[julia-users] Re: Warning when starting Julia in Juno: require(Symbol) in module Base at loading.jl:317 overwritten...

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
Hey, This warning has been around for awhile. Nothing to be concerned about, but also hopefully will be something that goes away soon. On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:26:29 PM UTC-7, Dennis Eckmeier wrote: > > Hi, > > Getting started with Julia, I installed Julia, and then Juno on Atom. I >

[julia-users] Re: Adding items into a tuple

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
Tuples are immutable by design. This is why they are fast, but also why you can't push into them. On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:26:29 PM UTC-7, Alexei Serdiuk wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to choose items from a range (1:N) according to some condition and > to push them into a tuple. > > I

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Sheehan Olver
But the core issue isn't 'eye' specific, it's "what should the default type for functions that create matrices be?"Christoph's comments do not deviate from this question. The answer to this question affects 'rand', 'zeros', 'ones', 'linspace', etc. just as much as eye. ArrayFire means

Re: [julia-users] IBM Power port

2016-08-29 Thread Viral Shah
I should point out that the linalg tests are expected to fail for now, since we are awaiting a new openblas release, which is known to fix these issues. -viral On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 10:26:38 AM UTC+5:30, Viral Shah wrote: > > I have uploaded Julia-0.5 on Power8 binaries here. These are

Re: [julia-users] IBM Power port

2016-08-29 Thread Viral Shah
We are getting this onto our buildbots thanks to Elliot and Tony. It would be great if folks can give these binaries a try. https://s3.amazonaws.com/julianightlies/bin/linux/ppc64le/0.5/julia-0.5.0-3005940a21-linuxppc64.tar.gz Do run Base.runtests(). The processor warning is known, and report

[julia-users] RandIP A random IP generator for Large scale network mapping.

2016-08-29 Thread Jacob Yates
I've been working on porting a script I wrote in python to julia and have been having some issues with the script freezing. So pretty much all this script does is generate a random IP address and checks to see if its valid(the Python version will give http error codes) then logs the results

[julia-users] Warning when starting Julia in Juno: require(Symbol) in module Base at loading.jl:317 overwritten...

2016-08-29 Thread Dennis Eckmeier
Hi, Getting started with Julia, I installed Julia, and then Juno on Atom. I got Julia to start, but I get the following warning: WARNING: Method definition require(Symbol) in module Base at loading.jl:317 overwritten in module Main at C:\Users\\.julia\v0.5\Requires\src\require.jl:12. WARNING:

[julia-users] Adding items into a tuple

2016-08-29 Thread Alexei Serdiuk
Hi, I need to choose items from a range (1:N) according to some condition and to push them into a tuple. I understand how to add items into an array: t=Array() for i = 1:N if condition==true push!(t, i) end; end Is there a way to push them into a tuple? Thanks.

[julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Devin Kilminster
I agree with everyone who's saying you should look at Plots.jl, but if for now you must use Winston, you might have luck with the version I forked and hacked to make run on 0.5: Pkg.clone("g...@github.com:MetServiceDev/Tk.jl.git") Pkg.clone("g...@github.com:MetServiceDev/Winston.jl.git") I

[julia-users] Running Julia in Ubuntu

2016-08-29 Thread Angshuman Goswami
I was running Julia to run my MPC code. I needed to upgrade and hence i deleted the folder i cloned from git hub. Now I have two problems: 1) Installing julia by sudo get-apt install julia, I get the following message: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Sorry for the combative tone Christoph. I thought it was necessary in order to not deviate too much from the core issue. Thank you for your participation and for raising your personal opinions about the topic. -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Christoph Ortner
Personal opinion again: I think it is not good to underestimate the importance of teaching. Mathematics students in particular tend to stick with the language they learn first. It is part of why Matlab is so successful in the applied mathematics community. P.S.: Not sure why such a combative

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Sheehan Olver
But eye and linspace are not the only culprits: there's rand, zeros, etc. so unless everything is a special type, ArrayFire will still need constructors like rand(AFArray{Float64},5,5) Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Aug 2016, at 13:02, Júlio Hoffimann wrote: > > So

