Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) (Jeff Ratliff)

2008-06-25 Thread Tom Halligan
gt; They fail miserably because mixing desks were not meant for mouse >>>>> manipulation. >>>>> >>>>> The prime example of this is the rotating dial because it is really >>>>> easy >>>>> to control with your fingers when

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) (Jeff Ratliff)

2008-06-25 Thread Laszlo Pandy
> To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org <mailto:jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:33:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) Sorry, don't think I sent this to the list: The volume slid

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) (Jeff Ratliff)

2008-06-25 Thread Tom Halligan
gt; the slider's 'groove' (Or whatever you want to call it) does become >> >> shaded to the left of the slider handle, which does suggest some kind >> >> of >> >> 'increase' as we move towards the right, rather than just a left vs >> >&

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) (Jeff Ratliff)

2008-06-25 Thread Tom Halligan
gt;> be compromised. >> >> Tom >> >> From: "Jeff Ratliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org >> <mailto:jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org> >> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:33:07 -

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519) (Jeff Ratliff)

2008-06-24 Thread Laszlo Pandy
sue, although this obviously means something else would have to be compromised. Tom From: "Jeff Ratliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org <mailto:jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:3

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Laszlo Pandy
Jeff Ratliff wrote: On 24/06/2008, Laszlo Pandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately reimplementing popup windows in Python using the current version of GTK is not an option. Ahh... No problem. We just reimplement Jokosher in C!! I'll get started when I get home! :) Okay I took a look a

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Jeff Ratliff
On 24/06/2008, Laszlo Pandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately reimplementing popup windows in Python using the current > version of GTK is not an option. Ahh... No problem. We just reimplement Jokosher in C!! I'll get started when I get home! :)

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Laszlo Pandy
Unfortunately reimplementing popup windows in Python using the current version of GTK is not an option. When you click the button in Totem, it creates a popup window which does an X-pointer grab on the mouse. This means all mouse events will be redirected to the popup window, even if the mou

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Jeff Ratliff
Maybe you click it, a volume slider pops up, with a little icon for "mute" at the bottom of the slider. I've seen this in other applications. Seems like it would be pretty intuitive and useful. On 24/06/2008, Laszlo Pandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is interesting that you mention putting a

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Laszlo Pandy
It is interesting that you mention putting a popup inside the mute button as _less_ discoverable. Because I remember hearing from a few users who saw the speaker icon and assumed it was a volume control, only to be surprised when it was just mute. I'm not sure if we can put both volume and m

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-24 Thread Jeff Ratliff
Sorry, don't think I sent this to the list: The volume slider in this position makes the think of a pan control, not a volume control. This comes from my experience with physical sound boards though, and a novice may not have this problem. You could do a volume icon that pops up a volume slider,

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-23 Thread Laszlo Pandy
IMO shrinking the instrument is exactly the same as increasing the size of the event because it is all relative. Currently we have 77px height for the event, but this is entirely arbitrary. Also I think the popup volume widget that totem uses would be good for saving space. This widget is no

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-23 Thread Tom Halligan
Well, I guess the most obvious alternative is to just place the volume slider above the buttons, but again this still adds space. One solution would be to shrink the instrument image so that the overall space is identical to the space taken up before the volume slider was included, but I imagine th

Re: [jokosher-devel] [PATCH] InstrumentViewer volume slider patch (SVN Rev. 1519)

2008-06-22 Thread Laszlo Pandy
Thanks for the patch Tom. This is really well done, and I think it serves a good purpose because currently the volume control is not as discoverable as it could be. However right now the volume slider is underneath the buttons, which looks a little weird. Previously the buttons were at the bot