Re: discourse testing

2023-02-06 Thread Harald Sitter
Good morning! Since my last email we've made various improvements as suggestions came in. If we forgot to action something please give @sitter or @carl a ping. We've now also enabled site-local registration as well as login using google, facebook, and github. Please give this a good testing if

Re: discourse testing

2023-01-01 Thread Paul Brown
On Sunday, 1 January 2023 11:52:54 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > I'm actually not sure what that is about. Maybe Carl knows? > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grzegorz Szymaszek wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When trying to register, I’ve got the Email, Username and Name filled > > out from (most

Re: discourse testing

2023-01-01 Thread Harald Sitter
I'm actually not sure what that is about. Maybe Carl knows? On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 2:40 PM Grzegorz Szymaszek wrote: > > Hi, > > When trying to register, I’ve got the Email, Username and Name filled > out from (most likely) Invent. The fourth field, Invent Profile, is > empty. Could you explain

Re: discourse testing

2022-12-31 Thread Grzegorz Szymaszek
Hi, When trying to register, I’ve got the Email, Username and Name filled out from (most likely) Invent. The fourth field, Invent Profile, is empty. Could you explain what is the purpose of that field, what one is expected to type there? Thanks in advance! All the best -- Grzegorz

Re: discourse testing

2022-12-30 Thread Paul Brown
On Friday, 30 December 2022 12:12:42 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > Hello my dearies, > > at last; the day has come! We are testing discourse as new forum > software. Best. Xmas present. ever. -- Promotion & Communication www: http://kde.org Mastodon: https://floss.social/@kde Facebook:

Re: discourse testing

2022-12-30 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
<3 On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:13 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > Hello my dearies, > > at last; the day has come! We are testing discourse as new forum > software. I'd like to invite you to give it a bit of testing so we can > figure out problems or annoyances we have with it. This is currently >

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Jonathan Riddell
I asked Alan the Ubuntu community manager if he had insights into their setup and security concerns, he said: In short, do what upstream supports. I setup a discourse recently which I did using digitialocean and the upstream install process, which indeed is inside docker ( I haven't read

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Jonathan Riddell
I asked Greg from Fedora who has led their change away from mailing lists onto Discourse. gwmngilfen: over in KDE land the discussion about Discourse continues with queries about whether running in a Docker is a good idea (seems ideal to me but sysadmins disagree) and if there's any security

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Harald Sitter
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 1:31 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > > Il giorno Tue, 4 Dec 2018 12:48:48 +0100 > Harald Sitter ha scritto: > > > OTOH I also don't understand how the current spam protection works. Do > > we maintain a list of blacklisted words? Because from what I > > understand discourse has

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Tue, 4 Dec 2018 12:48:48 +0100 Harald Sitter ha scritto: > OTOH I also don't understand how the current spam protection works. Do > we maintain a list of blacklisted words? Because from what I > understand discourse has that built in. Along with blocking by IP. Yeah, it works

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Harald Sitter
I've started a wiki page. I encourage people to chip in. https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Evaluation/Discourse HS

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Harald Sitter
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:03 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > > Il giorno Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:58:27 +0100 > Harald Sitter ha scritto: > > > > Is it Akismet in name, or uses the service? > > I am not sure what that means I am afraid. > > Akismet is a (non-Free) antispam service used originally by >

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:58:27 +0100 Harald Sitter ha scritto: > > Is it Akismet in name, or uses the service? > I am not sure what that means I am afraid. Akismet is a (non-Free) antispam service used originally by Wordpress.com, optionally self-hosted WP, but now used also by other

Re: Discourse

2018-12-04 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 5:41 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > > Can you describe these workflows a bit? > > There is this https://www.discourse.org/plugins/akismet.html not sure > > Is it Akismet in name, or uses the service? I am not sure what that means I am afraid. > > it's sufficient though. One

Re: Discourse

2018-11-29 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:32:12 +0100 Harald Sitter ha scritto: > with the current forums? Do we have the original evaluation of how we > ended up with phpbb somewhere? Originally it was MyBB[1] (just open sourced), then we started hitting some limitations there, and it was decided to move

Re: Discourse

2018-11-29 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:54 AM Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On donderdag 29 november 2018 11:32:12 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > > > In fact, I am also not sure why everyone seems to consider importing > > 10 year old forum posts a given requirement here. We migrated away > > from reviewboard with

