Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary-history

[robinlace]

Hi, Devon and fellow listmembers

I just tuned into this thread.  I joined Arachne sometime during its first 
year.  I remember when someone downloaded the membership list from 'the major', 
and found we had reached a membership of 400!  Most impressive, at the time.  
For a number of years, a member made anniversary bobbins and shuttles.  
Eventually it became too much of a burden and someone arranged for a bobbin 
maker not on the list (different one each year) to do the job.

As the century close approached, we discussed doing a millenium lace exhibit.  
It never got going.  But Arachne '98 did.  That was a face-to-face convention 
that Pat Hallam and Margaret (I'm blanking on her last name) were willing to 
put together.  We met at the U of Nottingham, had classes (like IOLI 
convention), a few vendors (different ones each evening), a tour of lace 
activity in the city (a remember the machine-knitted lace factory very well), 
and nightly raffles.  Another thing we did was try to raise funds for Luton 
museum to refurbish their famous Lace Dealer's Pattern Book.  We held a raffle 
among ourselves.  As I remember, they didn't need our contribution by the time 
we'd put it all together and I don't remember what the money went to.  Maybe 
just a donation to the museum?  Someone else may chime in on this.

We discussed whether we should be called arachnids (I absolutely refuse to be 
thought of as a spider!!), or arachneans.  There was also a thread back 
then about how many of us were in science or math, although I don't remember 
gaming or coding coming up much.

Back then I was a constant contributor to the discussions.  But life has gotten 
too hectic lately--I admit I often delete many of the Arachne messages and I 
rarely talk on the list any more, but thought I should put my 2 cents in on 
this one.  I feel like an old fogey sitting in my rocking chair reminiscing 
about the "good old days" and chewing my gums.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)


 DevonThein  wrote: 
I was at an Arachne gathering at the Salt Lake City IOLI Convention and I
realized that many of the  younger members were computer gamers and some of
the older members seem to have been part of the Dungeons and Dragons crowd. 

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Re: [lace] Happy Anniversary

[Angel]

Well, I have been with Arachne since the 1st year! Not sure which month because 
it was a painful year (fell off a ladder 25 feet to a cement floor in Dec 1995) 
I discovered bobbin lacemaking as an activity early in 1996 and was searching 
for a resource. Ran into Arachne, probably pretty close after its inception! So 
many people back then that are still loyal Arachne members! Yes, a glorious 
Anniversary! I am still loyal as all get out though not as active as then! 
Still reading posts and occasionally piping up!
Thanks for the anniversary heads up David!

Cearbhael 

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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:00 AM, David C Collyer  wrote:
> 
> 4/12 is the Arachne anniversary.  hope everyone is having a good lace day.
> 
> 

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[lace] My AOL message failed to get past Arachne's panix block this morning

[Jeri Ames]

As usual, I sent a lot of gmail users bcc's this morning in connection with
the wonderful weaving story from The New York Times.  The main message,
addressed to lace@arachne.com , failed to be delivered.  Sent the rejection
notice to Avital.  Am sure she is as frustrated as I am.


Only the people who are on my bcc list got the message, and only Nancy
responded to me.  Therefore, I asked her (as a personal favor) to please
forward my memo from her e-mail address to you all.
 
Somehow, not all of The Times address got picked up for you.  Others have
since chimed in, and I am happy you have had the opportunity to see the gold
silk shirt that is 1,000 years old and estimated to sell at Sotheby's London
for $700,000.  It is delicious.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/12/style/thousand-year-old-shirt-
sothebys.html
 
This is a test to see if tonight's memo from my AOL account gets through to
Arachne subscribers almost 12 hours later.  Not being sent again to my
private list who got bcc's this morning.
 
It is possible the server for Arachne was not in service this morning, due to
a power outage or some other reason.  That has happened before.   Members
have been discussing our long history today.  Liz has been very generous in
providing a server to us.  Perhaps we should consider how we can update
dinosaur-era computer programming ?  Do we have a volunteer programmer and
someone with a server to share that we could transition to, and could our
existing files be kept intact ?
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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RE: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[Brian Lemin]

HI, 

I have no idea when I joined or how I joined, but I do know this that my
early effort to study bobbins were a very collegiate approach with Arachne
members.  I have always remembered your willing help and contributions.
There is no doubt as to the value I put on my membership of this
enthusiastic group.

