This piece of information stems I believe from Liz Bartlett's book 'Lace
Villages'. How reliable this information is I wouldn't like to say. Its
supposedly the villages of Potterspury and Paulerspury, Northamptonshire
around 1891. The said diary in the book mentions Mr Harrison - is this the
My copy of the book arrived over two weeks ago but as it will be my birthday
on the 24th of this month I suggested that DH put it away as a present. But
yesterday I gave in and had to literally beg him to let me have it as I was
getting so frustrated with all the messages appearing on the list.
Hello Marilyn
If its a book from England, that is quite old, there is the little book on
point ground by Catherine Channer, first published in 1928, which has very
details illustrations. Margaret Maidment also produced one 'Bobbin Lace
Work' in the 1930's I think. Also the Eunice Arnolds
Thank you arachne members I now have confirmation of Pam's snail mail
address and also email.
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Hi Liz
I have compiled a database/spreadsheet of articles (of interest to me) from
my lace magazines.
It has five fields - the name of the mag, the year, its issue/page number,
subject/title of the article and author/source. So I can put a subject or
word in 'find' and know which issue I'm
Hi Linda
There is quite a selection of pins there of different lengths and weights
when you look closely. Almost certainly there are some 'lacemakers'
(sometimes called Long Toms) pins there.
I've collected a number of examples, mounted them on a board and displayed
them in exhibitions - I
Hello Jean
Oh yes the lovely Joyce, I also attended a number of courses with her - she
was a joy to know and so much fun. I will be purchasing a book even though
I've probably got most of the design as Joyce was ever generous.
I also knew Margaret Tite and what a lovely 'lady' she was too.
Hi Lyn
I've checked with the little book 'Queen Victoria's Wedding Dress and Lace'
by Kay Staniland and Santina Levey published, I believe, in 1983.
The book says that even then the lace flounce was too fragile to mount for
display. The flounce is 25.1/2 inches deep and four yards in
Some quite nice pictures here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1381941/Royal-Wedding-fashion-Catherine-Kate-Middleton-wears-Cartier-tiara-lent-Queen.html
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Those of you interested in old East Midlands lace bobbins might find this
article of (gruesome) interest.
It's a write up for a book written by Kate Colquhoun about Franz Muller -
subject of one of the known commemorative hanging bobbins. See Springetts
book page 15.
Hello Liz
This is Diana, Brian's partner in crime! I haven't heard from Brian for a
few days but he could well pick up your request.
I personally think that like today some of the makers of yesteryear did
spangled their work. I have hundreds of bobbins made by the Compton's and a
lot of
I've been in touch with Professor John Styles who arrange the Threads of
Feeling expo at the Foundling Hospital.
He has kindly sent me a scan of the item of lace attached to the record for
Foundling 11691 and has given me permission to share it with anyone who is
interested.
'The item 'Gown
that smaller/lighter bobbins were the norm during
that time but for working this lace surely something a little
weightier would be required - over to you Brian!
Diana
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Below is the link to the exhibition of textile item left with babies at the
Foundling Hospital in London during the late 1700's. I found one item of
rather unusual lace (Foundling 11691), some cross stitch and blackwork.
If you click on the 'slideshow playing' it will pause the rather fast
Check out these pictures of the Duchess of Windsor's Honiton lace collar
from an article in the Daily Mail newspaper today.
The appliquéd spray of flowers on the front of the dress is also Honiton
lace.
Yes I've received two as well.
Diana in Northants
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Subject: [lace] bobbins
Thank you, Brian, for posting that Ebay number for the Abbott bobbins,. As
soon
Does anyone have idea what this item is/was used for?
Listing number 290532958457
Diana
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Yesterday I bought my copy of 'History' the English magazine produced by the
BBC.
http://www.historyextra.com/blog/february-issue-out-now-0
Included is a moving, but fascinating, article 'Mothers' tokens of love'
about items left by mothers when they were forced by poverty to hand over
their
I think its exactly that - there are many biblical/religious names on old
bobbins.
