[lace] Re: London
Hello Everybody, Just to let you know I am back, save and sain. We wer so lucky no one drop of rain no snowflake but lots of sun and two days very stormy and icecold wind. It was warvellous. Tel you later about lace, painting walking and so on. Greetings Ilske from HAmburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Symbols for elements
Dear Dina, As far as I know only the sun and the moon are symbols between lots of animals and the human beeing itself. When we travelled Canada I bought a little booklet about this Indian Art with the title Looking at Indian Art of the Northwest Coast from Hilary Stewart. perhaps you could find this one. Eveything is wonderfull explained in it. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ally Pally Globe
I managed to get to Ally Pally last Thursday by train and coach. Had a lovely day, only snag so many vendors, not enough time to take stock what they had. It was nice to see the Polish Lacemaker at the Lace Circle Stand, plus there was Polish lace to see as well. Even bought a couple of Polish lace bobbins. I did not buy any books have too many already. I looked for Angela's book, Batsford did not have it, I might have been tempted. What is nice about Ally Pally is all the other crafts that are there. I loved the machine made dresses from Australia, oh the copes that were made for the Archbishop of Canterbury for the Millennium. I often think that you can get ideas for lace from other crafts. Oh I saw Twelfth Night at The Globe with my grandson, there was lots of lace on most of the costumes, plus Blackwork. There is also an exhibition there that you pay to go and see of clothes that have been used in previous productions, yes with hand made lace too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Annette Gill Sent: 12 October 2003 20:18 To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Ally Pally Did anyone go to The Knitting and Stitching Show at Ally Pally this weekend? I came away loaded down with lace books - it was my first chance since I started lacemaking this summer to see a decent range of lace books. I got the first of the Tonderknipplinger pattern books but I haven't worked out yet whether it's more difficult than Bucks Point. I've just started Bucks and am already on the lookout for other point ground laces I can attempt - that's the style I really love. (I wish I could say I like Honiton, since I'm from the West Country, but the motif-type laces don't appeal.) I found a second-hand book on Downton lace - has anyone tried that? Are there any other point ground laces that aren't too difficult? Having spent a fortune at Ally Pally, I dread to think what I'll spend next Sunday at the Tonbridge lace fair. And then Birmingham next month... Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Tamara's lace
Tamara, Just went into your new website. YOur lac is gorgeous. Who cares too much about the fine points of technique when one can be as creative as that! Leave the technique to people liek me who can only copy, not invent!!! Keep putting those pictures in, will you? i.e. keep making new lace :-) = Helene, the froggy from Melbourne http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Ally Pally
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 07:59 PM, lace-digest wrote: Did anyone go to The Knitting and Stitching Show at Ally Pally this weekend? Yes, I went on Sunday - and spent a fortune on a huge amount of new threads. I'd hoped to find one or two but I've just added about 40 to the Addendum2 list. I haven't tried using any of them yet, but the one I'm most interested in using is the hemp which I guess will work up similar to linen and I've got ideas beginning to go around my head for a project mixing it with Vuorelma linen which is of a very similar size. I also ordered a sample folder of Japanese threads. When it arrives I will think about ordering some of the silk wrapped stainless steel thread. There were a couple of knitted garments on display and they didn't feel as stiff as I expected, but I've no idea how it would handle for BL, or any other technique. Are there any other point ground laces that aren't too difficult? All point ground laces are of a similar type based on the net ground and working angle of more than 45 degrees. They all have a similar level of difficulty, with regular/geometric/simpler patterns through to elaborate floral designs. IMO the thing which makes PG 'harder' than, say, torchon is the fact that PG is usually worked at a small scale with fine thread. Try enlarging the pattern a bit so that you can more easily see what you are doing, and adjust the thread accordingly, but don't use crochet/tatting cotton as the double spinning means that it won't look right with all the twists that PG lace requires. 10 wraps of thread should equal the distance between two footedge pinholes Having spent a fortune at Ally Pally, I dread to think what I'll spend next Sunday at the Tonbridge lace fair. I'll be at Tonbridge too - manning the Lace Guild stand, so please come and say hello to me. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ Supporting the [EMAIL PROTECTED] campaign - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Symbols for Elements
