KR>KR Info Page

[Chris Matheny]

The Info page for KR's seems to be down or is it just on my end? That is
too good of information to lose. Hopefully someone had it backed up. Thanks


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Re: KR> info

[John Bouyea via KRnet]

Hi Steve.
As requested. forwarding this on to you.
Best wishes.
John Bouyea
N133RM KR-2S
OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

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Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 9:32 AM
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Subject: KR> info

Hello I have difficulty contacting Steve Glover of NV Aerospace ... can
anyone help me? Gabriele Marini Facebook Gabriele krdues
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KR> info

[Gabriele Marini via KRnet]

Hello I have difficulty contacting Steve Glover of NV Aerospace ... can
anyone help me? Gabriele Marini Facebook Gabriele krdues
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Re: KR> info

[Craig Williams via KRnet]

These folks can help. https://www.airplaneplastics.com/

> On October 12, 2018 at 6:11 AM Gabriele Marini via KRnet 
> mailto:krnet@list.krnet.org > wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings to the whole group of KR from Italy, unfortunately I have to
> replace the canopy on my KR2S I tried to contact Nv plane, but does not
> respond to the mail, the one I broke I had bought by Rand Robinson
> engineering 15 years ago, but I believe it does not exist anymore, is 
> there
> anyone who knows the manufacturer of this canopy? Thank you all Gabriele
> KRDUES ( Facebook)
> 
> gabri...@vetreriagorbini.it mailto:gabri...@vetreriagorbini.it
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> 338 92 40 449 italy
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KR> info

[Gabriele Marini via KRnet]

Greetings to the whole group of KR from Italy, unfortunately I have to
replace the canopy on my KR2S I tried to contact Nv plane, but does not
respond to the mail, the one I broke I had bought by Rand Robinson
engineering 15 years ago, but I believe it does not exist anymore, is there
anyone who knows the manufacturer of this canopy? Thank you all Gabriele
KRDUES   ( Facebook)

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[Gabriele Marini via KRnet]

Greetings to the whole group of KR from Italy, unfortunately I have to
replace the canopy on my KR2S I tried to contact Nv plane, but does not
respond to the mail, the one I broke I had bought by Rand Robinson
engineering 15 years ago, but I believe it does not exist anymore, is there
anyone who knows the manufacturer of this canopy? Thank you all Gabriele
KRDUES


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KR> info

[Gabriele Marini via KRnet]

Greetings to the whole group of KR from Italy, unfortunately I have to
replace the canopy on my KR2S I tried to contact Nv plane, but does not
respond to the mail, the one I broke I had bought by Rand Robinson
engineering 15 years ago, but I believe it does not exist anymore, is there
anyone who knows the manufacturer of this canopy? Thank you all Gabriele
KRDUES
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

Awesome

Ken Hurley

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 7:07 AM Richard Kaczmarek via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Lesson I have learned over the years is go with one that is ground
> adjustable. This will let you dial everything in better. We went from a
> fixed pitch to a ground adjustable and thou the original prop worked great
> the new prop got us more. We started with our original setting and the
> plane actually performed a bit better. We figured this was because it was a
> different prop and different manufacturer from the old original one. After
> about 10 we decided to play with the pitch. 2 degs got us another 100 fpm
> climb and about 5knots more cruise.
>
> Richard
> Fast Little Airplanes
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 1:22 AM Christopher Pryce via KRnet <
> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:
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> > Dan Weseman at flywithspa.com sells Sensenich props that are custom
> > designed for Corvairs.
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Richard Kaczmarek via KRnet]

Lesson I have learned over the years is go with one that is ground
adjustable. This will let you dial everything in better. We went from a
fixed pitch to a ground adjustable and thou the original prop worked great
the new prop got us more. We started with our original setting and the
plane actually performed a bit better. We figured this was because it was a
different prop and different manufacturer from the old original one. After
about 10 we decided to play with the pitch. 2 degs got us another 100 fpm
climb and about 5knots more cruise.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 1:22 AM Christopher Pryce via KRnet <
krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Dan Weseman at flywithspa.com sells Sensenich props that are custom
> designed for Corvairs.
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Christopher Pryce via KRnet]

Dan Weseman at flywithspa.com sells Sensenich props that are custom
designed for Corvairs.
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Ken Hurley via KRnet]

I've bought a prop from them and it has worked very well.

https://www.facebook.com/CulverProps/



Thanks

Ken Hurley
kenhurle...@gmail.com


On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:47 AM Pete Klapp via KRnet 
wrote:

> Netters
>
> The time has come to purchase a prop for me project. Not sure which one I
> will purchase (Sensnich, Prince, Sterba) but I'm not sure what info is
> needed. My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 HP at 3100 RPM
> which will probably be WOT for take-off. what other info do I need to
> supply to a prop manufacturer.
>
> Pete Klapp, almost done building N729PK,
>
> Canton, OH
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Re: KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Mark Langford via KRnet]

Pete Klapp wrote:

> The time has come to purchase a prop for me project. Not sure which 
one I will purchase (Senesnich, Prince, Sterba) but I'm not sure 
what info is needed. My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 
HP at 3100 RPM which will probably be WOT for take-off. what other info 
do I need to supply to a prop manufacturer.  <


Pete, you probably want at least a Sensenich 54x56 for a 3.0L, maybe a 
54x58.  We've been using a variant of the Sonex prop on the Corvair, 
with more pitch.  See enclosed photo for the model number of my 
preferred 2.7L prop, the 54x54.  I'd ask for a 54x58, personally.  They 
are expensive, but they are the best prop I've tried, and I've flown 15 
or 20 different props on my KR2S.  The best plan is to borrow one from 
somebody for first flights, and then you'll know if it needs a little 
more or less pitch, but my money's on the 54x58.  I know you said 95 HP, 
but that's at 3100 rpm, and you probably want a little more than that 
for WOT straight and level flight.  See enclosed photo for 54x54 model 
number.  William Wynne is a Sensenich dealer, and that may save $100 or 
so.If I had one, I'd let you borrow it.


Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com
http://www.n56ml.com

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KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Oscar Zuniga via KRnet]

Pete asked-

>My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 HP at 3100 RPM

>what other info do I need to supply to a prop manufacturer.


Give them the prop diameter and that will help the prop supplier zero in on the 
pitch based on the individual prop builder's blade design and recommendations.  
Prop diameter on KRs is fairly consistent given the required ground clearance 
and the airframe geometry that sets the thrust line, but there are variations 
between the original retract versions, the tri-gear, and the KRs with the 
longer main landing gear legs.


When you actually order a prop they will of course need to know that the 
Corvair turns the opposite of "normal" aircraft engines, and they'll also need 
to know about the counterbore through the hub for the safety shaft, drive lugs 
if your prop hub has them, and the bolt pattern.

Oscar Zuniga

Medford, OR
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KR> Info needed to size a prop???

[Pete Klapp via KRnet]

Netters

The time has come to purchase a prop for me project. Not sure which one I will 
purchase (Sensnich, Prince, Sterba) but I'm not sure what info is needed. 
My engine is a 3.0 liter Corvair that dyno'd at 95 HP at 3100 RPM which will 
probably be WOT for take-off. what other info do I need to supply to a prop 
manufacturer.

Pete Klapp, almost done building N729PK,

Canton, OH
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KR> The KR Info data sheet....

[Gary via KRnet]

Does anyone have access to:

The KR Info data sheet is up and running at
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com 
<http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/>   


Does it have data on Vso, Vs1, Vfe, Vno, Vne?



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/Soli Deo Gloria/
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KR> info on KR-2

[G R Pickett]

I have a Lyc 0-145, and you might be interested in the following, from my
manual:
Parts ARE available, from a guy in PA.  There are other sources, but not
nearly as many as VW or even Corvair sources.  Parts aren't cheap, but not
crazy expensive, either.  
Rated at 75 HP, there are 3 models of 75 HP engines.   Engine dry weights
vary from 155 to 167.5 lbs, depending upon what kind of magneto(s) are used.
Max RPM is 3100, economy cruise is 2700, and performance cruise is 2850.
Maybe it would use a prop similar to a VW, except it rotates clockwise.
I have seen manuals, in PDF form, on the internet, for around $25-50.  Be
sure to get the Instructions, Parts Catalogue, and Service Bulletins.
Griff Pickett



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From: Flesner [mailto:flesner at frontier.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:32 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> info on KR-2


>
> > Fellas, I have been looking at a KR-2 for sale in my area. It was 
> > completed in 1984. It has an extensive builder log with photos.  It 
> > has a Lyc O-145 with around 35 hours SMOH. It is the 75 hp version.
> > Vance
+

Do a google search for "Lycombing 0-145 problems".  There is lots of info
there to consider.  It seems that 75 hp is asking a lot from that engine.

Larry Flesner 

KR> info on KR-2

[Flesner]

>
> > Fellas, I have been looking at a KR-2 for sale in my area. It was completed
> > in 1984. It has an extensive builder log with photos.  It has a Lyc O-145
> > with around 35 hours SMOH. It is the 75 hp version.
> > Vance
+

Do a google search for "Lycombing 0-145 problems".  There is lots of 
info there to consider.  It seems that 75 hp is asking a lot from that engine.

Larry Flesner 

KR> info on KR-2

[Vance Simons]

Thank you for all the information. You guys have gave me a good idea on
what not to do. Im building a Zenith 701 right now and dont really need
another project setting around. I will be looking for one after the Zenith
is done. I want something faster to travel in.

Thanks
On Aug 2, 2014 8:59 PM, "Vance Simons via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Fellas, I have been looking at a KR-2 for sale in my area. It was completed
> in 1984. It has an extensive builder log with photos.  It has a Lyc O-145
> with around 35 hours SMOH. It is the 75 hp version. Its been stored in a
> hangar since the late 80's. Very nice panel. The cowl tank is shot and im
> going to assume so are the wing tanks. The wing walk area is soft. The
> airframe overall is in not to bad of shape with some minor hangar rash. I
> can pick it up for $3500. Thoughts??
>
> Can the fuel tanks be fixed on these without much trouble? Could it be made
> into a tri-gear?
>
> Thanks
> Vance
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KR> info on KR-2

[Lawrence Bell]

The engine alone is worth way more than that. I don't know what a cowl tank
is but that can all be rebuilt. The ease of re configuring the gear depends
on the existing gear. If you want something that you can do "without much
trouble" get a new airplane.
Larry Bell


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Vance Simons via KRnet  wrote:

> Fellas, I have been looking at a KR-2 for sale in my area. It was completed
> in 1984. It has an extensive builder log with photos.  It has a Lyc O-145
> with around 35 hours SMOH. It is the 75 hp version. Its been stored in a
> hangar since the late 80's. Very nice panel. The cowl tank is shot and im
> going to assume so are the wing tanks. The wing walk area is soft. The
> airframe overall is in not to bad of shape with some minor hangar rash. I
> can pick it up for $3500. Thoughts??
>
> Can the fuel tanks be fixed on these without much trouble? Could it be made
> into a tri-gear?
>
> Thanks
> Vance
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KR> info on KR-2

[Vance Simons]

Fellas, I have been looking at a KR-2 for sale in my area. It was completed
in 1984. It has an extensive builder log with photos.  It has a Lyc O-145
with around 35 hours SMOH. It is the 75 hp version. Its been stored in a
hangar since the late 80's. Very nice panel. The cowl tank is shot and im
going to assume so are the wing tanks. The wing walk area is soft. The
airframe overall is in not to bad of shape with some minor hangar rash. I
can pick it up for $3500. Thoughts??

Can the fuel tanks be fixed on these without much trouble? Could it be made
into a tri-gear?