Thank you all very much.

Brian

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[Marianne Gallant]

Here is the shortened  link: https://nyti.ms/2JGHx7A

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC Canada
m...@shaw.ca
http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/

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[lace] Arachne Anniversary

[Janice Blair]

I joined Arachne in late 1995 and made lots of friends throughout the world.
 I even visited their homes in Canada, Denmark, New Zealand and the UK.  It
is nice to put faces to names and is something we always do at our Arachne get
togethers at the IOLI convention.  I believe the first one was in Maryland
where I met Tamara.  We organized it in a local restaurant and I think we had
12 or 13 present. Restaurants are too small for us now and too hard to find in
another part of the country. Now we have had more than 30 attendees some years
and as we have a free raffle where people bring whatever they want to share,
 we quite often have enough prizes for everyone to take a reminder home.
I have not heard from any local Arachne for the San Antonio get together. Has
anyone else got news for us about a meeting time and place?
I love the information that we can share and have taken part in the Christmas
Exchange for many years, trying to come up with a new pattern each year.
 Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[N.A. Neff]

I'm not sure what to say. The whole thing comes from Jeri Ames, not me, but
the link works for me. Try copying the entire URL and pasting it into your
browser. The link may be getting truncated by a line break in your email.

Nancy
Connecticut,  USA

On Apr 13, 2018 15:16, "Helene Ulrich"  wrote:

> Nancy, I tried the link provided.  Was told it could not be found, they
> seem to have lost it (their statement)
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 1:20 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:
>
>> Forwarded per Jeri's request.
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: "Jeri Ames" 
>> Date: Apr 13, 2018 08:28
>> Subject: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt
>> To: 
>> Cc:
>>
>> Dear Arachne subscribers and my personal friends (bcc'd),  This came to me
>> from a young non-lacemaker.  Hope you think this is close enough to our
>> lace interests to share.  Some of us are, after all, interested in silk,
>> design, color, history, conservation of textiles, and rare textiles that
>> make our hearts sing.   Photos are wonderful, but when I tried to print
>> this article they did not appear.  If you want to learn more, you could
>> search Sotheby's London auction, and if you find something irresistible -
>> please share another address.
>>
>> From The New York Times:
>>
>> This 1,000-Year-Old Shirt Has a $700,000 Story to Tell
>>
>> Why would a shirt be worth so much money? Find out.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/12/style/
>> thousand-year-old-shirt-sothebys.html
>>
>>
>> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
>> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>>
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Re: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[N.A. Neff]

Sorry!!! I'm on my phone and forgot to trim that last post. Oh no! Here
comes Avital!! *ducks*

Nancy

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[lace] 23 years

[hottleco]

David, since you are the only person I have ever known to play Carnegie Hall, 
please provide details!  Some Arachneans may want tickets. Be sure to put in 
some lace content so it's legal.  LOL. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA

iPhone

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Re: [lace] How did Arachne start?

[Carolina de la Guardia]

I remember when I first discovered Arachne, exploring "lace" through an 
internet searcher as Yahoo, it was back in 2000.
I miss those years of my first steps in lacemaking and the excitement of 
contacting lacemakers of all over the world in a group that took the 
bobbin lace from a formal point of view. A group always willing to help 
and share their knowledge. Right now I come to mind lacemakers like Bev 
Walker, Miriam Gidron, Jeri Ames, Helen Ulrich, Lorelley Halley, Lorri 
Ferguson, Adele Shaak, Shirley Trigelles, Alice "in Oregon", Jean 
Leader, Pat Hallam, Tamara Duvall, Liz Reynolds, and so many others...
I think remember that was Liz who launched, and has been keepìng on all 
these years the server "Majordomo", correct me if I'm wrong Thank 
you for letting us stay in touch all this time, and Avital for 
moderating us.
It is true that other social media as Instagram, and especially 
Facebook,  has caused us to disperse,  especially for the advantage that 
represents to share visually laces and techniques by pictures and videos 
, however it is also true that many of us are still here.
A very especial thought for all the Arachneans who are no longer here.
Kind regards and a Happy Anniversary for all of us!

