Definitely a hankie ‘for show not blow’!
Happy anniversary everyone.
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is history, we’ve corresponded on and off
now for many years collaborating on various projects on East Midlands bobbins -
sometimes I despair at his typos but he’s so enthusiastic as I’m sure you're
all aware!!
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Dear Louise
Thank you very much for that.
I must confess a little disappointment that there wasn’t more info but I guess
Prince Albert wasn’t to know I’d be searching a hundred and sixty odd years
later!
Now I wonder where Thomas Wright got the information for his book - maybe from
a local
Thank you for the link Brian. After scrolling up, down and inside out I’ve
learnt there are five catalogues of the exhibition. After considerable time
studying what turned out to be only other countries of the world I managed to
find a short reference to Lacemaking in the East Midlands.
Page
I decided to come out from the shadow of my friend and fellow old bobbin freak
Brian Lemin to post a question of my own.
Having said previously that I only have one old ivory bobbin in the collection
I remembered a special pair purchased some years ago from reputable dealer Anne
Swift. They
As always you know my collection is available!
Diana
> On 19 Jul 2019, at 07:15, wrote:
>
> It is 100 years since his book was first published; a book I devoured many
> years ago when I got hit by the "Bobbin Bug". This week, I re-read my first
> chunk of it waiting for my turn to sit in
I’ve also seen these workers listed as ‘Perl worker’. Perl being another name
for a picot.
Diana
> On 14 Jul 2019, at 16:38, Alice Howell wrote:
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> The early lace machines tried to replicate known lace styles. Some styles
> they could do partially but they had to have some work done by
Hi Brian
No doubt you will receive replies from people more qualified than me to answer
your questions on Honiton bobbins/lace - but here goes.
The recorders of census returns tended to use their own terms for occupations.
So the term ‘lace worker’ could have cover almost any work connected to
Can I say what a pleasure it was to read the response from Brian, our bobbin
maker/expert in residence. It’s good to know he’s keeping in touch during his
recovery.
Another beautiful wood Yew seems to be a more modern choice, I cannot recall
finding any, or very few, old bobbins made from it.
Like Alex I’ve always understood that on the whole black lace produced in the
English east Midlands was worked with white thread which was later dyed.
On the other hand I have old Beds lace prickings on grey card which I believe
were used for work with black thread.
Diana in Northamptonshire
Thank you so much for that list of traders/vendors at the congress, it took me
for a walk down memory lane! Oh happy days in Brugge.
Diana in Northamptonshire
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The types of lace made were not ruled by county boarders. What we know as the
Bedfordshire type was made in all the counties of the East Midlands - as was
Bucks Point. There was a Northampton Point, the term was not so common but was
usually known for baby laces.
The ‘Thumpers’ were mostly
Has anyone else received the new look Artefact of the Month page from the
English Lace Guild?
It has been given a whole new look and it certainly is an improvement. The
Artefact is a sample piece of American eagle old Bucks type lace. I’ve seen
this pattern adapted to a bookmark/fingerplate -
Please share any information Alex - sounds interesting.
Regards
Diana
> On 6 Jun 2018, at 08:21, Alex Stillwell wrote:
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> I am fascinated by the bobbins and fine pins found in Rathfarnham Castle in
> Dublin that date from the 17th century and would like more information about
When I first saw traditional Bucks point pillow lace being made, nearly forty
years ago, that was it that was what I wanted to do and I haven’t changed
since.
During those years I have dabbled in almost all bobbin laces also with needle,
shuttle and hook - and colour, which I love, and even a
Springett’s was the British College of Lace in Rugby, Warwickshire.
Diana in Northamptonshire
> On 15 May 2018, at 15:11, Devon Thein wrote:
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> I keep running across The English Lace School and Susan Cox. For some
> reason I thought that the Sprigett's business had that
Dear Cathie
It was brilliant wasn’t it! The visitors book was like a Who’s Who of the Lace
world of the time.
