KR> KR progress report.

[Alastair Hawkins]

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On June 12, 2016 6:33:16 PM Mike Sylvester via KRnet  
wrote:

> So darn close I'm already getting that KR grin [?] . I've started the 
> painting process and will be taking a week off to try to get her finished 
> by the end of the month. With that being said, I have a 1966 Cessna 150 in 
> great condition that needs a new home, I need the hanger space. More 
> updates to come.
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
>
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KR> KR progress report.

[Mike Sylvester]

So darn close I'm already getting that KR grin [?] . I've started the painting 
process and will be taking a week off to try to get her finished by the end of 
the month. With that being said, I have a 1966 Cessna 150 in great condition 
that needs a new home, I need the hanger space. More updates to come.


Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854
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KR> Progress report

[Paul Visk]

Nice report Robert. ?See you in September.?
Paul Visk ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Belleville Il 
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Hello everyone,Just a little update on N863RK. Yesterday I finish the 
installation on my oil cooler, flying my kr2 the winter months the oil 
temperature would stay below 200 ?But as the weather is getting warmer I 
noticed the temperature would raise up above 220 degrees

KR> Progress report

[Robert Pesak]

Hello everyone,Just a little update on N863RK. Yesterday I finish the 
installation on my oil cooler, flying my kr2 the winter months the oil 
temperature would stay below 200 ?But as the weather is getting warmer I 
noticed the temperature would raise up above 220 degrees . So I figured the 
only option was to install an oil cooler. Today I took it for about an hour 
flight and at one point I had the Continental breathing hard for about 35 
minutes and the temperature never ?got above 175 degrees so the installation 
was a success. The only other information I have is, a cruise at about a 
hundred and forty-five miles an hour that's about all she will do so if all you 
Builders out there remember one very important thing, build it light. Don't 
turn a 550 pound airplane into an 850 pounder.Please don't get me wrong,flying 
a KR 140 145 miles an hour is not bad at all I've got a hundred hours on it now 
with no problems.The icing on the cake will be flying N863RK to the 2016 
Gathering see you all there.

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KR> KR progress report.

[pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au]

Photos?

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Hey Guys, Just put in another day of cowl shaping. Have I ever mentioned how 
much I have grown to hate sanding, be it shaping foam or the final cosmetic 
sanding ? But on a good note, It's looking pretty darn good this time around. 

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

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KR> KR progress report.

[Mike Sylvester]

Hey Guys, Just put in another day of cowl shaping. Have I ever mentioned how 
much I have grown to hate sanding, be it shaping foam or the final cosmetic 
sanding ? But on a good note, It's looking pretty darn good this time around. 

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854  

KR> Progress Report

[sean duggan]

Hello KRnet,

I am now pleased to report that the new fuselage sides on my KR2S are complete. 
Pics can be seen here, http://n394ja.com/?p=326

If you don't remember, I posted a few months back that all four of my fuse 
longerons cracked when I bent the fuselage to shape. I worked through the 
possibility of repairing them, but in the end decided to scrap all of my work 
and rebuild.
This time around I soaked my longerons and bent them to shape. After the spruce 
dried, I built the rest of the truss in its final shape. I will say that this 
was a little more labor intensive than I wanted, but there will be no crackage!

This will be the last bit of progress for a while as I will be moving in a 
week. I am going to be living in Savannah, GA. 

Is there anybody up in that area?

Sean Duggan

Vero Beach, FL
KR2S - http://n394ja.com/

KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[Charles Smiith]

Are the longerons already glued to the skins?  If so, why not just reinforce 
the sections in question with 2 or 3 layers of 6 oz fiberglass, wrapping the 
glass fibers over the section at a 45 degree angle and onto the skin about an 
inch.  Cover the longeron in this manner about 6? on each side of the damage.  
If you have it, it would help to underlay the glass with some carbon fiber. 

KR> Progress Report Victor Taylor

[velocityo...@yahoo.com]

Hello KR Addicts,
I just removed the right aileron for final finishing and balance. It's getting 
there. Unfortunately I have to head back to work tonight unexpectedly so it's 
not going to get the progress that I had hoped for this time. One part at a 
time is still progress. 
Victor
Irvington, Alabama 

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KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[Pete Klapp]

Netters
When I was building the boat for my KR-2S, I first fabricated the side truss 
sections as detailed in the plans, although mine are longer since I used all 
14' of the longeron material rather than cutting them to 12'-2" per plan. When 
it came to installing the mahogany ply, I first set up a series of temporary 
vertical 1/2" bulkheads centered along a centerline on the work table. They 
were the width that the fuselage would be at that specific point. They were 
positioned to meet the trusses at station points along the trusses. I then 
prepared the skins, scarfing the joints as needed, marked the truss outline on 
the ply skins, applied the epoxy and stapled them in place as detailed in the 
instructions. I then clamped the truss / ply skin assemblies to the temporary 
bulkheads while the epoxy was still wet and allowed to cure. They were easily 
pulled into position using Pony pipe clamps along the curve edge of the truss 
and blocks and wedges along the straight edge (top of the truss) which is down 
against the flat surface of the work table. When done, they had the curve 
already in them. By doing it this way, you don't have the stress of the 5/8" 
longeron fighting the skin when you try to shape the fuselage. I must also 
point out that I built my fuselage with vertical sides, but I'm pretty sure you 
could use this method when building the "banana" style fuselage as well. 
Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK,
Canton, OH
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> Subject: Re: KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story
> From: gun...@online.no
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:57:47 +0200
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Sorry, but I don't have a good solution for replacing the longerons, but I 
> can show you why you have the cracks in the place you have them. > >  
>

KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[Fred Johnson]

Gunnar,

Awesome work in solid works. I only have AutoCAD, and I can only do 2d
drawings right now.





Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



Gunnar wrote:

Sorry, but I don't have a good solution for replacing the longerons, but I
can show you why you have the cracks in the place you have them. If you look
at the two bottom images on this side http://go-design.no/images2.html, you
can see that the curvature on the original drawings is high in exact that
area. I have tried to smooth that out on my redesigned KR. One builder in
Norway have used the new dimensions without problems.

KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[Gunnar Olsen]

Sorry, but I don't have a good solution for replacing the longerons, but I can 
show you why you have the cracks in the place you have them. If you look at the 
two bottom images on this side http://go-design.no/images2.html, you can see 
that the curvature on the original drawings is high in exact that area. I have 
tried to smooth that out on my redesigned KR. One builder in Norway have used 
the new dimensions without problems.

Gunnar
Siljan, Norway

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Den 19. juli 2011 kl. 05:14 skrev sean duggan :

> It's good to see some progress being made by fellow builders. I'd like to 
> contribute to the progress reports with my update.  Today I managed to flip 
> the 
> "boat," and unfortunately, I will be adding to the list of cracked longeron 
> stories : (.
> 
> Upon inspection of my boat structure, I found 5 cracks! Two cracks in one 
> longeron and one in each of the rest. They all reside in the bay directly 
> behind 
> the aft spar. I already knew that this could be an issue after seeing the 
> problems run into by other builders. The cracks in the upper longerons seem 
> reasonable to repair, a splice joint like the one shown in Darren Crompton's 
> build log should fix the problem. It is the lower longerons that have me 
> worried. 
> 
> 
> Since the lower longerons are already glued on two sides to plywood, I have 
> no 
> idea how I will cut out a section for replacement. Also, the area that these 
> cracks occur are in close proximity to a vertical stiffener. Too close to get 
> the proper splice length.
> 
> So at this point what are my options? 
> 
> -Attempt repairs and hope for some luck on the bottom longerons?
> -Cut my losses and start a new boat. (I've only used about $900 worth of wood 
> and glue and spent 100hrs building)?
> -Look for someone selling a boat, toss mine and continue forward...
> 
> Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated. My motivation is dwindling. 
> 
> Some photos are updated on my site.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sean Duggan
> Vero Beach, FL
> KR2S - http://n394ja.com/
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KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[stef...@kpnmail.nl]

Hi Sean,
You are in bad luck. I understand were you foundation your cracks. Check on my 
site at THE page extending fuselage. There you Will see hoe we did extending 
THE hole aft de tai of the boat. I think you can take onebay of THE bottum out 
and one on The side. Now you can splice you longaron. Maybey you can only take 
the crack out and do not cut The hole longaron. Chamfer THE damage earea to 1 / 
20 , and put a new pece of wood in it.