Thanks
Vance

KR> "KR-info" performance update

[Mark Langford]

It's probably not common knowledge that I've been doing the rare updates to the 
Rand Robinson website at www.fly-kr.com for many years, updating it whenever 
Jeannette has come out with her equally rare price increases.  Mark Jones 
pointed out to me the other day that the Gathering info on that website pointed 
to the "upcoming 2007 Gathering", so it's been a while.  Given the news that RR 
no longer has a telephone number or a fax line, I've updated that website to 
point to Steve's business, which is sanctioned and encouraged by Jeannette 
Rand. 

I'm on the fence whether that website should even continue on, but it would 
seem useful as a pointer to KRnet, the Gathering website, and NVaero, so I plan 
to add it to the list of KR websites that I maintain.  I don't plan to do much 
with it other than maintain it as a pointer though.  One thing I changed on 
that website that's always been an irritant to me is add a disclaimer under the 
performance figures that all those numbers are not achievable by the same 
airplane, and I added a pointer to the "real" peformance data on KRnet. 

That reminded me that I'd also like to update the KR-info page on the KRnet 
site that lists the performance of various KR/engine/prop combinations.  It's 
been a while since I've updated it, and by now there are more KRs in the air 
and the builders have had time to gather some valid performance data.  Feel 
free to send that info to me in the order that's shown at 
http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , or if you have Excel, open 
http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls, edit it locally with your information, and 
send it back to me for incorporation (that's easiest for me).  I'll give y'all 
a week or so to trickle the info in and then I'll update and post it.

Thanks,

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 

KR> info- wingskins

[Phillip Matheson]

What a great Network of helpers.
Stephen, That was very well said, and anyone how has not done their skins 
should keep stevs comments somewhere.

Remember Dan Diehl and or is video is a great place to start.

I have to make wings again one of these days, but will be as Mark and Mark 
did using the new AS5046.

Keep up the good relies, and thanks to all you guys who take the time to 
help others.

It is a great system Mark L has set up.



Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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KR> info

[Teate, Stephen]

Hello Ray,

You have gotten some excellent responses to your questions. I will add my 
comments as I should complete my finish sanding on my top skins tonight.

Jeff Scott is exactly right about the mixing. I got my resin from AS and they 
have a sheet on their web site that will give all kinds of mix ratios and batch 
sizes. You will more than likely be mixing all kinds of batch sizes so this 
really came in handy. I also used a 60 CC and 12 CC syringes for my resin and 
MEK quantities. You can get them from any Vet or online. I also used an eye 
dropper for the small batches. 

Also what Phil said about the helpers is another excellent point. I actually 
did the two bottom skins and ribs myself but it would have been easier with 
another helper. But for the top skins I had both of my parents and my wife 
helping me due to the amount of flox you have to put down. I had everything 
laid out, prepped, and the skins premarked so everyone would know where to put 
the flox. I had also done some pre batches so knew what temperatures and pot 
life I could expect. 

One big point here, be sure that when you do your dry test fit of your skins to 
the spars that you tape down the leading and trailing edges and rub your hands 
over the top surface cord wise to be sure you don't end up with a ridge line at 
your spars. I thought I did this but when I pulled the clamps and tape off I 
had a gorgeous set of wings that had a ridge you couldn't see but you could 
feel. Obviously a span wise ridge is unacceptable so I got to fill and sand 
some more!

With the left skin laid out and marked, everyone briefed on what to do and 
especially that if they got an itch in the next hour, it doesn't get scratched 
under any circumstances. I mixed up the first batch and gave it to my Mom to 
put on the skin. Next batch was for Dad to put on the ribs. Next one was for my 
wife to get on the spars and I mixed one to help anyone who needed it. 
Everything was going great until I went to check on my Mom. She was almost 
finished and I decided to add a little more flox to an area where she started. 
It had already started to crust over! I quickly informed everyone to reverse 
course and scrape it all off as fast as they could. We got it all off but of 
course I had to reprep everything before we could try again. This is where the 
ratio chart came in handy. I started mixing my batches so that I would have a 
lot more time and didn't have any other problems.

I started saving small plastic water bottles to use to mix my resin in. I cut 
the top off so that the bottom was about 4 inches tall. I kept my large batches 
to 4 oz. I measured 4 oz. of water and poured it into a bottle and used a 
sharpie to mark a fill line. I then marked the other bottles. When doing a 
large layup like the top skin I would fill several bottles with resin to the 
fill line and not add the catalyst until needed. I think I used ten to twelve 
bottles for each skin but I would fill up a couple of extras just in case so I 
wouldn't be trying to mix up some under pressure. 

Sorry for the length, but I have been working on these for a couple of months 
so it is pretty fresh in my mind. If you would like anymore info on my 
experience you can e-mail me off net at ste...@compositecooling.com.

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas  


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Ray Fuenzalida
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:13 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> info

Hello All,
Am about to start work on my Dan Diehl wing skins.  Spars and ribs are done.  
Ready to mount to the fuselage.  Have the video re: setting the dihedrahl and 
think I can follow it.
Question #1. When I ordered everything it came with some flox to stiffenup the 
mixture when I start using it.  When I check the video it looks like it has 
been mixed to a consistency of peanut butter (not free flowing).  So what is 
the formula?  MEK to resin is 2%.  How much flox?
Question # 2.  Can I use a little less hardener?  2% sets up fairly quickly.  
If I dropped it to 1.5% would that buy me more application time but not weaken 
the final product?
 
Any advice on anything even remotely connected will be appreciated.  Any tricks 
or tips that could make the job easier/better?
 
Intention is to place the bottom skins only.  Then will set the aluminum fuel 
tanks, run wires for lights, set up tie downs etc.  
Top skins and final ribs will be in the future (hopefully near future).
Thanks for the response.
 
Ray
New Orleans



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[Mark Jones]

>When placing Al tanks (AKA Mark Jones & Dana Overall) how are the tanks
>supported relative to the spars?  Bonding small  Al angle pieces seams
>appropriate but is anyone also strapping them in some how???