Names such as Solomon, Zachariah, Moses, Joshua, Job, Jesse, Isaac, Ephraim,
Elijah, Eli and so on.
Diana in Northants
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Hello Carol
I don't think any of us were carping - I for one certainly wasn't :o)
I'm sure we all enjoyed the program, that doesn't stop us as lacemakers
showing our interest and knowledge of lace and lace making with its
traditions and history.
With best wishes
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Sorry Jean I meant to send this to the list :o)
Can I add that it originally came from the book 'Lark Rise to Candleford' by
Flora Thompson and was set in the 1870's and 80's in the north-east corner
of Oxfordshire.
From the chapter called 'Survivals' - Queenie at her lace-making was a
'Pharaoh' would possibly fit into the religious or biblical category. Though
I've seen them with King Pharaoh or Pharaoh King - which can be read either
way but I would think probably the latter.
Diana in Northants where we have snowdrops coming through in the garden -
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The first pieces that Queenie showed were edgings of Bedfordshire lace but
the piece she took from the basket was definitely Maltese - showing the tell
tale cross. On the pillow she had a nice Bucks Point edging in progress. It
was interesting that Queenie had two pillows - one bolster and the
But why would it be just a surname? This is not normal on old bobbins -
christian or full names yes but not a surname alone.
Unless it is someone famous - I have one inscribed Gladston (sic) after the
19th century English Prime Minister. A quick search in one of my bobbin
databases (of 640
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Subject: [lace] 2011 Wished-for Lace-related Book
And Diana Smith needs to do much more on the local analysis of old
photos/postcards.
Dear Laurie
I still endeavour to ID the old photographs. I was lucky enough to
receive
as a Christmas present the lovely book
And Diana Smith needs to do much more on the local analysis of old
photos/postcards.
Dear Laurie
I still endeavour to ID the old photographs. I was lucky enough to receive
as a Christmas present the lovely book 'Textile Treasures of the WI'
(Women's Institute) - published by The National
enjoyable at such a bargain price.
Diana Smith in Northamptonshire
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Morning Brian
Levi Makepeace - Born Nash in Buckinghamshire c1838. Wife Mary, born
Uffington, a lacemaker. Levi was an Ag Lab later a blacksmith in a foundry.
Some useless info ;o)
Diana in a freezing cold Northants
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But Brian you've now got more than all of us!!
Diana in a very cold Northamptonshire
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Subject: [lace] everything and collaboration and thanks
I have just shared
Hi Natalie
In the Lace Society magazine number 101 (1988) there was an article by
Christine Springett on stocking fronts. She had found, at various times,
three similar single diamond shaped supposed stocking fronts but none of
them matched. Their partners could have been lost or I supposed
Yes I think the Chantilly is at Geraardsbergen.
Where there is also the museum of the Manikin Pis. Replicas of the statue
line the walls wearing different outfits - one wearing lace and carrying a
large flemish lace bobbin.
When I was there a few years ago there was also a small shop round the
Acorn get their name from their bobbins having an acorn tail. 'Rosette'
could possibly be a Rick Sutton (Acorn).
I've suggested to Brian that the multi church window and the blue spiral are
by Stephen Pearce and the modern staircase is a John Ford.
Diana in Northants
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Alice-May Bullock mentions thumpers etc., in her book Lace And Lace making.
Though I doubt the research was her own, only repeating from other sources.
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Some person, quite authoritative, wrote an article... I think in
Lace.. that really told us what Thumpers and Huguenots etc were
correctly named. Sure they are a South Bucks bobbin in the uk genres.
I do not seem to have a copy of it.
Pam Nottingham published at least one article in
I'll send you a copy Brian.
Oops perhaps I shouldn't have said that - still it is in the cause of modern
research!
It was issue number 77 page 31.
Diana
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Sorry Clay my reply was meant for the list.
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Subject: Re: [lace] Spangled Bobbins
I think many of us have heard that these
were travel
A Archer was Anthony - Tony.