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
So maybe add a dimension or create a type that makes more sense for the application? -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Sheehan Olver
I doesn't have a dimension so you can't do collect(I) Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:53, Júlio Hoffimann wrote: > > Why is it so important to have all this machinery around linspace and eye? > collect is more than enough in my opinion and all the

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Why is it so important to have all this machinery around linspace and eye? collect is more than enough in my opinion and all the proposals for keeping both versions and pass a type as a parameter are diluting the main issue here: the need for a smart mechanism that handles things efficiently and

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Sheehan Olver
I’d also propose adding linspace(Vector{Float64},0,100) linspace(Range,0,100) linspace(LinSpace{Float64},0,100) as constructors that return the corresponding type. That way Christoph can use the linspace(Vector{Float64},0,100) version in his teaching. > On 30 Aug

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
I just think the moment you start mixing default behaviors, you teaching becomes exponentially harder. I found range objects not that hard to teach, just "it uses an abstract version of an array to not really build the array, but know what the value would be every time you want one. If you

Re: [julia-users] Package installation directory: dealing with multiple Julia version

2016-08-29 Thread Kevin Liu
Hi Tim, I changed my package directory on OSX to be in Google Drive, but *using* the package on the REPL calls it from the default location, /.julia/v0.4... How do I change *using* to call the package from Google Drive? Thanks, Kevin On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 7:14:41 AM UTC-3, Tim Holy

Re: [julia-users] Unstructured Spline2D (progress / performance)

2016-08-29 Thread Chris
Thanks, I implemented a weighted distance across n neighbouring points to solve my problem for the moment. Using a triangulation would probably be a better solution, though. On Tuesday, 30 August 2016 00:49:13 UTC+10, Tim Holy wrote: > > For unstructured grids, it depends a lot on what you want.

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
I confess I'm not quite sure what the right answer is here. It would seem overkill to have both `I` and something that's the same thing, except sized. OTOH, I see the attraction. Maybe if it were part of a general mechanism, e.g., SizedArrayOperator{O,N} (for performing an operation `O` on

Re: [julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
Just noticed that you're allocating memory on each iteration. If you have the patience to write out all those matrix operations explicitly, it should help. Alternatively, perhaps try ParallelAccelerator. Best, --Tim On Monday, August 29, 2016 10:49:40 AM CDT Marius Millea wrote: > Thanks, just

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Christoph, Can you elaborate on why you want to have both? Also, why you wanted the non-lazy linspace? If I understood correctly, you're talking about returning a array with allocated memory versus a range object, isn't the latter always preferred? I don't understand. -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Sheehan Olver
I think the ArrayFire.jl (https://github.com/JuliaComputing/ArrayFire.jl) syntax for matrices (e.g. rand(AFArray{Float64},100,100)) should be adopted in Base to allow multiple eye commands that return different types: eye(Diagonal{Float64},10) eye(SparseMatrix,10) # default to Float?

Re: [julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Erik Schnetter
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Jared Crean wrote: > Here is an oddity: > > julia> s > Set([2,3,1]) > > julia> in(s, 2) > false > > julia> in(2, s) > true > > I would have though the first use of in would be an error because asking > if a set is contained in a number is not

Re: [julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Sisyphuss
On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 4:26:44 PM UTC+2, Daniel Carrera wrote: > > On 29 August 2016 at 16:07, Chris Rackauckas > wrote: > >> That's exactly the reason why it's a good idea. The backends aren't >> swappable, but the code is. And for the most part that means you can

[julia-users] Re: RDatasets "UndefVarError: displaysize not defined"

2016-08-29 Thread Rock Pereira
It also works in 0.4.6 in the REPL

Re: [julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Alex Mellnik
Jared, You might be interested in what I consider the most useful Julia function that's not actually in Base: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29661315/vectorized-in-function-in-julia vectorin(2, s) 0-dimensional Array{Bool,0}: true vectorin(s, 2) 3-element Array{Bool,1}: true

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Christoph Ortner
Two give my two cents: I think this is an inconsistency in the design of the standard library. * while we have both I and eye available for the Identity matrix, * linspace was replaced with a lazy data-structure. Personally I would like to keep both I and eye; but I also would have liked to