Good luck
Stef




Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2



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Verzonden: di 19-7-2011 5:14
Aan: kr...@mylist.net
Onderwerp: KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

It's good to see some progress being made by fellow builders. I'd like to 
contribute to the progress reports with my update.  Today I managed to flip the 
"boat," and unfortunately, I will be adding to the list of cracked longeron 
stories : (.

Upon inspection of my boat structure, I found 5 cracks! Two cracks in one 
longeron and one in each of the rest. They all reside in the bay directly 
behind 
the aft spar. I already knew that this could be an issue after seeing the 
problems run into by other builders. The cracks in the upper longerons seem 
reasonable to repair, a splice joint like the one shown in Darren Crompton's 
build log should fix the problem. It is the lower longerons that have me 
worried. 


Since the lower longerons are already glued on two sides to plywood, I have no 
idea how I will cut out a section for replacement. Also, the area that these 
cracks occur are in close proximity to a vertical stiffener. Too close to get 
the proper splice length.

So at this point what are my options? 

-Attempt repairs and hope for some luck on the bottom longerons?
-Cut my losses and start a new boat. (I've only used about $900 worth of wood 
and glue and spent 100hrs building)?
-Look for someone selling a boat, toss mine and continue forward...

Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated. My motivation is dwindling. 

Some photos are updated on my site.

Thanks!

Sean Duggan
Vero Beach, FL
KR2S - http://n394ja.com/
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KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story

[sean duggan]

It's good to see some progress being made by fellow builders. I'd like to 
contribute to the progress reports with my update.  Today I managed to flip the 
"boat," and unfortunately, I will be adding to the list of cracked longeron 
stories : (.

Upon inspection of my boat structure, I found 5 cracks! Two cracks in one 
longeron and one in each of the rest. They all reside in the bay directly 
behind 
the aft spar. I already knew that this could be an issue after seeing the 
problems run into by other builders. The cracks in the upper longerons seem 
reasonable to repair, a splice joint like the one shown in Darren Crompton's 
build log should fix the problem. It is the lower longerons that have me 
worried. 


Since the lower longerons are already glued on two sides to plywood, I have no 
idea how I will cut out a section for replacement. Also, the area that these 
cracks occur are in close proximity to a vertical stiffener. Too close to get 
the proper splice length.

So at this point what are my options? 

-Attempt repairs and hope for some luck on the bottom longerons?
-Cut my losses and start a new boat. (I've only used about $900 worth of wood 
and glue and spent 100hrs building)?
-Look for someone selling a boat, toss mine and continue forward...

Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated. My motivation is dwindling. 

Some photos are updated on my site.

Thanks!

Sean Duggan
Vero Beach, FL
KR2S - http://n394ja.com/

KR> progress report.

[MICHAEL SYLVESTER]

Hey guys, I have completed the stub wings with fuel tanks and controls in 
place. Starting next week, I will be off until after the first of the New Year 
and plan to make a  major assault on the outer wings. Since I do not plan to 
carry any fuel in the outer wings, I am going to build per plans (no glass on 
the inside). Any tips or things that you would not do again, if you were to do 
it again ?

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

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KR> Progress Report

[Larry Flesner]

>
>My current trade is as a scheduler and my wife shamed me into doing a
>schedule
>for the KR. If all goes according to plans I should be Test flying next
>June.
>Most of the things left to do are already 80% done . just need finishing
>off.
>Paul Smith



If you don't finish by next June, don't start to question your 
professional ability as a scheduler.  My target was five years and it 
took me thirteen !   But then, I'm not a scheduler by trade. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> Progress Report

[Paul & Karen Smith]

Hi Guys, well I feel I've turned the corner and am on the home straight.
Flipped KRZ back onto her wheels after a couple of months modifying the
belly
and adding flaps to the stub wings (see my blog). While the flaps are not
100% done they are close enough for now and I needed to have it right side
up to start the remaining big ticket items.

I've launched into the final shaping of the engine cowl and will soon pull a
mould off the cuvy plug I've been making (history of this is also on the
blog).

My current trade is as a scheduler and my wife shamed me into doing a
schedule
for the KR. If all goes according to plans I should be Test flying next
June.
Most of the things left to do are already 80% done . just need finishing
off.

Things still to do:
*   Finish the Cowl and plenums
*   Finish the Fwd Deck (including a locker instead of a header tank
*   Finish the Turtle Deck
*   Finish the Wings
*   Build the Instrument panel
*   Finish the fuel & elec systems

Paul Smith
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/

KR> Progress report

[Neal Hornung]

Just an update on some work on my KR2.  I've spent right at 22 hours in the 
last three days working on it.  I installed some turnbuckles into the cables 
for the tailwheel so I can adjust the tension independently from the rudder 
cables even though they are interconnected.  Also started work on a new 
cowling.  I had one made but didn't like the way it turned out so I'm doing it 
again.  Bet none of you have ever had to make a part twice.yeah right!  
Anyway, if you are on the krnet.org, click on my link to see the latest 
pictures of the cowling in progress.  

I also taxied the fuselage around last Sunday after making a new control arm 
for the carburetor.  Now it runs like the proverbial raped ape and when I was 
taxiing I swear that if I'd given it full throttle it might have flown without 
the wings.  Man did it take off across the ramp.  It was about 8:15 in the 
evening and no one else was at the airport and the ramp was empty so I thought, 
why not?  

Keep all of the updates coming on the net.  They make for interesting reading 
and make me want to get done just that much sooner.  


Neal Hornung
lt1corve...@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.

KR> Progress Report

[Glenn Martin]

Brad Ankerstar wrote:
> Netters,
>
> The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030 today, 
> August 21st.  Since I am a super senior with a 
Brad. 1974 was the very same year I began my career in electronics. This 
year I am beginning the rebuilding Of My own KR2 # N1333A.. Your  
perseverence is an inspiration! I'll be posting your Email on the wall 
next to the plans as a reminder:  NEVER QUIT!  If you ever decide to fly 
her down to the Mississippi gulf coast or New Orleans, look me up!

-- 
Glenn Martin
Owner KR2 N1333A
Martek Mississippi
13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> Progress Report

[Eric Klee]

I guess that is what is called perseverance.  Great to hear Brad.  You can 
honestly tell people its 35 years old and flies like new.  Stay safe.

Eric Klee
Tampa, Florida
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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Progress Report



On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:34:42 -0400 "Brad Ankerstar"
<ankerst...@embarqmail.com> writes:
> Netters,
>
> The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030
> today, August 21st.

Congratulations Brad!  That is a huge accomplishment and you get the
prize for persistance with a 35 years construction project.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

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KR> Progress Report

[Phillip Matheson]

Sorry did not mean to leave the message at the end of my last email.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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KR> Progress Report

[Phillip Matheson]

Brad
Fantastic effort.
You are an inspiration to everyone, 1974 WOW.
SEE you guys, you just have to keep at it.