My aluminum tanks are sitting on two 1" x 1" pieces of aluminum angle that 
is bolted between the front and rear spars. I placed some 1/8" rubber 
stripping on the aluminum angle to prevent any possible rubbing or friction 
between the tanks and the aluminum angle. Once the tanks were seated, I 
poured two part liquid foam between the tanks and the spars and allowed that 
area to completely fill. This holds the tanks firmly in place yet allows for 
any flex in the wing. On the top and bottom of the tanks, I epoxied 
polyurethane foam in place and then proceeded to shape the airfoil once all 
the foam was placed in the wing. By doing this you have totally encased the 
tank in the wing with foam. These tanks now have 250 flight hours with 
absolutely no leaks or problems.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> info wing skins

[Gary Shubert]

I picked up a project that came with  new in box Diehl skins. 



I am in almost in the same position as Ray and I am struggling with the
following questions.



When placing Al tanks (AKA Mark Jones & Dana Overall) how are the tanks
supported relative to the spars?  Bonding small  Al angle pieces seams
appropriate but is anyone also strapping them in some how???



 Next :



Wing ribs?  What about (using the Dan Diehl skins) wing ribs over the area
of the tank?  I desire to make a longer skinnier tank similar to what Dan
recommends in the his installation instructions  (for the wet wing version)
but wonder about the skins ability to retain its shape while flying without
oil canning.  I can make ribs and then hollow out the center and install
over the tank and bond but is this necessary?  



I am thinking about making  "stiff" wing ribs for each end of the tank to
"lock" it in place laterally within the wing.  I have a KR experience CD and
in that CD Mark L. is demonstrating how he was fabricating  his wing tank
"skins" he mentioned that due to the stiffness in that area he was NOT using
ribs and apparently Dan was in the audience as Mark asked about his wing
skins and Dan (off camera) indicated that with his skins he did use ribs.  I
understand that ribs or something like them perform multiple functions in a
wet wing including baffling.  BUT are they necessary for wing skin
structural support?



It is almost warm enough here in CT now to get resin to set up.  Likely next
week it will be too hot and the stuff will go off while I am still mixing
it.  Nice place,  but building in a drafty unheated barn makes for a short
airframe construction season.



Gary Shubert

KR2 - Corvair







Last question

KR> info wing skins

[Phillip Matheson]

Ray.

I had 3 helpers, 4 would have been better.
Have everything including the clamps READY, Do a dry run first so they all 
know what is about to happen.

1- YES a mixture that will on run off the sticks used to spread. DO NOT 
SPARE IT, us heaps , BUT pain a good coat of normal V/Ester before applying 
the past to all areas to be stuck.

AS for the mix, I will not comment, as I'm not sure of you V/Ester resin you 
are using. Ask Dan.

Good luck, It is a great felling when you stand and look at the finished 
job.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: KR> info


Hello All,
Am about to start work on my Dan Diehl wing skins. Spars and ribs are done. 
Ready to mount to the fuselage. Have the video re: setting the dihedrahl and 
think I can follow it.
Question #1. When I ordered everything it came with some flox to stiffenup 
the mixture when I start using it. When I check the video it looks like it 
has been mixed to a consistency of peanut butter (not free flowing). So what 
is the formula? MEK to resin is 2%. How much flox?
Question # 2. Can I use a little less hardener? 2% sets up fairly quickly. 
If I dropped it to 1.5% would that buy me more application time but not 
weaken the final product?

Any advice on anything even remotely connected will be appreciated. Any 
tricks or tips that could make the job easier/better?

Intention is to place the bottom skins only. Then will set the aluminum fuel 
tanks, run wires for lights, set up tie downs etc.
Top skins and final ribs will be in the future (hopefully near future).
Thanks for the response.

Ray
New Orleans



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[Jeff Scott]

Ray,

The catalyst mix (MEKP) is variable and should be varied depending on the 
temperature and the amount of promoter in your resin.  Since you buy the resin 
already promoted, you don't know how much is in it, so you have to do some test 
batches to find the set time.  Do some tests with your Vinylester resin and the 
MEKP to find the ideal working time for the resin at the temperatures you're 
working in.  Keep in mind that it is exothermic, so larger batches will set 
much faster than small batches.  Slowing down the cure time a bit isn't going 
to hurt the strength of the Vinylester resin.  

As for actual mix of resin to Flox, just keep adding flox until you get the 
consistency of peanut butter.  Again, do a couple of small test batches to see 
how it works before doing the actual deed.  It's simple and you'll learn 
quickly.

Good luck,

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

-- Original Message --
From: Ray Fuenzalida 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> info
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:13:20 -0700 (PDT)

Hello All,
Am about to start work on my Dan Diehl wing skins.  Spars and ribs are done.  
Ready to mount to the fuselage.  Have the video re: setting the dihedrahl and 
think I can follow it.
Question #1. When I ordered everything it came with some flox to stiffenup the 
mixture when I start using it.  When I check the video it looks like it has 
been mixed to a consistency of peanut butter (not free flowing).  So what is 
the formula?  MEK to resin is 2%.  How much flox?
Question # 2.  Can I use a little less hardener?  2% sets up fairly quickly.  
If I dropped it to 1.5% would that buy me more application time but not weaken 
the final product?
 
Any advice on anything even remotely connected will be appreciated.  Any tricks 
or tips that could make the job easier/better?
 
Intention is to place the bottom skins only.  Then will set the aluminum fuel 
tanks, run wires for lights, set up tie downs etc.  
Top skins and final ribs will be in the future (hopefully near future).
Thanks for the response.
 
Ray
New Orleans



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KR> info

[Ray Fuenzalida]

Hello All,
Am about to start work on my Dan Diehl wing skins.  Spars and ribs are done.  
Ready to mount to the fuselage.  Have the video re: setting the dihedrahl and 
think I can follow it.
Question #1. When I ordered everything it came with some flox to stiffenup the 
mixture when I start using it.  When I check the video it looks like it has 
been mixed to a consistency of peanut butter (not free flowing).  So what is 
the formula?  MEK to resin is 2%.  How much flox?
Question # 2.  Can I use a little less hardener?  2% sets up fairly quickly.  
If I dropped it to 1.5% would that buy me more application time but not weaken 
the final product?
 