Carolina de la Guardia
Barcelona -Spain-
www.carolgallego.com

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[lace] Trimming

[J-D Hammett]

Terrible sorry Avital. In a hurry, friend is ill. Promise to do better next
time.

Kindest regards,

Joepie.

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RE: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[J-D Hammett]

The address for the page has gone over two lines and you need to copy the
whole (from   https:to   .html )   and paste it in the box.



Hope that helps.



Happy lace making,



Joepie.






From: owner-l...@arachne.com  on behalf of Helene
Ulrich 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 8:16:35 PM
To: Nancy Neff; Arachne
Subject: Re: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

Nancy, I tried the link provided.  Was told it could not be found, they
seem to have lost it (their statement)

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 1:20 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Forwarded per Jeri's request.
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Jeri Ames" 
> Date: Apr 13, 2018 08:28
> Subject: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt
> To: >
> Cc:
>
> Dear Arachne subscribers and my personal friends (bcc'd),  This came to me
> from a young non-lacemaker.  Hope you think this is close enough to our
> lace interests to share.  Some of us are, after all, interested in silk,
> design, color, history, conservation of textiles, and rare textiles that
> make our hearts sing.   Photos are wonderful, but when I tried to print
> this article they did not appear.  If you want to learn more, you could
> search Sotheby's London auction, and if you find something irresistible -
> please share another address.
>
> From The New York Times:
>
> This 1,000-Year-Old Shirt Has a $700,000 Story to Tell
>
> Why would a shirt be worth so much money? Find out.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/12/style/
> thousand-year-old-shirt-sothebys.html
>
>
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>
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Re: [lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[Helene Ulrich]

Nancy, I tried the link provided.  Was told it could not be found, they
seem to have lost it (their statement)

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 1:20 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Forwarded per Jeri's request.
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Jeri Ames" 
> Date: Apr 13, 2018 08:28
> Subject: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt
> To: 
> Cc:
>
> Dear Arachne subscribers and my personal friends (bcc'd),  This came to me
> from a young non-lacemaker.  Hope you think this is close enough to our
> lace interests to share.  Some of us are, after all, interested in silk,
> design, color, history, conservation of textiles, and rare textiles that
> make our hearts sing.   Photos are wonderful, but when I tried to print
> this article they did not appear.  If you want to learn more, you could
> search Sotheby's London auction, and if you find something irresistible -
> please share another address.
>
> From The New York Times:
>
> This 1,000-Year-Old Shirt Has a $700,000 Story to Tell
>
> Why would a shirt be worth so much money? Find out.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/12/style/
> thousand-year-old-shirt-sothebys.html
>
>
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>
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[lace] Not trimming.

[Helene Ulrich]

Sorry I didn't trim my post.  Haven't been able to figure out how on my
Android phone.

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[lace] Fwd: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt

[N.A. Neff]

Forwarded per Jeri's request.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Jeri Ames" 
Date: Apr 13, 2018 08:28
Subject: Attention Weavers - 1,000-Year-Old Silk Shirt
To: 
Cc:

Dear Arachne subscribers and my personal friends (bcc'd),  This came to me
from a young non-lacemaker.  Hope you think this is close enough to our
lace interests to share.  Some of us are, after all, interested in silk,
design, color, history, conservation of textiles, and rare textiles that
make our hearts sing.   Photos are wonderful, but when I tried to print
this article they did not appear.  If you want to learn more, you could
search Sotheby's London auction, and if you find something irresistible -
please share another address.

>From The New York Times:

This 1,000-Year-Old Shirt Has a $700,000 Story to Tell

Why would a shirt be worth so much money? Find out.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/12/style/
thousand-year-old-shirt-sothebys.html


Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] point ground honeycomb? in Mechlin

[DevonThein]

I am looking at a piece in our collection. It says it is early 19th century
Belgian lace, Mechlin.
The background is Mechlin, but the Mechlin ground is widely spaced, like a
19th century Mechlin. One curious thing is that there is a ground that at
first looks like honeycomb. But, in fact, it is more like two zig-zag chains
(pin chains?) connected where they come close by a single cross, rather than
by a downright pin chain. I can send photos. Has anyone seen this? Does it
signify anything?
Devon

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[lace] 23 Years

[David C Collyer]

Dear Friends,
I just can't say how thrilled I am that next January after some 23 years I
shall finally be meeting a wonderful lace making friend for the first time.
Yes it's Stormy Lee!!!

