To me, 6 seems kind of "blah". 7 looks like it will be interesting.
Art Gramlich
Chief Application Architect
HealthTrio, LLC
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On May 9, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Warner Onstine wrote:
6 is available now (and has been for the past few months as a beta).
I really don&#x
, you wrote:
>On 6/19/07, Art Gramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it
(and if
>>you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates
to the
>>system).
>
>I think you mean
Yup. That's it.
On Jun 19, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Chad Woolley wrote:
On 6/19/07, Art Gramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it (and if
you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates to the
system).
I thi
So I'll pick up a few that no one has really mentioned yet.
Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it (and if
you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates to the
system). The concurrency model is truly amazing, and I haven't seen
anything like it. It
Where's Hatcher to plug ant? :-)
For us, ant has worked well and pretty much stayed out of the way
(like a build tool should).
Additionally, because of the widespread use, almost every tool has an
ant task (e.g. sablecc).
It looks like there are several scripting tasks now available for the
d
On 11/10/06, Art Gramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, I'd say sun is endoring jruby more since they have hired
the two main developers to work on it.
Kinda funny since Groovy seems like a better java integration
choice. Now if they would just fix the major bugs and get a 1.
Actually, I'd say sun is endoring jruby more since they have hired
the two main developers to work on it.
Kinda funny since Groovy seems like a better java integration
choice. Now if they would just fix the major bugs and get a 1.0 out.
On Nov 9, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:
On
So I won't post an "ad", but we are looking for Java people over at
HealthTrio. If you're interested send me or Keith Fisher
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) an email.
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Was my first thought too. I haven't look to much into the source but
there are people already talking about ports, etc.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:
Hmm, interesting, wonder if they can get Seaside 2 running on it yet.
-warner
On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:54 AM
Hitler.
Can it please stop now.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:13 PM, josh zeidner wrote:
Great, all this discussion needs is a reference to
Hitler and my life will be complete. Good times
people, time to get some work done. jmz
--- Art Gramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is this a
Is this a troll?
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:32 PM, josh zeidner wrote:
--- "Tim Colson (tcolson)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Josh -- if you are sincere about starting a
discussion on the topic of
JCP and JUG Goverance, then by all means walk your
own talk and start a
new thread with a relevant
We're calling it Society 3.0 now.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:19 PM, josh zeidner wrote:
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Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by
some, let's get serious.
Call it "govern themselves" or "sensorship" or
"standards" or "regulations",
etc. but
Thanks for a sane reply.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Michael Oliver wrote:
Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by some, let's get
serious.
Call it "govern themselves" or "sensorship" or "standards" or
"regulations",
etc. but the problem with that is who decides? If a discuss
Did anyone else see that Sun did a new BSD style license release of
all of Strongtalk earlier in the month?
It's windows only right now and really not complete (development
stopped when Sun bought the team to do HotSpot).
In case anyone is interested, it's at http://strongtalk.org/ and
discus
Sorry Mr. Zeidner, informal developer-related commentary is indeed
inappropriate content for a USERS GROUP.
In fact, I have seen on this list that at certain JUG meetings,
discussion on non-Java technologies have been discussed.
Everyone needs to get back to working on corporate project #101
You know I'm an updater (well will be once I get more money saved
again).
Right now I've got the dual G5 and a core duo imac. I did get rid of
the G4 800 since it really was getting a little too slow for my use.
In my experience the intels hold up to or beat the ppc machines (my
imac seems
Dabbledb is pretty slick. If you haven't watched the demo check it out.
It's written in smalltalk too (squeak).
On Jul 28, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Chad Woolley wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why isn't dabbledb a contender?
On 7/27/06, Tim Colson (tcolson) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You guessed i
thought they were using derby now and not hsqldb?
On Jul 28, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote:
Jumping into this conversation. a little late, but... :)
I'm not sure how much detail, etc. you need, but open office v2
includes
"Openoffice Base", which is an MS Access-ish program. I have
guys.
-warner
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I'd agree with the Broadway BN. Horrible. The one at foothills is
much better and the borders on oracle is pretty good. Was up at the
Fry's in Tempe over the weekend and their selection seems to have
gotten much better lately (even three books on smalltalk).
Art
On May 18, 2005, at 9:06 A
Thought this might be of interest.
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=27163
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but I'll go ahead anyway.
I've upgraded to a G5 and I'm selling my G4. Its the last QuickSilver 800
with 1GB of ram and a newer drive. Otherwise original and even have the box
it came in. If you are interested shoot me an email.
Art Gramlich
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-O
vb.net is a little to wordy and ugly for my tastes (this is only from
looking at examples).
BTW, while J# is kind of cool from an academic standpoint, I probably
wouldn't use it for real code.
Also forgot a pitfall on my last email:
In c# all exceptions are unchecked. This takes some getting us
: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] ok this may be taking the whole mac thing a
little far.
Art Gramlich wrote:
>I was going to talk to you today. It's still really buggy and I've gone
>back to 2.0.1 for now. 2.1 is going to b
I was going to talk to you today. It's still really buggy and I've gone
back to 2.0.1 for now. 2.1 is going to be fantastic when it's more stable.