Any advice on anything even remotely connected will be appreciated.  Any tricks 
or tips that could make the job easier/better?
 
Intention is to place the bottom skins only.  Then will set the aluminum fuel 
tanks, run wires for lights, set up tie downs etc.  
Top skins and final ribs will be in the future (hopefully near future).
Thanks for the response.
 
Ray
New Orleans

KR> update your flying KR info stats

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

It's been about four months now, and there are some new KRs flying, while 
others have made changes to their KRs.  If you need to update the data for your 
KR at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (or http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls if 
you have Excel), please let me know what needs updating and I'll make the 
changes.  It's easist if you copy the Excel file and change your row, but that 
just makes it easy.  Anything will work...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> KR Info site update

[Mark Langford]

Peter Drake wrote:

> I am using a similar elevator linkage set up to yours with rods & cables.
> Did you use any kind of bushing where the bellcranks pivot on the bolt?
> and what lever arm distances for the cable shackles and rod linkages were 
> on
> these bellcranks?

I'm pretty sure I used an oil impregnated bronze bushing there, as in most 
places I have a bellcrank of any kind.  I think the spacing was 2.5", maybe 
2.75, maybe 3", I forget, but it's the same in both places.  I'll try to 
remember to measure them next time I'm close to them.  The front bellcrank 
is a little tall so that new holes can be drilled in it to change the ratio 
between it and the stick, but I haven't felt the need to do that.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> KR Info site update

[Brad Ankerstar]

I just copied and pasted in excel.  Worked for me.

Brad Ankerstar
KR 2 N84BA, building

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Powell" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info site update


> Mark,   Do  you by chance have this table in an EXCEL Spreadsheet ?.   It
> would be easier to review if you do.  If  so, please email me a copy.
>
> randywpow...@verizon.net
> Wachapreague Va.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Langford" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: KR> KR Info site update
>
>
>> KRnetHeads,
>>
>> I've updated the KR info site at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html with a
>> few more entries.  There are still a lot missing, for example Jim 
>> Sellars,
>> etc, so send me your info so I can add it.  The more info we have here 
>> the
>> easier folks will find it to make decisions about engines, props, etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
>> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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KR> KR Info site update

[Mark Langford]

KRnetHeads,

I've updated the KR info site at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html with a 
few more entries.  There are still a lot missing, for example Jim Sellars, 
etc, so send me your info so I can add it.  The more info we have here the 
easier folks will find it to make decisions about engines, props, etc.

Thanks,

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> KR Info site update

[Randy Powell]

Mark,   Do  you by chance have this table in an EXCEL Spreadsheet ?.   It 
would be easier to review if you do.  If  so, please email me a copy.

randywpow...@verizon.net
Wachapreague Va.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: KR> KR Info site update


> KRnetHeads,
>
> I've updated the KR info site at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html with a
> few more entries.  There are still a lot missing, for example Jim Sellars,
> etc, so send me your info so I can add it.  The more info we have here the
> easier folks will find it to make decisions about engines, props, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
>
>
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KR> KR Info site update

[Mark Langford]

Randy Powell wrote:

> Mark,   Do  you by chance have this table in an EXCEL Spreadsheet ?.   It
> would be easier to review if you do.  If  so, please email me a copy.

It's at the same address as the html file, just replace the .html  with a 
.xls instead and you'll have it.  That makes it easier on me too, as all I 
have to do is copy a row into the "master" version and I'm done...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> KR Info site update

[Peter Drake]

A question for Mark Langford
I am using a similar elevator linkage set up to yours with rods & cables. 
Did you use any kind of bushing where the bellcranks pivot on the bolt?
and what lever arm distances for the cable shackles and rod linkages were on 
these bellcranks?
Thanks
Peter Drake
Hereford UK
peterdr...@kingslandstabling.com 

KR> KR-info spreadsheet update

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

I've taken Orma's KR-Info spreadsheet and added Joe Horton and Troy Petteway 
to it (Jim Faughn in work), and updated a few others, including links.  We 
need more though.  Every little tidbit of information helps, so send me some 
info.  If you're missing a few numbers we'll just leave them blank for now, 
but simple stuff like engine, carb, and propeller would be helpful to 
others.  I also wondered how many of the speed numbers were in knots and how 
many in mph.  I'm going to assume they are all mph unless y'all tell me 
different, in which case I'll update your info.   I also tried to make it a 
little easier to view on the web.  See http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html ...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> KR-info spreadsheet update

[Steve Bray]

Mark
Is it for flying KR's only or hope to be's also ?


Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Langford" 
>Reply-To: KRnet 
>To: "KRnet" 
>Subject: KR> KR-info spreadsheet update
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:58:11 -0500
>
>NetHeads,
>
>I've taken Orma's KR-Info spreadsheet and added Joe Horton and Troy 
>Petteway
>to it (Jim Faughn in work), and updated a few others, including links.  We
>need more though.  Every little tidbit of information helps, so send me 
>some
>info.  If you're missing a few numbers we'll just leave them blank for now,
>but simple stuff like engine, carb, and propeller would be helpful to
>others.  I also wondered how many of the speed numbers were in knots and 
>how
>many in mph.  I'm going to assume they are all mph unless y'all tell me
>different, in which case I'll update your info.   I also tried to make it a
>little easier to view on the web.  See http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html 
>...
>
>Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
>email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
>
>
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KR> KR-info spreadsheet update

[Mark Langford]

Steve Bray wrote:

> Is it for flying KR's only or hope to be's also ?

