[Jmol-users] newbie question....load from script

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All -- I am *just *getting started with JMol, so I apologize if this is blatently obvious, but I've run into a bit of strange behavior with scripting the applet. Is there something particularly special about the load command? I am calling out to a script file to load several PDB files, but

Re: [Jmol-users] newbie question....load from script

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Stout
differentiate between double, single or back-tick quotes and doesn't nest them) Many, many thanks for these insights! -Tom On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: Thanks very much -- this is getting /more/ confusing! If I add set

[Jmol-users] script file names (again) and persistence?

2008-04-05 Thread Thomas Stout
I've been doing (more) development of a web page using jmol thank you again for all of the guidance of a couple weeks ago - it's been very helpful! I've run into two more oddities, which I am sure derive from my lack of in-depth knowledge. 1) Is there a limit to the length of a script file

[Jmol-users] Fwd: script file names (again) and persistence?

2008-04-06 Thread Thomas Stout
This seems to have gone into the bit bucket the first time I sent it -Tom -- Forwarded message -- From: Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:00 PM Subject: script file names (again) and persistence? To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net I've been doing

Re: [Jmol-users] Proteopedia: green links problem in Firefox

2008-04-07 Thread Thomas Stout
On my linux box (RHEL, WS 4) running Firefox 2.0.0.4/Java 1.6.0_01 (yes, old) all of the green links work just fine Also, 1) the front page is 1EVE with the correct view. 2) I avoid Windows when I can. 3A) all the green links work on randomly loaded structure pages BTW, the site is

Re: [Jmol-users] script file names (again) and persistence?

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas Stout
OK - thanks! -Tom On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: I've been doing (more) development of a web page using jmol thank you again for all of the guidance of a couple weeks ago - it's been very helpful! I've run into two more

Re: [Jmol-users] script file names (again) and persistence?

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas Stout
OK - thanks! -Tom On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: I've been doing (more) development of a web page using jmol thank you again for all of the guidance of a couple weeks ago - it's been very helpful! I've run into two more

Re: [Jmol-users] Thermal ellipsoid plots?

2008-04-15 Thread Thomas Stout
I too am very supportive of adding this functionality! For macromolecules however, I would like to comment though that the number of ultra-high-resolution (sub 1.0-1.4Angstrom) structures is continuing to increase rapidly. This is due to both better crystals and much more powerful synchrotron

Re: [Jmol-users] Thermal ellipsoid plots?

2008-04-15 Thread Thomas Stout
properly so that the unit cell parameters and reciprocal axes can be determined. Correct? Bob Thomas Stout wrote: I too am very supportive of adding this functionality! For macromolecules however, I would like to comment though that the number of ultra-high-resolution (sub 1.0-1.4Angstrom

[Jmol-users] interactive measurements mode -- Angles don't report?

2008-04-18 Thread Thomas Stout
Hmmm.is anyone else using interactive measurements? I've just added links to a web page to turn on and off the measurements mode (so that someone could interactively measure distances/angles/torsions of interest and then turn it off again). Distance and Torsions work just fine, but I find

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive measurements mode -- Angles don't report?

2008-04-19 Thread Thomas Stout
, Tom On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I think it's your links. The command is set pickingStyle MEASURE not set pickingStyle MEASURE ON Bob Thomas Stout wrote: Hmmm.is anyone else using interactive measurements? I've just added links

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive measurements mode -- Angles don't report?

2008-04-19 Thread Thomas Stout
, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think so. It is measuring angles from the measure reports. And when I try these commands they work great. Try those commands from the Jmol console; I'm guessing something is still wrong with your JavaScript. Thomas Stout

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive measurements mode -- Angles don't report?

2008-04-19 Thread Thomas Stout
measureCompleted: [3, 2097, 2100, 2099, 118.2 °] Script completed -Tom On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - thanks -- I've probably been distracted by the fact that the Distance and Torsion measurements are working fine that the Angle appears

Re: [Jmol-users] Odd result from cavity command??

2008-05-20 Thread Thomas Stout
Sorry to burst in on this thread, but I found it interesting and then the specification caught my eye: what does cavity3 mean? I don't find that in the documentation for the isosurface command ( http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/?ver=11.6#isosurface). According to this, cavity should take

Re: [Jmol-users] Odd result from cavity command??