Art
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Subjec
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From: Matt Sponer [mailto:matt.sponer@;healthtrio.com]
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Whoa, awesome. Thanks for posting that. I've been curious for a long time
why Swing is so unusable
I'd do a c# version :)
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From: William H. Mitchell [mailto:whm@;mse.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jug-discussion] Help needed with trivial Java -> VB6 and/or VB.NET
rewrite
I'm teaching a class on object-oriented analys
Actually, my own testing shows that for many, many things they are right
about equal on the same machine (.net usually having a slight prerformance
advantage). Any decision should probably come down to other issues.
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From: Rick Hightower [mailto:rhightower@;learningpatt
Thanks Warner!
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From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner@;warneronstine.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:29 AM
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Subject: [jug-discussion] jdk 1.4 on OS X
For those of you who have been waiting to get into OS X due to the JDK
issue, it is now availa
The think with macs is that just after you buy one they will release
something better :-). As long as the one you get works for what you need,
it's not really a problem. Right Jon?
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From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner@;warneronstine.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002
This is a good thread and we should keep it up (thanks Vincent for the
tips). I think that those using eclipse should check out these two pages:
http://mmoebius.gmxhome.de/eclipse/basics.htm
http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/1
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T
- All of the cvs functions - especially the way it displays differences
between you code and the repository.
In the same vein, you can use the local history to revert or recover deleted
classes (even if they aren't in the source control system). Saved me once
already.
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- Ctrl-Space for syntax assist.
This is another one of those magic keys. If you use it after a class name
where a field name would be allowed, it will give you some suggestions for
naming the field.
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To do what you want to do, put the cursor at the end of the class name and
press ctrl-space and pick the class. There are some options also to control
how the imports are handled (sorting and spacing) which also work for
reformatting.
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From: Ray Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PRO
Title: Eclipse-weirdness OSX shared
Shouldn't you move this to the Tucson mac users group
list?
:-)
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From: J t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002
12:19 AM
To: Tucson JUG
Subject: [jug-discussion]
Eclipse-weirdness OSX shared
The Shad
Just curious, have you been keeping this current?
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/platform-swt-home/de
v.html
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Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [jug-discuss
Easie works well. Lomboz has a lot of buzz.
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From: Warner Onstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] eclipse and web app deployment
I guess the main question is, 'Has anyone used these?'
I think a lot of this just comes from what you are used to or comfortable
with.
Actually, I never noticed about the ant integration not letting you click on
compilation problems. Must be that with incremental compilation, I know the
source will compile before I run ant :-).
-Original Me
Just a few things...
Very smart code completion (no refreshing the database like Netbeans) and
autofixes. If you have used VAJ, it's just the same.
Incremental compilation - at save, the class is compiled. You can see all
errors in a project in the task view. No more edit/compile/debug cycle.
Actually around here the opinions are about 50/50 on which is better.
IntelliJ seems to do nice refactoring and is very speedy for a swing
application. On the other hand, Eclipse is really starting to get there
now. Some of the plug-ins are really amazing. I'd say that by the end of
the year, t
The trick is to get the correct things into the eclipse/plug-ins directory.
I've noticed that some archives already have the plug-ins directory and
others don't. Just open the zip and take a look. Also make sure that you
follow any instructions as some plug-ins aren't immediately visible.
Hope
I thought the biggest problem was the lack of drag-and-drop support.
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From: Simon Ritchie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Eclipse on OS X
We're interested. Where do you plan to put it
Diapers and beer
It must be working since this describes my shopping habits.
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From: Vincent Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] new idea
We have a project in the works to implemen
Oh one last thing on eclipse. The 2.0 release is scheduled for Friday.
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From: Art Gramlich
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:15 AM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Eclipse - was RE: [jug-discussion] Second time
a charm
Here some more...
N
-File Associations) mapping *.htm and *.html to
the
XML editor to get colorized HTML source.
Art Gramlich wrote:
> Simon,
>
> Good call on http://sourceforge.net/projects/solareclipse/. I missed it.
>
> I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this site, but it tries to make
a
>
Simon,
Good call on http://sourceforge.net/projects/solareclipse/. I missed it.
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this site, but it tries to make a
list of available plug-ins.
http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/index.jsp
Another cool plug-in is Slime (a uml tool). It's not really
I've had the motif version working with real motif (openmotif.org). It's
got the nasty motif feel though.
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] eclipse on win2k
On M
Oh, yeah. Have you checked versiontracker.com?
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Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] drive recovery software os x
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From: "Paul Scott" <[EMAI
If it helps, most installations will use HFS+ (apple's filesystem -
data/resource fork, etc). It is possible to create ufs/ffs bsd filesystems
but it would be rare that this is done (performance is terrible, classic
doesn't work, some carbon apps don't work, etc).
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Fr
k out frys or
comp-usa for previous models - I think one of the compusas in Phoenix metro
area had some good deals less than $2000 for pretty good machines.
-Original Message-
From: Jon Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Art Gramlich; ''[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Jon,
I would avoid any g3 now.
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From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:26 PM
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Subject: [jug-discussion] new Mac questions
Ok. I really want to start playing with OSX but haven't touched a m
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