:57:38AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> 12. If the TLS negotiation is successful, the initiating entity MUST > >> continue with SASL negotiation. > >> > >>So I infer from the above that any entity that would specify its > >>version to be 1.0 would have suppor

[jdev] IQ handling. Was: Directed presence + presence probe result

2005-11-23 Thread Ralph Meijer
> PS: Any thoughts on the multiple iq items error handling anyone? What do you mean? An iq may only have 1 child element. -- Groetjes, ralphm

[jdev] Re: [xmppwg] Incorrect SASL Digest MD5 example in XMPP Core

2005-11-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi, To expand on my previous mail [1], the problem is that, unlike XMPP, in IMAP's profile for SASL it is not possible to send additional data along with a servers' indication of successful authentication. This is covered by section 5.2 in RFC , copied here in full: 5.2. Server returns succe

Re: [jdev] Server closing connection early

2005-11-20 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 08:01:40PM +, Jabber X wrote: > I have started coding with Jabber but am having problems early on with what i > suspect in bad formatting in the Xml. > I send the initial xml to make the stream connection and then try to register > an account but the server closes the c

Re: [jdev] Re: Problem Connecting to GoogleTalk using my custom client

2005-10-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:39:05AM +0200, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 07:52:24AM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 October 2005 19:35, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > > > That doesn't matter. They offer service, not the software. If they > > > offered the software they could n

Re: [jdev] Re: Problem Connecting to GoogleTalk using my custom client

2005-10-25 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 12:07:00PM -0700, Gary Burd wrote: > The features stanza sent to the client says that client can either > start TLS or login using X-GOOGLE-TOKEN. Because X-GOOGLE-TOKEN is > not documented and subject to change, your only choice is to start TLS > by sending to the server.

[jdev] Incorrect SASL Digest MD5 example in XMPP Core

2005-10-24 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi all, While attempting to implement SASL authentication in Twisted, I discovered a discrepancy between RFC 2831 (Using Digest Authentication as a SASL Mechanism) and the examples 6.5 and 6.6 in RFC 3920 (XMPP Core) that do DIGEST-MD5 SASL authentication. The discrepancy is about Step 3 (section

Re: [jdev] component presence question

2005-10-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 11:18:12AM +0200, Ben Turner wrote: > [...] > > Is this the way components should act? I.e. must components know where > presence updates are to be sent? Component connections, in the sense of JEP-0114 (Jabber Component Protocol), are not managed by a session manager like

Re: [jdev] Re: proxy65 mktap fails

2005-10-07 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:38:14PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > now using CVS copy, and life is much happier. Only issue is now > trying to use a dns name for proxyip. I was just trying the CVS version for you and that doesn't seem to have any problems combined with Twisted current. In gener

Re: [jdev] Single host, multi service.

2005-09-28 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 11:43:23AM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: > >> Sometimes I think it would have been neat if nodes were part of JIDs in > >> the first place... then each service could have been a node off the > >> server's own JID, and everything would be happy. Well, maybe. > > > > For pubsub, JEP-

Re: [jdev] Single host, multi service.

2005-09-27 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 04:43:55PM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:47, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > > The problem I can see is that if you "disco" to a server, it will list all > > the MUC channels. Though I think this can be solved by using resources. > > Instead of pointing from examp

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-30 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 03:00:42PM -0700, Ralph Giles wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:39:33PM +0200, Ralph Meijer wrote: > [..] > > > Sure, you could use JEP-0050 for that, but that wasn't the complete > > problem of the other Ralph. He wanted to be able to cancel

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-30 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0700, Ralph Giles wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:12:09PM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: > > > The difficulty with that approach, of course, is that it can't possibly > > with > > with existing, standard IQ queries. I don't suppose we need some kind of > > > typ

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:21:39PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: > I think the point here, is that nothing stops you from writing an > AdHoc command that returns a list of currently executing commands, and > allows you to pick on, and cancel it. Sure, you could use JEP-0050 for that, but that was

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 07:29:32PM +0200, Jean-Louis Seguineau wrote: > Why not use the JEP-050 commands adapted to this case? Better than creating > a new IQ extension. Ok, how would that work? JEP-0050 provides no way to receive results to a command asynchrously, as far as I see. Example protoco

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:12:09PM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:31, Ralph Meijer wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 11:42:25AM -0700, Ralph Giles wrote: > > > I'd like to collect suggestions for "cancelling" an in-process iq > > > t

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 11:42:25AM -0700, Ralph Giles wrote: > I'd like to collect suggestions for "cancelling" an in-process iq > transaction. I would also go with a similar approach as yours. An for the transaction request and a with the results when the transaction is completed. The two then

Re: [jdev] Re: goole login

2005-08-26 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:16:11PM +0200, Alexander Gnauck wrote: > hi, > > > > > There should be "gmail.com" instead of "google.com". Check your JID, > > it should be "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > > ya this was the problem ;-(. Now it works ok and i get the correct > stream features. Hmm, that is odd

Re: [jdev] confusion over [EMAIL PROTECTED] JIDs and email addresses?

2005-07-27 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:30:12PM +0200, Mario Salzer wrote: > Consider for example a web page with textual content like follows: > >user: name >jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >popoflux: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just made my Jabber ID match my e-mail address, but

Re: [jdev] Re: JEP-114 - what is the "component name"?