Just like eating and elephant, little bits at a time

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:34 AM
Subject: KR> Progress Report


Netters,

The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030 today, 
August 21st.  Since I am a super senior with a retractable gear, tail 
dragger,  I'm having some significant insurance issues.  With a little more 
tail dragger experience, I may have to do the testing myself:  When I'm 
comfortable.  Maybe after a few hours in type, insurance will be available.

Flying to Mt Vernon this year is highly unlikely, but count me in for 2010, 
wherever we go.

Mark, please move me from project to completed on the web site.

Brad Ankerstar, SW Ohio
N774A, KR2R (KHAO)
ankerst...@embarqmail.com
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KR> Progress Report

[jscott.pi...@juno.com]

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:34:42 -0400 "Brad Ankerstar"
 writes:
> Netters,
> 
> The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030 
> today, August 21st.  

Congratulations Brad!  That is a huge accomplishment and you get the
prize for persistance with a 35 years construction project.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM 

Under $100/mo with AT
Bundle 3 services and save! Home phone, internet & wireless or TV
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=umSGinQFPPfBbrr5aY9IFgAAJ1A9mk8a0luj1TJO2sh3zRLgAAQFAOf7KT0ACRcXAA==

KR> Progress Report

[Fred Johnson]

Way to go Brad! Glad to here we have another KR that is airworthy!

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV


Brad wrote:

The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030 today,
August 21st.  

KR> Progress Report

[Brad Ankerstar]

Netters,

The project I started on July 31st, 1974 became an airplane at 1030 today, 
August 21st.  Since I am a super senior with a retractable gear, tail dragger,  
I'm having some significant insurance issues.  With a little more tail dragger 
experience, I may have to do the testing myself:  When I'm comfortable.  Maybe 
after a few hours in type, insurance will be available.

Flying to Mt Vernon this year is highly unlikely, but count me in for 2010, 
wherever we go.

Mark, please move me from project to completed on the web site.

Brad Ankerstar, SW Ohio
N774A, KR2R (KHAO)
ankerst...@embarqmail.com

KR> Progress Report

[Dan Heath]

Thanks, Mine is metal to metal, but the camber was metal to glass and that
is where I already put the flox, so I should be good to go with that  now.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:25 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Hi Dan

I have fibreglass legs and my axle stubs bolt directly to the legs.
Therefore the shims may squash into (wear into) the leg so I put flox behind
the axle to give a better mating surface.  If I was bolting metal to metal I
would not waste my time with flox (the automotive industry has been shimming
wheel alignments for decades with great success :-)

Regards
Barry

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 7:25 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Barry,

I did the flox on my camber, and am doing the caster, but am wondering if
the flox is really necessary.  I know it makes a nice full shim, but it runs
all over the place while it is curing.  I thought I had just dreamed this up
and was the only one doing it.  Do you know if this is an accepted method,
and what the flox contributes to the process?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


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KR> Progress Report

[Barry Kruyssen]

Hi Dan

I have fibreglass legs and my axle stubs bolt directly to the legs.
Therefore the shims may squash into (wear into) the leg so I put flox behind
the axle to give a better mating surface.  If I was bolting metal to metal I
would not waste my time with flox (the automotive industry has been shimming
wheel alignments for decades with great success :-)

Regards
Barry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 7:25 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Barry,

I did the flox on my camber, and am doing the caster, but am wondering if
the flox is really necessary.  I know it makes a nice full shim, but it runs
all over the place while it is curing.  I thought I had just dreamed this up
and was the only one doing it.  Do you know if this is an accepted method,
and what the flox contributes to the process?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Progress Report

[Dan Heath]

Barry,

I did the flox on my camber, and am doing the caster, but am wondering if
the flox is really necessary.  I know it makes a nice full shim, but it runs
all over the place while it is curing.  I thought I had just dreamed this up
and was the only one doing it.  Do you know if this is an accepted method,
and what the flox contributes to the process?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:44 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Hi Dan

When I crashed 2.5 years ago I drove my undercarriage backwards and up
through my new wing stub fuel tanks.  So along with repairing fuel tanks the
undercarriage was also replaced. 

Both my wheels are currently toed in too much and way too much camber.  I'll
just use horse shoe shaped shim washers under the bolds to adjust each axle
to get it right and then take the axles off, cotton flox behind them and bot
it all back together with thew shims.  Last time it took me about 3 hours to
do both wheels.  Before I start, most importantly, I need to get the wings
on, 50% of fuel onboard and weight up the pilot seat to my 85kg to make the
suspension spread as it would under average normal load, then do the wheel
alignment.

As for my Jabiru J160, it has the same 2200 engine as my KR2, flies very
nicely (it is nice to sit out of the sun every once in a while), enormous
baggage compartment, 130 litres of fuel in the wet wings. It's no KR2, it's
more like the family car. I bought it to go touring in. We have no over
heating problems with the engine.


Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia




-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:47 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Barry,

You make "wheel alignment" seem so casual.  I am doing that now on my KR as
I found one side to be very toe out.  I don't find it a simple thing to do.
Also, why do you need to do this?  You had your plane flying some time ago,
did you not?

What did you think of the Jab as an airplane?  Have they fixed the cooling
problems with that engine?



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KR> Progress Report

[Barry Kruyssen]

Hi Dan

When I crashed 2.5 years ago I drove my undercarriage backwards and up
through my new wing stub fuel tanks.  So along with repairing fuel tanks the
undercarriage was also replaced. 

Both my wheels are currently toed in too much and way too much camber.  I'll
just use horse shoe shaped shim washers under the bolds to adjust each axle
to get it right and then take the axles off, cotton flox behind them and bot
it all back together with thew shims.  Last time it took me about 3 hours to
do both wheels.  Before I start, most importantly, I need to get the wings
on, 50% of fuel onboard and weight up the pilot seat to my 85kg to make the
suspension spread as it would under average normal load, then do the wheel
alignment.

As for my Jabiru J160, it has the same 2200 engine as my KR2, flies very
nicely (it is nice to sit out of the sun every once in a while), enormous
baggage compartment, 130 litres of fuel in the wet wings. It's no KR2, it's
more like the family car. I bought it to go touring in. We have no over
heating problems with the engine.


Regards

Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia




-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:47 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Barry,

You make "wheel alignment" seem so casual.  I am doing that now on my KR as
I found one side to be very toe out.  I don't find it a simple thing to do.
Also, why do you need to do this?  You had your plane flying some time ago,
did you not?

What did you think of the Jab as an airplane?  Have they fixed the cooling
problems with that engine?

KR> Progress Report

[virg...@bellsouth.net]

Glenn Martin wrote:

WOW, Tail and nose dragger. What a hoot. I know that you wll
be proud of yourself for the accomplishment. Best of luck , Virg




> To all my furry flying friends:
> Just a progress update for all of you. Today I passed my pre-solo 
> written test. I did very well . It even surprised me. It took a great 
> deal of study time, but it is another confidence builder, and milestone 
> on the way. My CFI Andy seems to be pleased also. It took a while to get 
> over the first plateau in flight training, but it appears I'm now on 
> another upward part of the learning curve. I am training in  a 172 on 
> Mondays and Thursdays, and in a 140 on Fridays. Its been quite a 
> workload, but I feel good knowing at the end of the road I'll be able to 
> do tailwheel AND tri-gear. It also offers me an option to make N1333a a 
> taildragger, which I am seriously considering. I believe that my first 
> solo flight  is imminent, and to be honest..It really gives me the 
> jitters! But I'm certain that I'll be able to talk myself into a 
> reasonable calm state just prior to my first solo landing (think Slim 
> Pickens in Dr Strangelove!!!). So put your hard hats on, and steer clear 
> of Gulfport/Biloxi International for the next few weeks. Next update 
> when it happens!
>
>   

KR> Progress Report

[Dan Heath]

Barry,

You make "wheel alignment" seem so casual.  I am doing that now on my KR as
I found one side to be very toe out.  I don't find it a simple thing to do.
Also, why do you need to do this?  You had your plane flying some time ago,
did you not?

