Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-13 Thread Vicki Bradford
Hi Joseph,

I have thought about this, especially incorporating overshot patterns. As 
others have said, you would have to consider the fact that bobbin lace is 
worked as two weft rows at a time.  
I envisioned doing a drawdown to plot the pattern rows to follow (which would 
be woven with a single bobbin), and since each overshot pattern row is followed 
by a tabby (plain weave) row, you could weave one bobbin across after each 
pattern row.  (Every alternate row would be woven with the other bobbin of the 
weaver pair.) Alternatively, you could experiment weaving a regular cloth 
stitch row (i.e. with both bobbins) after each pattern row. It would look 
different but it could be interesting! 

I recently saw some loom weaving where cards (as for tablet/card weaving) were 
added at the  edges...another interesting combination of techniques. I guess 
we’re only limited by our imaginations! (-;

Vicki in Maryland 

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Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-13 Thread Kim Davis
Joseph,

  I have taken this same approach with braids.  It is great fun and
adds texture to areas which can otherwise be flat.  The main issue I have
run into is having the repeats fall in line with the same place they want
to be for cloth stitch.  I would think this would closer with weaving
stitches than braids.  This is something to look out for when planning
stitches you will use.  You need to look and see if the pin dots need to be
moved further or closer apart.

Kim


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Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-11 Thread Bev Walker
Just to add to the topic, Half-stitch is a three-way weave!

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:15 PM Devon Thein  wrote:

> An interesting idea.
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Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-11 Thread Devon Thein
An interesting idea. Whereas linen stitch is double weft weaving, tallies
are single weft weaving. I have seen some pieces that are made entirely out
of Talley like weaving. It is quite tight. I wonder if it would be possible
to incorporate fancier weaves if you converted to Talley type weaving for
those areas. Or perhaps it wouldn’t work at all because tensioning is so
critical with tallies.

Devon

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Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-10 Thread Gabriele Patzner
Hi,

Joseph Young  wrote:
> 
> Just wondering if any of you have contemplated using weaving techniques
> inside our bobbin lace! Obviously it would add complications, but I am
> sure it can be done.

I thought about that since I saw a scarf made by a member of the dutch design 
group “Kanteon” recently.
She had woven the main part in a style resembling bobbin lace and made bobbin 
lace with the warp ends.

It looked lovely, but she said the very open weave she chose to resemble bobbin 
lace making is too open, the threads shift within the fabric, especially since 
she chose a fine, very slick thread. On my remark about making the whole scarf 
with bobbins so you can add twists in alle dimensions, she rightly replied it 
would take too long and would be rather boring. I stored this in the back of my 
brain as a sort of challenge to be faced once I thought some more about it. ;-)

Anyway: Woven fabric usually is much more dense, especially the more intricate 
patterns. If you wanted to transfer that look to bobbin lace you would have to 
change the grid, which, in turn, would affect patterning in the more open lace 
part. There might be really interesting effects. 

I’d be pleased to be updated on your experiments, 

Gabriele

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Re: [lace] Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-10 Thread Bev Walker
Worth a try Joseph!
Something to know, cloth stitch in bobbin lace indeed resembles plain
weave, however in constructing it in bobbin lace we weave two rows at each
pass. Plain weave on a loom is one row, one pass, as for any woven pattern
I think ...though I'd be pleased to be shown otherwise.
It reasonably easy to add bobbin lace to weaving, making use of a long
fringe for example.

Bev in Shirley BC Canada

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:46 PM Joseph Young 
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> Just wondering if any of you have contemplated using weaving techniques
> inside our bobbin lace...
>
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