2008-05-20 Thread Thomas Stout
// On May 20, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Thomas Stout wrote: Sorry to burst in on this thread, but I found it interesting and then the specification caught my eye: what does cavity3 mean? I don't find that in the documentation for the isosurface command ( http

[Jmol-users] testing the active selection for size...

2008-07-14 Thread Thomas Stout
Is there a way that I'm not seeing (I'm sure there must be) to test the size (in number of atoms) of the current selection? I've tried: select ligand; natoms = selected.size; This sets natoms to 0, while: select {:Z}; natoms = {:Z}.size; sets natoms to the proper atomcount of chain Z. center

Re: [Jmol-users] testing the active selection for size...

2008-07-15 Thread Thomas Stout
well, what do you know.yes, that works. sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. Thanks! -Tom On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, without testing it, but following literally your message, I'd say you should try natoms = {selected}.size;

[Jmol-users] version 11.5.49 ... is max broken?

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi everyone -- I have a script that iterates over a range of residues that is defined by choosing the min and max residue numbers. When testing out version 11.5.49 in order to take advantage of some of the great new additions, I find that the line in my script with max is throwing

Re: [Jmol-users] version 11.5.49 ... is max broken?

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Stout
Thanks for the quick fix Bob! I'll try it out as soon as I can get the new files... -Tom On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. ARGH! I know exactly what I did Thanks for spotting that. I will have an update available later this evening. Bob Thomas

Re: [Jmol-users] version 11.5.49 ... is max broken?

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Stout
max is working just fine again. Many thanks, again! -Tom On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they are available now. http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/ Thomas Stout wrote: Thanks for the quick fix Bob! I'll try it out as soon as I

Re: [Jmol-users] RFC - new look for toolbar

2008-07-26 Thread Thomas Stout
Here's something like what I meant that I found on Google SketchUp (attached shapes.gif) -Tom On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice. I especially like the new version of the rotate button -- it's more indicative of 3-d rotation. I'm of mixed

Re: [Jmol-users] RFC - new look for toolbar

2008-07-28 Thread Thomas Stout
Oh, those are very good! I quite like that set Kalzium is a periodic table viewer, so perhaps not that confusing? On the idea of adding a J to the kalzium icon, perhaps it could be the J from the Java logo? -Tom On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Jmol-users] JMol from javascript from Flash ?

2008-07-29 Thread Thomas Stout
Well, we have deployed an internal web page that feeds data to Jmol applets from a Flex app*, which is rendered to HTML as a Flash movie, so I think the answer to your question is yes, although we have not attempted to embed Jmol within the Flash component itself. -Tom * It reads our

Re: [Jmol-users] RFC - new look for toolbar

2008-07-29 Thread Thomas Stout
:-) On 28 Jul 2008 at 13:54, Thomas Stout wrote: Oh, those are very good! I quite like that set Kalzium is a periodic table viewer, so perhaps not that confusing? On the idea of adding a J to the kalzium icon, perhaps it could be the J from the Java logo? Not from Java, but from

[Jmol-users] extracting chain ID's into an array?

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All -- Well, I've stumbled over this long enough I need to ask for help! I have a case where I want to step through the chains of a selection (many PDB files have more than one identical protein-ligand complex per crystallographic asymmetric unit and use the identical atom names and residue

Re: [Jmol-users] extracting chain ID's into an array?

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Stout
responding. It's quite odd: the console still works. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: Hi All -- Well, I've stumbled over this long enough I need to ask for help! I have a case where I want to step through the chains

Re: [Jmol-users] selections with more than one variable?

2008-08-05 Thread Thomas Stout
for me I think I don't entirely understand the use of parentheses () and brackets {} .(when needed, when not) Many, many thanks for your continued willingness to help! -Tom On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: Has anyone ever made

[Jmol-users] Java exception in 11.5.51 that wasn't present in 11.5.37....

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Stout
When running Jmol 11.5.37, the following script (color_models.spt) works fine: n_models = getProperty(modelInfo,modelCount); clist=array(green,palevioletred,lightblue,coral,yellow,cyan,\ dodgerblue,aqua,salmon,greenyellow,lavender,\

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception in 11.5.51 that wasn't present in 11.5.37....