What did you think of the Jab as an airplane?  Have they fixed the cooling
problems with that engine?

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:11 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report

Talk about learning something every flight.  I just bought a Jabiru J160
aircraft in partnership with Dave, a 65 year old ex-ag
pilot/instructor(15000 hours) who has not flown much in the last 20 years
(only about 8 hours). We went for our first joint cross country flight last
Saturday and I thought could fly smooth (I am a gliding instructor, 600+
hours) till Dave took over the controls. Man was he smooth after about 10
minutes of flying. So much to learn, I am truly humbled.

Sunday I put the final coat of paint on the wings and cowl.  Now just put on
the rego stickers, fit the prop, oil overflow tank, radio and it's off to
the airport. Assemble and wheel align then back in the air. :-)


Regards


Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia


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From: krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net] On Behalf Of M Blank
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 1:36 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report


Something I will never forget as long as I live, when I made my first solo
flight, I was scared stiff, until the wheels left the ground. Once the
wheels left the ground I knew in my heart I HAD to land that airplane, no
jitters, nothing, just me and the O-200 purrin along. I went around the
pattern and lined up on the 1700 foot long island and landed just fine. You
will do just fine, remember, you've came this far, you are already a pilot.
Some think that once they get the ticket they no longer have anything to
learn, THEY ARE WRONG! I learn something on every flight, even if it is
something small, I am still learning and have been flying since 1996. 


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KR> Progress Report

[Barry Kruyssen]

Talk about learning something every flight.  I just bought a Jabiru J160
aircraft in partnership with Dave, a 65 year old ex-ag
pilot/instructor(15000 hours) who has not flown much in the last 20 years
(only about 8 hours). We went for our first joint cross country flight last
Saturday and I thought could fly smooth (I am a gliding instructor, 600+
hours) till Dave took over the controls. Man was he smooth after about 10
minutes of flying. So much to learn, I am truly humbled.

Sunday I put the final coat of paint on the wings and cowl.  Now just put on
the rego stickers, fit the prop, oil overflow tank, radio and it's off to
the airport. Assemble and wheel align then back in the air. :-)


Regards


Barry Kruyssen
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2
RAA registered 19-3873
Australia


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From: krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+kr2=bigpond@mylist.net] On Behalf Of M Blank
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 1:36 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Progress Report


Something I will never forget as long as I live, when I made my first solo
flight, I was scared stiff, until the wheels left the ground. Once the
wheels left the ground I knew in my heart I HAD to land that airplane, no
jitters, nothing, just me and the O-200 purrin along. I went around the
pattern and lined up on the 1700 foot long island and landed just fine. You
will do just fine, remember, you've came this far, you are already a pilot.
Some think that once they get the ticket they no longer have anything to
learn, THEY ARE WRONG! I learn something on every flight, even if it is
something small, I am still learning and have been flying since 1996. 

KR> Progress Report

[M Blank]

Something I will never forget as long as I live, when I made my first solo 
flight, I was scared stiff, until the wheels left the ground. Once the wheels 
left the ground I knew in my heart I HAD to land that airplane, no jitters, 
nothing, just me and the O-200 purrin along. I went around the pattern and 
lined up on the 1700 foot long island and landed just fine. You will do just 
fine, remember, you've came this far, you are already a pilot. Some think that 
once they get the ticket they no longer have anything to learn, THEY ARE WRONG! 
I learn something on every flight, even if it is something small, I am still 
learning and have been flying since 1996. 



Mike in Tn, Kr2S in the garage

> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:13:32 -0500
> From: rep...@martekmississippi.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Progress Report
> 
> To all my furry flying friends:
> Just a progress update for all of you. Today I passed my pre-solo 
> written test. I did very well . It even surprised me. It took a great 
> deal of study time, but it is another confidence builder, and milestone 
> on the way. My CFI Andy seems to be pleased also. It took a while to get 
> over the first plateau in flight training, but it appears I'm now on 
> another upward part of the learning curve. I am training in a 172 on 
> Mondays and Thursdays, and in a 140 on Fridays. Its been quite a 
> workload, but I feel good knowing at the end of the road I'll be able to 
> do tailwheel AND tri-gear. It also offers me an option to make N1333a a 
> taildragger, which I am seriously considering. I believe that my first 
> solo flight is imminent, and to be honest..It really gives me the 
> jitters! But I'm certain that I'll be able to talk myself into a 
> reasonable calm state just prior to my first solo landing (think Slim 
> Pickens in Dr Strangelove!!!). So put your hard hats on, and steer clear 
> of Gulfport/Biloxi International for the next few weeks. Next update 
> when it happens!
> 
> -- 
> Glenn Martin
> Owner
> KR2 N1333A
> Biloxi, MS, 39532
> rep...@martekmississippi.com
> 
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KR> Progress Report

[Glenn Martin]

To all my furry flying friends:
Just a progress update for all of you. Today I passed my pre-solo 
written test. I did very well . It even surprised me. It took a great 
deal of study time, but it is another confidence builder, and milestone 
on the way. My CFI Andy seems to be pleased also. It took a while to get 
over the first plateau in flight training, but it appears I'm now on 
another upward part of the learning curve. I am training in  a 172 on 
Mondays and Thursdays, and in a 140 on Fridays. Its been quite a 
workload, but I feel good knowing at the end of the road I'll be able to 
do tailwheel AND tri-gear. It also offers me an option to make N1333a a 
taildragger, which I am seriously considering. I believe that my first 
solo flight  is imminent, and to be honest..It really gives me the 
jitters! But I'm certain that I'll be able to talk myself into a 
reasonable calm state just prior to my first solo landing (think Slim 
Pickens in Dr Strangelove!!!). So put your hard hats on, and steer clear 
of Gulfport/Biloxi International for the next few weeks. Next update 
when it happens!

-- 
Glenn Martin
Owner
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> progress report

[Larry Flesner]

At 12:10 AM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
>Progress report:
>In November 2005 I took my KR2 off line to do 8 weeks work to add a belly
>board, modify the undercarriage and add extra fuel tanks in the wing stubs.
>Barry Kruyssen

++

I will be anxious to hear what you think of the belly board the next
time you fly.  Make sure to report back after your flight.  What is
the size of your belly board and what angle will it deploy to?

Larry Flesner

KR> progress report

[bo...@hatconversions.com]

Barry,
 Did you remove the retracts? The ugly bird here has retracts with a
belly board. Give us some specifics on yours.  Bobby

> At 12:10 AM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
>>Progress report:
>>In November 2005 I took my KR2 off line to do 8 weeks work to add a belly
>>board, modify the undercarriage and add extra fuel tanks in the wing
>> stubs.
>>Barry Kruyssen
>
> ++
>
> I will be anxious to hear what you think of the belly board the next
> time you fly.  Make sure to report back after your flight.  What is
> the size of your belly board and what angle will it deploy to?
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
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KR> Progress report – KR2 « Kilimanjaro Cloud »

[Serge VIDAL]

I have kept so quiet lately that some of you may think I'm dead, or worse, 
that I have given up building. Well, not so. In fact, although I haven't 
seen my plane for nearly 4 months, I managed to do a few things at home. I 
also received a much awaited parcel from Aircraft Spruce, which contains 
everything I need to complete the overhaul, so I'm running short of 
excuses not to complete the rebuild project this year.

