[lace] An historical reference to a "Bobbin Maker in Devon also a "trolly bobbin"

I have had a great morning going through all my collected quotes for historical sources with an idea to collate then into interesting quotes to the East Devon and Downton bobbin project. Many will know that I regularly remind readers that we have no idea as to who made or decorated Devon

[lace] Email problem?

I have not had any posts from Arachne for a few days. I am beginning to suspect it might be my email might be wrong. Sorry about this. I suppose this will act as a test for me. Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace

[lace] Isobel Rendell of Wells.

Does anyone happen to know this lady, she apparently has or had a very good collection of bobbins and I think Honiton especially. I would love to correspond with her if possible. Thanks Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace

[lace] Ann Bond follow up genealogy report.

Special thanks to the person who found the information for me. I have contacted my BEER friend to see if we can follow it up with a bit of family history? If so, I will write it up. If not then I will share the limited details we have. Many thanks brian - To unsubscribe send email to

[lace] New Webdocs articles.

I have posted some new articles on webdocs. https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs.html press cntrl/f and type Lemin in the box, the look for the title you want. Brian [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Anchors as Decoration

[lace] ? Ancestry help? and a ?Bobbin maker? help

Hi, friends (yes I want something!!) Smile. This lockdown gave me the "search Frenzies" today, and it was quite productive. I have found a bobbin inscription which is asking for an Ancestry (Or whatever) search and secondly the name of a possible East Devon bobbin maker. Here is the

[lace] Reading source of my articles. plus museum fees

Sorry to answer two questions at once! Here is the URL for webdocs which is where I publish all my work except articles that are published in Lace Journals or other media outlets. https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs.html The Dictionary which has a section on Honitons etc

[lace] Museums and Copyright. (RAMM, Exeter)

Dear All I write this at the end of a series of complaints from myself and correspondence with RAMM regarding getting access to a nice collection of Bobbins in the RAMM Exeter (Museum) I have failed in my bid to get free academic access to the collection, so I am giving up. Just to put on

[lace] East Devon and Downton project progress report (second attempt to send sorry)

Dear All, My efforts to study and report on the East Devon and Downton bobbins continue, to try and give them the reputation they deserve, equivalent (but different) to the East midland bobbins. 1. Up until now consider I have been in the “collection phase” i.e. getting enough bobbin

[lace] East Devon and Downton project, progress report.

Dear All, My efforts to study and report on the East Devon and Downton bobbins continue, to try and give them the reputation they deserve, equivalent (but different) to the East midland bobbins. 1. Up until now consider I have been in the “collection phase” i.e. getting enough bobbin

[lace] Trying to contact my SRA "friend" ! Brian

I am ashamed to admit I have forgotten who the member was with whom I corresponded on all sorts of SRA things. I have just finished an article on Virtue Bobbins and I would love to have her historical help, please. I hide my head with shame ☹ Brian - To unsubscribe send email to

[lace] Our mail list software

Dear All, Firstly I have no idea about programming or software etc. This note to the list is purely based on a discussion being held currently on another list I belong to (Jackrail; Harpsichords and clavichords) They are considering changing to a modern "mail list" programme. I suspect

[lace] England's oldest lave bobbin. Updated. Web docs

Just to let members know that I have removed two articles written over the years on England's oldest lace bobbin and amalgamated and added to this March upload. It is basically up to date unless you check all the dates on your Honiton Trolly bobbins (best place to look) 1662 is that date you have

[lace] Possibly I have let you down. Marian Powys-Lace Bio.

I recall pompously getting on my hobby horse and telling you that I was not going to accept the invitation to write a lace biography of Marian Powys (Lace and Lace Making) for the Powys Society Journal. The truth is that I really meant it as I hate academic writing probably because I did my

RE: [lace] Bedford Hangings

Dear All, I never really wrote much about hanging bobbins as it was so well covered by a web page that we had many years ago (I am afraid my memory can not recall it). It was a fabulous site, but I do not think it was ever archived (great shame.) The other reason was that my great bobbin

[lace] Finding Lost bobbins./ Boring and dissapointing!