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Stout
/08, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure I found that and fixed it last week. Please try 11.6.RC2 Thomas Stout wrote: When running Jmol 11.5.37, the following script (color_models.spt) works fine: n_models = getProperty(modelInfo,modelCount); clist=array(green

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception in 11.5.51 that wasn't present in 11.5.37....

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas Stout
Terrific - looking forward to it! Thanks Bob, Tom On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it. That's fixed for 11.6RC4 Thomas Stout wrote: Hi Bob -- It looks like 11.6RC2 behaves the same way. I had bigger problems with 11.6RC3, so I can't

Re: [Jmol-users] Java exception in 11.5.51 that wasn't present in 11.5.37....

2008-08-11 Thread Thomas Stout
) at sun.plugin.com.DispatchImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) On 8/10/08, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terrific - looking forward to it! Thanks Bob, Tom On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it. That's fixed for 11.6RC4 Thomas Stout wrote: Hi Bob -- It looks like

[Jmol-users] a question about zoom

2008-08-19 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All -- I've been mucking about with zoom today and wondered this: is it expected behavior that the 100% level for zoom should be held constant for a loaded model? What I mean is this: when a structure is loaded, the 100% level is calculated by Jmol to be the factor at which all atoms are

[Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Stout
It's odd that the question about syncing with pop-up applet windows came up today just as I noticed the following: with the applet (version 11.6RC7) creating pop-up windows with the contents of an applet in a web page works just fine, but when re-sizing that pop-up window, the structure

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Stout
bar) -- is there a means of specifying the size of the *popup* window and not allowing it to be resized once created?? -Tom On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thomas Stout wrote: It's odd that the question about syncing with pop-up applet windows came up

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Stout
the model? Please check for Java console errors. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's odd that the question about syncing with pop-up applet windows came up today just as I noticed the following: with the applet (version 11.6RC7) creating pop-up

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Stout
, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes, the display fails just on re-sizing the window (no model manipulation). Without re-sizing the window, one can manipulate the model and do anything one wishes with Jmol with complete stability. Curiously, the popup window

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-20 Thread Thomas Stout
, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-3 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at org.jmol.g3d.Platform3D.allocateTBuffers(Platform3D.java:89) I see this behavior on both both WinXP and linux (CentOS) and both a pretty hefty machines (graphics

[Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-25 Thread Thomas Stout
Interesting. I have found today that set antialiasDisplay ON forces scaling of images even when set fontscaling false is set. Expected or no? I was surprised it took me a while to narrow it down to this one setting -Tom Here are some commands for testing: set antialiasDisplay ON;

Re: [Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-26 Thread Thomas Stout
created after its invocation. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Interesting. I have found today that set antialiasDisplay ON forces scaling of images even when set fontscaling false is set. Expected or no? I was surprised it took me a while

Re: [Jmol-users] unexpected image scaling

2008-08-27 Thread Thomas Stout
true; set antialiasImages true; end function; _setState; On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, absolutely you must use the latest version if you are using any RC at all. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have

Re: [Jmol-users] a related popup window question....

2008-08-29 Thread Thomas Stout
Thanks Angel -- Yes, it definitely turned out to be a memory issue. My inexperience is another! I was stumped since the Jmol graphic stopped responding, but Jmol itself was still running and doing stuff -- I could still enter commands into the console and get appropriate responses. Now I know

[Jmol-users] stereo doesn't propagate?

2008-09-01 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All --- I was just working on adding a toggle stereo button to my web page driving the Jmol 11.6RC10 applet (separate issue...possible?), when I noticed that the status of stereo doesn't seem to propagate to a new pop-up applet window. I've reproduced this on Bob Hanson's new page:

Re: [Jmol-users] New browser Chrome from Google

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Stout
I do not have an iPhone, but have seen Molecules in action. It certainly looks like an implementation of RASMOL to me. It's pretty buggy though too...bonds don't display properly... But the performance is, indeed, impressive -Tom On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Rzepa, Henry [EMAIL

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-15 Thread Thomas Stout
Wow!:) -Tom On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are almost there! I think I made some work for the translators, but in general we have an amazing signed applet. Here's the scoop: Basically the signed applet and the application now allow you to

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive scripting docs

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas Stout
I sure hope that we have all missed something: I never realized how often I use those pages every single day, until they were suddenly gone! Does anyone have a copy anywhere? -Tom On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Frieda Reichsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I have not seen a response

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive scripting docs

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas Stout
can! -Tom On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I sure hope that we have all missed something: I never realized how often I use those pages every single day, until they were suddenly gone! Does anyone have a copy anywhere? -Tom On Tue, Sep 16, 2008

Re: [Jmol-users] how to echo a javascript variable?