2005-07-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:50:22PM -0300, Gaston Dombiak wrote: > Hey ralphm, > > My question was/is about the format of the TO attribute when sending the > opening stream:stream element. So is it valid to just include the subdomain > instead of the subdomain+hostname? There is no description of

Re: [jdev] Usefullness of JabberStudio ?

2005-07-22 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:03:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > [..] > > In my opinion, that's a mistake. JabberStudio is not very useful when > used like SourceForge, since it lacks many of the features needed by > complex projects. > > Another solution would be to keep JabberStudio as is (but

Re: [jdev] JEP-114 - what is the "component name"?

2005-07-21 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 03:23:30PM -0300, Gaston Dombiak wrote: > I've been reading again the JEP-114 (Jabber Component Protocol) since I > wanted to check the formal definition of what is called the "component > name". In the JEP I see that the example is using 'plays.shakespeare.lit'. > Since

Re: [jdev] RPC with Net::Jabber is broken?

2005-07-19 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:58:02PM +0200, Bart Matthaei wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:56:22PM +0200, Bart Matthaei wrote: > [snip] > > Hey Stefan, jij hier? ;) > > Argghh!! Reply-To: list = evil.. > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html And there are arguments for the reverse st

Re: [jdev] Re: Idavoll 2

2005-07-07 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:03:19PM -0400, Herman Li wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using the latest version of Idavoll2 and have a question about > meta-data. Is there a way to add or modify the meta-data? Currently when > I use disco#info on the node, it returns 3 pieces of data (leaf node, > persistent

Re: [jdev] Pubsub node namespaces

2005-06-29 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 04:06:06PM +1000, Steve Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently working with ejabberd for a possible pubsub application. > By default ejabberd places 'instant' user nodes in a path of > 'home//', and that namespace is free for the user to > create their own nodes under; creati

Re: [jdev] Resource binding question

2005-06-18 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 01:41:33PM +0530, Vinod Panicker wrote: > Hi, > > If there is a stream over which Resource Binding has successfully > happened, should the client be allowed to perform Resource Binding > again if it requests? > > This scenario is explicitly allowed in the case of Session >

Re: Jabber Virtual Presence (was RE: [jdev] Google Summer of Code)

2005-06-07 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 12:18:07PM +0200, Heiner Wolf wrote: > Hi > > >> * Virtual presence > > > >Heiner loves VP, but I haven't seen a lot of demand for it myself yet. > >;-) > > Some time ago I was asking if the JSF would be open to a move into the > virtual presence direction. I don't want to

Re: [jdev] my own xml in body tag

2005-05-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:51:58PM +0200, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:12:21 +0200, Julian Missig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >It is, however, against typical Jabber convention. It's legal XML, but > >it's not Jabber convention. Jabber convention is to use the ele

Re: [jdev] XMPP Certification Opinion Poll

2005-05-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 07:23:22PM +0100, Celso Martinho wrote: > What would you use for Avatars now ? JEP-0084 ? Won't scale. Please enlighten us with your thoughts on the standards-jig mailinglist. As far as I can see, you haven't contributed there, yet. Just throwing around these claims without

Re: [jdev] my own xml in body tag

2005-05-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 01:55:19PM +0200, Ulrich Staudinger wrote: > > >if I've well understood, this is the best way to do it. (even if I > >can't find the spec about the tag ;-) I have to search more... ) > > > Yes, any other tag may be transported inside the message tag, as long as > they ha

Re: [jdev] my own xml in body tag

2005-05-15 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 11:55:04AM +0200, Ulrich Staudinger wrote: > > > Jeremy Nickurak schrieb: > > >Why not just: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because per definition/the specs free form tags are only allowed inside > the X-tag. Not true! There is no need to call extension child elements

Re: [jdev] Detecting multiple resource connections

2005-04-27 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 01:08:19PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: > I would suggest to "JEP" a non destructive bind. That is, if the > resource is already in use, the bind would fail. > > But since a server can be hours with undetected failed connections, > perhaps a more sensible approach could be to

Re: [jdev] Re: Re: PubSub question

2005-04-21 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 11:54:46AM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote: > >>Ah yes true, what about an adaption of the bookmarks thing to list all of > >>the pubsub servers which you are subscribed to and then you can query > >>each > >>one for the items you are subscribed to on those servers, you can als

Re: [jdev] Re: PubSub question

2005-04-19 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:40:19PM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote: > >>Basically, you would do this the same way as other people. Do a disco > >>query > >>to your own bare JID, to retrieve the node. > > > >Doesn't this come back to your own client that you are currently logged in > >with ? > > No t

Re: [jdev] Idavoll 2

2005-04-13 Thread Ralph Meijer
NOTE! = Cross posting to standards-jig. Let's continue the discussion there. See below for my comments. On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:25:24AM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 09:26:56AM +0200, Ralph Meijer wrote: > > > While working on Idavoll last w

Re: [jdev] Changing delivery presence

2005-04-12 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:51:16AM +0200, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:57:45 +0200, Leonardo Galicia Jiménez > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[..] > > > >My question is, there is a way that i can do this or somenthing similar > >without affect the code jabber server?. There i

Re: [jdev] Idavoll 2

2005-04-12 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:11:48AM -0400, Herman Li wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone here have experience with Idavoll 2? I was trying to run the > "8.1.10 Get Items for a Node" use case from JEP-0060 and got a > "not-authorized" error. The user querying the node is the owner and > subscriber of th

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