I might one day write up the issues of searching for Lost bobbins but briefly this what I have done to try and find three totally uniquely decorated Honiton bobbins that once belonged to Marian Powys (Lace and Lacemaking) It has taken more than a years and that is with the benefit of email all

RE: [lace] Sarah Dazeley hanging bobbin

Springett says no one has ever seen it! I other collectors have never seen it. Did it exist? I think so, The bobbin turners (as now) appear to be able to sell "hanging bobbins" for good money. I have recently spent months trying to find "lost" bobbins and it is very hard and so far my quest

[lace] Photo sharing, Oz Fires and "house space"

Hello all, glad the link worked. Jean ( my wife... carer, cook, cleaner, patchworker extraordinaire, and wonderful nurse as well as being the tidiest [grrr]person in the world) has patiently put up with my hobbies and collections over the years and now we really are running out of room.

[lace] Google photos sharing link

I choose google photos. It has scared me rather as Google appears to have a copy of every photo I have taken and every image I have created! I suppose I did not handle the process properly, but I am not too worried about it. I have discovered that apparently I can share a Album with

[lace] Web storage of photos

Dear All, Firstly I am fortunate not to immediately threatened by our fires, but that does nt mean we are not prepared, learned our drill have the bags packed etc. You can not trust the behaviors of these fires. Jean and I live in a small retirement unit and storage is real problem for

[lace] Academic artists... a question please... photo stream flickr

Dear Arachne friends, I have posted a bobbin on Flickr photostream (with Sues help) it has a particular style of painting and I have about 6 of them all different but clearly this painting style. I want to know what (if any) a correct term would be for this style. I was suggested that I

[lace] I blew the "stating the Obvious" sorry

I need to say that I am particularly referring to Honiton (East Devon bobbins) So sorry [Theyare pretty well all I think of these days!] I did find a "tail" labelled, Branscombe wriggled [LW 1850] and I am suggesting that this is quite rare. I did not find a reference to "LW" in the

[lace] Honiton ships on bobbins

Hi all. I am writing an article on the fleet of bobbin ships I have on Honiton bobbins. IF you have one that you have not sent to me and are happy for me to use the picture/s I would be glad to have it in my database. Did you know that David Springett made at least one Honiton ship

[lace] Re "Alex" and modern Honiton ship bobbin reproduction you sent me.

Somehow I have lost you. I think I have some information about it for you. Not much but interesting. Can you drop me a note please? Sorry. I am a hopeless administrator!! Brian _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has

[lace] Missing Honiton boat? Do you happen to have it?

Dear All , I have discovered that there is sailing ship named "Robert" that is engraved on a Honiton bobbin. I found it recorded (drawn) on a single page that I have found (where I got it from I know not) from a 1997 article in the Lace Guild Magazine. I have a collection of 22 ship images

[lace] Hacked ???

I suspect that Alice Howels email has been hacked. I have received an Itunes purchase request, which seems a little strange. I have ignored it. Brian _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 156 of my spam emails to

[lace] History of Lace. Spoiler: this could be boring!

I wanted to write an article on this subject and got to the bottom of page 1 and gave up! (I think that is lucky for you!) It all came about by me remembering the following blog that I have known about for some time: https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/huguenots-and-englands-lace-ma

[lace] New article on webdocs

Historical steam representations on Honiton bobbins. Re a steam engine (Probably agricultural) and the railway scene (showing a train) I posted this recently I am told that this URL gets closer to my articles. Look for Brian Lemin then title.. getting hard to sort them out! Sorry.

[lace] Train bobbin up on Flickr

The Railway bobbin train!! is up on Flickr. Thanks Bev Brian _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 147 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try a

[lace] I "think" i have made a discovery???

Dear All, Now I am getting myself all excited because as I was sorting out all my Honiton bobbin files and genres I THINK I have discovered a railway engine, complete with coal tender and some form of carriage (not for people) but a container truck. I have no date, BUT I may have scrounged

[lace] Sorry.. I gave one wrong title.

