Re: [lace] Belgian color code
Dear all I did Chantilly year 1 at the Kantcentrum in July this year, Lieve Pollet uses turquoise for pairs that are carried with the gimp in Chantilly. She did say it wasn't part of the official colour coding. It does make it clearer that the pairs aren't thrown out which it would appear if a line just stopped. I had no problem telling turquoise from blue or green, orange (cttt) from red (ctct) in the ground on this lace was a totally different story Susan -- Susan Roberts Sent from my iPhone Website: www.susanroberts.info > On 18 Sep 2017, at 22:04, jo wrote: > > Thanks fort this exhaustive list. Never heard of turquoise, seems to me it > could be hard to tell apart from green and blue, colors may present > themselves differently on another screens or another printers. What is a > turnover stitch in terms of ctp (cross/twist/pin) anyway? > > Jo > https://github.com/d-bl/GroundForge/wiki/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Belgian color code
Thanks fort this exhaustive list. Never heard of turquoise, seems to me it could be hard to tell apart from green and blue, colors may present themselves differently on another screens or another printers. What is a turnover stitch in terms of ctp (cross/twist/pin) anyway? I started the discussion to apply logical colors in the web application I have published and still under further development. Like the black-and-white version there are other variations in other contexts. Susan Roberts wrote an article in lace and on her website about a multicolor and red/blue system. So it would be wise to have a legend along with published patterns. Allowing, even encouraging, unorthodox stitches and both open and closed stitches in GroundForge I usually have to decide on the colors based on the core of the stitch. Twist marks are a headache on their own and I'm working on more consistent colors. Both are the issues from a longer list I'm currently working on. Don't hold your breath but also don't let it stop you from playing and experimenting. Jo https://github.com/d-bl/GroundForge/wiki/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Belgian color code
Thank you, Greet, for the extended colour code. Most of the lacemakers I know are familiar with the meanings for green, purple, red, and possibly yellow, but most do not know the other ones. Sometimes we have long discussions about it at my lace club. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > Green: half stitch > Purple: linen stitch > Red: double stitch > Yellow: gimp > Yellow in Cluny lace: Venetian plait > yellow leaf, square or triangle: tally > Orange: Dieppe stitch > Brown: twisted half stitch or enclosed pin stitch > Blue: plait > Turquoise: turn-over stitch > > In tulle laces, the ground can be drawn in green, orange and brown. This > depends on the kind of tulle lace. > ( texte Veerle Meersschaut) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Belgian color code
> Nancy wrote > > I agree with Antje. Thanks for posting the extended list of color codes, > Greet. The Belgian color code is pure genius, and has been so informative > for me while reading working diagrams of the Flemish laces. It's one of the > best innovations in lace-making in the last century! (Can you tell? I like > it. :-) > Personally for I always use the black and white code of torchon and tule. This code was developed by Henk Hardeman for the Dutch Lace Education in a time that colored copies were very expensive. In this the simple torchon ground is simply drawn are diagonal lines with dots on the crossings. I like that because the diagonal lines show the path the pairs are going. In the color code the green lines are going around the dot and don’t follow the path of the pairs. But surely the simple is the code you are familiar with. Happy lacing, Gon Homburg from a at this moment sunny Amsterdam, the Netherlands - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Belgian color code
I agree with Antje. Thanks for posting the extended list of color codes, Greet. The Belgian color code is pure genius, and has been so informative for me while reading working diagrams of the Flemish laces. It's one of the best innovations in lace-making in the last century! (Can you tell? I like it. :-) Nancy, usually in Connecticut USA, but right now in Milan leaving for my gelato fix, before the first meeting the Lace Tour of Italy group in the lobby at 15:00! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Belgian color code
Thank you vey much for your information. I am a fond follower of the Belgian colour code and think that it is a great invention. Knowing how to read it, we can understand many books and try many techniques we do not know, because the colours of the lines show us all! It is also very useful to take notes of what we are doing, or to explain others how to work this and that. Greetings from the centre of Spain. Antje González www.vueltaycruz.es - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] belgian color code cttct
For technical reasons I just need a color, without annotations like circles or cross marks. In the mean time I remembered some pages on Pinterest. One page of Ulrike's book on Torchon uses brown for ctt. There is also a spiral bound book "Jolanda's vogels" (birds) she uses also brown but for cttctt. So I'll stick to brown. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] belgian color code cttct
For technical reasons I just need a color, without annotations like circles or cross marks. In the mean time I remembered some pages on Pinterest. One page of Ulrike's book on Torchon uses brown for ctt. There is also a spiral bound book "Jolanda's vogels" (birds) she uses also brown but for cttctt. So I'll stick to brown. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] belgian color code cttct
Isn't it a little black circle at the turning part? On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:37 AM, N.A. Neff wrote: > Good question. Might it be a green intersection (half stitch), little > hatch mark for another twist, then another green intersection (halfstitch)? > > > > > What is the Belgian color code for the turning stitch: cttct? > > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] belgian color code cttct
Good question. Might it be a green intersection (half stitch), little hatch mark for another twist, then another green intersection (halfstitch)? If there's no pin in the center of all that, it would pull up into a turning stitch, so the diagram would be right for the thread movements. Nancy usually in Connecticut US, but right now in Herculaneum (Ercolano) Italy, just outside of Naples. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:17 PM, jo wrote: > Dear spiders > > What is the Belgian color code for the turning stitch: cttct? > > Jo > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Belgian Color Code
> 1. I have color codes in several of my books but have failed to find any > listed as the Belgian Color Code. Could someone list them for me? I presume that Belgian colour code is the one used by the Kantcentrum in Bruges. The "standard" colour coding for BL working diagrams is: purple for cloth stitch CTC red for cloth & twist CTCT green for half stitch CT Yellow for a single thread (gimp or weaver in a tally) but a lot of books use black as it's easier to see. The coloured diagrams in Bridget Cook's workbook are single threads, not pairs, and she just used a mix of red and blue as she felt best highlighted the stitches being described > 2. In Torchon Lace, what is the difference between a chevron and a heart? > They appear to be the same so I thought the terms were interchangeable. To me a heart is designed to be worn/displayed, but not necessarily worked, with the point going down. A chevron can point in any direction. Other than that they are the same in Torchon lace. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Belgian Color Code
Hello Delores. Most recent books follow the Belgian Colour code, although it doesn't say it is the Belgian one. The colours used are: Cloth stitch (CTC): violet Whole st. (TCTC): red Half St. (TC): green Braid: blue Gimp: yellow Sometimes Dieppe (TTC pin TC) is represented by orange, instead of green and a small line of the extra twist. And honeycomb in brown. I hope this answers your question 1. Best regards from Antje, in Spain. ___ *"Hasta la más larga caminata empieza por un pequeño paso". Confucio (551-497 a.C.)* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Belgian Color Code
It may well be they are one and the same thing, but personally, I would say a chevron is deeper and a heart is more heart shaped like a chopping a corner out of one side of a diamond. Claire Kent, UK Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. On 14 Mar 2010, at 16:07, Delores Miller wrote: > I have two questions. > > 1. I have color codes in several of my books but have failed to find any > listed as the Belgian Color Code. Could someone list them for me? > > 2. In Torchon Lace, what is the difference between a chevron and a heart? > They appear to be the same so I thought the terms were interchangeable. > > Thanks for your help. > > Delores Miller > Sedro-Woolley, WA, USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