I remember when Pat Rowley invited me, with my Northamptonshire lace research,
to be a part of it my reaction was - Yes Please! The end results finally
confirmed what I had always
Is coloured lace as non-traditional as most people seem to think it is, though?
--
There were most certainly examples of coloured lace produced in the East
Midlands as Alan S. Cole found and mentions in his Report on Northampton, Bucks
& Beds Lace-making in 1891.
When we were
For the gardeners amongst us the magazine Gardens Illustrated now on sale in
the Uk comes with a free pack of seeds of Trachymene Coerulea ‘Blue lace
flower’.
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Hi Alex
If you could send a picture to me privately I will see what, if anything, I can
tell you about your bobbin.
Regards
Diana Smith
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> Hi Arachnids
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> A question for the bobbin experts
Dear Catherine
Lovely to hear from you - thank you so much for that.
I think when I/we found Lacemaking it was still a very traditional craft using
traditional skills and techniques. Instructions in those skills were almost non
existent.
Patterns/ prickings were as rare as the proverbial hens
I’m afraid there are people in all area of collecting and crafting who are
unwilling to ‘share’ - what’s mines mine and stays mine!
Both my husband and I are ardent collectors and researchers, he of local
topography and me, of course, the history of the East Midlands lace industry,
workers and
Hi Alex
Like you I’ve studied many old prickings over the years but very few without
the ground pricked.
I have a theory, no doubt you have also thought of it! That in order to save
time when working large areas of point ground some workers would work a row of
stitches without pinning up,
How they kept count? - I think this might be where the ‘Striver’ or ‘King pin’
was used. Placing a decorated pin on the footside where they began a repeat, on
completing that pattern or number of rows/pins they would put in another
‘striver’ thereby ‘striving’ to complete the pattern and so on.
A little more history behind the boy throwing his pillow down the well at
Elstow. This was supposedly Ernie Cooper.
The Coopers were quite a large family many of them lace makers. I have a copy
of a photograph of a dozen members of Cooper family lined up sitting at their
lace pillows. Centre
Dear Jeri and all
For a moment I thought you were referring to a book I have in my collection
then realised my error. My A5 size green cloth bound book is entitled ‘Olney
and the Lace-Makers’ published in 1864 by William Macintosh, London. It doesn’t
mention an author but a receipt attached to
the extensive card references and research that she had
compiled during her time there.
Deepest sympathy to her family and friends,
Diana Smith, Northamptonshire
> On 4 Sep 2017, at 14:20, Sue Babbs <suebabbs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have just received this message. Many of you
Dear Clay
I remember the discussions on the subject of adding pictures - though was not
aware of the outcome.
As a newcomer to the use of Flickr I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say
thank you for your generosity.
Diana
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I've added two pictures to my Flickr page. One is a small sample lace piece,
from the same collection as the Old Ripon, a pretty edging with an unusual
ground.
The second pictures is of the Hollie Point sampler which was a very lucky find
on eBay. It was amongst a collection of odds and ends
When I think of chenille it immediately reminds me of the chenille table cloth
used by me grandmother!
Diana
> On 11 Aug 2017, at 18:42, Adele Shaak wrote:
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> This is an interesting lace - thank you for putting up the photo. I agree
> with you that it is a nice little
n the book by Mrs Palliser but my copy escapes me at the
moment.
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making 'stuff' I'm sure
I've more to offer.
Diana
> On 8 Aug 2017, at 17:03, Susan <hottl...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
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> Please thank Diana Smith! She kindly sent a photo of her samples of "Old
> Ripon" lace. I've managed to make an Arachne Flickr album for her so that
Possibly the most well known teacher of lace in India was Miss Catherine C.
Channer, at Scots Mission at Kalimpong, she was in charge of the lace school
there for four years.
She began giving lace classes in the early 1900's, unfortunately having to
return to England in 1909 for health reasons.
The poorer classes would probably be wearing last seasons, unfashionable, cast
offs. Those in rural areas would always be slightly behind in style.
Even in those days fashions could change over night and of course one would not
want to be seen in last seasons out dated styles.
Diana
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exciting, not
what one would expect on such an exquisite garment, and appeared to be in poor
condition.