Re: [julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Jared Crean
Here is an oddity: julia> s Set([2,3,1]) julia> in(s, 2) false julia> in(2, s) true I would have though the first use of in would be an error because asking if a set is contained in a number is not defined. Is there some other interpretation of the operation? On Monday, August 29, 2016 at

[julia-users] Re: RDatasets "UndefVarError: displaysize not defined"

2016-08-29 Thread Tony Kelman
This should be reported as an issue - probably to the DataFrames.jl package. Can you get it to happen in Julia 0.4 outside of IJulia? On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 12:30:19 PM UTC-7, Rock Pereira wrote: > > I switched to 0.5.0 rc3 > Everything is OK. >

[julia-users] Re: RDatasets "UndefVarError: displaysize not defined"

2016-08-29 Thread Rock Pereira
I switched to 0.5.0 rc3 Everything is OK.

Re: [julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Jared Crean
Ah, yes. That's it. Thanks, Jared Crean On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 3:11:02 PM UTC-4, Erik Schnetter wrote: > > Jared > > Are you looking for the function `in`? > > -erik > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Jared Crean > wrote: > >> I'm looking for a data

Re: [julia-users] Blob detection and size measurement in Julia?

2016-08-29 Thread Alex Mellnik
Hi Tim, Thanks for the update. After pulling the master I was able to detect some blobs depending on what I used for the sigmas. However, I realized the problem of actually tracking the areas of the blobs between frames was quite a bit more complicated than I originally thought, and I've

Re: [julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Erik Schnetter
Jared Are you looking for the function `in`? -erik On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Jared Crean wrote: > I'm looking for a data structure that allows O(1) querying if a value is > contained in the data structure, and reasonably fast construction of the > data structure

[julia-users] Set Data Structure

2016-08-29 Thread Jared Crean
I'm looking for a data structure that allows O(1) querying if a value is contained in the data structure, and reasonably fast construction of the data structure given that the initial size is unknown (although this criteria is not that strict). I was looking at the Set in base, but I can't

[julia-users] Re: FYI: Second transpiler to Julia(?), from Ruby, and benchmarks

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
That's a good showing for Julia for the larger matrices? However, for smaller matrices it's a large constant time. Is it including startup/compilation time? Did they not "run it twice"? On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 8:57:32 AM UTC-7, Páll Haraldsson wrote: > > > I have no relation to this.. > >

[julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Ralph Smith
Dict can be slow. Try d_cl = Array{Array,1} for i=1:np d_cl[i] = copy(inv_cl) end I can't say if that leads to good threads since nthreads() gives me only 1 today.

Re: [julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Marius Millea
Thanks, I did notice that, but regardless this shouldn't affect the scaling with NCPUs, and in fact as you say, it doesn't change performance at all. On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 7:27:44 PM UTC+2, Diego Javier Zea wrote: > > Looks like the type of *d_cl* isn't inferred correctly. *d_cl =

Re: [julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Marius Millea
Thanks, just tried wrapping the for loop inside a function and it seems to make the @threads version slightly slower and serial version slightly faster, so I'm even further from the speedup I was hoping for! Reading through that Issue and linked ones, I guess I may not be the only one seeing

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Tim, Would it make sense to have "I" as an object that acts like UniformScaling and doesn't require any memory allocation, but is only transformed into sparse matrix via the [] operator? Maybe something similar to arrays -> subarrays? -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Diego Javier Zea
Looks like the type of *d_cl* isn't inferred correctly. *d_cl = Dict(i => ones(3,3,nl) for i=1:np)::Dict{Int64,Array{Float64,3}}* helps with that, but I din't see a change in performance. Best

[julia-users] RDatasets "UndefVarError: displaysize not defined"

2016-08-29 Thread Rock Pereira
Julia Version 0.4.6 Commit 2e358ce (2016-06-19 17:16 UTC) Windows 10 using RDatasets RDatasets.datasets("rpart") UndefVarError: displaysize not defined in writemime at C:\Users\Rock\.julia\v0.4\DataFrames\src\abstractdataframe\io.jl:181 in sprint at iostream.jl:206 in display_dict at

