Re: [jug-discussion] OT -- SaveXP.com

2008-05-09 Thread Art Gramlich
To me, 6 seems kind of blah. 7 looks like it will be interesting. Art Gramlich Chief Application Architect HealthTrio, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 9, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: 6 is available now (and has been for the past few months as a beta). I really don't understand what

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-19 Thread Art Gramlich
Yup. That's it. On Jun 19, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Chad Woolley wrote: On 6/19/07, Art Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it (and if you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates to the system). I think you mean

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-19 Thread Art Gramlich
: On 6/19/07, Art Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it (and if you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates to the system). I think you mean this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5830318882717959520 It's

Re: [jug-discussion] build tools...

2006-12-26 Thread Art Gramlich
Where's Hatcher to plug ant? :-) For us, ant has worked well and pretty much stayed out of the way (like a build tool should). Additionally, because of the widespread use, almost every tool has an ant task (e.g. sablecc). It looks like there are several scripting tasks now available for the

Re: [jug-discussion] open laslo

2006-11-10 Thread Art Gramlich
Actually, I'd say sun is endoring jruby more since they have hired the two main developers to work on it. Kinda funny since Groovy seems like a better java integration choice. Now if they would just fix the major bugs and get a 1.0 out. On Nov 9, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:

Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
Sorry Mr. Zeidner, informal developer-related commentary is indeed inappropriate content for a USERS GROUP. In fact, I have seen on this list that at certain JUG meetings, discussion on non-Java technologies have been discussed. Everyone needs to get back to working on corporate project #101

[jug-discussion] Strongtalk

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
Did anyone else see that Sun did a new BSD style license release of all of Strongtalk earlier in the month? It's windows only right now and really not complete (development stopped when Sun bought the team to do HotSpot). In case anyone is interested, it's at http://strongtalk.org/ and

Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
Thanks for a sane reply. On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Michael Oliver wrote: Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by some, let's get serious. Call it govern themselves or sensorship or standards or regulations, etc. but the problem with that is who decides? If a discussion

Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
We're calling it Society 3.0 now. On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:19 PM, josh zeidner wrote: --- Michael Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by some, let's get serious. Call it govern themselves or sensorship or standards or regulations, etc. but the

Re: [jug-discussion] Tim, just curious, who 'owns' a thread?

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
Is this a troll? On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:32 PM, josh zeidner wrote: --- Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh -- if you are sincere about starting a discussion on the topic of JCP and JUG Goverance, then by all means walk your own talk and start a new thread with a relevant

Re: [jug-discussion] Tim, just curious, who 'owns' a thread?

2006-09-21 Thread Art Gramlich
Hitler. Can it please stop now. On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:13 PM, josh zeidner wrote: Great, all this discussion needs is a reference to Hitler and my life will be complete. Good times people, time to get some work done. jmz --- Art Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a troll

Re: [jug-discussion] Mac check

2006-09-20 Thread Art Gramlich
You know I'm an updater (well will be once I get more money saved again). Right now I've got the dual G5 and a core duo imac. I did get rid of the G4 800 since it really was getting a little too slow for my use. In my experience the intels hold up to or beat the ppc machines (my imac

Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-28 Thread Art Gramlich
thought they were using derby now and not hsqldb? On Jul 28, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote: Jumping into this conversation. a little late, but... :) I'm not sure how much detail, etc. you need, but open office v2 includes Openoffice Base, which is an MS Access-ish program. I

Re: [jug-discussion] os x users/programmers in tucson?

2005-06-16 Thread Art Gramlich
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RE: [jug-discussion] SWT ... the scoop?

2002-11-12 Thread Art Gramlich
-Original Message- From: Matt Sponer [mailto:matt.sponer;healthtrio.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] SWT ... the scoop? Whoa, awesome. Thanks for posting that. I've been curious for a long time why Swing is so

RE: [jug-discussion] Help needed with trivial Java - VB6 and/or VB.NET rewrite

2002-11-06 Thread Art Gramlich
I'd do a c# version :) -Original Message- From: William H. Mitchell [mailto:whm;mse.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [jug-discussion] Help needed with trivial Java - VB6 and/or VB.NET rewrite I'm teaching a class on object-oriented

RE: [jug-discussion] J2EE vs. .Net: Lies, Damn Lies and Benchmarks

2002-10-31 Thread Art Gramlich
Actually, my own testing shows that for many, many things they are right about equal on the same machine (.net usually having a slight prerformance advantage). Any decision should probably come down to other issues. -Original Message- From: Rick Hightower

RE: [jug-discussion] jdk 1.4 on OS X

2002-10-28 Thread Art Gramlich
Thanks Warner! -Original Message- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [jug-discussion] jdk 1.4 on OS X For those of you who have been waiting to get into OS X due to the JDK issue, it is now

RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Art Gramlich
The think with macs is that just after you buy one they will release something better :-). As long as the one you get works for what you need, it's not really a problem. Right Jon? -Original Message- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002

RE: [jug-discussion] Eclipse Tips and Tricks

2002-09-11 Thread Art Gramlich
Ctrl-1 Smart fixing (when something has a red underline is pretty cools too. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [jug-discussion] eclipse and web app deployment

2002-07-22 Thread Art Gramlich
Easie works well. Lomboz has a lot of buzz. -Original Message- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] eclipse and web app deployment I guess the main question is, 'Has anyone used

RE: [jug-discussion] Eclipse Stupidity Continues!

2002-07-18 Thread Art Gramlich
Actually around here the opinions are about 50/50 on which is better. IntelliJ seems to do nice refactoring and is very speedy for a swing application. On the other hand, Eclipse is really starting to get there now. Some of the plug-ins are really amazing. I'd say that by the end of the year,

[jug-discussion] Eclipse - was RE: [jug-discussion] Second time a charm

2002-06-25 Thread Art Gramlich
Simon, Good call on http://sourceforge.net/projects/solareclipse/. I missed it. I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this site, but it tries to make a list of available plug-ins. http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/index.jsp Another cool plug-in is Slime (a uml tool). It's not really

RE: [jug-discussion] Eclipse - was RE: [jug-discussion] Second time a charm

2002-06-25 Thread Art Gramlich
Associations) mapping *.htm and *.html to the XML editor to get colorized HTML source. Art Gramlich wrote: Simon, Good call on http://sourceforge.net/projects/solareclipse/. I missed it. I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this site, but it tries to make a list of available plug-ins

RE: [jug-discussion] drive recovery software os x

2002-06-21 Thread Art Gramlich
If it helps, most installations will use HFS+ (apple's filesystem - data/resource fork, etc). It is possible to create ufs/ffs bsd filesystems but it would be rare that this is done (performance is terrible, classic doesn't work, some carbon apps don't work, etc). -Original Message-