Diana Smith in the U.K.
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> BBC Antiques Road Show Find
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In the collection I have two 'King' bobbins David, and Solomon which is also
biblical. By mistake I included Samuel - I believe he was a prophet rather
than King.
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I think any old bobbin with an inscription which includes 'King' should be
viewed with the fact in mind that this is a very common surname in the East
Midlands area.
On the other hand names such as David and Samuel obviously could have biblical
connections.
I'd be interested in what you have pre
I wonder if the porthole beads your referring to are rosary beads. Some can be
made from bone, others from wood, and have probably been reused from broken
rosary's.
Perhaps Brian has pictures in his research, if not I can send some to him.
Diana
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'Very little is needed to make a happy life.'
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I have two - how would you suggest I photograph them or one? One of them is
very nice, being marked out with brass tacks into 'ells' which was an early
form of measurement for cloth.
Diana
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> On 19 Jun 2016, at 02:20,
If anyone is interested there is a used copy of the mat pattern on eBay at the
moment. Listed under 'Bobbin lace making patterns' starting price £3.00.
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I've just sold some of my collection of foreign bobbins, including a bone
Maltese and a bone one from Bayeux. Both were old/antique and slightly smaller
and slimmer than the wooden types.
Diana in a damp, dull Northamptonshire. In spite of that my hardy cyclamen are
putting on a glorious display
Hello Nancy
I don't think the two emails which appeared on Arachne Lace were from the eBay
seller but I may be wrong. They were from South Africa the seller is in
Norfolk GB.
Best wishes from a bright sunny England which is great as England ladies play
Australia ladies at cricket - go girls!
We have all this knowledge because let's face it we go through it all
regularly! This person, who has excellent one hundred per cent feedback on
eBay, was not to know. So give the chap a break please ladies.
Diana
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came from) it will probably finish up in most people's trash ;-)
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If I could choose someone from the past it would be Miss Catherine C. Channer.
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That is amazing - to think there is still a living link with Miss Channer
teaching. It would be interesting to know if she has any recollections of
her.
Regarding the mat, there is no evidence that Miss Channer worked the mat. The
one pictured in the book was made by a lady from Bedford.
Regards
If I could choose someone from the past it would be Miss Catherine C.
Channer.
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The lighter coloured pillow was on the table with the lady winding bobbins so
presumably the other worker was her.
The pattern/s though called Bedfordshire lace were made in all the East
Midlands counties. The pillow/s and bobbins are typically the types used is
South Buckinghamshire. Also in
There is one copy on eBay in Australia, and also several on Amazon.
Diana Smith
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Perhaps you can locate a small booklet published by the Bath City Council,
titled A Frivolous Distinction: Fashion and Needlework
I was told some years ago, by someone who was in a position to know about
these things, that the old East Midlands workers judged pairs by the weight.
No they didn't get the scales out ;-) but took a bobbin in each hand hence
they would be able to feel the similarity in weight.
So the bobbins
Evening everyone
In the book Lark Rise to Candleford by Flora Thompson, the chapter 'Survivals'
about Queenie - lace maker and beekeeper. They would gather in one cottage in
winter for warmth, each one bringing her faggott or shovel of coals for the
fire. In very cold winter weather the lace
I think you mean Alan Cole? He also did reports on the midlands lace
industry.
There was a nice little museum at Budleigh Salterton - Fairlynch. I believe it
is still there but I'm not sure about lace displays. Also Sidmouth.
Diana in Northamptonshire.
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The lady was Liz Knight who for many years was curator of the Cowper and
Newton Museum in Olney and is an expert on local history and lacemaking in the
area.
What Liz actually said was it would take 'two whole days of continual work',
to produce the piece of lace.
Diana in Northamptonshire
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Is it just me or has anyone received this quarters newsletter from the Lace
Society? I received the one from the Lace Guild ages ago and usually the
society follows shortly after.
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Best wishes
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Just read this motto on a tea shirt - 'The trouble with retirement is that you
never get a day off!'