Re: [julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
Very quickly (train to catch!): try this https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/ issues/17395#issuecomment-241911387 and see if it helps. --Tim On Monday, August 29, 2016 9:22:09 AM CDT Marius Millea wrote: > I've parallelized some code with @threads, but instead of a factor NCPUs > speed

[julia-users] Re: TK dependency woes

2016-08-29 Thread Lewis Levin
Further: there is nothing about the command line. If you include("script.jl") in julia, the first time it fails. Immediately, run it a second time and it works. Go figure. This is still not really as it should be and looking for any further help. On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:45:02 AM

[julia-users] Re: TK dependency woes

2016-08-29 Thread Lewis Levin
Deeper view of the problem. Either code in Julia packages or OS X itself can't resolve symlinks properly. If you look at the conflict message, the conflict is between libtk.dylib and /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. Here is the absurdity: libtk.dylib is a symlink to

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
The reason is because `I` doesn't have a size, so you can't `full(I)`. I think the most reasonable thing would be for `I` to have an optional size (and then act like an identity operator of that size, so error on the wrong size multiplications, etc.), and then have sparse(I), Diagonal(I), and

[julia-users] Re: TK dependency woes

2016-08-29 Thread Lewis Levin
I'd seen that reference you suggested and I don't really want to change all the dependencies. Something in the latest mods of ImageView or Images broke things. All I've done is to reinstall Julia 0.4.6 and all packages. All of the dependencies: Python, TK, tcl have been left as is. If I

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread 'Tobias Knopp' via julia-users
But if it does not makes sense from your point to give a full matrix, why does it make more sense to return a diagonal matrix? It is still lots of heap allocated memory. So you replace a large performance trap with a smaller one. What has been gained? We would still have to teach people the

[julia-users] @threads not providing as big speedup as expected

2016-08-29 Thread Marius Millea
I've parallelized some code with @threads, but instead of a factor NCPUs speed improvement (for me, 8), I'm seeing rather a bit under a factor 2. I suppose the answer may be that my bottleneck isn't computation, rather memory access. But during running the code, I see my CPU usage go to 100%

Re: [julia-users] Re: Hard time with Compat and 0.5

2016-08-29 Thread J Luis
Ah, I got it now. Thanks. segunda-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2016 às 17:05:58 UTC+1, Tim Holy escreveu: > > To rephrase what Steven and Tony said, for some things you won't need a > macro. > For example, `unsafe_wrap` didn't exist on Julia 0.4, but Compat contains > an > implementation of

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
On Monday, August 29, 2016 10:40:10 AM CDT Júlio Hoffimann wrote: > Why would one want dense identity matrix? Because you might want it to serve as an initialization for an iterative optimization routine (e.g., ICA) that updates the solution in place, and which assumes a dense matrix? We could

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
The confusion is pretty clear. Someone suggested code like m = m + lambda*eye(m) when eye(m) shouldn't be used there. And if lambda is a vector of eigenvalues, eye(m) still shouldn't be used there and instead the Diagonal should be used. So if you shouldn't be using this command, why should it

Re: [julia-users] Re: Hard time with Compat and 0.5

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
To rephrase what Steven and Tony said, for some things you won't need a macro. For example, `unsafe_wrap` didn't exist on Julia 0.4, but Compat contains an implementation of `unsafe_wrap` for use on Julia 0.4. It's just a plain-old function call, so you don't need `@compat`---just use it in

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
As Julio asks, why should the default be a dense identity matrix? Who actually wants to use that? I agree `I` should be in more visible in the docs and in most cases it's the better option. But if you actually want a matrix as an array instead of just an operator (this is reasonable, because

[julia-users] FYI: Second transpiler to Julia(?), from Ruby, and benchmarks

2016-08-29 Thread Páll Haraldsson
I have no relation to this.. https://github.com/remore/julializer [may not work to transpile Ruby on Rails to Julia - yet, there is an old package RoR that allows it to work with Julia though.] Interesting benchmarks here ("virtual_module" is transpiled, but "Julia 0.4.6 not, only to

Re: [julia-users] Wiener deconvolution

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
Or perhaps make the package Deconvolution.jl, and have wiener be the first (and currently only) method? Best, --Tim On Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:44:44 PM CDT Mosè Giordano wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote a very simple implementation of the Wiener deconvolution >

[julia-users] Re: Hard time with Compat and 0.5

2016-08-29 Thread J Luis
Ok, but than how do I quiet the tons of deprecation messages that show up? segunda-feira, 29 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:57:34 UTC+1, Tony Kelman escreveu: > > You generally only need to call the @compat macro when you're trying to > use some new syntax that didn't parse correctly on older versions

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Why would one want dense identity matrix?