I will not be ready to rebuild until I complete the new wing ribs,  to 
replace the ones I have destroyed in order to remove the WAFs. But in the 
meantime, I concentrated in making "ready-to-assemble kits" for all the 
parts to reassemble, neatly packed in transparent plastic bags. By making 
small kits ready to the last washer, I try to save time at the hangar. 
Since I have to travel for nearly two hours each time I go there, and 
week-ends are short, every minute counts. 

Here are some of the things I made:

- WAFs: I have resurfaced them all, and made two new ones (there was a 
pair of  WAFs which had an oversized bolt hole, and that offended my sense 
of uniformiy).
- Aileron bellcrank assemblies: I have resurfaced or rebuilt them entirely 
(I chose Alodine as the surface treatment, rather than Zinc chromate).
- Pulley brackets: I rebuilt them in accordance with the latest version of 
the drawings (which has much improved cable retainers).
- Tail section: I cut and installed an inspection hatch. 
- Tailwheel assembly: I have resurfaced the tailwheel blade, and redrilled 
the axle to a larger diameter to cope with tear (that sounds simple?).
- Tie down brackets: I have made a pair of L-shaped brackets that hold to 
the lower outer wing WAFs bolt. At the bottom of the bracket is a nutsert. 
The plan is that on the rare occasions when I will need I to tie down, I 
will screw some eye bolts to the brackets, through the wing skin.
- Control cables: These I have to change entirely, because the current 
ones are less than the specified diameter, and the local airworthiness 
authorities ain't going to like that. Here I tried to be smart. I ordered 
new ones with one end already swaged, so I will only have to Nicopress the 
other end.
- Cable ties holders: I prepared plenty by gluing my favourite type of 
plastic ones to a thin sheet of plywood. This way, I could get a nice bond 
in workshop conditions. So, they are now lined with plywood, and 
experience shows that it is way much easier, in hangar conditions, to glue 
plywood to plywood than soft plastic to plywood!. 
- Pitot /static tube: I rebuilt it, because the previous one was made of 
thin steel tube, which tended to rust no matter what I did, and weighted a 
dead horse, as we say in French. The new one is made of thin anodinized 
aluminium tubing, and looks pretty nice The difference is 150 grams, can 
you believe it?

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France 

KR>Progress report-reply

[Martindale Family]

snipit seems to settle in on 160 mph indicated.

Sounds quick Larry given the empty weight and big wheels. My aircraft is
comparable but the Corvair will only get me to about 130knots (150mph)
TAS.Like you I'm after more!!

Did you convert IAS to TAS before comparing with your GPS? If not your
results will vary dependent on altitude, QNH and temperature. Difference
between TAS and GPS is essentially the wind component.

It's been so bloody hot and low pressure in Aussie lately that at sea level
I've been recording a density height of 4500feetmakes a big difference
(say 15 knots) to TAS calcs and to engine performance.

Regards John.


The Martindale Family
29 Jane Circuit
TOORMINA NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

phone: 61 2 66584767
email: johnj...@chc.net.au
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From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 12:31 AM
Subject: KR>Progress report-reply


>
> >Larry, how big and how heavy?  This is a far cry from the 195 many are
said
> >to achieve.
> +
>
>
> My KR is a 24" stretch,  canopy raised for about 3" of head room
> for my 6'4" body, 30"Diehl gear legs with 600X6 wheels and
> brakes, and a 765 pound empty weight.  Also, no wheel pants
> at this time.  On a couple of short cross country legs yesterday
> .  That appears to
> be pretty close from what the GPS was reading out and allowing
> for the wind.  I think I'll see about 170 mph cruise at 2500 rpm
> when it's all said and done.
>
> Some of those 190+ mph speeds you hear about from other
> 0-200 powered KR's are for KR's pretty close to plan
> size and pulling 2700 - 2950 rpm.  It's not hard to achieve
> but I'm happy with the size airplane I've got and the performance
> I'm getting.  The same engine pulled the C-150 along at a
> blistering 110 mph !!  I'm not going to chop on the prop any more
> until I get wheel pants and see if the extra speed lets the
> rpm come up a bit.  After the 40 hours I may decide to re-do
> the engine by having the jugs rebuilt, rebuild or new cam and
> lower end bearings, etc.
>
> Thanks to everyone that replied, on the net and personally, with
> birthday wishes and congratulations.  I turned out to be a
> wonderful day.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR>Progress report-reply

[larry flesner]

>Sounds quick Larry given the empty weight and big wheels. My aircraft is
>comparable but the Corvair will only get me to about 130knots (150mph)
>TAS.Like you I'm after more!!
>
>Did you convert IAS to TAS before comparing with your GPS? If not your
>results will vary dependent on altitude, QNH and temperature. Difference
>between TAS and GPS is essentially the wind component.
>Regards John.


I just looked at the ASI and then at the GPS.  That was the
extent of my conversion.  Then I'd look back out the window
and see the landscape flying by and grin real big.  :-)

I replaced my oil quick drain yesterday with a plug to see
if that takes care of the oil on the belly.  I don't work till 
mid afternoon and we have a great day with clear skies and
0 wind so I'm going to try to get two or three hours on the
KR.  I'll see if I can work up the nerve to try those slips
again and get a better idea of what's going on there.  I think
I'll do some testing with the speed brake and try to get some
numbers on that also.

Larry Flesner

KR>Progress report-reply

[Dana Overall]

Larry, just thinking out loud on your wing drop.

Are you applying back pressure and raising the nose any during the slip?  A 
combination of slip and nose high pitch can produce a momentary loss of 
rudder authority.  Though not a prevalent event, it can occur.  A good way 
to determine if this is present is at the moment of wing drop, see if there 
is a momentary corresponding yaw opposite of rudder deflection.

It probably is not there as this usually happens at a very high 
uncoordinated pitch angle and then it has to be the right combination of 
fuselage design, rudder size, speed, etc. etc.



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1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39
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KR>Progress report (long)

[larry flesner]

(Written Friday PM - mail server down)

Netters,

MY KR IS BACK IN THE AIR !!!  Who says 
Friday the 13th is unlucky?

Tank leak:  I seem to have the leak fixed in the left tank.  I took
the wing home, cut open the bottom of the wing from the
48 inch rib to the 36 inch rib and 12 inches behind the forward
spar.  I then removed the foam and exposed the entire bottom
of the tank.  I ended up cutting out the bottom of the tank, doing
some re-sealing work and then re-attaching the bottom.  I replaced
the removed foam, sanded to shape, glassed and finished the
wing skin through primer.  I also had a small area on the top of
the wing I had to close back up and re-skin.  It held gas for 2 hours
with the tank bottom and one end exposed with no visible signs
of dampness or leaks.  That's when I drained the fuel and closed
up the wing.  I managed all this while going through a bout with
the flu.  Bed rest for a day, work on the wing for a couple of hours,
back to bed for a day, work on the wing,  bed rest,  part time
at the laundry, bed rest, work on the wing,  and on and on.