Diana
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Retirement.
They all promised me
when retirement
I have just received a copy of this book by Linda Finlay. Has anyone read it,
if so, what are their thoughts?
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That must be an old link, the auction finished in November presumably last
year. There were two bids but it remained £10 so the same person must have made
them both to ensure they won.
If they wanted it so much it must have gone to a good home where it would be
appreciated :-)
Diana
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That must be an old link, the auction finished
Hello Sherry
It is a very nice piece also an unusual shape but probably not as straight
forward as it seems. It appears to have been worked sideways starting at the
bottom left hand corner working straight down to the bottom right hand corner
so at its widest point will need a considerable
Miss Channer was born c1874 at Sherford in Devon, died on the 10th of March
1949 and was buried at Clapham, Bedford where she had lived for some years.
I have a very poor quality, much reduced, photocopy of the pattern which has
a couple of hand written notes one of which is 'W. Dean 1978' -
My 1928 first edition of 'Pratical Lacemaking - Bucks Point-Ground' says
exacty the same. There is no other mention that I can find in the text of the
mat.
I have in the past recognised some of the component parts as having
come from other, possibly older, designs. I guess that is only to be
I was in contact with Channer family members some years ago - not now though.
Vera, a niece of Miss Channer, came to spend a day with me with her son and his
partner. As you can imagine I was thrilled. We took them to the church as
Desborough where Miss Channers father had been vicar in the
What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell.
Diana
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On that same note, how about some book reviews on Bucks or other point
ground books? I am looking for more intermediate to
A picture of the original mat appeared
in Miss Channers book 'Practical Lacemaking' published in 1928. Worked by a
student at the Bedford Technical Institute. Design by C.C. Channer.
In the
folder published by Ruth it says Original design by Catherine C.
Hi Brian
I have one of these 'things' in my collection which has been adapted into a
lace bobbin by having a wood head and neck inserted at one end and the last
pair of holes at the other end hold the wire for the spangle. I've always
thought mine was the remains from a needle case - now I'm
I also have a 'stick'? of heelball stashed away somewhere.
In the days when museums were less fussy it was allowed to take rubbings of old
prickings in their collections. This was when patterns were harder to come by -
out of the question nowadays!
I have used the Matt film but must confess
Like Catherine I crossed paths with Aurelia at the college of lace. We shared a
table on a course - I believe it was with Pam Nottingham but the memory plays
tricks. Aurelia enjoyed her weekend so much and was devastated when it came to
an end. Weren't we all - great times!
The world has lost
Hello Jen
Horse hair is a possibility for stuffing a pillow.
Did anyone see the Antiques Road Show on UK TV yesterday - the pair of ladies
'pockets' as in the nursery rhyme Lucy Locket lost her pocket! Apparently it
is very rare to find a pair.
The Queens Gallery has an expo this summer 10th
Has anyone seen the May/June Piecework magazine?
A while back Christopher Phillips made a request to the Arachne list for any
information on lace/lacemaking from the time of William Shakespeare for an
article he was planning to submit for publication. I was happy to let him have
pictures of a
I received my Lace Society magazine yesterday. Not often that arrives before
the guild mag!
Diana in lovely sunny Northamptonshire
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A search on eBay found 37 listings of glossy and matt sticky back plastic in
various colours. I didn't delve too deeply but there seemed to be various
prices and quantities.
Diana in Northamptonshire on another spring like day (it can't last!)
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In my history research on lacemaking in the East Midlands there are numerous
mentions of men in the area making lace during the 18/19th centuries. The 1777
militia list includes a number of lace men, dealers and workers below the age
of 45years.
An article from the Northampton County
Hello Carol
That goes for me too - I'm completely in the dark - no pun intended ;o)
I like the idea of a small box which would be good for makers of all sorts of
lace - though another bobbin wouldn't go astray!!!
Diana from a dry, bright Northamptonshire
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Oh I have some of those but I just call them memory sticks!! I've published
books and sent them to the printer on a memory stick - sorry flash drive ;-)
Thanks Clay for clearing that up.