2008-09-22 Thread Thomas Stout
Actually, on re-reading this: I see that I made a typo. What I've been trying is actually: jmolScript(echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]); but Jmol is echoing that literally @variable and not the contents of that variable. Thanks, Tom On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote

Re: [Jmol-users] how to echo a javascript variable?

2008-09-22 Thread Thomas Stout
Thanks Angel -- I have, but Jmol merely echos null or newline or something to the screen. I know it's echoing *something* because it paints over text that is there from an earlier echoif I give a javascript level alert then I get the proper text in the pop-up window, but it's not going to

[Jmol-users] JS code snippet to display PDB TITLE information in Jmol Applet

2008-09-22 Thread Thomas Stout
Here, then -- with my thanks for all the help -- is a working method to pull the TITLE lines from a PDB file and echo it to the bottom of the Jmol Applet window: var headerInfo = jmolGetPropertyAsString(fileHeader); var cutUp = headerInfo.split(\n);

Re: [Jmol-users] JS code snippet to display PDB TITLE information in Jmol Applet

2008-09-22 Thread Thomas Stout
Good suggestion..done! http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Recycling_Corner#Echoing_PDB_.22Title.22_to_the_Applet_window On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Sep 2008 at 13:50, Thomas Stout wrote: Here, then -- with my thanks for all the help

Re: [Jmol-users] JS code snippet to display PDB TITLE information in Jmol Applet

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas Stout
().find(TITLE).split() for (var i = 1; i = titleLines.size;i = i + 1) titleLines[i] = (titleLines[i])[11][0].trim() end for return titleLines.join(|) end function set echo bottom left echo @{getheader()} Something like that Bob On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Thomas

Re: [Jmol-users] JS code snippet to display PDB TITLE information in Jmol Applet

2008-09-23 Thread Thomas Stout
are required to differentiate taking the last line of lines 3-11: (titleLines[3][11])[0] and taking the 11th through the last character of line 3: (titleLines[3])[11][0] which is what we want here. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It looks to me

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-24 Thread Thomas Stout
for what it's worth: I have never seen that using FF 3 on WinXP or linux ... I don't have a modern Mac, so have not been running Jmol there... -Tom On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM, rob yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Final testing appreciated for Jmol

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-24 Thread Thomas Stout
it. The release files are fine. Bob On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: One oddity that I've just noticed: I downloaded 11.6.RC16 (several times in the last 24 hours) and find that if I run the stand alone or load the signed applet, they report version 11.6.RC16

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-09-25 Thread Thomas Stout
the signed Applet now -Tom PS - No, I did NOT clear the java cache -- I have no idea how to do that under linux!! On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El 24 Sep 2008 a las 17:35, Thomas Stout escribió: Oh, I restarted everything - including the computer

Re: [Jmol-users] jmol demo on sourceforge

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas Stout
One thought about the wiki not loading: I have the same problem for any link to the wiki that uses the port number. For example: http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Solving_Java_Problems#Java_cache will never load for me due to the :81 and our local firewall denying access. If I cut-and-paste the

Re: [Jmol-users] final testing appreciated

2008-10-04 Thread Thomas Stout
Great! Thanks very much -- that's very useful. -Tom (google is amazing!) On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Angel Herraez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just found this (well, not me, Google of course): Clearing Java cache on Linux, Mac, Windows:

Re: [Jmol-users] drawing polylines

2008-10-04 Thread Thomas Stout
Does it need to be a single object? Could you: draw myIDa {point1}{point2} draw myIDb {point2}{point3} etc? -Tom On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Angel Herráez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can draw a line using draw myID {point} {point} and, if I want more than 3 nodes,

Re: [Jmol-users] jmol movie

2008-10-04 Thread Thomas Stout
I could play it just fine (only tried VLC media player - the swiss army knife of video players) and the resolution is fine. However, I found the frame rate to be much too fast to be sensible - atoms were flying around faster than I could discern! When you encode in VideoMach, can you set a