Prop:  The 4 inches of pitch that Ed Sterba took off the prop seems
to have made little if any difference.  I'm still pulling about 2300
static and 2500 at flat out cruise.  I'm not going to make any more
changes to the prop at this time and get some hours on the engine.
It is a high time engine and may be a bit weak.  I don't want to take
too much off the prop just in case.  The prop is a 60" X 68" and was
repitched to a 60" X 64".  

Speeds:  I replaced my "KPH" ASI with a "SMPH" ASI.  Flat out
cruise I'm seeing between 150 and 160 depending on how 
straight and level I hold it and for how long.  I'm tending not
to do any long straight and level runs just yet, more turns, climbs,
slow flight, etc.  Also, I still don't have wheel pants on those 30"
Diehl gear legs with the 600X6 wheels and brakes hanging out
in the breese.  At 2500? rpm I'm only pulling maybe 85 hp out
of the engine also so I look to get another 10 mph or so at some
point which should give me a strong 160mph+ cruise.  Remember,
I do have a big (and heavy) KR.


Handling:  I'm actually starting to move the control stick in flight now.:-)
I'm getting more aggressive with ailerons, stick, and rudder and
exploring some of the yet unknown areas of handling.  I flew a bit
deeper into the stall also and it is very gentle.  On the first attempt
the ASI was bouncing on the peg at 40MPH when I felt a slight
buffeting (I think) and the left wing did a gentle drop of about 20
degrees.  The KR was flying again as soon as I released back
pressure.  I flew right back into the second stall and this time
the right wing dropped first, a little quicker and maybe to 30 degrees
or so.  Again the KR was flying  as soon as I released back pressure.
With it breaking left on the first stall and right on the second stall
I'm inclined to think maybe I didn't have the ball centered either or
both times.  I'll try it again and watch for more clues.

Slips:  My first real surprise, and I must admit the first time I've 
puckered real hard and real quick, was when I tried a couple of
slips.  Holding about 80mph indicated I kicked some left wing
down and right rudder for a side slip.  At about 20 degrees wing
down and 15+ degrees nose right the nose did a rather quick
nose down pitch of about 20 degrees. (or so it felt)  It caught me
by surprise and I neutralized the controls.  It came right out of the
slip.  I tried it again, not believing what just happened, and it did it
again.  Expecting it the second time, it felt to me as if at some 
point the elevator blanked out.  Any of you guys flying "standard"
KR's ever notice anything like that?  I'll check it out further and
keep you posted. I'll have to make sure I'm not doing something
with the controls to cause it. Everything I've ever heard is that KR's 
slip like a dream.  I'm glad I didn't try my first slip on a landing and
close to the ground.  It probably wouldn't have been a problem
but I'll bet it woud have scared the @#$%^&* out of me!  

Problems?  I noticed oil on the belly after the flight.  I'm guessing
it's coming from my oil quick drain which sticks out the bottom
of my cowl about 1/2".  I may put a solid plug in it tomorrow and
see if that is where the oil is coming from or if I need to look 
further.  

Speed brake:  I probably need to hook up some LED's or some kind
of indicator for my speed brake.  At least a full up and full down
LED.  Right now it's a bit of a guessing game.  I have limit switches
so I'm not loading it at either extreme but it would be nice to have
an indicator.  With 5 landings now I'm sure glad I installed it.  It
helps to stabilize the speed on landing and gives a bit better nose
down pitch for visibility.  I suspect it helps kill the float also but
I have yet to try a landing not using it.  Maybe tomorrow.  

Speaking of landings, this thing is AWSOME!  We won't discuss the
first land but the last four have been 

KR>Progress report (long)

[Mark Jones]

Larry that is an excellent reportjust gets my blood boiling. I just came
in from working on my KR to check e-mail and wow, now I have got to get back
to the garage. Larry, I am coming to join you

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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- Original Message - 
From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:52 AM
Subject: KR>Progress report (long)


>
> (Written Friday PM - mail server down)
>
> Netters,
>
> MY KR IS BACK IN THE AIR !!!  Who says
> Friday the 13th is unlucky?
>
> Tank leak:  I seem to have the leak fixed in the left tank.  I took
> the wing home, cut open the bottom of the wing from the
> 48 inch rib to the 36 inch rib and 12 inches behind the forward
> spar.  I then removed the foam and exposed the entire bottom
> of the tank.  I ended up cutting out the bottom of the tank, doing
> some re-sealing work and then re-attaching the bottom.  I replaced
> the removed foam, sanded to shape, glassed and finished the
> wing skin through primer.  I also had a small area on the top of
> the wing I had to close back up and re-skin.  It held gas for 2 hours
> with the tank bottom and one end exposed with no visible signs
> of dampness or leaks.  That's when I drained the fuel and closed
> up the wing.  I managed all this while going through a bout with
> the flu.  Bed rest for a day, work on the wing for a couple of hours,
> back to bed for a day, work on the wing,  bed rest,  part time
> at the laundry, bed rest, work on the wing,  and on and on.
>
> Prop:  The 4 inches of pitch that Ed Sterba took off the prop seems
> to have made little if any difference.  I'm still pulling about 2300
> static and 2500 at flat out cruise.  I'm not going to make any more
> changes to the prop at this time and get some hours on the engine.
> It is a high time engine and may be a bit weak.  I don't want to take
> too much off the prop just in case.  The prop is a 60" X 68" and was
> repitched to a 60" X 64".
>
> Speeds:  I replaced my "KPH" ASI with a "SMPH" ASI.  Flat out
> cruise I'm seeing between 150 and 160 depending on how
> straight and level I hold it and for how long.  I'm tending not
> to do any long straight and level runs just yet, more turns, climbs,
> slow flight, etc.  Also, I still don't have wheel pants on those 30"
> Diehl gear legs with the 600X6 wheels and brakes hanging out
> in the breese.  At 2500? rpm I'm only pulling maybe 85 hp out
> of the engine also so I look to get another 10 mph or so at some
> point which should give me a strong 160mph+ cruise.  Remember,
> I do have a big (and heavy) KR.
>
>
> Handling:  I'm actually starting to move the control stick in flight
now.:-)
> I'm getting more aggressive with ailerons, stick, and rudder and
> exploring some of the yet unknown areas of handling.  I flew a bit
> deeper into the stall also and it is very gentle.  On the first attempt
> the ASI was bouncing on the peg at 40MPH when I felt a slight
> buffeting (I think) and the left wing did a gentle drop of about 20
> degrees.  The KR was flying again as soon as I released back
> pressure.  I flew right back into the second stall and this time
> the right wing dropped first, a little quicker and maybe to 30 degrees
> or so.  Again the KR was flying  as soon as I released back pressure.
> With it breaking left on the first stall and right on the second stall
> I'm inclined to think maybe I didn't have the ball centered either or
> both times.  I'll try it again and watch for more clues.
>
> Slips:  My first real surprise, and I must admit the first time I've
> puckered real hard and real quick, was when I tried a couple of
> slips.  Holding about 80mph indicated I kicked some left wing
> down and right rudder for a side slip.  At about 20 degrees wing
> down and 15+ degrees nose right the nose did a rather quick
> nose down pitch of about 20 degrees. (or so it felt)  It caught me
> by surprise and I neutralized the controls.  It came right out of the
> slip.  I tried it again, not believing what just happened, and it did it
> again.  Expecting it the second time, it felt to me as if at some
> point the elevator blanked out.  Any of you guys flying "standard"
> KR's ever notice anything like that?  I'll check it out further and
> keep you posted. I'll have to make sure I'm not doing something
> with the controls to cause it. Everything I've ever heard is that KR's
> slip like a dream.  I'm glad I didn't try my first slip on a landing and
> close to the ground.  It probably wouldn't have be

KR>Progress report (long)

[Steve and Lori McGee]

Larry Resnor said:

> Speeds:  I replaced my "KPH" ASI with a "SMPH" ASI.  Flat out
> cruise I'm seeing between 150 and 160 depending on how
> straight and level I hold it and for how long.  I'm tending not
> to do any long straight and level runs just yet, more turns, climbs,
> slow flight, etc.  Also, I still don't have wheel pants on those 30"
> Diehl gear legs with the 600X6 wheels and brakes hanging out
> in the breese.  At 2500? rpm I'm only pulling maybe 85 hp out
> of the engine also so I look to get another 10 mph or so at some
> point which should give me a strong 160mph+ cruise.  Remember,
> I do have a big (and heavy) KR.
>
>
Larry, how big and how heavy?  This is a far cry from the 195 many are said
to achieve.

