Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-19 Thread cdm
the wise individuals @tmpnb have made a Julia - Intro to Gadfly.ipynb file available with every session ... sweet sauce, yo. cdm On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:14:41 PM UTC-8, Valentin Churavy wrote: SNIP For the runnable part. Maybe we could use tmpnb/juliabox to host an example

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-19 Thread cdm
not sure how new this feature is, but over on tmpnb.org each session is served with access to terminal ... Julia is installed. long live the REPL, cdm On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:59:02 AM UTC-8, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: SNIP Unfortunately http://forio.com/julia/repl/ doesn't work

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-19 Thread Bas Dirks
Where do I send my technical (front-end) suggestions? Greetings, Bas On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:23:26 PM UTC+1, Stefan Karpinski wrote: We're looking to redesign the JuliaLang.org home page and try to give it a little more focus than it currently has. Which raises the question of what

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-19 Thread Ivar Nesje
kl. 13:01:36 UTC+1 fredag 19. desember 2014 skrev Bas Dirks følgende: Where do I send my technical (front-end) suggestions? For simple changes a Pull Request at https://github.com/JuliaLang/julialang.github.com would be great. For more drastic changes it's probably a good idea to open an

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-16 Thread Jim Garrison
Instead of settling on a single Why Julia, perhaps there should be a page on the new julialang.org that includes testimonials like this from different people using Julia. On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:55:14 AM UTC-8, Isaiah wrote: I've tried to start something like it at

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-16 Thread jgabriele382
On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:23:26 PM UTC-5, Stefan Karpinski wrote: We're looking to redesign the JuliaLang.org home page and try to give it a little more focus than it currently has. Which raises the question of what to focus on. We could certainly have better code examples and maybe

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-16 Thread Christoph Ortner
* colorful plots and LaTeX-rendered mathematics give me that warm fuzzy feeling :) +1 for this: this also along the lines of what I have been suggesting. Christoph On Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:08:14 UTC, jgabri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:23:26 PM UTC-5, Stefan

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-16 Thread muraveill
* e.g., benchmarks deserves (1) its own page, and (2) graphical plots here would speak louder than a data table This table is what caught me the first time. Moreover, the numbers themselves are interesting (not only relative ranks) and they would be harder to see in a graph. I'd

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-12 Thread Matt Bauman
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:30:42 PM UTC-5, Tony Kelman wrote: This week in Julia was a great contribution to the community but evidently took more effort than Matt had time to keep up with. Yes, indeed it was. Conferences, end-of-semester, and my own version of Jeff's issue #8839

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-11 Thread cdm
in support of Why Julia, it seems that fact that Julia is attracting some of the best and brightest minds spanning a diverse collection of fields ought to be displayed prominently ... as an example, perusing the COIN-OR Cup winners list returns several familiar names ( see

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Tim Holy
I like the Haskell one better than the Rust one. --Tim On Tuesday, December 09, 2014 11:14:41 PM Valentin Churavy wrote: An other nice example might be the new haskell homepage http://new-www.haskell.org/ For the runnable part. Maybe we could use tmpnb/juliabox to host an example notebook.

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Giacomo Kresak
Yes some plots examples would be great to improve the applicability of Julia. Issue has been discussed by Steven G. Johnson on: Dec 3 https://github.com/gizmaa/Julia_Examples/issues/1 Also a wonderful notebook in https://gist.github.com/gizmaa/7214002. Anyway THANKS for the effort. - G. On

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Valentin Churavy
I agree that displaying runnable code widgets are useless, but showing the good integration with Jupyter/IPython via juliabox/tmpnb/SAGE is not. It would enable to demonstrated people features of Julia without having them actually installing yet another programming environment, thus reducing

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Simon Byrne
Yeah, I don't think we need runnable widgets on the main page. A better option would be to have a Run in JuliaBox link which could start a new session. As far as code samples go, the ideal ones should: * be around 10 lines or so * demonstrate the key features of Julia (i.e. all the things under

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Job van der Zwan
My two cents: - Plots are great, but please make them readable for the colourblind - use triangles/squares/etc in addition to circles, use lightness and saturation on top of hue. I can't make sense of the linked examples so far. - Code widgets are probably not that interesting

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread elextr
One thing, (probably not on the front page) would be online access to the latest Git version for those of us limited to packaged versions.

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Hans W Borchers
Look at the R home page. R is one of the most popular languages, and esp. so for statistical and computational applications. A programming language does not need bloated home pages. I like the old Haskell home page much more than the new one. The new one has large, uninformative background

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Tamas Papp
From the discussion, it looks like that homepages for programming languages (and realed projects) serve two purposes: A. provide resources for the existing users (links to mailing lists, package directories, documentation, etc) B. provide information for potential new users (showcasing features

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
Am I the only one who thinks these runnable code widgets are totally useless? I'm curious as to how users interact with them in the real world. I bet 99% of them either ignore it or just press the button and see the default output. The ones who probably interact with it the most are

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Christian Peel
One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development schedule. For example - Some kind of general roadmap - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule? (yearly, six months, ...) - What features remain before a

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Valentin Churavy
I like the point: Solving P=NP reminds me of rust's * In theory. Rust is a work-in-progress and may do anything it likes up to and including eating your laundry. On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 19:15:05 UTC+1, Christian Peel wrote: One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Stefan Karpinski
We can add a bullet point about Julia not eating your laundry. My point of view is that Julia's pre-1.0 status does not mean that it can do whatever it wants and we have no responsibility. Rather it sends the much milder signal that between now and 1.0 we may change the language and standard

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Tamas Papp
On Wed, Dec 10 2014, Christian Peel sanpi...@gmail.com wrote: provide would be helpful. Also, I'd be happy for something like a weekly update; or a weekly blog post to help those who don't peruse this group in depth each day. there was http://thisweekinjulia.github.io/ but it has not been

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread John Myles White
As always in Julia (and OSS in general), I think the problem is that there's no labor supply to do most nice things for the community. Everybody would love to see weekly updates. Not many people have both the time and desire to do the work. -- John On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Tamas Papp

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Christian Peel
OK, thanks for the replies; John's reply below makes the situation clear. Chris On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:46:03 AM UTC-8, John Myles White wrote: As always in Julia (and OSS in general), I think the problem is that there's no labor supply to do most nice things for the community.