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Stout
I am not knowledgeable about the algorithms that are out there (perhaps someone like Warren DeLano and others might chime in), but I'd like to throw in my 2 cents (currently approaching the true value of my opinion with the state of the US dollar!). I'd rather see Jmol do *something *in this

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Stout
clouds, etc) Yes/No? -Tom On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The basic premise was: if two appropriate heteroatoms are spatially located within a set range of separations (1.8-3.4A

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Stout
I'd have to go dig in the literature for a referenceit's just my personal guideline(s). I'll see what I can find -- most of that literature is pretty old -Tom On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly. Is that documented or discussed somewhere

Re: [Jmol-users] Protein Hydrogen Bonds again

2008-11-05 Thread Thomas Stout
bonds. If you need more, then it's just a matter of defining what angle requirements one might want. Bob On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Thomas Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It looks nice! -- is the angle adjustable? I tried setting it to other values (even extreme values) and didn't see

Re: [Jmol-users] good idea?

2009-02-06 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi Bob -- I think this is pretty slick especially nice for hard-core users (those who are using the command language and needing to type), but I also think that it would be distracting for casual users So, I would vote for making it off by default and leaving it to the knowledgeable user(s)

Re: [Jmol-users] Select and search residues in JMol ?

2009-04-02 Thread Thomas Stout
As more of an implementor and end-user than a developer I would agree that yes, this would be strongly welcomed! CCSDs ReLiBase does this, but again that is far from user friendly or open source (and ReLiBase+ is exorbitantly priced) Good luck, Tom On Apr 2, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Chris

Re: [Jmol-users] frozen Jmol Applet on hBonds calculation

2009-05-11 Thread Thomas Stout
AFAIK OT/OT1/OT2 are no longer standard but are still freqently generated by legacy software (XPLOR comes to mind as a primary source of OTs versus O/OXT). So, you shouldn't be finding any in the PDB, but you're still apt to run into them in local .pdb files... -Tom On May 11, 2009, at

Re: [Jmol-users] Changing the shape of the applet

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas Stout
It'd be neat if it could be tied to the size of the bounding box of the loading molecule... -Tom On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Greeves, Nick ngree...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: While displaying polymer chains, we have been wondering if it is possible to change the shape and size of the

Re: [Jmol-users] jmol and Open Office

2009-08-17 Thread Thomas Stout
The only equivalent that I am aware of is an implementation of PyMOL called AxPyMOL that allows one to embed a PyMOL session file within M$ PowerPoint. While freeware, AxPYMOL uses ActiveX, so it is constrained to M$ Windows. All those caveats aside, it does work and is pretty nice to have a 3D

Re: [Jmol-users] Record animation option within Jmol

2009-10-01 Thread Thomas Stout
PyMOL has incorporated ffmpeg into it for doing just this (FreeMOL) -- Perhaps Warren DeLano could offer some advice on this? Even if a third-party freeware were not bundled directly into Jmol, I think that a built-in script to record the frames as JPGs or PNGs and then run them through ffmpeg

Re: [Jmol-users] Remove Jmol Watermark

2009-10-19 Thread Thomas Stout
How about the facebook style effect, where a drop-down menu selector appears when one mouses-over the frank/logo? -Tom On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Jeff Hansen jhan...@depauw.edu wrote: Angel, I agree with you. I like to use the same background color for my Jmol applets too. To me

[Jmol-users] Warren DeLano, author of PyMOL

2009-11-05 Thread Thomas Stout
I am sorry to pass along this rather shocking news regarding Warren: Dear CCP4 Community: I write today with very sad news about Dr. Warren Lyford DeLano. I was informed by his family today that Warren suddenly passed away at home on Tuesday morning, November 3rd. While at Yale, Warren made

Re: [Jmol-users] Warren DeLano, author of PyMOL

2009-11-05 Thread Thomas Stout
PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: I am sorry to pass along this rather shocking news regarding Warren: Dear CCP4 Community: I write today with very sad news about Dr. Warren Lyford DeLano. I was informed by his family today that Warren suddenly passed away at home on Tuesday

Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated

2009-11-18 Thread Thomas Stout
This is great -- really lovely! (When is Jmol coming to the iPhone?!) :) One oddity that I noticed: when I induce a rotation via a swipe, it continues (as expected) until my screensaver comes on --- when the display is re-awakened, the display is static. Not an issue, as far as I am