Diana
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Carol
in
the garden of her daughter, Sarah Annâs house at Kettering,
Northamptonshire; she may have gone to live with her daughter and would have
been about 80 years old.
Â
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I sent this reply which bounced back, maybe the sender will read this! Though
possibly there are others who are interested.
Diana
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If anyone in the UK is interested there is a full page article, in the weekend
supplement of the Daily Mail, on Franz Muller - subject of a hanging bobbin.
On Thursday this week there is a period drama on BBC2 at 9pm 'Murder on the
Victorian Railway'.
Diana in (an almost spring like)
I think the link below will take you to the web site showing the panels.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Bedford+lace+panelsie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=en
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ago at a lace day where she was the speaker.
http://www.doreensdiary.org.uk/
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I have an original copy of the 'Report on Northampton, Bucks, Beds,
Lace-Making' by Alan Cole. Dated 1891 it is really concentrating more on the
production i.e. quality of the lace being produced and the general age of the
lace makers at that time. Sadly he didn't name the workers he spoke to,
Hi Brian
Sorry not my area - though I think he did a similar report on the Honiton area.
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OK there were very few job opportunities for girls in the 18/19th centuries.
If I had to choose between lace making which was clean, light, work at home
with hours to suit. Against working long hours away from home scrubbing,
cleaning, cooking, washing for someone else for little return or
.
Â
I have a interesting book published in 2000Â by Alan
Brown called 'Take the Children...? How Victorian lace girls lived and worked
in the Honiton and East Midlands districts - this is their story, as told to
the 1862 Royal Commission. I believe Sheila Brown is on the list.
Â
Diana
Smith
At a local antique market I found a little book called Our Crafty Lives by the
Yaldhurst Ladies by Rosamund Douglas and Janet Foster. It was first published
in 1989.
In the book is a photograph of a lady making lace named Marrion Shuttleworth.
Does anyone know the lady or the other ladies of
These are for the lace maker who has everything - and doesn't need to walk
very far !
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Most of what has been described have been tables. I have several of those
mentioned in the correspondence. But the stand I prefer, especially for
travel, is not a table but a stand. It was given to me by Jeannette Van
Ord in the Netherlands and is the kind that is used in Bruges and many
You can find picture frames which include a mount that has several cutouts
of different shapes - hard to describe! So you could mount various spriggs
in one frame. I found the one below on ebay.
Hello Sheila
Yes I remember wearing a liberty bodice - it would have been in the late
1940s. Showing my age!!!
Diana in Northants - were it was lovely and sunny now overcast and
threatening rain.
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Happy New Year to everyone.
I have a friend who will be travelling to New Zealand (sorry I know no more
than that) on the 18th of January and she would like to hear of any
lacemakers and/or groups down there that she could get in touch with.
If replies could please be sent to me and I will
I have an old lace bobbin made by David Haskins with the inscription ROSE
HANNAH BROWN DIED MARCH 18 1846 AGED 5 YEARS.
On the spangle is a child's shoe/boot button. It makes me sad whenever I
look at it :o(
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I recently bought a lovely box, for use in a haberdashery shop, on ebay.
It was used to hold 'Copley's Embroidery Knitting Wools' - not exactly
lace I know. I thought I would do some research on Copley's but with very
little result. Do any of you knowledgeable people out there have any
Dear Clay
That is superb work and design. We lesser mortals can only gaze in
admiration at the excellent pictures - thank you so much for sharing them
with us.
Has anyone else received their copy of Lace yet? There is a picture of
another beautiful piece of needle lace made by Catherine
Hi Trish
I'm the very lucky owner of two David Naylor bobbins, one exactly the same
as the one listed with the clasped hand to hold the spangle wire the other
has a bell shape as the tail, both are dated 1986. I'm not sure if they are
bone or ivory, the workmanship is so good they are smooth
I replied to Catherine - I had this problem but if you use the webshot link
at the bottom of the page - it works for me.
Diana in Northants
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To: catherinebar...@btinternet.com; Arachne lace@arachne.com
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