I would think there would be a lot more credibility if the plane was already 
flying, and all the blanks were filled in with real flight tested 
information.  There's still a possiblity of errors or outright mistruths, 
but I'll bet most of these are about as accurate as the owners know how to 
make them.  Testing errors are a real possibiliy, especially if indicated 
airspeed is relied on for the speed numbers, but it should be a helpful tool 
with engine size and prop selection.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
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KR> KR Info

[JAMES FERRIS]

Omar: the most interesting part of thislist is the low end of the speed
range, seven  of them would b e in the light sport  range at 51 MPH or
less and if flaperons were use all of them woul qualify. Joe Beyer is
qualified on the top speed end also,so it looks like a KR-2 could easly
be built with a less expensive engine fo much less than 10K.
Sincerely
Jim

KR> KR Info

[Orma]

I wanted to get info from all the pilots with KR's at the gathering.  I did 
not get there until Saturday night and did not get any info.  Hopefully they 
will contact me with the info for their planes soon, so that even more stats 
are presented.

Orma
Southfield, MI
KR-2  N110LR  1984
See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm

KR> KR Info

[Lee Van Dyke]

this is the info on my plane

KR> KR Info

[pole shed]

Ray, a lot of prayers have been directed your way, for
the city as a whole, but more importantly to you
personally. Glad you survived the hurricane. Now to
survive the rebuilding  Sorry you can't make the
Gathering, I was looking forward to visiting with you
again.  Some things are more important.

--- Ray Fuenzalida  wrote:

> Hello Larry and everyone else.  Obviously you have
> all seen the news.  My poor city has gone to Hell in
> a handbasket.  I will miss the Gathering.  Don't
> know if my KR project even still exists or the
> warehouse it was in.
> Some flooding in the house, some wind damage.  I
> faired better than most.  I have tons of camping
> gear, water, food etc.  Now people are breaking out
> guns because of the growing lawlessness.  It is the
> insane evacuees that are causing the problems.  Now
> its just wait and see.  They say it will be 2 months
> before they can restore power and water.  Even cell
> phones don't work because the towers are down.  
> Oh well.  As they say, at least I'm still out there.
>  
> Ray
> New Orleans
> 
> 
> larry flesner  wrote:
> At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
> >The fastest KR is 170
> >>Orma
> >---
> >Are we talking
> >Ground speed
> >IAS
> >Phil Matheson
> +
> 
> That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't
> know what the
> CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density
> altitude of
> at least a couple thousand feet. My airspeed
> indicator seems
> to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a
> little or
> no wind day.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
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KR> KR Info

[Orma]

Hello Net

Hot news flash from the KR Info spreadsheet.  So far there are 16 entries. and 
the index page has been hit 355 times which includes repeat visitors.  

The lightest KR is 530
The heaviest KR is 795
The fastest KR is 170
The lowest VSO is 46

I need help making this good list great.  If you know the e-mail or phone 
number of someone with a flying KR that has not listed, contact the person and 
guide him or her to the list.

See you at the gathering in 9 days

Orma
Southfield, MI
KR-2  N110LR  1984
See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm

KR> KR Info

[larry flesner]

>The fastest KR is 170
>Orma
+

It would be interesting if the KR's at the Gathering could have a bit
of a "fly-off".  I'd like to know if my 170mph is really faster than 
Mark L.'s 165mph and if Mark Jone's 1100fpm climb is really greater 
than my 800-900 fpm climb.  This would not be a "my KR is better
than yours" event but something to take a bit of the speculation
of system errors, etc. from the mix.

Should be both fun and entertaining.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Info

[Mark Jones]

Sounds like a plan. What ever happened to the spot landing contest? I
remember when Marty would drop a roll of toilet paper and see how many
times he could cut it. We could do a fastest climb to say 5000'. A
fastest high speed pass would be fun too.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com


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Behalf Of larry flesner
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:06 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info



>The fastest KR is 170
>Orma
+

It would be interesting if the KR's at the Gathering could have a bit
of a "fly-off".  I'd like to know if my 170mph is really faster than 
Mark L.'s 165mph and if Mark Jone's 1100fpm climb is really greater 
than my 800-900 fpm climb.  This would not be a "my KR is better
than yours" event but something to take a bit of the speculation
of system errors, etc. from the mix.

Should be both fun and entertaining.

Larry Flesner



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[phil brookman]

might be real intresting to have a propellor fly in where you can all
evaluate which prop is best for what qs there are big diffrences as we in
the uk are finding out
p
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Subject: Re: KR> KR Info


>
> >The fastest KR is 170
> >Orma
> +
>
> It would be interesting if the KR's at the Gathering could have a bit
> of a "fly-off".  I'd like to know if my 170mph is really faster than
> Mark L.'s 165mph and if Mark Jone's 1100fpm climb is really greater
> than my 800-900 fpm climb.  This would not be a "my KR is better
> than yours" event but something to take a bit of the speculation
> of system errors, etc. from the mix.
>
> Should be both fun and entertaining.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KR Info

[Brian Kraut]

Can my red headed step child play too?

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
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Behalf Of larry flesner
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:06 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info



>The fastest KR is 170
>Orma
+

It would be interesting if the KR's at the Gathering could have a bit
of a "fly-off".  I'd like to know if my 170mph is really faster than 
Mark L.'s 165mph and if Mark Jone's 1100fpm climb is really greater 
than my 800-900 fpm climb.  This would not be a "my KR is better
than yours" event but something to take a bit of the speculation
of system errors, etc. from the mix.

Should be both fun and entertaining.

Larry Flesner



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KR> KR Info

[Mark Jones]

Absolutely

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: KR> KR Info


> Can my red headed step child play too?
> 
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of larry flesner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:06 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Info
> 
> 
> 
> >The fastest KR is 170
> >Orma
> +
> 
> It would be interesting if the KR's at the Gathering could have a bit
> of a "fly-off".  I'd like to know if my 170mph is really faster than 
> Mark L.'s 165mph and if Mark Jone's 1100fpm climb is really greater 
> than my 800-900 fpm climb.  This would not be a "my KR is better
> than yours" event but something to take a bit of the speculation
> of system errors, etc. from the mix.
> 
> Should be both fun and entertaining.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
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KR> KR Info

[Orma]

Is there any chance that someone may know someone with a radar gun that can 
clock the speed of a passing KR?  Perhaps we could invite a local LE type to 
partake in the fun.  If my  airspeed is not accurate, the speed that I tell 
you is not comparable to any other KR with a different airspeed system.