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 07:59 PM, Dina wrote: My lace class is making a group entry for the Lace Guild's Myth Mystery competition and our piece is a freestanding totem pole. Can any of our Canadian spiders tell me if the First Nations use symbols for earth, air, fire and water which would be used on totem poles and if so what they are, as I've looked on the net but can't find anything (maybe I'm looking in the wrong places) and our local UK library is not into things Canadian. Dina Back in 1995 The Lace Guild/John Bull Trophy exhibition's theme was 'The Elements and around that time I found a 2nd hand book by Adrian Frutiger Signs Symbols. This is what he has to say about Pre-Columbian American scripts: The examples of the script cultures of the new World so far discovered are few in comparison to those of 'old Europe' and about 4,000 years less ancient. From the Incas, only the preliminary stages of script formation are known in the form of knotted strings, whereas teh Aztecs and the Mayas from the region of present-day Mexico have left fascinating examples of scripts. The autonomous culture of Central America was suddenly and cruelly interrupted in the course of its development by the conquests of the Spanish colonists. At this time the script was half way between the pictorial and the phoetic. That, plus three pages on Aztec and Maya scripts are the only references to the Americas in a book of 660 pages. However, it seems that most ideas of earth, wind, fire, and water as the elements goes back to ancient Greece; and there are two sets of symbols, as used in mediaeval Britain: fire: triangle with horizontal base water: inverted triangle with horizontal side at top air: like fire with horizontal dividing line earth: like water with horizontal dividing line world: two superimposed triangles (star of David) fire: circle water: circle divided in half horizontally air: circle with small square in the middle earth: circle divided into four by horizontal perpendicular lines (upright cross) world: circle with small cross on top (upside down version of female) Sorry it's not really related to Canadian First Nations. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ Supporting the [EMAIL PROTECTED] campaign - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ithaca - long
Hi All, Sumac and I are back from Ithaca! We had a fabulous time!! Tamara won't get home for a few days but the rest of us will try to make up for her silence. I had so much fun! It was great to meet more arachnes and other lace makers and to see the ones I've met before again. I took a class in Needlelace and learned so much. Because I've practiced a lot on Battenberg my tension was pretty good on many of the Brussels variations. The teacher, Gretchen Allgeier, was very good at explaining the different tension needed in them. And I have Peas in my Pea Stitch That's one I've tried numerous times and have always ended up with a snarl of thread. I had many Eureka moments - one when I realized we were going to cover the cordonet with three more threads *and* buttonhole stitch. That looks much better and gives you a little leeway if the cordonet (of two threads) is a little crooked G. It's so great having a teacher!! Many of the NL books I have do not have complete directions and, of course, all the hints can't fit into one book. I also got a copy of Angela's book on Romanian Point Lace!! A VERY kind arachne gave up the last copy Holly Van Sciver had on Saturday (she was about to buy it) G. The book is fantastic!! The history is very interesting and it is neat to see the arachne list thanked in the beginning and individual arachnes thanked in the text G. The stitches are amazing!! Lots and lots of variations I've not seen in the NL and B'berg books (antique and new) that I have. The patterns are lovely and the different cords add a lovely touch to the designs. Holly's DH Gerry was a little surprised at the interest in that book until I explained that we arachnes have been hearing about it since conception so we're anxious to see it G. Pompi Parry's talk on Normandy Blonde and Polychrome de Courseulles was very interesting on Saturday night. Sumac and I missed Pat Read's talk on Milanese on Saturday afternoon. We had gone for a quick visit to Border's Bookstore nearby to look at the magazines and suddenly it was 1:00pm and we'd missed the start of the talk : ( I did visit that classroom (among others) and the pieces of lace Pat Read had brought were breathtaking. What sticks in my mind is the dragon done in white and in colors...lovely! The lace exhibited on Saturday in the sales room was also quite wonderful. One of my favorites was a bookmark done by Cathy Belleville. It had an exquisite Great Blue Heron looking up at a full moon. And there was also a piece of the Olive branch design we looked at on the 'net a few months ago. Very special to see that in person! I've just been working more on my Needlelace. My class piece is nearly done and my Fiberarts group meets on Thursday so I hope to have it finished to show them. Of course, they'll also be interested in seeing a work-in-progress so I'd better start a new piece right away VBG. Now I'd better get back to real life. But eating, drinking and sleeping lace for three days is so much more fun!! Jane in Vermont who is thrilled with Peas in her Pea Stitch G [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hamilton Lace
Hi Adele and Everyone, An excellent article on Hamilton Lace is Lace-making in Hamilton by Jessie H. Lochhead, M.A. published by Hamilton Handbooks and Hamilton Public Libraries and Museum Committee in 1971. According to the article the lace could represent the coarsest torchon or the finest Vaenciennes with endless variations between Vibeke Ervo very kindly gave me the article. Best wishes and keep bobbin' along from Avril in Denmark, where it has been the most beautiful Autumn day, with a touch of our first ground frost this morning, then glorious sunshine and a wonderful spectacle of Autumn colours. -- And on the 8th day, God created golf courses and lacemakers Avril Bayne Denmark Lately I have been reading my copy of Mrs. Lowes' Chats on Old Lace and Needlework and she has this comment: Scotch lace can hardly be said to exist. At one time a coarse kind of network lace called Hamilton lace was made, and considerable money was obtained by it, but it never had a fashion, and deservedly so. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ithaca - long