Re: Discourse

2018-11-29 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On donderdag 29 november 2018 11:32:12 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > In fact, I am also not sure why everyone seems to consider importing > 10 year old forum posts a given requirement here. We migrated away > from reviewboard with zero data migration, and the data that is in > reviewboard is largely

Re: Discourse

2018-11-29 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:03 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 5:25 AM Lays Rodrigues wrote: > > > > Let's not go in that way. > > As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern web. At > > least in my point of view, I really think that using old stuff

Re: Discourse

2018-11-29 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 5:25 AM Lays Rodrigues wrote: > > Let's not go in that way. > As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern web. At > least in my point of view, I really think that using old stuff doesn't > attract new people. In that I have a few ideas for some

Re: Discourse

2018-11-28 Thread Jacky Alcine
On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:32:40 PST Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:25:06 -0200 > > Lays Rodrigues ha scritto: > > As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern > > web. At least in my point of view, I really think that using old > > Then someone

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Mon, 26 Nov 2018 10:23:42 +0200 Ilmari Lauhakangas ha scritto: > step to recruit someone to upgrade the existing forum to the latest > version of phpBB (which has evolved during all this time after all)? The main pain problem because it's not a "one click" update is mainly because the

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:25:06 -0200 Lays Rodrigues ha scritto: > As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern > web. At least in my point of view, I really think that using old Then someone needs to do it: as you are well aware, that's how most of the stuff in KDE

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On dinsdag 27 november 2018 17:30:13 CET Martin Flöser wrote: > I don't want to tell developers to not do user support. If they want to > do that, it's fine. But currently our infrastructure forces it on us. > And that's a problem and won't scale in the long run. Let's see how the ask.krita.org

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Lays Rodrigues kirjoitti 27.11.2018 klo 18.25: Let's not go in that way. As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern web. At least in my point of view, I really think that using old stuff doesn't attract new people. In that I have a few ideas for some KDE websites go

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Martin Flöser
Am 2018-11-26 22:04, schrieb Ingo Klöcker: On Montag, 26. November 2018 18:03:55 CET Martin Flöser wrote: Am 2018-11-26 09:23, schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas: > The main problem in any case will be getting enough engagement. I > don't think I have ever received a reply from a KDE developer in the >

Re: Discourse

2018-11-27 Thread Lays Rodrigues
Let's not go in that way. As a ~new person~ on KDE, 3 years only, we need to move to a modern web. At least in my point of view, I really think that using old stuff doesn't attract new people. In that I have a few ideas for some KDE websites go modern, but that is a project for the future.

Re: Discourse

2018-11-26 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Montag, 26. November 2018 18:03:55 CET Martin Flöser wrote: > Am 2018-11-26 09:23, schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas: > > The main problem in any case will be getting enough engagement. I > > don't think I have ever received a reply from a KDE developer in the > > current forums. > > And that's good!

Re: Discourse

2018-11-26 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Martin Flöser kirjoitti 26.11.2018 klo 19.03: Am 2018-11-26 09:23, schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas: The main problem in any case will be getting enough engagement. I don't think I have ever received a reply from a KDE developer in the current forums. And that's good! Do you want that developers

Re: Discourse

2018-11-26 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On maandag 26 november 2018 09:23:42 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > The main problem in any case will be getting enough engagement. I don't > think I have ever received a reply from a KDE developer in the current > forums. I've made over 4100 forum posts, and I'm certainly a KDE developer. --

Re: Discourse

2018-11-25 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:58:48 -0200 Lays Rodrigues ha scritto: > So, is it possible to add Discourse for KDE? Given the burden on Sysadmin already, there needs to be someone willing to shoulder this work (and go past their objections, like the use of Postgres), at least for evaluation

Re: Discourse

2018-11-25 Thread Lays Rodrigues
So, is it possible to add Discourse for KDE? Because this discussion is dead for almost a month now =/ On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:24 PM Lays Rodrigues wrote: > So, is it possible to add Discourse for KDE? > > Because this discussion is dead for almost a month now =/ > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Eike Hein
On 10/29/18 1:31 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > More coverage on last week's LWN > https://lwn.net/Articles/768483/ > > Discussing it in person it was pointed out that we do already use > Phabricator Workboards for much discussion and it might well overlap > there, although I don't think that

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Michael Reeves
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 6:50 AM Paul Adams wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 11:42, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > If you're running 10,000+ microservice instances, then you can have > > the teams of people needed to maintain the necessary overhead > > This is true. Also not your original point: you

