Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-06-03 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Anyway, at the governance meeting we agreed to keep the Windows 10 support as Level 2 for now. Later we can move it to Level 1 if/when we have enough test coverage there. On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:11:33 PM UTC+2, James Nord wrote: > > I'm not sure it's just a technical issue. > > last I

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-06-03 Thread James Nord
I'm not sure it's just a technical issue. last I was working in this area there where licensing issues around running Windows 10 in VMs (when you run the windows Amis in Aws you also pay the license for the software, same for GCP Azure etc). Thus we would need to have our own licenses for all

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-06-01 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi Tim, Thanks for your feedback! One thing to mention is that we are not dropping support for x86, at least for the time being. Latest edition of the policy in https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/3295 says that it is "Level 3 - Patches considered". *Support may have limitations and

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-06-01 Thread Tim Van Holder
On Friday, 10 April 2020 14:26:51 UTC+2, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > Dear all, > > As you probably know, Jenkins core and some plugins contain native code, > and hence they rely on operating systems and platforms. In principle > Jenkins can run everywhere where you can run Java 8 or Java 11, but in

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-05-28 Thread Slide
It's possible we could test on a Windows 10 VM on Azure/AWS. I could look into that. On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:46 PM Mark Waite wrote: > +1 from me. I test Windows 10 more than I test any other Windows > version. I'm quite fine with it being Tier 1 or Tier 2. Either is fine > with me. > >

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-05-28 Thread Mark Waite
+1 from me. I test Windows 10 more than I test any other Windows version. I'm quite fine with it being Tier 1 or Tier 2. Either is fine with me. On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 1:14:55 PM UTC-6, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > The policy draft was approved at the last governance meeting. After it >

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-05-28 Thread Oleg Nenashev
The policy draft was approved at the last governance meeting. After it there were some changes in the plull request, mostly spelling ones. The only notable change is moving Windows 10 amd-64 support from Tier 1 to Tier 2, because we do not actually test it in our CICD flows. Tier 2 still means

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-05-19 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, I have submitted a pull request with a draft policy: https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/3295 . I will appreciate any feedback from those who is running Jenkins on Windows. Best regards, Oleg On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 3:02:04 PM UTC+2, Olblak wrote: > > I like Oleg

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-14 Thread Olblak
I like Oleg proposition very much as it clarifies the different levels of support, and it solves Daniel concerned. We won't run any tests on deprecated infrastructure like XP. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > Taking the feedback, should we introduce support levels like

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-14 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Taking the feedback, should we introduce support levels like we do with the browser support policy? * Level 1 - full support. We run automated testing for these platforms - amd64 versions of latest Windows and Windows Server versions, with the latest GA update pack (we will need to specify

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Daniel Beck
> On 10. Apr 2020, at 14:26, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > I know for sure that there are Jenkins users running on Windows XP That's no reason to enable this insanity. I would advocate for just going with what's generally supported by Microsoft: Extended support would be in, "throwing bags of

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, Thanks for the feedback! Please find some responses below Are you mis-matched in your pairing? Windows Server 2012 is in the Windows > 8 family. Windows Server 2008 is the 'mate' to Windows 7, isn't it? > Well, I do not mind to put Windows Server 2008 into the list. My assumption was

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Slide
> > > > does that mean we are testing Jenkins components (master and agent) on > all of the supported platforms? > > I suppose at this point we only really test on 2019, right? > > Yes, we currently only build and test on Windows Server 2019. To be fair though, we only really test Linux stuff on

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Jesse Glick
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:04 AM slide wrote: > does that mean we are testing Jenkins components (master and agent) on all of > the supported platforms? I suppose at this point we only really test on 2019, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread slide
Hi Oleg, I think this sounds completely reasonable. If we are supporting these versions, does that mean we are testing Jenkins components (master and agent) on all of the supported platforms? How do we determine that we are maintaining compatibility with those platforms? I assume these types

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Ben Castellucci
Are you mis-matched in your pairing? Windows Server 2012 is in the Windows 8 family. Windows Server 2008 is the 'mate' to Windows 7, isn't it? On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 8:48 AM Tim Jacomb wrote: > Sounds reasonable to me +1, > I speak as someone who barely ever touches Windows and never for Jenkins

Re: Proposal: Windows support policy for Jenkins

2020-04-10 Thread Tim Jacomb
Sounds reasonable to me +1, I speak as someone who barely ever touches Windows and never for Jenkins though Thanks Tim On Friday, 10 April 2020 13:26:51 UTC+1, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > Dear all, > > As you probably know, Jenkins core and some plugins contain native code, > and hence they rely