KR>Progress report (long)/slips

[Brian Kraut]

I never experienced what you described, but I did always have problems coming 
out of a slip smoothly.  It slipped good, but if you just neutralized the 
controls the plane would do a few weird gyrations before it stabilized again.  
This was unlike something like a Citabria where you could slip it down to 10' 
above the runway if you wanted to.  I assume that the right combination of 
backing off the rudder and aileron while applying the correct elevator at the 
same time would make it come out smoothly.  I was doing practice slips at high 
altitudes and was making sure I came out of them at landings over 100' until I 
got them down better.

Getting good at slips was one of my big goals because dragging the KR in under 
the glideslope to be sure I could stop before the end of the runway increases 
the pucker factor quite a bit also.



larry flesner wrote:

(Written Friday PM - mail server down)

Netters,

MY KR IS BACK IN THE AIR !!!  Who says 
Friday the 13th is unlucky?



Slips:  My first real surprise, and I must admit the first time I've 
puckered real hard and real quick, was when I tried a couple of
slips.  Holding about 80mph indicated I kicked some left wing
down and right rudder for a side slip.  At about 20 degrees wing
down and 15+ degrees nose right the nose did a rather quick
nose down pitch of about 20 degrees. (or so it felt)  It caught me
by surprise and I neutralized the controls.  It came right out of the
slip.  I tried it again, not believing what just happened, and it did it
again.  Expecting it the second time, it felt to me as if at some 
point the elevator blanked out.  Any of you guys flying "standard"
KR's ever notice anything like that?  I'll check it out further and
keep you posted. I'll have to make sure I'm not doing something
with the controls to cause it. Everything I've ever heard is that KR's 
slip like a dream.  I'm glad I didn't try my first slip on a landing and
close to the ground.  It probably wouldn't have been a problem
but I'll bet it woud have scared the @#$%^&* out of me!  

KR>Progress report (long)/slips

[Dennis Mingear]

I've read that the KR could use a little more vettical surface. Could this be 
one of the reasons that it does not come out of a slip crisply.

Denny ...

Brian Kraut  wrote:
I never experienced what you described, but I did always have problems coming 
out of a slip smoothly. It slipped good, but if you just neutralized the 
controls the plane would do a few weird gyrations before it stabilized again. 
This was unlike something like a Citabria where you could slip it down to 10' 
above the runway if you wanted to. I assume that the right combination of 
backing off the rudder and aileron while applying the correct elevator at the 
same time would make it come out smoothly. I was doing practice slips at high 
altitudes and was making sure I came out of them at landings over 100' until I 
got them down better.

Getting good at slips was one of my big goals because dragging the KR in under 
the glideslope to be sure I could stop before the end of the runway increases 
the pucker factor quite a bit also.



larry flesner wrote:

(Written Friday PM - mail server down)

Netters,

MY KR IS BACK IN THE AIR !!! Who says 
Friday the 13th is unlucky?



Slips: My first real surprise, and I must admit the first time I've 
puckered real hard and real quick, was when I tried a couple of
slips. Holding about 80mph indicated I kicked some left wing
down and right rudder for a side slip. At about 20 degrees wing
down and 15+ degrees nose right the nose did a rather quick
nose down pitch of about 20 degrees. (or so it felt) It caught me
by surprise and I neutralized the controls. It came right out of the
slip. I tried it again, not believing what just happened, and it did it
again. Expecting it the second time, it felt to me as if at some 
point the elevator blanked out. Any of you guys flying "standard"
KR's ever notice anything like that? I'll check it out further and
keep you posted. I'll have to make sure I'm not doing something
with the controls to cause it. Everything I've ever heard is that KR's 
slip like a dream. I'm glad I didn't try my first slip on a landing and
close to the ground. It probably wouldn't have been a problem
but I'll bet it woud have scared the @#$%^&* out of me! 







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KR>Progress report (long)/slips

[Dennis Mingear]

I've read that the KR could use a little more vertical surface. Could this be 
one of the reasons that it does not come out of a slip crisply.

Denny ...

Brian Kraut  wrote:
I never experienced what you described, but I did always have problems coming 
out of a slip smoothly. It slipped good, but if you just neutralized the 
controls the plane would do a few weird gyrations before it stabilized again. 
This was unlike something like a Citabria where you could slip it down to 10' 
above the runway if you wanted to. I assume that the right combination of 
backing off the rudder and aileron while applying the correct elevator at the 
same time would make it come out smoothly. I was doing practice slips at high 
altitudes and was making sure I came out of them at landings over 100' until I 
got them down better.

Getting good at slips was one of my big goals because dragging the KR in under 
the glideslope to be sure I could stop before the end of the runway increases 
the pucker factor quite a bit also.



larry flesner wrote:

(Written Friday PM - mail server down)

Netters,

MY KR IS BACK IN THE AIR !!! Who says 
Friday the 13th is unlucky?



Slips: My first real surprise, and I must admit the first time I've 
puckered real hard and real quick, was when I tried a couple of
slips. Holding about 80mph indicated I kicked some left wing
down and right rudder for a side slip. At about 20 degrees wing
down and 15+ degrees nose right the nose did a rather quick
nose down pitch of about 20 degrees. (or so it felt) It caught me
by surprise and I neutralized the controls. It came right out of the
slip. I tried it again, not believing what just happened, and it did it
again. Expecting it the second time, it felt to me as if at some 
point the elevator blanked out. Any of you guys flying "standard"
KR's ever notice anything like that? I'll check it out further and
keep you posted. I'll have to make sure I'm not doing something
with the controls to cause it. Everything I've ever heard is that KR's 
slip like a dream. I'm glad I didn't try my first slip on a landing and
close to the ground. It probably wouldn't have been a problem
but I'll bet it woud have scared the @#$%^&* out of me! 







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KR>Progress report-reply

[larry flesner]

>Larry, how big and how heavy?  This is a far cry from the 195 many are said
>to achieve.
+


My KR is a 24" stretch,  canopy raised for about 3" of head room
for my 6'4" body, 30"Diehl gear legs with 600X6 wheels and 
brakes, and a 765 pound empty weight.  Also, no wheel pants
at this time.  On a couple of short cross country legs yesterday 
it seems to settle in on 160 mph indicated.  That appears to 
be pretty close from what the GPS was reading out and allowing
for the wind.  I think I'll see about 170 mph cruise at 2500 rpm
when it's all said and done.

Some of those 190+ mph speeds you hear about from other
0-200 powered KR's are for KR's pretty close to plan 
size and pulling 2700 - 2950 rpm.  It's not hard to achieve
but I'm happy with the size airplane I've got and the performance
I'm getting.  The same engine pulled the C-150 along at a
blistering 110 mph !!  I'm not going to chop on the prop any more
until I get wheel pants and see if the extra speed lets the 
rpm come up a bit.  After the 40 hours I may decide to re-do
the engine by having the jugs rebuilt, rebuild or new cam and
lower end bearings, etc.