Orma
Southfield, MI
KR-2  N110LR  1984
See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm

KR> KR Info

[Phil Matheson]

The fastest KR is 170
>Orma
---
Are we talking
Ground speed
IAS
TAS.


Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
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KR> KR Info

[larry flesner]

At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
>The fastest KR is 170
>>Orma
>---
>Are we talking
>Ground speed
>IAS
>Phil Matheson
+

That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't know what the
CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density altitude of
at least a couple thousand feet.  My airspeed indicator seems
to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a little or
no wind day.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Info

[Ray Fuenzalida]

Hello Larry and everyone else.  Obviously you have all seen the news.  My poor 
city has gone to Hell in a handbasket.  I will miss the Gathering.  Don't know 
if my KR project even still exists or the warehouse it was in.
Some flooding in the house, some wind damage.  I faired better than most.  I 
have tons of camping gear, water, food etc.  Now people are breaking out guns 
because of the growing lawlessness.  It is the insane evacuees that are causing 
the problems.  Now its just wait and see.  They say it will be 2 months before 
they can restore power and water.  Even cell phones don't work because the 
towers are down.  
Oh well.  As they say, at least I'm still out there.  
Ray
New Orleans


larry flesner  wrote:
At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
>The fastest KR is 170
>>Orma
>---
>Are we talking
>Ground speed
>IAS
>Phil Matheson
+

That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't know what the
CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density altitude of
at least a couple thousand feet. My airspeed indicator seems
to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a little or
no wind day.

Larry Flesner



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KR> KR Info

[Orma]

I never did say, but maximum sustained speed in level flight.  Otherwise 
everyone would point the nose to the ground and claim something over 200.  I 
think that ground speed as reported by a GPS.  I don't want to get too 
complicated. 

KR> KR Info

[phil brookman]

best to you ray and stay with it throught these times
phil
- Original Message -
From: "Ray Fuenzalida" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info


> Hello Larry and everyone else.  Obviously you have all seen the news.  My
poor city has gone to Hell in a handbasket.  I will miss the Gathering.
Don't know if my KR project even still exists or the warehouse it was in.
> Some flooding in the house, some wind damage.  I faired better than most.
I have tons of camping gear, water, food etc.  Now people are breaking out
guns because of the growing lawlessness.  It is the insane evacuees that are
causing the problems.  Now its just wait and see.  They say it will be 2
months before they can restore power and water.  Even cell phones don't work
because the towers are down.
> Oh well.  As they say, at least I'm still out there.
> Ray
> New Orleans
>
>
> larry flesner  wrote:
> At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
> >The fastest KR is 170
> >>Orma
> >---
> >Are we talking
> >Ground speed
> >IAS
> >Phil Matheson
> +
>
> That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't know what the
> CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density altitude of
> at least a couple thousand feet. My airspeed indicator seems
> to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a little or
> no wind day.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KR Info

[Curt Britt Jr]

Ray - I graduated from LSU many moons ago.  New Orleans has always been one
of our favorite week-end get away spots.  I still have family in Baton
Rouge, Alexandria and Zowelle and they didn't get anything.  All our prayers
are with you and your family.   From Curt (new to the KRnet).
- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Fuenzalida" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info


> Hello Larry and everyone else.  Obviously you have all seen the news.  My
poor city has gone to Hell in a handbasket.  I will miss the Gathering.
Don't know if my KR project even still exists or the warehouse it was in.
> Some flooding in the house, some wind damage.  I faired better than most.
I have tons of camping gear, water, food etc.  Now people are breaking out
guns because of the growing lawlessness.  It is the insane evacuees that are
causing the problems.  Now its just wait and see.  They say it will be 2
months before they can restore power and water.  Even cell phones don't work
because the towers are down.
> Oh well.  As they say, at least I'm still out there.
> Ray
> New Orleans
>
>
> larry flesner  wrote:
> At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
> >The fastest KR is 170
> >>Orma
> >---
> >Are we talking
> >Ground speed
> >IAS
> >Phil Matheson
> +
>
> That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't know what the
> CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density altitude of
> at least a couple thousand feet. My airspeed indicator seems
> to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a little or
> no wind day.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR> KR Info

[Kenneth B. Jones]

My max speed is TAS confirmed within 1 knot (assuming I can read my ASI that 
close) by a four direction average GPS ground speed.  Measurements were 
taken after a few minutes stabilization at a density altitude of about 4000 
+/-1000 ft, on several different days.

Vs is IAS.




- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Matheson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info


> The fastest KR is 170
>>Orma
> ---
> Are we talking
> Ground speed
> IAS
> TAS.
>
>
> Phil Matheson
> mathes...@dodo.com.au
> VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
> 61 3 58833588
> Australia.( Down Under)
> See My KR2 Building Web Page at:
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html
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> http://www.vw-engines.com/
> www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
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KR> KR Info

[Brian Kraut]

Good to hear that you are O.K.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of Ray Fuenzalida
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:41 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR Info


Hello Larry and everyone else.  Obviously you have all seen the news.  My
poor city has gone to Hell in a handbasket.  I will miss the Gathering.
Don't know if my KR project even still exists or the warehouse it was in.
Some flooding in the house, some wind damage.  I faired better than most.  I
have tons of camping gear, water, food etc.  Now people are breaking out
guns because of the growing lawlessness.  It is the insane evacuees that are
causing the problems.  Now its just wait and see.  They say it will be 2
months before they can restore power and water.  Even cell phones don't work
because the towers are down.
Oh well.  As they say, at least I'm still out there.
Ray
New Orleans


larry flesner  wrote:
At 10:28 PM 9/1/05 +1000, you wrote:
>The fastest KR is 170
>>Orma
>---
>Are we talking
>Ground speed
>IAS
>Phil Matheson
+

That would be my listing and that is IAS. I don't know what the
CAS would be but the temp was hot and a density altitude of
at least a couple thousand feet. My airspeed indicator seems
to be quite accurate when compared to the GPS on a little or
no wind day.