[Jmol-users] two minor-ish oddities in Jmol 11.9.10

2009-12-14 Thread Thomas Stout
I believe that I have just stumbled into either an oversight, a bug or -- most likely -- my not keeping up with version changes... Anyway, I recently decided that it was time to consider upgrading a (private) site that I maintain from Jmol version 11.6RC16 (signed) to the current version. I

Re: [Jmol-users] two minor-ish oddities in Jmol 11.9.10

2009-12-14 Thread Thomas Stout
they're looking at and locating themselves in space -- this is a fantastic feature. I also think it makes Jmol look really polished Thanks Bob! -Tom On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst

[Jmol-users] oops - one more to add!

2009-12-15 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi again -- The combination of zshade translucent surfaces is working great in 11.9.11 -- thanks Bob! I've just stumbled into one more oddity: after putting the display into side-by-side stereo, the entire right-hand panel becomes the right-most few-percent space for zooming. That may well be

Re: [Jmol-users] oops - one more to add!

2009-12-15 Thread Thomas Stout
PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: OH, funny! OK On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: Hi again -- The combination of zshade translucent surfaces is working great in 11.9.11 -- thanks Bob! I've just stumbled into one more oddity: after

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Thomas Stout
While the plotting functionality may not be directly molecular-centric, I don't see how it detracts from Jmol. If the program were to become bloat-ware then yes, of course, that's a problem. For the moment it seems to be constrained within the bounds of scientific functionalities that many of us

[Jmol-users] syntax aware editors?

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All -- I am currently trying to re-work an old, rather long script and continually getting lost in if/else/endif loops -- Are there any language aware editors/IDEs out there that you recommend for jmolscript/javascript? I tend to just use vi on a linux box, but could move to a WinOS

Re: [Jmol-users] syntax aware editors?

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas Stout
is going to help with JavaScript. Although if you go to the standard JavaScript syntax: if (..) { ... } else { } Jmol now supports that. And it's possible that some IDE will at least tell you where your braces are unmatched. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Thomas Stout

[Jmol-users] a silly mistake?

2009-12-22 Thread Thomas Stout
I'm hoping fresh eyes can spot my trouble here. I have a loop that cycles through a series of specific residues and selects out the one with the largest number of atoms. Under prior versions of Jmol (11.6.RC16), I could get away with the following syntax: if {(resno=bigres)}.size 6 I'm

Re: [Jmol-users] a silly mistake?

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Stout
$ if ({resno bigres}.size 3) {print {resno bigres}.size} 45 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: I'm hoping fresh eyes can spot my trouble here. I have a loop that cycles through a series of specific residues and selects out the one with the largest number

[Jmol-users] zshade expected behavior?

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi again -- One more observation for the is that the way it's supposed to work? file I've found in Jmol 11.9.11 that set zshade on doesn't actually apply until *after* there are coordinates loaded. If I bring up the applet apply my standard settings (I have an initialization script) and

Re: [Jmol-users] zshade expected behavior?

2009-12-23 Thread Thomas Stout
, zoom, and orientation are all reset upon file loading. You can set a defaultLoadScript to run if you want to do this sort of thing automatically. Bob On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: Hi again -- One more observation for the is that the way it's

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol cannot invert matrix 3IRJ

2009-12-25 Thread Thomas Stout
That's an NMR structure so does not have a unit cell. Makes one wonder if it/they should have a CRYST1 card at all! -Tom Sent from a tiny virtual keyboard. On Dec 24, 2009, at 11:27 PM, jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote: Jmol (11.5.35 and 11.8.9) can't open PDB 3irj, reporting this

Re: [Jmol-users] GUI javascript color picker widget for Jmol, please look at and vote on inclusion in Jmol.js...