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Lays Rodrigues
I do think that we should consider to move to discourse. One thing that I've learned with the agile method is to discover the 'pain' of my user and try to cure it. What i see from this thread is the 'pain' of maintaining this kind of infrastructure, that I think that using tools of automations

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Adams
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 11:42, Ben Cooksley wrote: > If you're running 10,000+ microservice instances, then you can have > the teams of people needed to maintain the necessary overhead This is true. Also not your original point: you claimed that Docker containers were generally unsuitable for

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:59 PM Paul Adams wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 07:28, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > Sorry, Docker might be a wonderful way to test applications, but it's > > totally unsuitable for production workloads. > > That's a bold claim. At Zalando we have 10,000s of microservices

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Harald Sitter
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:38 AM Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On maandag 29 oktober 2018 19:31:54 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ > > > > I went to a talk at

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Christian Loosli
Hi all, from what I get from the documentation, discourse has a mailing list mode which can, from a end user point of view, be used the same as a mailing list. As in: in a mail client, without additional config that would not be needed with a ML as well. So assuming we have 1) Sysadmins

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:38:28 +0100 Boudewijn Rempt ha scritto: > As for the forum, it would be good to replace that with something > more modern. We get a lot of traffic on the forums, People don't I don't want to sound overly negative, but that's a common feeling also for those who

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Adams
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 07:28, Ben Cooksley wrote: > Sorry, Docker might be a wonderful way to test applications, but it's > totally unsuitable for production workloads. That's a bold claim. At Zalando we have 10,000s of microservices in production and each one of them is running inside a Docker

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Harald Sitter
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 7:32 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ > > I went to a talk at the Embedded Linux Summit about how Fedora moved to use > Discourse.

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Harald Sitter
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:28 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > thanks to Docker's lack of user namespaces Docker has user namespacing. At blue systems we've been using it since September 2016 https://docs.docker.com/engine/security/userns-remap/ HS

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread totte
On 2018-10-30 08:38, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On maandag 29 oktober 2018 19:31:54 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ I went to a talk at the Embedded Linux Summit

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:38 PM Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On maandag 29 oktober 2018 19:31:54 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ > > > > I went to a talk at

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On maandag 29 oktober 2018 19:31:54 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ or https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ > > I went to a talk at the Embedded Linux Summit about how Fedora moved to use > Discourse.

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Paul Brown
Hello, Although my experience maintaining a full-fledged Discourse deployment is nil (so I can't speak to that side of the discussion with any authority), I did install and research Discourse for an experiment with Hispalinux a couple of years ago. From a users' point of view, the Discourse

Re: Discourse

2018-10-30 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca Beltrame wrote: > > - As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker. > > This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach > > Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:27:37 + Jonathan Riddell ha scritto: > Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to deploy. You can log > into the running container fine and twiddle as needed. Only if you know what's inside. I would not trust a "docker pull" without knowing how the

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Andrew Crouthamel
Thank you for that link, that was an interesting read. I am heartily in favor of migrating discussion to Discourse. The features page has a good breakdown of why one would use it over phpBB, so there is no need to reiterate that here. But I would like to offer my observations as a relatively

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Rubén Gómez Antolí
Hi all, El 29/10/18 a las 23:27, Jonathan Riddell escribió: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca Beltrame wrote: [...] >> Does Discourse have a mail interface to avoid breaking user workflows? >> How should a migration be handled? Don't forget we'll lose distributed >> archiving of the mailing

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 0:28 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca Beltrame wrote: > > - As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker. > > This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach > > Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Jonathan Riddell
More information on Fedora use experience, the graphs are impressive for those who think it's important to keep people in KDE https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html Jonathan On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 18:32, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > Discourse is modern

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 20:56, Luca Beltrame wrote: > - As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker. > This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach Seems like a perfectly sensible and modern way to deploy. You can log into the running container fine and twiddle as

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread David Wright
Why not use bbpress / buddypress as the main websites are now powered by WordPress I believe? You can import too: https://codex.bbpress.org/getting-started/importing-data/import-forums/ On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 20:56 Luca Beltrame, wrote: > Il giorno Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:31:54 + > Jonathan

Re: Discourse

2018-10-29 Thread Jacky Alcine
This would be really cool. I do use the forums a lot but navigating them (if youre not familiar with phpbb) can be tricky. Discourse is a bit more intuitive. On Monday, October 29, 2018 11:31:54 AM PDT Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Discourse is modern forum and mailing list software. Examples at