I'm sure many of you will remember her too. Stormy and I have become great
friends over the years but have still never met. After my performance in
Carnegie Hall, NY I am flying to Portland OR and hiring a car to drive up to
Castle Rock, WA where I'm staying for 6 days before flying home to
Australia. Tongues will wag I'm sure.

Love to you one and all
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS

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RE: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[David C Collyer]

G'day Karen,
I still have your most beautiful solid silver tatting shuttle which I'll
treasure for life. I reckon I got that in 1996 and believe it was the first
one you'd sold outside the USA.
Nice to know you're still here too.
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS

 (No ranting/ravving/crying over the loss of the 'old Arachne' in this
post!) I got involved with Arachne in the mid 90's, pretty close to it's
arrival on the internet and it has been a vital part of my life for all
these decades. 
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Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[Karen Bovard]

 (No ranting/ravving/crying over the loss of the 'old Arachne' in this post!)
I got involved with Arachne in the mid 90's, pretty close to it's arrival on
the internet and it has been a vital part of my life for all these decades. 
I'm a tatter and needlelacer and I can say I learned a lot about those lace
types here.  I have made friends throughout the world too.  On one trip to
Europe (wedding related) I asked about lace things in Berlin, Germany and
Copenhagen, Denmark.  In both cities I was invited to a lacemaker's home and
had the most enjoyable evening--both vying for being the most memorable part
of my trip.  
I can only hope that at some point, something I said was appreciated a little
bit to start to pay back for the huge amount of information and friendship I
have received from this list!!!
Karen Bovard SayreThe ShuttleSmithOmaha, NE/Council Bluffs,
IAhttp://www.TheShuttleSmith.com

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Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[Elena Kanagy-Loux]

I’m really enjoying reading everyone’s lace origin and Arachne stories! Thank 
you all for sharing. 

3000 members on Arachne - wow, that’s impressive! I’m wondering, Avital, if you 
might be able to give us an updated count? I’m curious too!

Best,
Elena 

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[lace] Arachne Anniversary-history

[DevonThein]

I was at an Arachne gathering at the Salt Lake City IOLI Convention and I
realized that many of the  younger members were computer gamers and some of
the older members seem to have been part of the Dungeons and Dragons crowd. I
found myself wondering if the founding of Arachne had occurred because
lacemaking appeals to women with mathematical, scientific and coding
experience, and those women who were very computer knowledgeable  started an
internet list about lacemaking as a result.
Devon


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Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

[Tregellas Family]

I whole heartedly agree with everything Alice has said about Arachne, 
especially Liz and Avital.  I have made many friends around the globe 
through this list as my husband makes aluminium bobbins though not on 
such a large scale as he did before.

I was introduced to Arachne (after our son, who was in University at the 
time and knew all about the internet and hence managed to tell his two 
old folk what it was all about)  by a friend who joined in the first 
year, 1995.  Lorraine contacted me and said that there was a lady in 
Finland who wanted to know how to care for our aluminium bobbins.  Well 
that was a shock to both my DH and myself as we had no idea our bobbins 
had travelled so far. Apparently the lady won them in a raffle.

So, keep up the good work of the longest list on e-mail on the internet 
with regard to lacemaking in particular.  I read most days but don't 
always comment.  I particularly enjoy Jeri's research articles which are 
full of good sense especially in the archival parts.

I wonder if Tamara is still a member?  And it was nice to see David C 
mention Stormy Lee a while ago.

May we last for a long time yet.
Happy Lacemaking,
Shirley T.  -  in Adelaide, South Australia where we've had the first 
heavy rain shower since before Christmas and the ground is just so glad 
of the drink, but we do need much more.