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Tracy Wadleigh
It might be nice to have a few examples of workflows that people who use Julia in real life have set up for themselves. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Christian Peel sanpi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, thanks for the replies; John's reply below makes the situation clear. Chris On Wednesday,

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Christoph Ortner
I would really like to see a page along the lines of http://www.mathworks.com/examples/ I've tried to start something like it at http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/C.Ortner/index.php?page=julia This was aimed mostly at my own research group and some friends and colleagues. Some

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Zwitch
Note that the framework is in place via juliabloggers.com. If someone wanted to pick up this task, but didn't want to dedicate creating a blog, I'm willing to create an author account to post directly. On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:46:03 PM UTC-5, John Myles White wrote: As always in

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Stefan Karpinski
Yeah, that's really a good why Julia. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Isaiah Norton isaiah.nor...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried to start something like it at http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/C.Ortner/index.php?page=julia This was aimed mostly at my own research group and some friends

RE: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread David Anthoff
+1 on that! Even vague plans that are subject to change would be great to have. From: julia-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:julia-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian Peel Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM To: julia-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [julia-users] Re: home

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Stefan Karpinski
@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development schedule. For example - Some kind of general roadmap - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread John Myles White
on that! Even vague plans that are subject to change would be great to have. From: julia-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:julia-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian Peel Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM To: julia-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [julia-users] Re: home

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Zwitch
javascript: [mailto: julia...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Christian Peel *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM *To:* julia...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-10 Thread Tony Kelman
to have. *From:* julia...@googlegroups.com [mailto:julia...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Christian Peel *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM *To:* julia...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content One thing that I would very much appreciate

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread elextr
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:23:26 AM UTC+10, Stefan Karpinski wrote: We're looking to redesign the JuliaLang.org home page and try to give it a little more focus than it currently has. Which raises the question of what to focus on. We could certainly have better code examples and

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Elliot Saba
We're having intermittent DNS issues. http://julialang.org is now up for me however, and I can dig it: (I couldn't, previously) $ dig julialang.org ; DiG 9.8.3-P1 julialang.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56740 ;; flags: qr rd ra;

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Leah Hanson
Seeing code examples of a type and a couple of functions that use it would probably give a good idea of what the code looks like. The JuMP seems exciting enough to highlight both as a package and a use of macros. I don't know if you want to encourage different styles, but seeing examples of

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Elliot Saba
Perhaps not now, but as a long-term goal, having a live, editable widget of code on the homepage is such an awesome draw-in, IMO. -E On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Leah Hanson astriea...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing code examples of a type and a couple of functions that use it would probably give

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Joey Huchette
I think the [Rust website](http://www.rust-lang.org/) is pretty fantastic, in terms of both design and content. Having the code examples runnable and editable (via JuliaBox) would be a killer feature, though I have no idea how feasible that is. On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:54:33 PM UTC-5,

[julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Arch Call
The Python web site: Python.org is pretty well organized. It has quite a few pull down menus that give good feedback to the user community. Sometimes a fresh look to the web site generates new interest. Most of these flashy web sites are driven on the back end by something like

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread John Myles White
+1 for emulating the Rust site -- John On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Joey Huchette joehuche...@gmail.com wrote: I think the [Rust website](http://www.rust-lang.org/) is pretty fantastic, in terms of both design and content. Having the code examples runnable and editable (via JuliaBox) would

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Stefan Karpinski
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Leah Hanson astriea...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you want to encourage different styles, but seeing examples of Python like, c like, and functional-ish ways of writing Julia would be a way to show off the variety of things you can do. I really this

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Stefan Karpinski
The Rust site is very nice – although I do feel that it has too little content on it and feels like a landing page that you just have to click through to somewhere else from. I can see having something like the Rust page but with more content below the fold. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:36 PM, John

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread David Smith
+1 for a runnable code widget. I think the typical scientific user will want to see immediately how to 1. create some variables. 2. do some math, probably with a matrix or vector. 3. plot something. 4. make a function. That is a basic fooling-around paradigm. Having a plot in the browser

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread cdm
re tight code ... S. Danisch's code length v. speed plot may well be deserving of some real esate: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7IPcrjXuxFY/VICwQ3TrgRI/JV0/_HmDWZiBrXQ/s1600/benchmarks.png awesome. cdm On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 9:09:03 PM UTC-8, Stefan Karpinski wrote:

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Pontus Stenetorp
On 10 December 2014 at 08:43, Leah Hanson astriea...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing code examples of a type and a couple of functions that use it would probably give a good idea of what the code looks like. This would be excellent, maybe with some JavaScript magic we could have a set of examples to

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Valentin Churavy
An other nice example might be the new haskell homepage http://new-www.haskell.org/ For the runnable part. Maybe we could use tmpnb/juliabox to host an example notebook. We should probably use a docker image with an userimages otherwise the attention span will be over before Gadfly is loaded.

Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content

2014-12-09 Thread Jake Bolewski
Am I the only one who thinks these runnable code widgets are totally useless? I'm curious as to how users interact with them in the real world. I bet 99% of them either ignore it or just press the button and see the default output. The ones who probably interact with it the most are going