The late Ken Smith of Wellingborough, Northants made wonderful Tunbridge
ware type bobbins with dozons of tiny pieces of different woods and
laminates.
John Cummins daughters name was Sian.
Martin Laundon in Northamptonshire made lovely brass bobbins and some
Oh yes I would second that. I have some beautiful bobbins painted by Mary
Niven. Another painter of bobbins was Ann Jarrett who painted bottom beads
to match the design on the bobbin. I also recall artist Heather Power who
always travelled to lace days with Sarah Jones. Christine Osborn was
Yes and Mercy Hornsby turned a few as well.
Diana in Northants
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Subject: [lace] RE: bobbin makers
No one has seemed to have mentioned the late Dennis
I have few of those East Midlands and Honiton types.
They were sold by J J Ford, who I think were the bobbin makers, and at the
time there was a very long waiting list, but I never did know who the artist
was.
Diana
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Does anyone remember Paul Durst - an American I believe -who lived in Wales
with his wife Doris.
We travelled many miles out of our way when on holiday so that I could
purchase some of his lovely bone bobbins.
Diana in Northants UK
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Hi Diana
Can I assume that Chris is catching you up!!
I need to cut back a bit Now where have I heard that before ;o)
I'm still suffering with the arthritis in my foot. The first pair of inserts
for my shoes got lost in the post. The specialist did new moulds - even
though he assured me I
Embarrassing moment - sorry about that the email went to the wrong
destination!! Please delete.
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Christine told me (hush, hush) their intentions some weeks ago when they
were probably in the process of photographing or scanning the bobbins.
I should imagine they will be selling them individually which I'm sure is
the best plan as trying to sell, what is left of, the large collection in
Hello Aurelia
A quick search found that A.M.S. was Miss Mary Sharp. The preface in the
book gives A.M.S. as living at Ufton Court, a beautiful Elizabethan house in
Berkshire, in 1899.
Try :
http://www.berkshirehistory.com/castles/ufton_court.html
Another intriguing ?lace? item on eBay No 280531829911.
Any thoughts anyone?
Diana in Northants (where just a few - much needed - drops of rain are
falling)
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I stumbled across this article - it maybe of interest to some!
http://www.bbchomesandantiques.com/feature/lace
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I have an original postcard photograph of this picture. As well as the
Bedfordshire cuffs and headpiece she is wearing a lacy shawl - could be
knitted.
If anyone would like a scanned copy please contact me as I have no idea how
to put it on webshots.
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Subject: Re: [lace] Edward VIII of England made lace?
I remember my father saying how he saw the gentleman being
I wonder if any member can help me. I've just acquired a lace pattern book
published in 1966 - that I think could be Danish - with the title
'Nyplayksen Opas'. Other wording 'Kolmas paines' - 'Sisaltaa 108 mallia'.
I'd prefer to confirm this before listing it on eBay.
Any help would be much
I just stumbled across this interesting site - great for a beginner. Bright
and colourful and I just love the Scottie Dog!
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm
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Hello Diane
My copy of Chats on Old Lace is a 1919 third impression. Previous
impressions are dated 1908 and 1912.
Hope this helps.
Diana
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I don't get a lot of time to make lace these days but when I do its usually
Bucks and I have a stash of old tried and tested threads that I can use so
haven't invested in any new ones for years.
The thread I need is for fine Torchon so its a nice surprise that there is
such a range of colours
Sorry - just a typing error by me I think :(
Diana
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Subject: Re: [lace] Tanne 50 equivalent
Dear Lacefriends,
sorry but I got confused when
Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply to my request. Though
completely new to me the Aurifil sounds just perfect.
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Please can anyone recommend an equivalent to Madeira Tanne 50?
Many thanks
Diana in Northants where the days at last seem to be getting longer -
yippee!!
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I'm working on some research into lacemakers/lacemaking in the East Midlands
and on several occasions the name Arthur A. Carnes has cropped up. He is
acknowledged in the book by Thomas Wright and is also mentioned in the book
by Miss Anne Buck on Thomas Lester and also her book In the Cause of
I'm looking for a pattern for a wedding garter (with instructions -not for
making the lace but the finishing) and wonder if anyone on arachne can help.