Thanks to everyone that replied, on the net and personally, with
birthday wishes and congratulations.  I turned out to be a
wonderful day.

Larry Flesner

KR>progress report news

[larry flesner]

First the good news.  I found out today that I will become
GRANDPA for the first time next May!  Awsome!

Progress report:

I weighed the KR today.  It is a 24 inch stretch with an
0-200, 600X6 main gear, 6 inch tailwheel, wing tanks
only, Cessna flap motor on the speed brake and basiclly
just a HEAVY bird.  We used some very accurate electronic 
scales. I'm using the same C.G. range as the standard KR
and will approach the rear C.G. with caution during testing.
Here is the long and short of it:

My C.G. range is __53.5 to 61.5 inches

Total empty weight including oil,
intercom and headset 764 lbs.@53.4 inches
Pilot (me) at 204 lbs._968 lbs.@57.9 inches
Fuel (25 gal@6.2 p/g=155lbs._ 1123 lbs.@58.8 inches
Pass @200 lbs._1323 lbs.@61.2 inches

I'll have to keep an eye on my baggage/passanger weight.
My C.G. will move forward 1 inch from full fuel to empty fuel.
As a frame of reference, Marty Robert's KR has an empty
weight of 780 pounds as of the last Gathering.

Jeff Scott has a KR basiclly identical to mine but he used
the Continental mount from RR ( I think) and his C.G. came
out an inch or two better than mine.  I'm using a Hapi VW
mount with a 1 inch spacer.  I believe the 2s moves the wing 
back 2 inches or stated another way, moved the firewall 
forward 2 inches. If my fuselage were built to 2s dimensions 
I'd be right on the money.

I need to get my "N" number applied and get it inspected.
I've had it on the runway for some taxi test.  I've had the
speed up to maybe 35 mph but have yet to lift the tail.
I'll keep you posted.

Larry Flesner

KR>progress report news

[Mike Turner]

 Larry, where is your baggage compartment, behind the seat or in the front 
deck area? It would be better if the cg was a little forward but you have 2 
things going for you in the configuration you have now. 1) you have that extra 
24" of strech which should help in the pitch area. 2) in the landing phase you 
will proberly have the belly board down which will tend to pitch the nose down. 
Have you done any high speed taxi test with the board down? It would be 
interesting to see if the tail wants to come up. 

  Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:27 PM
  Subject: KR>progress report news



  First the good news.  I found out today that I will become
  GRANDPA for the first time next May!  Awsome!

  Progress report:

  I weighed the KR today.  It is a 24 inch stretch with an
  0-200, 600X6 main gear, 6 inch tailwheel, wing tanks
  only, Cessna flap motor on the speed brake and basiclly
  just a HEAVY bird.  We used some very accurate electronic 
  scales. I'm using the same C.G. range as the standard KR
  and will approach the rear C.G. with caution during testing.
  Here is the long and short of it:

  My C.G. range is __53.5 to 61.5 inches

  Total empty weight including oil,
  intercom and headset 764 lbs.@53.4 inches
  Pilot (me) at 204 lbs._968 lbs.@57.9 inches
  Fuel (25 gal@6.2 p/g=155lbs._ 1123 lbs.@58.8 inches
  Pass @200 lbs._1323 lbs.@61.2 inches

  I'll have to keep an eye on my baggage/passanger weight.
  My C.G. will move forward 1 inch from full fuel to empty fuel.
  As a frame of reference, Marty Robert's KR has an empty
  weight of 780 pounds as of the last Gathering.

  Jeff Scott has a KR basiclly identical to mine but he used
  the Continental mount from RR ( I think) and his C.G. came
  out an inch or two better than mine.  I'm using a Hapi VW
  mount with a 1 inch spacer.  I believe the 2s moves the wing 
  back 2 inches or stated another way, moved the firewall 
  forward 2 inches. If my fuselage were built to 2s dimensions 
  I'd be right on the money.

  I need to get my "N" number applied and get it inspected.
  I've had it on the runway for some taxi test.  I've had the
  speed up to maybe 35 mph but have yet to lift the tail.
  I'll keep you posted.

  Larry Flesner



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KR>Progress report

[William Clapp]

As of today - I have finished the rough build of my forward removable deck and 
have trimmed my TODD'S Canopy to fit.  I installed my new modified seat assy 
which is about 2" lower than my first attempt and put the canopy over my head - 
It fits and feels great!  Now that I have the dimensions for the canopy I will 
build the canopy frame and attachments.  I also finished installing my brake 
pedals and rudder cable and system - all work fine.  Well - back tho the 
grindstone - see you all in September ?Bill

KR>progress report/pics

[larry flesner]

Netters,

I e-mailed Mark Langford an updated picture of my KR in her
new white paint. Go to the net web page and click on my
name in the projects.  Mark posted two new pictures at the
top of my site so you don't have to wait for a long download.
I'll finish it off with vinyl trim at some point.

THREE WEEKS FROM THIS MORNING I HEAD TO RED OAK !!

Thanks Mark and have a nice day.

Larry

KR>progress report/pics

[larry flesner]

 Go to the net web page and click on my
>name in the projects.  
>Larry
+++


That would be   

Larry

KR>Progress report

[larry flesner]

Netter's

I got the wings mounted yesterday after painting.  Today I refilled
my right brake line,  added five gallon of fuel to each wing and
cranked the engine up.  It still runs !!!  I did some "playing" around
the ramp, taxiway, and a bit in the grass.  Can't wait to fly it.

I won't make Red Oak with the KR this year but I do look to
make the first flight before attending the Gathering in the 
Tripacer.

One problem I found was that I got my spacing around the 
gullwing door so tight that when it got hot in the sun I had
trouble opening it.  It turned out to be the paint between
the door and the mount at the hinge point.  Once scuffed
on opening I've not had any more problems.  All other
systems seem to be working fine.  Some minor problems
on assembly after painting but I'm working through them
with no problems.

Larry (grinning from ear to ear)  Flesner

KR>Progress report

[larry flesner]

My KR went into the paint booth last night a 6:00PM and by
10:30PM it was ALL WHITE !!  I'll find out this morning how
good it looks in the daylight.  I know there are a few runs to
sand/buff out and a bug or two to bury this morning but hey,
it's progress!!

Red Oak ???  Can't rule it out but a long way to go yet.

Larry Flesner

KR>Progress report

[David Hartz]

LARRY
WHAT PAINT ARE YOU USING,ACRYLIC ENAMEL,URATHANE?
DAVE
--- larry flesner  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> My KR went into the paint booth last night a 6:00PM
> and by
> 10:30PM it was ALL WHITE !!  I'll find out this
> morning how
> good it looks in the daylight.  I know there are a
> few runs to
> sand/buff out and a bug or two to bury this morning
> but hey,
> it's progress!!
> 
> Red Oak ???  Can't rule it out but a long way to go
> yet.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
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KR>Progress report

[larry flesner]

>LARRY
>WHAT PAINT ARE YOU USING,ACRYLIC ENAMEL,URATHANE?
>DAVE
++

ACRYLIC ENAMEL  ( I think)

The painter picked it for me.  I believe it is made by DuPont and the
cost was $40 gallon.  I think the number of colors are limited on
this particular brand of paint but all I needed was white.  My trim
will be vynal (sp?) when I get to it.  He used two gallon to paint
the airplane.  I'm sure that more than half was lost to the air!

Larry Flesner