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Kristoffer Carlsson
What is the confusion? Use eye(n) if you want a dense identity matrix. Use I if you want something that acts like an identity element. Use Diagonal(ones(n)) if you want a diagonal identity matrix. I see no reason at all why eye should be changed. On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 4:32:34 PM UTC+2,

[julia-users] Re: Hard time with Compat and 0.5

2016-08-29 Thread Tony Kelman
You generally only need to call the @compat macro when you're trying to use some new syntax that didn't parse correctly on older versions of Julia. If it parses correctly, Compat usually implements it with normal functions and methods, no need for a syntax-rewriting macro. On Monday, August

Re: [julia-users] Wiener deconvolution

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
If you can't find another home, I'd be happy to have it in Images, but to me DSP seems like the (slightly) better choice. That said, I also don't think it's terrible to have small packages (they are easier to document and faster for newcomers to come to grips with), so it could also stay a

Re: [julia-users] Unstructured Spline2D (progress / performance)

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Holy
For unstructured grids, it depends a lot on what you want. I'm a fan of piecewise linear polyhedral interpolation, but there are many other choices: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivariate_interpolation#Irregular_grid_. 28scattered_data.29. One of the (many) Voronoi/Delaunay packages should

Re: [julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Daniel Carrera
On 29 August 2016 at 16:07, Chris Rackauckas wrote: > That's exactly the reason why it's a good idea. The backends aren't > swappable, but the code is. And for the most part that means you can just > avoid the cons of any backend instead of having to fight against them. You >

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
But you don't want a sparse matrix. It would not be an efficient way to actually use it since sparse matrices have a bit of overhead due to their table structure. Even better would be a Diagonal since it's just an array with dispatches to act like a diagonal matrix. But best would be to use the

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
It is more than sparse, it acts as scalar at first, maybe the operator [] modifies the type to sparse? -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Kristoffer Carlsson
You mean a sparse matrix?

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Andreas, is there a way to get the best of both worlds? Let's say eye() is deprecated, can we somehow set off-diagonal terms in a type that is smart like UniformScaling and supports indexing with operator []? -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Tom Breloff
The important points of this thread: - There hasn't been a tag in a year for Winston, but there have been fixes, including from Jeff and Stefan. Check out master and try again - You might consider other packages, because there's lots of options out there - Chris REALLY wants to

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
Isn't `I` better here? On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 6:49:41 AM UTC-7, Evan Fields wrote: > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:39:19 AM UTC-4, Júlio Hoffimann wrote: >> >> I'd like to understand the existence of eye() in Julia, it is still not >> clear to me. Is it because one wants type

[julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Chris Rackauckas
This isn't the thread for this, but I'll bite. That's exactly the reason why it's a good idea. The backends aren't swappable, but the code is. And for the most part that means you can just avoid the cons of any backend instead of having to fight against them. You could be making all of your

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
Evan, this is exactly where you should use I, i.e. m = m + λ*I The reason is that eye(m) will first allocate a dense matrix of size(m,1)^2 elements. Then * will do size(m,1)^2 multiplications of lambda and allocate a new size(m,1)^2 matrix for the result. Finally, size(m,1)^2 additions will be

[julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Daniel Carrera
I currently use PyPlot. It has a lot going for it, as it is the most mature plotting package for Julia right now (thanks to Matplotlib). I don't use Plots.jl right now because I am happier using PyPlot directly. I like the API better, and I have more control because I have a way to issue any

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Evan Fields
On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:39:19 AM UTC-4, Júlio Hoffimann wrote: > > I'd like to understand the existence of eye() in Julia, it is still not > clear to me. Is it because one wants type stability when updating a matrix > iteratively? Is this possibly a limitation from the design of the

[julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Daniel Carrera
Plots.jl is a good idea, but the backends are not really swappable. You can get a fairly different plot if you swap the backend. On Saturday, 27 August 2016 02:19:45 UTC+2, Chris Rackauckas wrote: > > You should really check out Plots.jl. It's a plotting metapackage which > lets you use the

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
Julia is developing over time. Originally, eye was probably implemented to mimic Matlab. Later we realized that the type system allowed us to define the much nicer UniformScaling which has the special case const I = UniformScaling(1) which is almost alway better to use unless you plan to modify

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
We could deprecate eye. Then the users would get a warning directing them to use `I` instead. On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Júlio Hoffimann wrote: > I still think that having a "global variable" named "I" is not robust. > I've read so many scripts in matlab that do

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
I'd like to understand the existence of eye() in Julia, it is still not clear to me. Is it because one wants type stability when updating a matrix iteratively? Is this possibly a limitation from the design of the language? -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
I still think that having a "global variable" named "I" is not robust. I've read so many scripts in matlab that do I = eye(n). This approach is not gonna work. -Júlio

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
If we could somehow make `I` more visible, wouldn't you think that B = I*A is better than B = eye(1)*A ? Small side note: the best we can hope for is probably performance similarly to B = copy(A) because it wouldn't be okay to alias A and B when B has been constructed from *. On Mon, Aug

Re: [julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Júlio Hoffimann
Hi Andreas, As a user I would like to write B = eye(1) * A and have the performance of B = A 90% of the users won't be aware of this 1-character variable "I" defined in Base nor use it. Also, I can guarantee that "I" is much easier to overwrite than a well known function name. -Júlio

[julia-users] Re: Hard time with Compat and 0.5

2016-08-29 Thread J Luis
> > No, it is: > > t = unsafe_wrap(Array, Gb.data, h.size) > > as in the deprecation warning. > Thanks (I'd figured it out too meanwhile) > (You don't need @compat just for function calls. You only need @compat > for things where the syntax changes in a more complicated way.) > Hmm,

Re: [julia-users] AutoGrad port for Julia

2016-08-29 Thread Mosè Giordano
Hi Tom, Mose: what version of julia are you on? Anonymous functions and closures > are much faster on 0.5... In fact there should be no performance penalty vs > regular functions, which allows you to rethink your paradigm. > It was Julia 0.4.6, but I get similar results also with Julia

[julia-users] Re: is there an rcond (reciprocal condition number of a matrix) function to complement cond

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
No. We are only exposing `cond` but as you can see in https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/blob/master/base/linalg/lu.jl#L235 we are actually getting `rcond` from LAPACK and then calling `inv`. I can see the usefulness of working with a number in [0,1] instead of [1,inf) but it seems superfluous

[julia-users] Re: Return type of eye()

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Noack
You can also overwrite eye Could you elaborate on the "90% of the users won't be aware of these internal details in their day-to-day coding" part? If we ignore the name for a while, why is `I` not what you want here? It is as efficient as it can possibly be. On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at

[julia-users] Re: Can someone please update Winston?

2016-08-29 Thread Andreas Lobinger
Hello colleague, On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 12:04:22 AM UTC+2, K leo wrote: > > so that it works with version 0.5. could you please list/report what errors you get? Do you use Tk or Gtk? I looked a little bit around yesterday (with Gtk) and it looks like plotting does work, but not

Re: [julia-users] AutoGrad port for Julia

2016-08-29 Thread Tom Breloff
Deniz thanks for the package. I plan on reviewing it this week to decide if it's a good fit for JuliaML. We're in the market for fast and well typed backprop. Mose: what version of julia are you on? Anonymous functions and closures are much faster on 0.5... In fact there should be no performance

Re: [julia-users] Re: AutoGrad port for Julia

2016-08-29 Thread Deniz Yuret
Hi Mosè, Thanks for the wonderful feedback! AutoGrad has some overhead for recording and differentiating primitive operators. However I think there is room for improvement - the current design has elements of the original Python package, anonymous functions, closures, etc. that are probably not