Larry Flesner



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[Orma]

Hello Net and Attention all KR drivers.

The KR information spreadsheet has had 30 hits today.  All KR drivers should 
help the visitors have something special to look at.  Go the KR Info page at 
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm and then send me the specs on 
your KR so that I may upload the info for all the KR family to see.  If any of 
you know of a flying KR and the owner does not have internet access, contact 
them and get the info back to me for uploading.

Orma L. Robbins
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
See the KR info page at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> KR info

[Orma]

Hello Net

The KR info spreadsheet located at
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm
is starting to produce useful number.   For example the average KR-2 weight is 
596.  The average KR-2 speed is 144.5 MPH

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> KR info

[Kenneth B. Jones]

This spreadsheet could be very useful.  The more data people submit, the 
more useful it will be.  Please check it out and, if you have a flying KR, 
send your data to Orma at o...@aviation-mechanics.com

Ken Jones


- Original Message - 
From: "Orma" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:08 AM
Subject: KR> KR info


> Hello Net
> In the past I have talked about developing a database for KR information. 
> An actual database was too much for my skill level and I gave up on it. 
> Over the past week or so I have been playing with a simple spreadsheet 
> that contains KR data and web links.  I have entered a few examples into 
> the sheet as an aid in developing a finished product.  The sheet is 
> finished and is hosted at
> http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm
> In earlier discussions I was asked if the data sheet that I developed 
> would contain aircraft under construction.  I have elected to not include 
> them here.  The KR net has listings of builders and their web pages.  I 
> want this data sheet to include information about aircraft that completed 
> and flying.  My hope is that visitors to the site will be able glean from 
> the info answers to some common questions such as how fast, what type prop 
> or gear, and others.  You might be able to estimate what engine size and 
> prop combination will yield what static and cruise RPM and much more.  My 
> plan is to cut and past information that is sent to me.   If you wish to 
> have your plane listed, send me an off net post.   With over 1000 flying 
> KR, this info could prove to be of great value to both owners and builders 
> alike.
>
> Orma

KR> KR info

[Orma]

Hello Net
In the past I have talked about developing a database for KR information.  An 
actual database was too much for my skill level and I gave up on it.  Over the 
past week or so I have been playing with a simple spreadsheet that contains KR 
data and web links.  I have entered a few examples into the sheet as an aid in 
developing a finished product.  The sheet is finished and is hosted at
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm 
In earlier discussions I was asked if the data sheet that I developed would 
contain aircraft under construction.  I have elected to not include them here.  
The KR net has listings of builders and their web pages.  I want this data 
sheet to include information about aircraft that completed and flying.  My hope 
is that visitors to the site will be able glean from the info answers to some 
common questions such as how fast, what type prop or gear, and others.  You 
might be able to estimate what engine size and prop combination will yield what 
static and cruise RPM and much more.  My plan is to cut and past information 
that is sent to me.   If you wish to have your plane listed, send me an off net 
post.   With over 1000 flying KR, this info could prove to be of great value to 
both owners and builders alike.

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> KR Info

[Orma]

Hello Net

The KR Info data sheet is up and running at 
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com   
So far,
8 is the number of entries,
7 is the number of fixed gear aircraft
6 is the number of 4 cylinders
5 is the number of KR-2's
4 is the number with Diehl Gear
3 is the number with VW engines
2 is the number with nose wheels
1 is the number with Warp Drive props

Please go in and take a look for yourself.  If your KR is flying now is the 
time to submit your information

PS   if your browser is like mine, you will have to go into the setup area and 
delete old internet files to be able to download the latest update to the 
spreadsheet.

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> KR info address

[Orma]

Hello Net

Sorry gang, the first address was incomplete
The KR Info data sheet is up and running at 
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm   
So far,
8 is the number of entries,
7 is the number of fixed gear aircraft
6 is the number of 4 cylinders
5 is the number of KR-2's
4 is the number with Diehl Gear
3 is the number with VW engines
2 is the number with nose wheels
1 is the number with Warp Drive props

Please go in and take a look for yourself.  If your KR is flying now is the 
time to submit your information

PS   if your browser is like mine, you will have to go into the setup area and 
delete old internet files to be able to download the latest update to the 
spreadsheet.

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> Info note

[Bob Glidden]

Eric,Mark J and other.
I got an email and should have Mark L cowling molds in the next couple of 
weeks.I will let you all know when I'm done and ready to send them on...Bob

KR> Inappropriate Use of KR info

[Ron Freiberger]

I've received 4 emails today (from Jane Schimmel (2) and THE
SOURCE(2)) and it's obvious from the distribution list that this
person is gleaning from the KRNET mailing list to send these
political messages.  I'll tell you that I agree with the message,
but resent it coming as an intrusion of my privacy and a misuse of
the KRNet .

Jane must not be too clever, as I don't think Serge Vidal is
terribly concerned with the USA political process.

If one of you knows Jane, tell her to KNOCK IT OFF!!!

Maybe this is one of those Freeky Friday Issues?

Ron Freiberger
mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com

KR> Inappropriate Use of KR info - off subject

[F Ross]

Ron,
Probably "Jane" doesn't even know the e-mails are
going out in her name. Viruses, worms and Trojans pick
up names (and e-mail addresses) off infected computers
address books and send out messages that mimic those
people's e-mail. That's why it's hard to track them
down. I've had a lot of phony KR e-mails that look
like they come from KR netters. DO NOT OPEN them. Your
computer can get infected simply by opening the
e-mail, you don't have to open an attachement. Never
open anything from anyone you don't know.
Use a good virus protection and keep it up-dated.
Good luck,
Frank

=
Frank Ross, 
EAA Chapter 35,
San Geronimo, TX
RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK
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