On 13-Apr-18 4:44 PM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:
> I found Arachne just after it's first anniversary so I'm not quite a charter 
> member but it was soon after I started making lace.
>
> The discussions gave me lots of good information and helped my lacemaking.  
> Then the group decided they wanted a conference so Arachne 98 was born.  
> Thanks to Pat and Margaret, we had 60 people from all over the world meet in 
> Nottingham for a week of fun and classes, including attending one of 
> England's large lace fairs.  This sounded so interesting that I decided to 
> attend. It was my first trip off my continent.
>
>
> A group of us met at the Victoria and Albert museum in London before the 
> conference.  I think there were a couple dozen or more.  We attended a lace 
> talk, and surprised the presenter.  She was used to only 2 or 3 people at a 
> time.  I even met a lacemaker who lives 30 miles from me who has since become 
> a good friend.
>
>
> The Arachne conversations have covered an enormous range of topics.  The 
> archives has much information for the person who wants to search a bit -- 
> from picots to tallies to Russian fillings,etc.
>
> We have had up to 3000 members at times.  I haven't seen a count for several 
> years so I don't know how many we are right now.
>
> In the beginning, there was only one list.  To separate the lace topics from 
> the other things, the Lace-Chat list was started.  All non-lace topics were 
> to be directed there (recipes, grandkids, vacations).  Each person can sign 
> up for either or both lists.
>
> We had Secret Pals for six-month intervals.  A non-identified gift was sent 
> once a month with the sender's name revealed in the last gift. We also had 
> the occasional ornament or bookmark exchange.  Once we had a hanky 
> (lace-edged, of course) exchange. That was in '98 because I exchanged mine in 
> Nottingham instead of mailing it.
>
> We all generally got along very well, but about twice a year someone would 
> say something that upset someone else, and there would be a short fuss. Liz, 
> our list owner, does not have time to monitor all that is said, so we got 
> Avital to be the Moderator, to step in when someone got testy.  Most 
> conversations are on topic and positive. I think we may be one of the longest 
> continuously active lists on the internet.
>
> Arachne has stimulated my lace interests and given me friends all around the 
> world.  It has led me to Europe twice, with a third trip in the planning.
>
>
> Happy Anniversary to Arachne -- and may it continue a long time.  Thank you, 
> Liz Reynolds.
>
> Alice in Oregon -- where it has been raining off and on for days with no 
> letup in sight.
>
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[lace] Arachne Anniversary

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I found Arachne just after it's first anniversary so I'm not quite a charter 
member but it was soon after I started making lace.

The discussions gave me lots of good information and helped my lacemaking.  
Then the group decided they wanted a conference so Arachne 98 was born.  Thanks 
to Pat and Margaret, we had 60 people from all over the world meet in 
Nottingham for a week of fun and classes, including attending one of England's 
large lace fairs.  This sounded so interesting that I decided to attend. It was 
my first trip off my continent.  


A group of us met at the Victoria and Albert museum in London before the 
conference.  I think there were a couple dozen or more.  We attended a lace 
talk, and surprised the presenter.  She was used to only 2 or 3 people at a 
time.  I even met a lacemaker who lives 30 miles from me who has since become a 
good friend.


The Arachne conversations have covered an enormous range of topics.  The 
archives has much information for the person who wants to search a bit -- from 
picots to tallies to Russian fillings,etc.

We have had up to 3000 members at times.  I haven't seen a count for several 
years so I don't know how many we are right now.

In the beginning, there was only one list.  To separate the lace topics from 
the other things, the Lace-Chat list was started.  All non-lace topics were to 
be directed there (recipes, grandkids, vacations).  Each person can sign up for 
either or both lists.

We had Secret Pals for six-month intervals.  A non-identified gift was sent 
once a month with the sender's name revealed in the last gift. We also had the 
occasional ornament or bookmark exchange.  Once we had a hanky (lace-edged, of 
course) exchange. That was in '98 because I exchanged mine in Nottingham 
instead of mailing it.

We all generally got along very well, but about twice a year someone would say 
something that upset someone else, and there would be a short fuss. Liz, our 
list owner, does not have time to monitor all that is said, so we got Avital to 
be the Moderator, to step in when someone got testy.  Most conversations are on 
topic and positive. I think we may be one of the longest continuously active 
lists on the internet.

Arachne has stimulated my lace interests and given me friends all around the 
world.  It has led me to Europe twice, with a third trip in the planning.  


Happy Anniversary to Arachne -- and may it continue a long time.  Thank you, 
Liz Reynolds.

Alice in Oregon -- where it has been raining off and on for days with no letup 
in sight.

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