The 1662 "title" is wrong. It should be Englands oldest dated bobbin. It is 5 pages long. I think you will find it as it is one article in a series as I have found "older" bobbins. https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html#webdocs I do beg your pardon. Brian

[lace] 1851 Great Exhibition catalogue

I did a digital search from that previous URL and with no effect. I found another site and the search engines seemed to work well, but I got lace, but no Lace bobbin, Ivory but no ivory bobbin. I do not think the catalogue is laid out in such a manner that it will help us. Brian

[lace] Official catalogue 1851 Great Exhibition catalogue for free download

https://archive.org/details/officialcatalog06unkngoog/page/n11 and other sites Brian _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 130 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC?

[lace] What is it made of? Ivory

Hi Roberta, Firstly I have written an article "What is it made of" on Web docs. It is pretty detailed. ( avoid the destructive tests) https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_matrl.pdf Find my name by scrolling then find the article (others know easier ways!!) I wrote that a

RE: [lace] 1851 Great exhibition bobbins

Dear All, Recently many have thanked me for my research efforts and that was encouraging, but if only you all knew what goes on (lace wise!!) between Diana and me. How can you resist challenging questions like that? I read Wright only a few months ago. I did not pick up that titbit about

[lace] How much did lace makers pay for high end bobbins. Reply

As usual, I am indebted to Arachne members for their response to my question. 1. Most agreed with my proposed new motto about how much we DO NOT know. All agreed. 2. It was suggested that our study of bobbins (basically relating from Springett's book) is dealing with the high end of

[lace] How much did "good" lace bobbins cost historical lace makers?

I know that is the sort of question many of you would probably think to ask me, but I have no idea. People like Compton and Haskins worked hard and long to create what in fact are artistic masterpieces. (not mention on primitive lathes.) Then they had to sell them to less than well-paid

[lace] Some Honiton inscriptions, pretty good haul.. please keep them coming Thank you

This batch has shown me that a pic accompanying them “helps”, but just the inscription is FINE too. (I always want more... Sorry.) Some are similar to the East Midlands others clearly nautical. I think that Whiting talked to a Mr Good when she visited Devon? I will have to find the

[lace] Yes I am looking for help again (again!!!) sorry :(

Are there amongst you a person I would call perhaps an "academic artist?" or indeed anyone crazy enough to want to give it a go! I am trying to work out a sort of dictionary for describing the various decorations found on Honiton bobbins. I have been trying to use heraldic terms, for

[lace] Honiton bobbin Inscriptions, request

Hello all, First the important thing. Did you happen to see the flattering publicity I got with the discovery of Englands oldest dated lace bobbin? 1662.even before the Great Fire of London! It has really helped with the East Devon/Downton project so I am building on it by trying to right

[lace] New URL Webdocs

Just to let you know the head of Arizona Uni department responsible for "webdocs" has died and the University is restructuring the site. The first thing is a new URL. here it is https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/front_door.html For those who may not know about this service it is

[lace] Can Tess Parish drop me a note please?

Re Bobbin and Needle club webdocs? A couple of Marian Powys articles. One is Remembering happy days (?) The other is A Gentleman's Lace And the third. King Charles 11 Lace I know not all the Bobbin and Needle club has been scanned. I am not "totally sure" that they were

[lace] re the Marian Powys essay. Not so good!

Dear All, Oh dear Here I come confessing to all my inadequacies. Never mind, this is straight from me. It is not fake news! All this started with my search for some really unique bobbins that at one time were in Marians possession and illustrated in her book Lace and Lace Making. The

[lace] Yep, I am asking for help again!

Dear All, I am looking for a shortish paragraph that will demonstrate the complexity of lace making. My reason for asking this is that the literary buffs of the Powys Society possibly think that their expertise in literature supersedes Marian Powys's skill in lace. I have to say that in

RE: [lace] RE: East Midlands lace villages

That was interesting Louise, One of the things I do is keep an eye out for "England's Oldest Bobbin". Currently it is a Honiton Trolley dated 1662. We stand a chance with Honiton bobbins to reasonably date the bobbins because many have a date on them. What I took from your email, was that

[lace] Re Marian Powys (Grey)

I have been asked to write an essay about this wonderful lace lady and lace designer!! (UK and USA) You will have to be monstrously "old" to have known her/ met her, but if you have done any of these things can you drop me a note please. I have very little , "lace/ and Marian as a person", to

[lace] Lace Towns of the East Midlands,,, pretty good progress!