Dear Jane -- Wonderful piece you wrote about Ithaca. Almost consoles us forlorn types who couldn't get to go. What is VBG? I tried and tried. The best I could do is: Very Bad Girl. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Ally Pally
I'm glad I'm not the only who can't control my credit card when I'm at Ally Pally! The Textile Gallery alone is worth the price of admission - there are always so many gorgeous things there, to look at and to buyand to get ideas from. I was fascinated by the display of dolls, and inevitably bought a book and pattern to try cloth-doll making myself. I walked straight past the hemp stall, not realising there might be possibilities for lacemaking with it. I did get some silk thread from Jacqui Carey which I will try lacing with. Thanks for the tip about not using crochet/tatting thread for PG - I wouldn't have known it wouldn't look right. Incidentally, I've found your book very useful for learning about threads. When I joined the Lace Guild on Saturday, I was given a free back issue of the magazine and found a review of your book in it. I was astonished to read that the reviewer thought it would only be of interest to teachers - I'm a near beginner and have already found it very useful in selecting thread equivalents, and working out how thick and thread and gimp to use for the pricking I had, based on distance between footside holes. And the information about the different types of threads at the beginning was mostly new to me. So, thanks for a very useful book! See you at Tonbridge, Regards, Annette in London - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...I haven't tried using any of them yet, but the one I'm most interested in using is the hemp which I guess will work up similar to linen and I've got ideas beginning to go around my head for a project mixing it with Vuorelma linen which is of a very similar size. I also ordered a sample folder of Japanese threads. When it arrives I will think about ordering some of the silk wrapped stainless steel thread. There were a couple of knitted garments on display and they didn't feel as stiff as I expected, but I've no idea how it would handle for BL, or any other technique. Are there any other point ground laces that aren't too difficult? All point ground laces are of a similar type based on the net ground and working angle of more than 45 degrees. They all have a similar level of difficulty, with regular/geometric/simpler patterns through to elaborate floral designs. IMO the thing which makes PG 'harder' than, say, torchon is the fact that PG is usually worked at a small scale with fine thread. Try enlarging the pattern a bit so that you can more easily see what you are doing, and adjust the thread accordingly, but don't use crochet/tatting cotton as the double spinning means that it won't look right with all the twists that PG lace requires. 10 wraps of thread should equal the distance between two footedge pinholes Having spent a fortune at Ally Pally, I dread to think what I'll spend next Sunday at the Tonbridge lace fair. I'll be at Tonbridge too - manning the Lace Guild stand, so please come and say hello to me. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ Supporting the [EMAIL PROTECTED] campaign - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] PG lace
Dear Annette, ... I've also done some Downton lace - again, not difficult, although traditionally, like Chantilly, the headside is worked on the opposite side to Bucks. But watch the Downton patterns carefully, as they occasionally have a little Torchon technique or two thrown in!! Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) I'm intrigued to hear of an English lace being worked with the headside on the right, as on the Continent. I suppose there wouldn't be a problem with reversing the pricking and doing it the way I'm used to? (the photocopier at work can reverse images) Or would that make life difficult in some obscure way I'm not aware of? Would the lace police come in the middle of the night to take me away? :) Regards, Annette, London - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] PG lace
I'm intrigued to hear of an English lace being worked with the headside on the right, as on the Continent. I suppose there wouldn't be a problem with reversing the pricking and doing it the way I'm used to? (the photocopier at work can reverse images) Or would that make life difficult in some obscure way I'm not aware of? Would the lace police come in the middle of the night to take me away? :) Regards, Annette, London Annette - the only problem might be if you were trying to follow the working diagram, which will also show the footside on the left. I tried Downton when I was very new to lacemaking, and found it easier to turn the pricking round and work as shown in the working diagram till I knew what I was doing. On the other hand, maybe the lace police might take you to Dorchester, then you'd get there sooner!! Bertha Kemp, in her book Downton Lace, describes a method of hanging numerous bobbins together off a pin behind the start of the work, then separating them to work the first row of pinholes, rather in the style of some of the Continental laces, such as Flanders, so I'm speculating that the custom of Downton lace having the footside on the left started because the original lacemakers were taught or influenced by continental lacemakers. Regards, Ruth Budge http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thanks
Hi Brenda, I am sorry to post this to chat and not to you personally but I do not have an e-mail address for you !! Many thanks for my parcel that arrived today. My new and very special bear has joined the other that you sent me and they look very good together. Thank you so much for being my secret pal. I have looked forward to receiving your parcel every month and have never been disappointed !! Perhaps you could send me your e-mail address and I could then write to you at length. Many, many thanks once again, Anne To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