2010-01-04 Thread Thomas Stout
...@uwosh.edu wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 2:55 PM, jmol-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:55:50 -0800 From: Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] GUI javascript color picker widget for Jmol, please look at and vote on inclusion

Re: [Jmol-users] Electron density maps

2010-01-13 Thread Thomas Stout
Very exciting! This would be of enormous value (at least to me the protein crystallography community). I should think the PDB Proteopedia would be quite interested as well... -Tom On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Eric Martz martze...@yahoo.com wrote: I am again making an effort to render

Re: [Jmol-users] Electron density maps

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Stout
, Proteopedia will be very interested when we succeed! -Eric At 1/13/10, Thomas Stout wrote: Very exciting! This would be of enormous value (at least to me the protein crystallography community). I should think the PDB Proteopedia would be quite interested as well... -Tom On Wed, Jan 13

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Stout
Thank you for that detailed explanation of quaternions, Bob! This is the first time I've actually been able to picture how to utilize them in a general way. (guess I just needed a different explanation) -Tom On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: Otis,

Re: [Jmol-users] Configuration Inversion

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Stout
;\ Cool, huh? :) Bob On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you for that detailed explanation of quaternions, Bob! This is the first time I've actually been able to picture how to utilize them in a general way. (guess I just needed

[Jmol-users] auto-orientation?

2010-02-12 Thread Thomas Stout
Hi All -- Before I embark on re-inventing yet another wheel, I thought I would ask: has anyone already created a script for choosing an optimal orientation in which to display a given molecule? I am thinking in terms of minimizing the overlap of atoms along the vector of view (z axis), i.e., the

Re: [Jmol-users] auto-orientation?

2010-02-16 Thread Thomas Stout
not tested it on molecules such as intermetallics or NaCl, but don't expect any difference. Cheers, Tom On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Rolf Huehne rhue...@fli-leibniz.de wrote: Thomas Stout schrieb: Hi All -- Before I embark on re-inventing yet another wheel, I thought I would ask: has

Re: [Jmol-users] auto-orientation?

2010-02-16 Thread Thomas Stout
selection, should the user wish to focus on a different selection of atoms -Tom On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Rolf Huehne rhue...@fli-leibniz.de wrote: r...@ellerbach.com schrieb: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:04:32 -0800, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.com wrote: To follow up on my

Re: [Jmol-users] Problem w/ electron dens. maps

2010-02-19 Thread Thomas Stout
But electron density maps can be on arbitrary scales, so the value 1.0 may very well be meaningless (except in the particular case where normalization has made 1.0=1e-/A**3), and will certainly produce wildly different results from dataset to dataset depending on the provenance of each particular

[Jmol-users] distinguishing two (small) molecules in an asymmetric unit

2010-02-19 Thread Thomas Stout
Is there a convenient way of distinguishing molecules when there is more than one in the asymmetric unit? In this case, I am not referring to macromolecules or PDB files, which have the handy chain ID, but rather small organic molecules loaded from cif files. I'm looking to (automatically)

Re: [Jmol-users] distinguishing two (small) molecules in an asymmetric unit

2010-02-19 Thread Thomas Stout
Thanks Angel -- I thought that might do the trick, but perhaps I am implementing it wrong. I thought this might work: measure RANGE 1.8 3.2 (within molecule) (not within molecule); but that generates neither measurements nor errors. I think the symmetry part here is a red-herring. Attached is

Re: [Jmol-users] Problem w/ electron dens. maps

2010-02-22 Thread Thomas Stout
that was the best ad hoc visual fit to what I was seeing in the electron microscopy literature. So I'm wondering now if different fields have different standards. Bob On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: I will try and track down the actual algorithm used - CCP4

Re: [Jmol-users] selecting a residue using only an atomno that is part of it

2010-02-22 Thread Thomas Stout
And just to clarify my understanding: there is no concept of GROUP for non-PDB/mmCIF files, correct? I am currently battling a similar logic problem I think what I need to do is write my own group(index) variable to count up the number of discrete molecules in a coordinate file. So, for

Re: [Jmol-users] distinguishing two (small) molecules in an asymmetric unit

2010-02-22 Thread Thomas Stout
OOPS - just found this in my Drafts folder from last week --- Thanks Angel - that was certainly one of my problems! I now realize that I need a slightly more complicated approach. For the general case of N molecules in the asymmetric unit, is there a

Re: [Jmol-users] distinguishing two (small) molecules in an asymmetric unit

2010-02-22 Thread Thomas Stout
++ ) { x = {molecule=i} print molecule + i + is + x } On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Thomas Stout thomasjst...@gmail.comwrote: OOPS - just found this in my Drafts folder from last week --- Thanks Angel - that was certainly one of my problems! I

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