Many thanks
Diana in Northants (where a hard frost took the temperature down to minus 5
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I looked at my copy of the reprinted book on Tonder Lace by Emil Hanover and
though I could find no thistles the same general design layout is found in
some of the
laces he describes as Tonder Lille types.
'Regency Point' has no gimps around the outside of cloth areas so I think I
would
rule
I don't know where they got the info for that picture and the one of the old
gent also making lace. I have a very large archive of photographs of
Midlands lacemakers recorded with any information.
The lady is Mrs Burton of Kempston in Bedfordshire, c1912. The male
lacemaker is from
I can also agree with what Clay has written.
From a Belgian friend of a friend regarding signing the petition and sending
money her words were 'DON'T DO IT' .
Diana in Northants
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Has anyone else noticed this person on eBay selling handmade lace edged
handkerchiefs for £14.98 each, there are several listings as 'Buy it Now'
with 10 available of each listing.
Registered as a business in Southampton. Judging by the blurb by
'karizma-lace' they don't know a lot about
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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace hankies on ebay
Diana,
Item number 250531072130 then click on See other items.
Interesting. Whilst this item is still there, there are now
I agree they are not by Diane Miller, and I don't think they are all by the
same maker.
There could some by Malcolm Fowler and also maybe Bob Martin.
Diana in Northamptonshire
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Many thanks to everyone who replied, I have made contact with Nicky.
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Does anyone have an email address for Nicky Howener-Townsend - the author of
the book 'Suffolk lace and the lacemakers of Eye'? Or alternatively could
someone pass on a message.
I purchased the book at a lace day on Saturday - very interesting - and I
may have some info for her.
Diana in
I'm sure someone produced a folder a few years ago, of instructions and
patterns for Mechelen Lace very much like the Binche syllabus ones.
I had a copy but sold it in eBay when I was having a sort out of my book
shelves :o(
Diana in showery Northants
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More mystery items on eBay suggested as being lace bobbins. Item number
370269613920.
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Though the dealer does say handmade and hand sewn nowhere does the word
'bobbin' appear - just splitting hairs ;o)
Whatever it is the design is amazing.
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This could be the 'type' of thing you mean - it might be worth asking re
shipping.
http://www.euroffice.co.uk/i/7GB/5-Star-Premier-3-Flap-Elasticated-File-Polypropylene-Dark-Blue-Pack--5?AFF=PR908838
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These on ebay say they will ship internationally.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PK-5-CLEAR-A4-3-FLAP-ELASTICATED-FOLIO-FILES-Q-CONNECT_W0QQitemZ370159665281QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Office_Office_Supplies_Stationery_ET?hash=item562f3c4081_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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It looks like it could be something to slide under the needlelace while
working to raise a small area. Springetts used to give away a small
inscribed 'rolling pin' on their needlelace courses for this purpose.
Of course I may be wrong!!
Diana in Northants
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An interesting item on eBay. Click on the link.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-VICTORIAN-BONE-THREAD-WINDER-HOLDER-or-BOBBIN_W0QQitemZ260455836135QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Crafts_Sewing_Supplies_MJ?hash=item3ca460a9e7_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de
Dillmont by the number printed inside the book.
I have a copy with the number 630 can anyone on arachne tell me the date
this edition was published? An interesting addition is the name Winifred
Ward, Art Needlework Depot,
, London S.E.11.
Thank you for the info.
Best wishes
Diana - we had a torrential downpour but no storm.
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I had a such shock as at exactly the second I clicked on this link the power
here went off, alarms were going off all around and I thought I had
triggered a major shut down :-( I was so relieved when the power returned
after about an hour!
So please forgive me if I don't have another go!!
I received my Lace magazine (about two weeks ago) but still await the
newsletter from the Lace Society - has anyone received theirs yet?