Thank you all for your ideas and contributions. Basically I have a list of 160 (plus) towns in the "East Midlands" Derived from " you" the books I have, and a couple recommended to me. ( --Lace making areas, East Midlands: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Large section of Northamptonshire,

[lace] List of lace making towns/villages in East Midlands???

I thought it would be easy to get a list of the above places where lace makers were active, say in 1850? (+ or -) But so far I have failed. I can get a couple of lists dated 1700 but that is too early for my purposes. I want to create a map (I learned how this afternoon!!) of these places

[lace] Wrights bobbins (part 2) Incribed... what village do they come from? [ interesting] and other stuff [boring] smile

Frankly I wish I could tell you but Wright knew the villages where certain bobbins come from. Do you have a bobbin inscribed G P -FH August 26th 1813? Then that appears to commemorate a wedding in Renhold. That is pretty straightforward but so many of the inscriptions are repeated many (many)

[lace] The Bobbins of Thomas Wright , The Romance of the Lace Pillow 1919

It is 100 years since his book was first published; a book I devoured many years ago when I got hit by the "Bobbin Bug". This week, I re-read my first chunk of it waiting for my turn to sit in the Dentist's Chair and it gave me such a lift as the more I read the calmer I got! I had decided that

[lace] re Find my past "free" ancestry site

I have been using the Free part of this site [ https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-united-kingdom-records ] to collect all the names of lace makers in Devon from the censuses. The idea is that those with sets of initials on their bobbins will be able to consult this list and "try" and match up

[lace] census records and definitions

May of you will know that we have nothing more than two names that were recorded by Gertude Whiting as being maker of Honiton lace bobbins. They are Mr Miller and Mr Goode. They appear both to be Beer residents, though it is possible that Mr Millers mother married again (??) I am guessing the

[lace] In plain sight finds, The East Devon Lace Bobbin Project.

Just to let you know that even though this project is quite new a few exciting things have happened in the last few days. A bobbin dated 1662 (possibly England's oldest dated bobbin) few new inscriptions recorded of special interest, besides my previous reporting of Queen Victoria, a Lady

[lace] Would like to contact Pompi Parry please.

Would you mind dropping me a note please. Re "royals on "bobbins". Thanks Brian _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 63 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC?

[lace] re me and Facebook!

Thanks for all your help!! In short this is the situation Many years ago I had a Facebook page, then my email got hacked and all my friends were asked for money to get me out of Ireland. I blocked my account and despite say 3 tries to get a page they have always refused. After the

[lace] Honiton Bobbins of Historical significance. and.. Lace and Lace Making. M Powys

Since the uploading of the Lace Bobbin dictionary and collectors guide (www.brianlemin.com ) I have been concentrating on studying Antique Honiton (EAST Devon) lace bobbins. They are totally fascinating when they are decorated. Boring when plain, beautiful when modern

[lace] Plains Indian bobbins

Dear Spiders, You guys are supposed be kind to me and what have you done? You have stirred my interest so now I have to “find out more” G to you all...( smile) BUT please keep sending me pictures urls references so that I can “see” what types of bobbins were used. I think we

[lace] Bobbins and the Plain Indians

I was careful to word my challenge to the seller around the issue of provenance. I am clearly glad that I did as they could have been used by the Indians. These bobbins were made around 1830 with one possibly made much later ( I will need to study it carefully.) How do these dates match up

[lace] "Antique Indian Plains Lace bobbins"

I found a description on eBay of what to me are Cleary two English lace bobbins. There is a very large price attached to the article. I have challenged the seller, but perhaps some of our American members can tell me if the Colonial missionaries taught lace to the Plains Indians? I might have

[lace] Lace lamps, peg lamps and whale oil

A special thank you to those of you who were in a position to reply to my query about peg lamps. I have found them most helpful and as result of their help and some initial (subjective) observations I would like to share my thinking on this development, which until now, I was totally ignorant of.

[lace] Lace lamps of the peg Lamps genre. I need you help!

I have been approached by a person writing an article on peg lamps, and we are discussion on the question of whether some of the “so called” lace lamps were in fact of the “peg lamp” variety. These are the the glass (not always but for our purposes glass will be the material) oil