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About 26 years ago I stumbled upon lace at a meeting of the 'Young Wives'
where the speaker was a local teacher of lacemaking - she came, I saw and I
was conquered!! The next day the very helpful speaker loaned me pillow and
bobbins and I was off. I knew straight away that I wanted to make
A gentleman named Mr Shaw I believe from Doncaster was making a lot of bone
bobbins, I would think during the early nineties.
Also Tony Archer (later son, Ben) - if you had to join a long waiting list
then it would have almost certainly been him.
Good luck Carrie.
Diana in Northamptonshire
The inner edge is chemical, the outer edge looks to be Valenciennes -
possibly handmade.
Diana
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In deepest, darkest Northamptonshire its sky blue pink with black and white
spots!
Diana
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I collect, and have studied, old lacemaking equipment used in the East
Midlands and I've never seen a winder with this configuration, usually old
bobbin winders are used sideways on with the wheel handle to the right and
the cup to hold the bobbin on the left - I have three all like this in my
Another strange lace bobbin? on ebay - check out item number 180351848358.
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Possibly the length of the leash is also reflected in the way each of us
handles
the bobbins - we develop our own 'style'.
Beginners to lacemaking tend to be trying to watch the lace, threads and
hands, as confidence grows the hands take on a way of working by
themselves - like autopilot ;o).
I'm a bit different in my choice as I wouldn't grab a 'how-to' book - I'd
take Thomas Wright's The Romance of the Lace Pillow - so much history and
info. Though I would still like to take the bobbins, thread etc.
Diana in Northants where its misty and murky
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A request for Jeri (or anyone else with the know how) - I know your forte is
the preservation of costume and textiles but what recommendations do you
have for storing old wood and bone lace bobbins?
I know what some of you will say - that bobbins are to be used - and I would
agree to a point.
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Don't store them - use them!
Dee Palin
Warwickshire
As I said I know what some of you will say - that bobbins are to be
Hello Jeanette
Yes that would be Luton though I'm not sure the room setting is still there.
I think the only other such setting was at the former Alby Lace Museum in
Norfolk.
The story regarding a worker only producing one or two patterns in her life
I've heard before and find rather hard
Also beware of folds and creases - acid free tissue can be crunched up into
tube or sausage shapes and inserted into sleeves etc.
Diana in Northants
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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:27 PM
Certainly Miss Channer as the daughter of a country parson would have fitted
into this category. Part of her education took place in Switzerland but she
went on to learn the craft of lacemaking to the extent that she became the
'expert' most lacemakers would recognise by name. She was a member
May I make one small point regarding the 'Channer' mat. As far as is known
Miss Channer designed but did not work it, the example shown in old
photographs was worked by Mrs Dixon of Clapham, Bedford, at one of the
classes of the Bedford Technical Institute c1926.
The mat is in the collection
Another version of the message occasionally found on old lace bobbins
XXUR
XXUB
ICUR
XX4ME
Diana in Northamptonshire where there is a very chilly wind blowing - March
winds etc
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Hello Brenda
I'm doing as the expert tells me and I've started winding with the Egyptian
cotton 80 - thanks for the advice.
Regards
Diana
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From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
To: Diana Smith dian...@tiscali.co.uk
Cc: Arachne lace@arachne.com
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Can anyone suggest some equivalent threads to Finca 80 please.
Diana in Northants where its bright and sunny but a bit on the chilly side.
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I'm not keen on the Brok threads so much prefer the Tanne 80 option.
I shall be using it for a floral Beds motif - adapted by Anita Wilkinson
from one of the old units prickings - so adding an extra pair here or there
shouldn't be a problem.
Thank you to the people who offered suggestions.
Some more 'I don't know what they are so I'll call them bobbins' on eBay.
Item number 160318638519
Diana in Northants
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Hello Leonard
..and page 30 shows the lovely Paisley Pear lace (from Northampton
Museums collection) with the Pear outlined with tallies.
I would like to add my compliments to David on a beautiful piece of work - I
love the photograph of work in progress which shows you have
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